ImperialYoruba:



APC is going to do to you nationally what it has done to PDP in Lagos since 1999. We are going to find an Agbaje to hold the spot for PDP at national level.

LOL! That is if such Agbaje exist in the midst of Northern lions.

UdechiHD:
What delegate did Obasanjo had from the SW to clinch the PDP Presidential seat in 1999? The likes of Rochas or Kalu with a wide support base in the north can get northern delegates backing them.

It was a known fact that Obasanjo's delegates came from the middlebelt, SE and SS.
SW cued behind Olu False who flew the flag of the APP when Ogbonnaya Onu stepped down for him. That's another story on it's own.

But the fact remains that delegates in primaries are easily influenced by nepotistic or financial inducement.
Let the SW bring their delegates and let Rochas source his from the north, at the end the person with the highest votes gets the party nomination.

Haha brother, do you even know the meaning of party delegate. What’s the business of AD-APP during PDP presidential primaries in 1999 that you’re talking about delegates.

In 1999, SE delegates voted the Igbos in the PDP primaries most especially Dr. Alex Ekwueme. The Middle belt, Core North, and SW delegates voted Obasanjo during the PDP primaries.

You’re mixing things up by trying to rope Falae into PDP primaries. Just like saying Tinubu voted for Atiku in the PDP primaries for 2019 election. The Igbos never voted OBJ for PDP primaries, they voted their sons which are listed below for the Jos 1998 PDP convention:

Dr. Alex Ekwueme
Chief Jim Nwobodo
Etc.

Iblad0994:


Haha brother, do you even know the meaning of party delegate. What’s the business of AD-APP during PDP presidential primaries in 1999 that you’re talking about delegates.

In 1999, SE delegates voted the Igbos in the PDP primaries most especially Dr. Alex Ekwueme. The Middle belt, Core North, and SW delegates voted Obasanjo during the PDP primaries.

You’re mixing things up by trying to rope Falae into PDP primaries. Just like saying Tinubu voted for Atiku in the PDP primaries for 2019 election. The Igbos never voted OBJ for PDP primaries, they voted their sons which are listed below for the Jos 1998 PDP convention:

Dr. Alex Ekwueme
Chief Jim Nwobodo
Etc.

The SE delegates shared their votes. Chief Nwobodo an eternal enemy of Ekwueme was used by the Jos Mafia to swing half of SE votes to Obasanjo.

The northerners shared their votes between Ekwueme and Obasanjo same as the south-south. It was the middlebelt overwhelming votes that swung in favour of Obasanjo and this was made possible with the influence of Solomon Lar, IBB, Abdulsalam and the Langtang Generals during the Jos convention.

astrodome:
In no particular order; just randomly listed:

1. Governor Umahi of Ebonyi State (has executive and technical experience. He is an Engineer)
2. Governor (former) Peter Obi (has executive, business and VP electoral experience)
3. Dr. Ngozi Okonjo Iweala (arguably the most accomplished (currently) economist from Africa, and the initiator of the forgiveness of Nigeria's debt by the World Bank during the Obasanjo's regime; has managerial, administrative, and foreign relations experience; multiple time minister in Nigeria)
4. Dr. Kingsley Muoghalu (former Deputy Governor of the Central Bank, university professor, economist and having Presidential electoral experience; young and digitally wired unlike analogue Buhari)
5. Prof. Chukwuemeka Soludo (the most impactful Central Bank Governor ever, university professor, and serious economic guru)
6. Dr. Chris Ngige (former Gov. of Anambra; has executive experience, has administrative experience, was/is a medical officer, and actually a very serious minded person; he is in the ruling party)
7. Mr. Willie Obiano, governor of Anambra State (has executive and management experience)
8. Mr. Sullivan Chime, former Governor of Enugu State (has executive experience; left Enugu state much better than he met it; he is in the ruling party now)
9. Mr Ben Akabueze (former Commissioner for Budget and Economic Planning under Tinubu and Fasola; he is in the ruling party)
10. Mrs. Obi Ezekwesili (Yes, Oby hahahaha - Nigeria needs a revolutionist who can go against the established system, just like Trump)

Honorable mention:

Mr Uchechukwu Ogah [(current Minister for State for Mines and Steel; very successful industrialist; he is in the ruling party). However, too early to call until we see how he performs during this period]

This list is limited to South East Igbos who are either currently in Nigeria or those who have had significant Nigerian experience in the last several years. Igbos outside Nigeria without significant Nigerian experience are excluded.

Mostly solid list. But one thing is very glaring. None of them have the national clout/power to get elected.

kayfra:



Mostly solid list. But one thing is very glaring. None of them have the national clout/power to get elected.

I have already rebuked the OP by his biased removal of Rochas, Kalu and Nnamani. You don't talk about national politics without these names currently.

UdechiHD:
Onyeama is a good option for President. I think the APC may see him as a viable flagbearer for their party. Him, Ngige, Akabueze and Nnamani are members of the party and they can become prized asset to the South East.
Their elevation for Presidency in the APC still a win win for the South East.

Of course, because he is a pushover like Jonathan and even Osinbajo. Kingmakers want stooges they can throw out like they did to Ambode.

Igbos cannot support such people.

This is so redundant, it's like putting the cart before the horse.


The PDP you follow follow is not interested in any candidate from the SE, in 1999, they zoned to the North.

In 2023, they again zoned to the North.

So, of what relevance is any candidate and all the people you are parading and fighting over?

The PDP is not stupid, any candidate or even running mate from the SE is not a winning combination, abi is their any reason why the PDP refused to reward you with the presidency for your loyalty and votes election after election?

You people are hard learners.

UdechiHD:
I have already rebuked the OP by his biased removal of Rochas, Kalu and Nnamani. You don't talk about national politics without these names currently.

Rochas is not an Igbo man.

UdechiHD:
The SE delegates shared their votes. Chief Nwobodo an eternal enemy of Ekwueme was used by the Jos Mafia to swing half of SE votes to Obasanjo.

The northerners shared their votes between Ekwueme and Obasanjo same as the south-south. It was the middlebelt overwhelming votes that swung in favour of Obasanjo and this was made possible with the influence of Solomon Lar, IBB, Abdulsalam and the Langtang Generals during the Jos convention.

I think Chief Okwesileze Nwodo supported Ekwueme at to the end based on the what transpired then coz he was the national secretary of PDP then, unless if I’m mixing name up. it can also be argued the the Igbos voted for their own and Babangida had to solicit for the middlebelt and the core north vote for OBJ.

Initially the PDP caucus resorted to make Dr. Ekwueme the sole candidate before Babangida convinced them to make support Obasanjo due to the fact that:

Babangida was trying to put the June 12 debacle behind him because he believed that the South West had actually been pushed to the wall so much so that they were already singing their own Oodua anthem and were already hoisting their own flag in some places and he believed that Nigeria could not survive another secessionist war so the way he saw fit to placate them and carry them along was to cede the presidency to the South West.

plaindealer:
This is so redundant, it's like putting the cart before the horse.


The PDP you follow follow is not interested in any candidate from the SE, in 1999, they zoned to the North.

In 2023, they again zoned to the North.

So, of what relevance is any candidate and all the people you are parading and fighting over?

The PDP is not stupid, any candidate or even running mate from the SE is not a winning combination, abi is their any reason why the PDP refused to reward you with the presidency for your loyalty and votes election after election?

You people are hard learners.

Obviously, you didn't read the topic. Open another topic to lament about your party politics. Allow us enjoy ourselves here. Bye.

SLAP44:


Of course, because he is a pushover like Jonathan and even Osinbajo. Kingmakers want stooges they can throw out like they did to Ambode.

Igbos cannot support such people.

Igbo support alone won't produce the President.
I like Onyeama as a person and if APC picks him for Presidency no problem. But such is a mirage. The likes of Rochas may get the nod even before Onyeama.

No region can produce the Presidency on it's own without the support of other regions.
Buhari's emergence as President in 2015 is a pointer to this fact.

SLAP44:


Obviously, you didn't read the topic. Open another topic to lament about your party politics. Allow us enjoy ourselves here. Bye.

Please educate us per how to become a great president without actually becoming the president, without political parties and platforms to run under.

The topic must be an exercise in futility or just lamentation..

UdechiHD:
Igbo support alone won't produce the President.
I like Onyeama as a person and if APC picks him for Presidency no problem. But such is a mirage. The likes of Rochas may get the nod even before Onyeama.

No region can produce the Presidency on it's own without the support of other regions.
Buhari's emergence as President in 2015 is a pointer to this fact.

What the topic is, is about Igbos that can make GREAT presidents, not Igbos other tribes can support. Please adhere accordingly.

Iblad0994:


I think Chief Okwesileze Nwodo supported Ekwueme at to the end based on the what transpired then coz he was the national secretary of PDP then, unless if I’m missing name up. it can also be argued the the Igbos voted for their own and Babangida had to solicit for the middlebelt and the core north vote for OBJ.

Initially the PDP caucus resorted to make Dr. Ekwueme the sole candidate before Babangida convinced them to make support Obasanjo due to the fact that:

Babangida was trying to put the June 12 debacle behind him because he believed that the South West had actually been pushed to the wall so much so that they were already singing their own Oodua anthem and were already hoisting their own flag in some places and he believed that Nigeria could not survive another secessionist war so the way he saw fit to placate them and carry them along was to cede the presidency to the South West.

True! But Ekwueme got more votes from the core north than Obasanjo. The Shagari political family and Ekwueme northern G-24 group didn't disappoint him.

Yes Nwobodo was a jester, but Obasanjo's emergence was the making of the middle belt financed by IBB, Abdulsalam and the Langtang Generals loyal to him.

IBB and Abdulsalami made Obasanjo President.

plaindealer:




Please educate us per how to become a great president without actually becoming the president, without political parties and platforms to run under.

The topic must be an exercise in futility or just lamentation..

Start from counting one, before counting two. This topic is about those Igbos that have the capacity to lead Nigeria out of the jungle, not those that will end up another Buharri who will cause trouble to the economy of the country.

The keyword here is Great.

SLAP44:


What the topic is, is about Igbos that can make GREAT presidents, not Igbos other tribes can support. Please adhere accordingly.

How do you even reconcile both...


You are funny...

SLAP44:


What the topic is, is about Igbos that can make GREAT presidents, not Igbos other tribes can support. Please adhere accordingly.

Dont mind him He is hard of hearing, let alone learning

SLAP44:


Start from counting one, before counting two. This topic is about those Igbos that have the capacity to lead Nigeria out of the jungle, not those that will end up another Buharri who will cause trouble to the economy of the country.

The keyword here is Great.

How exactly how are they going to do that? By abrakadabra?

Jokers..

UdechiHD:
True! But Ekweme got more votes from the core north than Obasanjo. The Shagari political family and Ekwueme northern G-20 group didn't disappoint him.
Yes Nwobodo was a jester, but Obasanjo's emergence was the making of the middle belt financed by IBB, Abdulsalam and the Langtang Generals loyal to him.
IBB and Abdulsalami made Obasanjo President.

I agree with your assertion.

Many people did not even know the SW tried the antics of seceding then during that fallout, how I wish the South did not fall for the gimmicks of Babangida then maybe Nigeria would have disintegrated and each region would have grown at their own pace now whether as a different country or different region.

The other reason why Babangida did not support Ekwueme was that That Ekwueme was angling at the last Constitutional Conference for regional armies and some people felt that that suggestion was fraught with the possibility of secession.


It’s a game of the north against the whole south. The political Maradona played it well and we are still all trapped in this Nigeria till now.

plaindealer:



How do you even reconcile both...


You are funny...

Awolowo, who would have made a very great Nigerian president, is an example of how you can reconcile both.
Besides, if not that you are an irredeemable tribalist, you would have noticed several APC members on the list. Or are Igbo APC members not a APC again?

UdechiHD:
You hit the nail on the head.
Obasanjo was worst yet the establishment selected him to be President. The likes of Rochas and Kalu still has what it takes to assuade their party for nomination.

With fright in my mind, I have to agree with you on this. Nigeria has an unwritten law about electing the worst of us over the best of us, and that's why we have been crawling as toddlers at age 59.

But should the Igbos go ahead and support the worst of their men just because Nigeria functions abnormally?. I think Igbos must support only those that has the capacity to become great presidents, not mediocre men like the rest of Nigeria loves to push up there.

Iblad0994:


I agree with your assertion.

Many people did not even know the SW tried the antics of seceding then during that fallout, how I wish the South did not fall for the gimmicks of Babangida then maybe Nigeria would have disintegrated and each region would have grown at their own pace now whether as a different country or different region.

The other reason why Babangida did not support Ekwueme was that That Ekwueme was angling at the last Constitutional Conference for regional armies and some people felt that that suggestion was fraught with the possibility of secession.


It’s a game of the north against the whole south. The political Maradona played it well and we are still all trapped in this Nigeria till now.

You've said it all. This is the reality of what transpired.
Modern Nigeria democracy is still stucked in IBB's political labyrinth. No headway in sight.

SLAP44:


With fright in my mind, I have to agree with you on this. Nigeria has an unwritten law about electing the worst of us over the best of us, and that's why we have been crawling as toddlers at age 59.

But should the Igbos go ahead and support the worst of their men just because Nigeria functions abnormally?. I think Igbos must support only those that has the capacity to become great presidents, not mediocre men like the rest of Nigeria loves to push up there.

Bro Nigeria is complex and the reason why we are still in this state we are was that most Nigerians are not realist. We only believe in dreams with is hard to realize.

Like UdechiHD mentioned up there, you gotta include the likes of Kalu and Okorocha, those guys are still sellable in the north and in as much as Nigeria still practices democracy, you need to present someone that will get at least some votes in the North and SW.

To be honest, the Yoruba voters are core democrat, they will vote an Igbo man if alliance can be built before then. Tho it might be a mirage for now considering the political system currently, but I can attest to the fact that normal Yoruba voters can vote who they like based on manifesto and if you can appeal to their psyche.

For e.g. people voted Obi in the SW even considering the fact that Osibanjo is on the ballot as VP.

Okonjo Iweala and the other featherweight won’t even get up to 3 million votes in a presidential election so in as much as you’re trying to solicit for people’s opinion, you gotta base it on a little bit of reality.

I’m Yoruba and that’s what I think based on current political situation and Nigeria tribalistic democracy.

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astrodome:


Awolowo, who would have made a very great Nigerian president, is an example of how you can reconcile both.
Besides, if not that you are an irredeemable tribalist, you would have noticed several APC members on the list. Or are Igbo APC members not a APC again?

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Who is talking about Awolowo and what's my business with Awolowo?

What's tribalism got to do with stating obvious realities?

Confusion dey worry you too..

SLAP44:


With fright in my mind, I have to agree with you on this. Nigeria has an unwritten law about electing the worst of us over the best of us, and that's why we have been crawling as toddlers at age 59.

But should the Igbos go ahead and support the worst of their men just because Nigeria functions abnormally?. I think Igbos must support only those that has the capacity to become great presidents, not mediocre men like the rest of Nigeria loves to push up there.

In sincerity, I will even throw my vote behind a pragmatic Sowore than my worst brother Kalu. But Nigerian politics will never allow the competent personalities become President. This is the ugly reality we find ourselves.

UdechiHD:
Deziani sold that birthright when she used her ministry alienate us and empower only the militants and northerners. We gained nothing from her.

She's an opposite to the Ex Stock Exchange CEO Mrs Ndi Okereke-Onyiuke from Rivers who used her position to benefit our people.

It doesn't matter what she does, is like saying Evans is no longer Igbo cause his a kidnapper

GavelSlam:


All except the 2 etched out are free to run.

no put buhari there again

UdechiHD:
The OP is mischievous. I see some bias in this list.
Why remove the APC South Easterners from the list? This list was doctored by an Omanbala apologist.

Dave Umahi will make a better President than everyone in that list thereafter Soludo, Amaechi and Okonjo-Iweala.

Below are my list of Best President of South East extraction. I would go a bit to even add Igbo's from the SS. First from the list are south easterners.

1. Dave Umahi
2. Ken Nnamani
3. Charles Soludo
4. Sullivan Chime
5. Ngozi Okonjo Iweala (Rep Abia)

Igbos from the SS will include

1. Rotimi Amaechi
2. Ifeanyi Okowa
3. Liyel Imoke
4. Pat Utomi
5. Ibe Kachikwu

The likes of Peter Obi and Nyesom Wike have no business in my list. Both lack charisma.

Putting umahi there is like driving incompetence to the highest level.

Maybe na Ebonyi state 300 thousand voting strength will deliver him...

Ken Nnamani..what insolence..


Infact by 2023 let umahi present himself..and suffer the greatest humiliation of his life..



Let him come out...

astrodome:

I did not see any views he has that are supportive of corruption

ignore that APC tout.

MelesZenawi:



Putting umahi there is like driving incompetence to the highest level.

Maybe na Ebonyi state 300 thousand voting strength will deliver him...

Ken Nnamani..what insolence..


Infact by 2023 let umahi present himself..and suffer the greatest humiliation of his life..



Let him come out...

Why so fixated on Umahi, bros? This your OCD is getting huge day by day.

UdechiHD:
The only APC member in that list is not even really a staunch party man in the person of Chris Ngige.

The likes of Rochas and Orji Uzor Kalu are painted black in the list.

Ogbonnaya Onu also has the electoral experience too and would have been a good Presidential candidate if not for his political silence. I think the likes of Onu,Amaechi and Rocha's should jostle for the APC ticket.
While others vie for that of the PDP.

Is now obvious what all these Ebonyi monikers are doing are you be singing praises of umahi, on, elechi while hunger thins them to 41 days dry fasting.




Reality is always far from there...

UdechiHD:

Every politician is a thief. From north, west, east and south.
Peter Obi is dirty and was fortunate to have used tribal politics to defeat Chris Ngige in his 2nd term.
Had Ngige won that election, foul nyash would have open. I repeat, the only clean politician in Anambra state is Chris Ngige.
Peter Obi is an hypocrite who invested Anambra stare money into his personal business.
Rochas stole flamboyantly but Peter Obi stole hypocritically.

Now you see the exact mindset umahi didn't support Atiku.


How on Earth did obi used tribal politics on Ngige of same state and both Igbo...


Ngige that stopped winning election since 1800..

Drop Peter obi and umahi.....Umahi will just crawl like a baby and crawl back to his hut....coz he will be consumed.