Gentlemanforyou:
thanks but I think an older friend of mine is about getting scammed because he is in contact with an agent who is charging them 800k for visa and accommodation in Canada. Is he being scammed ?

Abeg, tell your older friend to donate the money to my NGO. That way, he would have rendered help to humanity instead of going to throw money away.

How many times do we have to tell you this? There is no such thing as visa and accommodation. Besides, where is he going to get a house in Canada for less than $2,000, except maybe in Manitoba province?

gimakon:


Like i said, its not compulsory you follow what i have all laid out. Our thumb print is different and so is our pattern of reasoning. You can follow EE , I can follow Angel investor or TRV, All of us would still land at the same PR. Your choice.
And yes, I have seen someone who recently submitted for PNP and got a refusal letter for Manitoba, his ploy was to apply for PR in the long run. So you see it does not matter. I also have a family friend who has spent 1 year in Canada with study permit and his other brother was given 10 years which expires 2029 , and its TRV. What matters most is the way your applications are submitted.

EE is not the 100% way. should there have raised eyebrows, it is likely to become as difficult as US B1/B2 visas. Take time to explore other chances. Thats the whole english i have been speaking all these while.

if your papers and documents are legit pnp and ee wont reject you. Nigerian have been known to claim arrangee relatives in manitoba so tell your friend to tell you the truth. EE all the way

Tina26:
if your papers and documents are legit pnp and ee wont reject you. Nigerian have been known to claim arrangee relatives in manitoba so tell your friend to tell you the truth. EE all the way

Thats why i said, What i do is not compulsory. Your choice.
Likewise if your Papers are Real , they'd consider you for TRV 10 years. Its still your choice that matters. Canada gives visas to anyone , EE and whatever. If they did not deem it so, they would not show it to the public.

I never debunked EE mind you, we have different mindsets. Everyone must not follow what you do.
I wish you best and I pray you get your PR vis EE.
Jah bless!

gimakon:



- Angel investor
- Working Holiday

There appear to be many more, many of them would want you to first of all have a physical interaction with them, At least those two i am quite sure of. Working Holiday is more like a Visit visa only its possible that the tendency of work permit is sure after which you can apply for the same PR after a year, hence I wanted to ask to know if really these people know what they are saying exactly.
Angel Investor, you can have a Business Idea and have someone assist in the incubation / Funding for the Business Idea, switching to PR later can also be easier in this one

My case, I like to make plans before I think of leaving anywhere. There and then possibility of getting PR is sure. Trouble is getting an investor to buy into your Idea, one of which I decided to use a visit visa first to see how things are done, then see if I can liase with an investor first of all. I have a job here, hence I took the TRV as a pathway into Canada , first of all.

There are other multiple ways. EE and Study permit are the only ones most of us here are open to. Hence many ignorant people here are praying for other peoples downfall in the name of bitter truth.. No research, nothing.

Its not about getting PR or PNP before the PR, how about thinking about this, You can submit for PR or PNP and still be denied because its possible the skill you have made available is not required or they have much hands (I think its better put this way) who handle the job, many would be forced to stick to menial jobs and what not. Its skilled labour hence, do not expect what you do, they would not have hands who can also do them. One of another reasons it would be a wiser idea i stayed with TRV, to survey after which i figure a way around getting PR.

Consider cost. How about spending all your life savings to get PR and you land PR and you do not have enough cash with you to lead you on? What we see in present day Nigeria is not bed of roses (My thinking). You would want to have cash at hand, to pay for some bills first of all, and then source for a job. I decided to use a cheaper visa to achieve all I wanted, its going to take sometime, but i just feel its worth it. Throwing cash around when you do not know what would get to you in a far away land, has to be averted. I do not know how others think, but this is how i reason.

Its never compulsory to follow my own path, many things i have said on here are on IRCC and canadavisa.com its a matter of personal research and youtubing, thats all..,i have too many ideas off my sleeves. About the open opportunities, You did see i put it in Quotes. Thats what many has been saying on several forums. Nothing necessary.

Angel investors, start-up visas and the likes are all under the economic immigration pathways abi? I had covered these, perhaps loosely, in my original question with the etc

Bawss1:

What other means are there to enter and stay in Canada long term other than the economic migration pathways like EE, PNP,etc and schooling?

I was under the impression you were privy to some other immigration routes that are not listed on the IRCC site

gimakon:


Thats why i said, What i do is not compulsory. Your choice.
Likewise if your Papers are Real , they'd consider you for TRV 10 years. Its still your choice that matters. Canada gives visas to anyone , EE and whatever. If they did not deem it so, they would not show it to the public.

I never debunked EE mind you, we have different mindsets. Everyone must not follow what you do.
I wish you best and I pray you get your PR vis EE.
Jah bless!

A temporary residence visa is not an immigration pathway. TRV holders are either students or visitors. Anybody who tells you otherwise also has a bridge to sell to you.

Bawss1:


Angel investors, start-up visas and the likes are all under the economic immigration pathways abi? I had covered these, perhaps loosely, in my original question with the etc

I was under the impression you were privy to some other immigration routes that are not listed on the IRCC site

The others maybe Illegal. I do not know anything Illegal and Perhaps I would not want to be party to illegal immigration of any sort.
I decided to choose what I know best. Not put all my eggs in one basket in the name of Immigration. I do know i have EE as my last resort should all these ones fail (I do not pray so), i recently submitted for TRV and i await decision, as apparently I have not heard from them. There after i get the entry visa, I am a week far from the Notice generally given for Passport Request (Gods grace). Until now no notice for my application has been given, once I see a positive I could resort to visiting jobbank.gc.ca or seek self employment and know what I could do for myself from there.

Best of luck in your endeavors for EE. I wish you well.
Jah Bless.

Bawss1:


A temporary residence visa is not an immigration pathway. TRV holders are either students or visitors. Anybody who tells you otherwise also has a bridge to sell to you.

Dont get me wrong, I plan on maybe switching to Work permits or Self employment , there after i can convert to PR with any of the aforementioned ones i enlisted earlier. Possibly Angel investor.

gimakon:


Dont get me wrong, I plan on maybe switching to Work permits or Self employment , there after i can convert to PR with any of the aforementioned ones i enlisted earlier. Possibly Angel investor.

FYI the only way to switch from a TRV to a work permit is if you come in as a student and have completed your studies. You cannot get a work permit as a visitor while in Canada.

Bawss1:


FYI the only way to switch from a TRV to a work permit is if you come in as a student and have completed your studies. You cannot get a work permit as a visitor while in Canada.

I know that part, You have to apply first for the job, then if you get an Offer and the employer likes you , then he can seek For LMIA for you. My indian friends schooled me that part clearly so I know whats up.
After the LMIA , you have to exit Canada and apply for a Work Permit. Then Later on PR.

What if you dont get a job? I'd think of Self employment. Several Provinces in Canada allow you to run business for sole proprietorship , without you registering. So its a win win for me.

Bawss1:


FYI the only way to switch from a TRV to a work permit is if you come in as a student and have completed your studies. You cannot get a work permit as a visitor while in Canada.

no need arguing with him. He is a deluded fellow. Is lMAI that easy to get. There are pr holders here already with no good jobs( including Indian IT gurus) . Why will any employer want to process an lMAI when canadians and PR holders are on ground. Some people are obsessed with short cuts. Self employed in a TRV. What a big joke

Bawss1:


A temporary residence visa is not an immigration pathway. TRV holders are either students or visitors. Anybody who tells you otherwise also has a bridge to sell to you.

hmmmm. We will all be alright last last. To me ee sure pass all this gamble

gimakon:


I know that part, You have to apply first for the job, then if you get an Offer and the employer likes you , then he can seek For LMIA for you. My indian friends schooled me that part clearly so I know whats up.
After the LMIA , you have to exit Canada and apply for a Work Permit. Then Later on PR.

What if you dont get a job? I'd think of Self employment. Several Provinces in Canada allow you to run business for sole proprietorship , without you registering. So its a win win for me.

That's not how it works. If you go to Canada as a visitor you will not be allowed to work in any capacity, whether self-employed or otherwise. The only way to get around this is illegal and you will suffer needlessly for any little gains till you eventually get caught by the authorities.

Also, no province or territory in Canada will let you set up a business without providing the necessary documentation and permits. There is no exception on this matter for citizens or PR let alone visitors.

There is no way to transition from a visitor to a PR without going through the pathways provided by the government. If you are intent on relocating to Canada and living a peaceful life you will do well to be guided by the stipulations on the IRCC site.

Be careful not to fall for the stories of people who claim they have ways of beating the system.

Bawss1:


That's not how it works. If you go to Canada as a visitor you will not be allowed to work in any capacity, whether self-employed or otherwise. The only way to get around this is illegal and you will suffer needlessly for any little gains till you eventually get caught by the authorities.

Also, no province or territory in Canada will let you set up a business without providing the necessary documentation and permits. There is no exception on this matter for citizens or PR let alone visitors.

There is no way to transition from a visitor to a PR without going through the pathways provided by the government. If you are intent on relocating to Canada and living a peaceful life you will do well to be guided by the stipulations on the IRCC site.

Be careful not to fall for the stories of people who claim they have ways of beating the system.

I was told if you buy a house in Canada, you will be automatically granted citizenship or Pr

Gentlemanforyou:
I was told if you buy a house in Canada, you will be automatically granted citizenship or Pr

Hahaha
If that is the case, the chinese would have taken over Canada.

I'm not sure you read what I said earlier, I'd appreciate you listen attentively to what I wrote and then conclude.
Listen, I said I first have to apply for the job before anything. So it means, I'd use the TRV to seek a job and not work

It's trail looks like this : Visit visa -> get a job or start self employment / sole proprietorship -> source for Work permit -> source for PR

After sometime ,if I be able to have good source of income I can then decide to make it an enterprise, register a business, get LMIA possibly and start employing Nigerians if possible.. In Nigeria here I work as a software engineer for a bank and I have another remote job which I registered a business name for. So I don't see the problem doing the same thing in Canada. So you see, I listed my plans all out, it all depends on human thinking and what he or she has to offer anyways. Only Canada is different.

All things I speak of Here is in good faith only. It's not compulsory to follow my lead.

Now the part of which I spoke about running my own business. It's a bad thing people do not make research well. Don't expect me to spoonfeed all of you on here with all my plans, c'mon we are adults and we are liable for our own motives and initiative as well.

Now read here https://canadabusiness.ca/programs/registry-of-companies-newfoundland-and-labrador-1/

And the same applies to nearly all provinces, so please anything I say here comes directly from whatever I read on IRCC website. Don't misunderstand me, I must not school everyone about what I have to do in future. If you want to ask me anything, we can talk privately, I'd appreciate it even more.

Bawss1:


That's not how it works. If you go to Canada as a visitor you will not be allowed to work in any capacity, whether self-employed or otherwise. The only way to get around this is illegal and you will suffer needlessly for any little gains till you eventually get caught by the authorities.

Also, no province or territory in Canada will let you set up a business without providing the necessary documentation and permits. There is no exception on this matter for citizens or PR let alone visitors.

There is no way to transition from a visitor to a PR without going through the pathways provided by the government. If you are intent on relocating to Canada and living a peaceful life you will do well to be guided by the stipulations on the IRCC site.

Be careful not to fall for the stories of people who claim they have ways of beating the system.

ednut1:
700k cannot even buy your family tickets talk less of processing canada visa

How much can comfortable cover every expenses of going to Canada from Visa to arrival?
Family of 4 (ages 4 &2)

gimakon:
I'm not sure you read what I said earlier, I'd appreciate you listen attentively to what I wrote and then conclude.
Listen, I said I first have to apply for the job before anything. So it means, I'd use the TRV to seek a job and not work

It's trail looks like this : Visit visa -> get a job or start self employment / sole proprietorship -> source for Work permit -> source for PR

After sometime ,if I be able to have good source of income I can then decide to make it an enterprise, register a business, get LMIA possibly and start employing Nigerians if possible.. In Nigeria here I work as a software engineer for a bank and I have another remote job which I registered a business name for. So I don't see the problem doing the same thing in Canada. So you see, I listed my plans all out, it all depends on human thinking and what he or she has to offer anyways. Only Canada is different.

All things I speak of Here is in good faith only. It's not compulsory to follow my lead.

Now the part of which I spoke about running my own business. It's a bad thing people do not make research well. Don't expect me to spoonfeed all of you on here with all my plans, c'mon we are adults and we are liable for our own motives and initiative as well.

Now read here https://canadabusiness.ca/programs/registry-of-companies-newfoundland-and-labrador-1/

And the same applies to nearly all provinces, so please anything I say here comes directly from whatever I read on IRCC website. Don't misunderstand me, I must not school everyone about what I have to do in future. If you want to ask me anything, we can talk privately, I'd appreciate it even more.

you cannot register a business on a visit visa. Stop complicating things for your self and apply throught the right channels. The documents required for business registration cannot be obtained with visit visa. There are canadians and indian IT specialists down in canada why should anyone wait 5 months to get you an lmai. Bros wake up

Coolgent:


How much can comfortable cover every expenses of going to Canada from Visa to arrival?
Family of 4 (ages 4 &2)

depends on the route you qualify for or want to take.

Tina26:
you cannot register a business on a visit visa. Stop complicating things for your self and apply throught the right channels. The documents required for business registration cannot be obtained with visit visa. There are canadians and indian IT specialists down in canada why should anyone wait 5 months to get you an lmai. Bros wake up

Na WA o. Do I need to explain things again. I showed you a description of what I plan on doing, sole proprietorship is what I been hammering on, and I said, later on. English is not hard.

gimakon:


Na WA o. Do I need to explain things again. I showed you a description of what I plan on doing, sole proprietorship is what I been hammering on, and I said, later on. English is not hard.

sole proprietorship files monthly returns for profit/losses ( how would you do that without a Canadian Social Insurance Number (SIN) . stop making a fool of yourself mister. sole proprietorship is not possible on a TRV. follow the right channels.


Payment of taxes on business income
A sole proprietor pays taxes by reporting income (or loss) on a T1 income tax and benefit return.

If you are a sole proprietor, you or your authorized representative have to file a T1 return if you:

have to pay tax for the year
disposed of a capital property or had a taxable capital gain in the year
have to make Canada Pension Plan/Quebec Pension Plan (CPP/QPP) payments on self-employed earnings or pensionable earnings for the year
want to access employment insurance (EI) special benefits for self-employed persons
received a demand from us to file a return
You also need to file a return if you are claiming an income tax refund, a refundable tax credit, a GST/HST credit, or the Canada Child Benefit. You should also file a return if you are entitled to receive provincial tax credits.

The list above does not include every situation where you may have to file. If you are not sure whether you have to file, call 1-800-959-5525 .

https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/tax/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed-income/setting-your-business/sole-proprietorship.html

OK I didn't see that part. I guess I have to do some more research on this as well.
Thanks for the update.

Tina26:
sole proprietorship files monthly returns for profit/losses ( how would you do that without a Canadian Social Insurance Number (SIN) . stop making a fool of yourself mister. sole proprietorship is not possible on a TRV. follow the right channels.


Payment of taxes on business income
A sole proprietor pays taxes by reporting income (or loss) on a T1 income tax and benefit return.

If you are a sole proprietor, you or your authorized representative have to file a T1 return if you:

have to pay tax for the year
disposed of a capital property or had a taxable capital gain in the year
have to make Canada Pension Plan/Quebec Pension Plan (CPP/QPP) payments on self-employed earnings or pensionable earnings for the year
want to access employment insurance (EI) special benefits for self-employed persons
received a demand from us to file a return
You also need to file a return if you are claiming an income tax refund, a refundable tax credit, a GST/HST credit, or the Canada Child Benefit. You should also file a return if you are entitled to receive provincial tax credits.

The list above does not include every situation where you may have to file. If you are not sure whether you have to file, call 1-800-959-5525 .

https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/tax/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed-income/setting-your-business/sole-proprietorship.html

You can make your point without insulting people or hushing them down. Very unruly of you. This is a forum, arguments must always arise. You may choose EE(none of my business) I may choose TRV / Business class (none of your business) what matters most is airing views and coming to a formal conclusion of what is better. You sound like it's a tug of war, I have maturity and I'd let it fly. You may not be lucky next time ,especially when it comes to people who don't have patience.

If you know very well you'd give corrections without insulting people, be quiet, let someone else show the way. You can go now.

Tina26:
sole proprietorship files monthly returns for profit/losses ( how would you do that without a Canadian Social Insurance Number (SIN) . stop making a fool of yourself mister. sole proprietorship is not possible on a TRV. follow the right channels.


Payment of taxes on business income
A sole proprietor pays taxes by reporting income (or loss) on a T1 income tax and benefit return.

If you are a sole proprietor, you or your authorized representative have to file a T1 return if you:

have to pay tax for the year
disposed of a capital property or had a taxable capital gain in the year
have to make Canada Pension Plan/Quebec Pension Plan (CPP/QPP) payments on self-employed earnings or pensionable earnings for the year
want to access employment insurance (EI) special benefits for self-employed persons
received a demand from us to file a return
You also need to file a return if you are claiming an income tax refund, a refundable tax credit, a GST/HST credit, or the Canada Child Benefit. You should also file a return if you are entitled to receive provincial tax credits.

The list above does not include every situation where you may have to file. If you are not sure whether you have to file, call 1-800-959-5525 .

https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/tax/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed-income/setting-your-business/sole-proprietorship.html

gimakon:
You can make your point without insulting people or hushing them down. Very unruly of you. This is a forum, arguments must always arise. You may choose EE(none of my business) I may choose TRV / Business class (none of your business) what matters most is airing views and coming to a formal conclusion of what is better. You sound like it's a tug of war, I have maturity and I'd let it fly. You may not be lucky next time ,especially when it comes to people who don't have patience.

If you know very well you'd give corrections without insulting people, be quiet, let someone else show the way. You can go now.

you are not smarter or wiser than those going through study, work permit or EE. you are basing your plans on hear say and false assumptions . continue , i pity those you will mislead

Tina26:
you are not smarter or wiser than those going through study, work permit or EE. you are basing your plans on hear say and false assumptions . continue , i pity those you will mislead

Good a thing, I don't mislead people. I don't take money for travel parole from anyone. I do for myself and I'm comfortable with it. I have a good job, by God's grace, money isn't my worry, so misleading people is out of it madam. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Keep your assuming assumptions and whatever to yourself.
I said, what I say here is in good faith only, it's not compulsory to follow. I won't be a party to making visa paroles difficult for others as well.. Like I said go through your EE (it's none of my business) I go through any route (none of your business) we will still arrive at PR. Why are you angry and insulting me and saying I mislead people? Did I propose visa to you? See trouble o. Pls if you have issues with people, don't bring it here.

I'm not smart, OK I know. Pls leave it. The job way I day work for Nigeria, na your smartness give me the job, I Don hear.

gimakon:


Good a thing, I don't mislead people. I don't take money for travel parole from anyone. I do for myself and I'm comfortable with it. I have a good job, by God's grace, money isn't my worry, so misleading people is out of it madam. Sorry to burst your bubble.
Keep your assuming assumptions and whatever to yourself.
I said, what I say here is in good faith only, it's not compulsory to follow. I won't be a party to making visa paroles difficult for others as well.. Like I said go through your EE (it's none of my business) I go through any route (none of your business) we will still arrive at PR. Why are you angry and insulting me and saying I mislead people? Did I propose visa to you? See trouble o. Pls if you have issues with people, don't bring it here.

I'm not smart, OK I know. Pls leave it. The job way I day work for Nigeria, na your smartness give me the job, I Don hear.

https://www.nairaland.com/5063504/relocation-barbados with the so called job dem still deny you US visa lol. one would think you are a senior manager or regional manager . run along mr delusion

Tina26:

https://www.nairaland.com/5063504/relocation-barbados with the so called job dem still deny you US visa lol. one would think you are a senior manager or regional manager . run along mr delusion

Eya, thank you Ma, I won't talk back at you. And again, Barbados doesn't require visas. And this was basically when I went for US visas, I posted this, which is not like now. So sorry MA, Barbados does not need visas and a reasonable person on here advised I try Canada.

I followed TRV because very soon if the discovery of EE as influx has been noticed, they might make it hard for people going through it, secondly I feel I can use a cheaper visa to achieve my aim, insulting me and saying all you like won't slow me down. It would only urge me to work hard even more. So thanks for showcasing your ignorance on here. I'm not smart I agree, but I ask you again, na your smartness give the job way I day work for Nigeria abi?

Thanks for your input, you did well. I'm happy you dug up old threads, continue digging, it's good for you.

Tina26:
no need arguing with him. He is a deluded fellow. Is lMAI that easy to get. There are pr holders here already with no good jobs( including Indian IT gurus) . Why will any employer want to process an lMAI when canadians and PR holders are on ground. Some people are obsessed with short cuts. Self employed in a TRV. What a big joke

Spot on, lots of jokers on this thread, sometimes I just laugh at people's ignorance, few years ago, I met 2 guys in Toronto with PhD (obtained in Canada) and jobless, I lost contact with them and I don't know if they eventually got a job, it is sometimes better to ignore some folks on this board because they are ignorant of the situation on ground

AngelicBeing:
Spot on, lots of jokers on this thread, sometimes I just laugh at people's ignorance, few years ago, I met 2 guys in Toronto with PhD (obtained in Canada) and jobless, I lost contact with them and I don't know if they eventually got a job, it is sometimes better to ignore some folks on this board because they are ignorant of the situation on ground

i wonder who will give him TRV when they know whats up. LMAI assessment and self employed my foot. this is someone usa denied visit visa he then thinks he stands a chance with canada trv. ignoramus

Bawss1:


That's not how it works. If you go to Canada as a visitor you will not be allowed to work in any capacity, whether self-employed or otherwise. The only way to get around this is illegal and you will suffer needlessly for any little gains till you eventually get caught by the authorities.

Also, no province or territory in Canada will let you set up a business without providing the necessary documentation and permits. There is no exception on this matter for citizens or PR let alone visitors.

There is no way to transition from a visitor to a PR without going through the pathways provided by the government. If you are intent on relocating to Canada and living a peaceful life you will do well to be guided by the stipulations on the IRCC site.

Be careful not to fall for the stories of people who claim they have ways of beating the system.

Well said, some enter with visit visa and they go for Aduro levels / arrangee iyawo / oko route to buy time but all those kulikuli route don cast

Tina26:
i wonder who will give him TRV when they know whats up. LMAI assessment and self employed my foot. this is someone usa denied visit visa he then thinks he stands a chance with canada trv. ignoramus

You have time, arguing with folks here is a colossal waste of time

AngelicBeing:
Well said, some enter with visit visa and they go for Aduro levels / arrangee iyawo / oko route to buy time but all those kulikuli route don cast

That's not true though.

I know a number of people who went into Canada with a visiting visa and after some months got married to a Canadian Citizen and then the Canadian citizen filed for the person to get Canadian permanent residency.

Beautyaddy:


That's not true though.

I know a number of people who went into Canada with a visiting visa and after some months got married to a Canadian Citizen and then the Canadian citizen filed for the person to get Canadian permanent residency.

lt is the truth, some do genuine marriages and it sailed through while some others did arrangee marriage and it hit a Brickwall, I used the word "arrangee"