Mikolion87:


An optometrist is a doctor because his degree says so (Doctor of optometry). Dentists and Physicians are Doctors not necessarily because of their degree as most in our clime have "bachelors degree" (BDS and MBBS) not "doctorate" (D.O, PhD).

Optometrists do not perform surgeries, and the bulk of their work is done by Ophthalmologists. However, Dentists are the Primary Physicians and Surgeons of the Oral Cavity, and Maxillofacial region.

What makes one a "medical doctor" even without a doctorate, is the skills. (read that again slowly). lol

Optometrist bulk of work done by opthomologists? Who feed these dude with this kind of things these days? Nurses do surgeries in some countries, does it make them medical doctors. Advance nurse practitioners treat patients, diagnose and prescribe, does it make them Medical doctors. I work with a lot of Advance care practitioners who are sound and treat patients excellently. But they still maintain that they are not MBBs or MD

sgtponzihater1:


A specialist that cannot cross specialty is not a specialist. If I were a Surgeon, I could decide to become a cardiologist if I want to as my training permits. As a specialist Dentist sir, can you change specialty to OnG if you like your almighty 2 in 1 degree? Note that to even be accepted as a Medical Doctor, you must prove minimum of 12weeks ok internship in Medicine and surgery and Paediatrics. I know Dentistry offers those internship opportunities. I am off to work. Will possibly check on you when I return or during a break. Cheers

Your reasoning is appalling, why would you cross specialty. If you didn't like that specialty ab-initio then you could have gone through the other route for other specialties. So long as you're here, it is taken that that is where you want. If it doesn't interest you, you pursue what does.

I switched into Dentistry from Medicine because I love It for several reasons which I'll mention if you want to know. I don't intend specializing in any other specialty of Medicine even if I decide to get a medical degree. So yes, I'm a specialist, a dental surgeon. deal with it.

sgtponzihater1:


Optometrist bulk of work done by opthomologists? Who feed these dude with this kind of things these days? Nurses do surgeries in some countries, does it make them medical doctors. Advance nurse practitioners treat patients, diagnose and prescribe, does it make them Medical doctors. I work with a lot of Advance care practitioners who are sound and treat patients excellently. But they still maintain that they are not MBBs or MD

I corrected that statement already to what I was insinuating. So please read that again..

sgtponzihater1:


A specialist that cannot cross specialty is not a specialist. If I were a Surgeon, I could decide to become a cardiologist if I want to as my training permits. As a specialist Dentist sir, can you change specialty to OnG if you like your almighty 2 in 1 degree? Note that to even be accepted as a Medical Doctor, you must prove minimum of 12weeks ok internship in Medicine and surgery and Paediatrics. I know Dentistry offers those internship opportunities. I am off to work. Will possibly check on you when I return or during a break. Cheers

My friend, you have come again with another deceptive trick.. I doubt if you're a doctor as I know you for lies and cooking up stories (a lot of people have confirmed in various threads too). It's relieving that dentists do not have to rotate in internal medicine, surgery and pediatrics during internship. No one loves such stress. We can't be subjected to enormous amount of stress in undergraduate and still continue to do so.

However, it's a matter of choice. Dentists outrightly chose not to rotate in these other units during housemanship. Although, dental house officers in Sokoto rotate in these units (burst your bubbles Lol).

We still continue to rotate in Medicine and Surgery still yet during Residency.. Yet we're "just" Dentists Lol . Keep "working" funny dude Lol.

Who knows what else you'll come up with.. lol

Mikolion87:


My friend, you have come again with another deceptive trick.. I doubt if you're a doctor as I know you for lies and cooking up stories (a lot of people have confirmed in various threads too). It's relieving that dentists do not have to rotate in internal medicine, surgery and pediatrics during internship. No one loves such stress. We can't be subjected to enormous amount of stress in undergraduate and still continue to do so.

However, it's a matter of choice. Dentists outrightly chose not to rotate in these other units during housemanship. Although, dental house officers in Sokoto rotate in these units (burst your bubbles Lol).

We still continue to rotate in Medicine and Surgery still yet during Residency.. Yet we're "just" Dentists Lol . Keep "working" funny dude Lol.

Who knows what else you'll come up with.. lol

Sokoto is the yardstick of this man.

sgtponzihater1:


Sokoto is the yardstick of this man.

Lol. At least we can start from there. It shows we can rotate in medicine during internship if we choose to. Physicians in those units even want us to rotate, it will mean increased work force for them, it's not a big deal. But nah, we're satisfied with our specialty while still enjoying same renumeration.

Who wouldn't like to work less and earn more. I cannot come and kee mysef Lol

sgtponzihater1:


Tell the gullible ones you did Medicine and Surgery for a whole one year like MBBS. Or the one year Medics did Medicine and Surgery they were sleeping. Or you had the same Medicine and Surgery classes with Medics. And did all the Medicine posting they did. Also add a lie that you did the same Bachelors in paediatric and women health, and your final licence has licensed as a Medical practitioner on it.

Anyone who wants to go into Dentistry can and should, but shouldn't be recieved that it's the same with MBBS. Courses are never almost the same its either A or B, its either eight or eighteen, the een on it changes everything. Even Dental colleagues those day were more knowledgeable; they wanted to get done with their Medicine notes and face what really mattered to them, our lecturers hardly failed them in the short Medicine or Surgery courses they did too, because it wanted really their tuff. The Dental students were even the ones who first mentioned it that OMS bridges Medicine and dentistry, because during that posting you get to pick up valuable clinical skills. The truth makes us free, grow and fearless.

You won't be accepted to take USMLE or Plab or AMC because the Medicine you did cannot be be accepted by even Ghana to practice as a medical Doctor there, you have to follow your Dental pathway. Same way Doctors cannot switch to become dentists, they have to reattend dental school and vice versa. Safe

You have really exposed that you're really a liar. I can still remember our previous interactions where you stated that you had to call a elderly friend who is a dentist who told you OMFS is the bridge course between medicine and dentistry, and here you are saying your classmates (dental colleagues). You also mentioned you didn't know dentists do Medicine and Surgery as a course which led to you apologizing.. Here again you're mentioning the one your classmates in dentistry did Lol.

You can deceive others but definitely not me.

I never said I graduated with MBBS but that I wrote the exams. No one has the right to tell me not to mention what I actually received trainings in to become a Dental surgeon, except such a person is feeling threatened or insecure. But I care less. You may not regard dentists as Doctors but their title already calls them one (Doctors) and you can't do anything about it.

Lying will never do you any good. If you need help be sincere about it and you will get the help you need.

sgtponzihater1:


Dental training in Nigeria is now more Adequate than UK and US. What a shame!. Your curriculum is carved out of those systems and is patterned the same way. They do alot of rigorous Medical learning but know that they are not Medics. I did a lot of pharmacology back then, but not practicing it, I can't start claiming to be a pharmacologist too, even though I even wrote professional exams in it, I also did Medical Biochemistry, but wouldn't rub shoulders with those who did. I only did those courses are bedrocks to were I was eventually going to, and when I got there, I stood with my appellation and have never fought space with others. Again my Mentor is an erudite Professor of Dentistry but does not call himself a Medical Doctor.

Lies.. I knew it. If you're a doctor, then you should know that Physicians and dentists could also go into pharmacology (or any other preclinical or basic medical science) if they so wish to due to their basic training in these areas.

For instance, most of our pharmacology lecturers (pharmacologists) in my institution were all physicians (pharmacology and therapeutics is also a specialty of internal medicine). A physician/dentist can also choose to do a Masters degree to become more proficient in these areas you mentioned.

Aside all that, when it comes to Dentistry, it's a different ball game. Why? Because dentists already have The Dr title even without a "doctorate degree, as physicians (unlike others, OD, PharmD etc). It is globally accepted and are known with the title. There's a reason why it is so. Until you realize the reason, you'll keep running from pillar to post (including cooking up lies) just to satisfy your expectations.. Lol.

Have a nice day my friend.

Plenty of information(Information overload ) often is intended to distract and bamboozle
What is the real bone of contention ,the koko?

0monnak0da:
Plenty of information(Information overload ) often is intended to distract and bamboozle
What is the real bone of contention ,the koko?

Lol... Just having fun my friend

Mikolion87:


Why not be civilized, ask your questions and be duly educated or enlightened.

You are a sakamanje exponent.

Why would i want to be enlightened by a sakamanje exponent like you. Stop misinforming the public.

You are a dentist. Be proud of your profession and stay in your lane.

Some of the smartest guys i met in Uni were Dental students, and today they are proud of their profession. It takes a high level of inferiority complex to start claiming you studied Medicine and Surgery.

afrodoc2:


You are a sakamanje exponent.

Why would i want to be enlightened by a sakamanje exponent like you. Stop misinforming the public.
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You are a dentist. Be proud of your profession and stay in your lane.

Some of the smartest guys i met in Uni were Dental students, and today they are proud of their profession. It takes a high level of inferiority complex to start claiming you studied Medicine and Surgery.

big inferiority

afrodoc2:


You are a sakamanje exponent.

Why would i want to be enlightened by a sakamanje exponent like you. Stop misinforming the public.

You are a dentist. Be proud of your profession and stay in your lane.

Some of the smartest guys i met in Uni were Dental students, and today they are proud of their profession. It takes a high level of inferiority complex to start claiming you studied Medicine and Surgery.

Lol.. You sound so pained. Yeah, I'm a dentist and a Doctor (same way a dermatologist is a Doctor). My title already says so and you can't do anything about it.

I never said I graduated with MBBS but that I wrote the exams. No one has the right to come here and tell me not to mention the courses I actually trained in to become a Dental surgeon/Doctor. Cry me a river if you feel so pained.

That other dentists are lenient enough not to let the public know doesn't mean we should all ply that route. It's people like you who misinform the public, telling them dentistry is all about the teeth.

You bunch just want to derail this thread by bringing your insecurities here instead of facing your studies. But I'm glad very many people have benefited from it already. You may wallow in misery if you so wish.

sgtponzihater1:


big inferiority

Lol.. My friend hater, I can see you're gradually finding your voice back . No one feels inferior with the caliber of course I studied. If it wasn't worth it I wouldn't have persevered amidst the challenges and delays.

My title, what I do and the encyclopedic knowledge garnered all these years in Medicine and Dental surgery is enough to quench any inferiority

Mikolion87:


Lol.. My friend hater, I can see you're gradually finding your voice back . No one feels inferior with the caliber of course I studied. If it wasn't worth it I wouldn't have persevered amidst the challenges and delays.

My title, what I do and the encyclopedic knowledge garnered all these years in Medicine and Dental surgery is enough to quench any inferiority

We went through the rigorous and gruelling times too or even more, but the more we know, the more we realize there is so much that lie ahead and so much information untamed. No course exist called Medicine and Dental Surgery also, if ur bachelors is in Dental Surgery Embrace it, if its Medicine and Surgery celebrate it. May Nigeria be sane again so that charlatans or near charlatans like you can either stay in line or be kicked off the dangerous edge in which you stand.

Learn, pray, and then humble your self my dear Dentist to be ( as you don't have a provisional license yet)

Cheers

sgtponzihater1:


We went through the rigorous and gruelling times too or even more, but the more we know, the more we realize there is so much that lie ahead and so much information untamed. No course exist called Medicine and Dental Surgery also, if ur bachelors is in Dental Surgery Embrace it, if its Medicine and Surgery celebrate it. May Nigeria be sane again so that charlatans or near charlatans like you can either stay in line or be kicked off the dangerous edge in which you stand.


Learn, pray, and then humble your self my dear Dentist to be ( as you don't have a provisional license yet)

Cheers

Definitely no course called "Medicine and Dental surgery".. It's called Dentistry/Dental surgery. However, I'm only breaking down the courses involved. As confusing as it is, that's what makes Dentistry unique and one of a kind. Dentistry is literally "Medicine plus Dental surgery".

Go and tell all those dental students who failed out writing MBBS exams (especially 4th BDS/5th mbbs- Medicine and surgery) that they were all about the teeth and didn't study medicine and see if you won't be stoned Lol.

Dude, please move on...

Mikolion87:


Definitely no course called "Medicine and Dental surgery".. It's called Dentistry/Dental surgery. However, I'm only breaking down the courses involved. As confusing as it is, that's what makes Dentistry unique and one of a kind. Dentistry is literally "Medicine plus Dental surgery".

Go and tell all those dental students who failed out writing MBBS exams (especially 4th BDS/5th mbbs- Medicine and surgery) that they were all about the teeth and didn't study medicine and see if you won't be stoned Lol.

Dude, please move on...

Philosophy and most Art courses do almost 2/3rd of the courses Lawyers do. I have never heard them boast out like you do. Or Lawyers who did a lot of philosophy come out and say I am a philosopher + a lawyer combined. Only an inferior dude who probably couldn't merit the rigours of getting into MBBS can struggle to validate where he eventually is.

If you set out to study Dentistry abinitio we both know you won't concoct this gross,distorted , verbose and self seeking post that aims to massage your deflated ego, just to validate where you've found yourself. But I am almost certain that MBBS was ur childhood dream, but finding urself in hot water, the only device you can come up with is to turn the heat on and dance a shameful and painful Makossa like dance. But we all know it's a facade.

Dentistry is an amiable course, but its also quite boring if you got kicked into it by the vagaries and uncertainties that life present, rather than by your own passion and your own free will, and 95% of Dentists which you sadly belong to fall in this category. You will validate yourself all day by pay, by talking about undergraduate courses, by Federal Government pay, but will never find rest until you quit digging in the hole in which you've found yourself.

The remaining 5% who chose to do Dentistry out of free will and as their first and only choice enjoy the profession, savor its benefits, and remind themselves that while Medics toil the whole night, they can sleep the most part of the night, and attend to their patients on non emergency basis. You don't belong here at all and deep in your heart you know it. After you got booted out of your initial dream, you have sworn to fight on, to ask for a different group for Dental student while still remaining intoxicated, deluded, and manically obsessed and somewhat somatizing to the grossly erroneous, flawed and faulty belief that you still studied Medicine and Surgery whilst carrying a certificate that reads Bachelors of Dental Surgery, and a license which will not have Medical Practitioner written on it.

It will take a while, even awhile to debride this cancerous obsession from your grey matter but we won't allow your delusion rub off on others.

Cheers

sgtponzihater1:


Philosophy and most Art courses do almost 2/3rd of the courses Lawyers do. I have never heard them boast out like you do. Or Lawyers who did a lot of philosophy come out and say I am a philosopher + a lawyer combined. Only an inferior dude who probably couldn't merit the rigours of getting into MBBS can struggle to validate where he eventually is.

If you set out to study Dentistry abinitio we both know you won't concoct this gross,distorted , verbose and self seeking post that aims to massage your deflated ego, just to validate where you've found yourself. But I am almost certain that MBBS was ur childhood dream, but finding urself in hot water, the only device you can come up with is to turn the heat on and dance a shameful and painful Makossa like dance. But we all know it's a facade.

Dentistry is an amiable course, but its also quite boring if you got kicked into it by the vagaries and uncertainties that life present, rather than by your own passion and your own free will, and 95% of Dentists which you sadly belong to fall in this category. You will validate yourself all day by pay, by talking about undergraduate courses, by Federal Government pay, but will never find rest until you quit digging in the hole in which you've found yourself.

The remaining 5% who chose to do Dentistry out of free will and as their first and only choice enjoy the profession, savor its benefits, and remind themselves that while Medics toil the whole night, they can sleep the most part of the night, and attend to their patients on non emergency basis. You don't belong here at all and deep in your heart you know it. After you got booted out of your initial dream, you have sworn to fight on, to ask for a different group for Dental student while still remaining intoxicated, deluded, and manically obsessed and somewhat somatizing to the grossly erroneous, flawed and faulty belief that you still studied Medicine and Surgery whilst carrying a certificate that reads Bachelors of Dental Surgery, and a license which will not have Medical Practitioner written on it.

It will take a while, even awhile to debride this cancerous obsession from your grey matter but we won't allow your delusion rub off on others.

Cheers

Lol... Didn't know I am deserving of such grammar .. You may dm me if you want to see my original admission Letter into Medicine. I'm not like you who cooks up stories and lies.

The good thing is that everything you've said so far has been apportioned a place in the trash pit where it belongs. l do not need your validation about who I am or what I studied.

When next you meet your dentist for any procedure, you may refer to him as "Mr"... Shame will be yours if you refer to him as "Dr". You may now go ahead and tell people dentists studied only "teeth" for 6 years to become technologists . I cannot continue to waste my precious time on you. Carry cup, you don win Lol

Mikolion87:


Lol... Didn't know I am deserving of such grammar .. You may dm me if you want to see my original admission Letter into Medicine. I'm not like you who cooks up stories and lies.

The good thing is that everything you've said so far has been apportioned a place in the trash pit where it belongs. l do not need your validation about who I am.

When next you meet your dentist for any procedure, you may refer to him as "Mr"... Shame will be yours if you refer to him as "Dr". I cannot continue to waste my precious time on you. Carry cup, you don win Lol

Cheers Dr. We share a lot of things in common. I wish you success and hope going forward. It's not easy to succeed after being on the edge of a cliff nearly falling off. For that I pray that the shame of the past years will not be a weight on you as go proceed to more challenging territories.

BW

Afterthought: Struggling to do Medicine and Surgery at least 5 times must have had a toll on you. I totally understand why you feel you studied Medicine and Surgery as well as Dentistry. I could have had the same thoughts about Pharmacology, doing it again made me feel like I was a pharmacologist, when in fact it was one of those courses that I needed to pass through to my final Destination, but I am probably more mature, more focused, and less transient than you. We cannot all be the same though.

Again my latest Dr , BW

sgtponzihater1:


Cheers Dr. We share a lot of things in common. I wish you success and hope going forward. It's not easy to succeed after being on the edge of a cliff nearly falling off. For that I pray that the shame of the past years will not be a weight on you as go proceed to more challenging territories.

BW

Afterthought: Struggling to do Medicine and Surgery at least 5 times must have had a toll on you. I totally understand why you feel you studied Medicine and Surgery as well as Dentistry. I could have had the same thoughts about Pharmacology, doing it again made me feel like I was a pharmacologist, when in fact it was one of those courses that I needed to pass through to my final Destination, but I am probably more mature, more focused, and less transient than you. We cannot all be the same though.

Again my latest Dr , BW

What a good attempt, try harder boy. I actually find this hilarious though. Like I said, you may say whatever makes you feel better my boy.

It is no news that many Dentists studied Dentistry without adequate information about what it was all about until they started the training. It's all about awareness. And No one has the right to tell me not to educate the public about what it's actually about. You didn't write my exams for me. You may have met those who do not know the value of dentistry, but definitely not me (Not after moving into Dentistry from Medicine). What I don't understand is what you and your cohorts stand to benefit by wanting to derail this thread by abandoning the main message..

I wrote Medicine and Surgery several times, yes, and perhaps if you could study Dentistry in my institution, you probably wouldn't survive past the first professional exam. Everything a Doctor studies is to be utilized in the treatment of patients, that's what makes one a good Doctor. It's not to be thrown away (unlike some other courses).

I'm too mature to exchange words with you or to give in to your childish rants and vituperation.. Moreover, who knows, you're probably depressed. Your previous comments on various threads affirms that. And I know you're not a Doctor no matter how you claim to be. Don't allow me expose you further.

And oh, thank you for the compliments . Cheers

Gets more popcorn

MedicBlaze:
Gets more popcorn

I'll like to join you bro

Mikolion87:


What a good attempt, try harder boy. I actually find this hilarious though. Like I said, you may say whatever makes you feel better my boy.

It is no news that many Dentists studied Dentistry without adequate information about what it was all about until they started the training. It's all about awareness. And No one has the right to tell me not to educate the public about what it's actually about. You didn't write my exams for me. You may have met those who do not know the value of dentistry, but definitely not me (Not after moving into Dentistry from Medicine). What I don't understand is what you and your cohorts stand to benefit by wanting to derail this thread by abandoning the main message..

I wrote Medicine and Surgery several times, yes, and perhaps if you could study Dentistry in my institution, you probably wouldn't survive past the first professional exam. Everything a Doctor studies is to be utilized in the treatment of patients, that's what makes one a good Doctor. It's not to be thrown away (unlike some other courses).

I'm too mature to exchange words with you or to give in to your childish rants and vituperation.. Moreover, who knows, you're probably depressed. Your previous comments on various threads affirms that. And I know you're not a Doctor no matter how you claim to be. Don't allow me expose you further.

And oh, thank you for the compliments . Cheers

You don't use everything you learn in Medicine or any course for that matter. Most things in Medicine only aims to stretch your mind for the worst, and train your heart to accept that you know not all and matured enough to accept to your patients that you won't guess your way in the course of helping them, and that their safety is your priority. If I show you metaplasia of squamous cells on a microscope you certainly will not know it, or transitional cells of the GU tract you'll be lost, but you did histology, and you haven't committed any crime by not knowing it. Half of biochemistry and most of chemical pathology, and animal biology will be useless for years into your practice. Even as a older Doctor I know my limits and if you bring some cases to me, I simply say I don't have full information about it, but I can tell you how, were and when to seek help. I also keep most of the red flags close to mind. That's what stands us out, and what make us true Medical doctors and you a Dentist who dances about claiming to be trained in everything and knowing everything. Why you'll rush to MDEx to try and give a skewed account of yourself.

I need not glory in Medicine, Surgery, Paediatrics, OnG or even the fact that I have a certificate of full registration as a Medical Doctor so that even the Mentally impaired can see and know that I am a Medical Doctor, while you will have a Certificate of Full Registration as a Dental Practitioner and you will struggle, fight and cry all your life trying to convince visually unimpaired people that the Dental Surgeon that they clearly see on your Certificate and on the MDCN register is actually Medicine and Surgery and that those that placed your name on the Dental register are ill informed, yet nobody is blind, yet those who placed your name there and inducted you as a Dentist were there before you, and its only through surrender, humility, and clarity of purpose that you can ever walk in their shoes and not set yourself off to a collision course. Some may nod their heads and smile but others as smart as me will scold your absurd, mundane, crass, informed and ridiculous stream of untaught and grandeus thought.

The only solution is to stop trying and face the music, face what you have on paper and be grateful for what you have. You cannot have it all but holding what you have in your hands in a defective form is the biggest sin in the Universe, the same sin that made the formerly exalted angel of light, who held his position in a defective form equating his knowledge and glory with that of the most high because he knew and did almost everything with the MOST High, thrown off the radar of light to become a wandering star, milked of all his glory and splendour and set on a collision course that will resound till eternity. Don't make the same mistake even in your little but self exalted corner, take what you have on your Certificate, give God all the glory for it, remove yourself from the achievement, and let God make it gold.

When I first became a Doctor my Mum would get angry when I introduce my self with my first name alone, she wonder at the rationale, but I knew these things are fickle, and can fizzle in a flash. Don't rise and boast in any way. Peace

BW

sgtponzihater1:


Philosophy and most Art courses do almost 2/3rd of the courses Lawyers do. I have never heard them boast out like you do. Or Lawyers who did a lot of philosophy come out and say I am a philosopher + a lawyer combined. Only an inferior dude who probably couldn't merit the rigours of getting into MBBS can struggle to validate where he eventually is.

If you set out to study Dentistry abinitio we both know you won't concoct this gross,distorted , verbose and self seeking post that aims to massage your deflated ego, just to validate where you've found yourself. But I am almost certain that MBBS was ur childhood dream, but finding urself in hot water, the only device you can come up with is to turn the heat on and dance a shameful and painful Makossa like dance. But we all know it's a facade.

Dentistry is an amiable course, but its also quite boring if you got kicked into it by the vagaries and uncertainties that life present, rather than by your own passion and your own free will, and 95% of Dentists which you sadly belong to fall in this category. You will validate yourself all day by pay, by talking about undergraduate courses, by Federal Government pay, but will never find rest until you quit digging in the hole in which you've found yourself.

The remaining 5% who chose to do Dentistry out of free will and as their first and only choice enjoy the profession, savor its benefits, and remind themselves that while Medics toil the whole night, they can sleep the most part of the night, and attend to their patients on non emergency basis. You don't belong here at all and deep in your heart you know it. After you got booted out of your initial dream, you have sworn to fight on, to ask for a different group for Dental student while still remaining intoxicated, deluded, and manically obsessed and somewhat somatizing to the grossly erroneous, flawed and faulty belief that you still studied Medicine and Surgery whilst carrying a certificate that reads Bachelors of Dental Surgery, and a license which will not have Medical Practitioner written on it.

It will take a while, even awhile to debride this cancerous obsession from your grey matter but we won't allow your delusion rub off on others.

Cheers

Dude, some of these things you're saying sef...nah you know o.

1. Dental Surgeons also attend to emergencies too. You can begin another argument for all I care.

2. Your somewhat skewed assumption which borders on jest that most of the time, those who now are studying Dental Surgery failed to get Medicine and Surgery is simply hilarious. Your silly presumption doesn't even qualify as an hypothesis.

Have you heard of "Leget" at the University of Ibadan?

I guess you haven't seen Dental Surgeons having Distinctions in Medicine.

I had 297 in the UTME and 320 at the ABU Post UTME, beating lots of those who applied for Medicine. And I chose Dental Surgery without blinking.

Apparently, yours is a futile and facetious effort to show off your inferiority complex using subtle nuances and sly innuendos.

3. That you pass yourself off as a Dr. is just plain amusing. I followed a certain thread where you told all manner of lies riddled with embellishments. You ought to be ashamed of yourself given your infamous propensity to peddle lies.

4. Let's assume Opthalmology/Dermatology was structured the same way Dental Surgery is and that the Opthalmologists/Dermatologists branch off at 500L. You and your cohorts would come to this same bizarre conclusion that neither of the duo is qualified to refer to themselves as Doctors because they studied just the eyes/skin for 6 years.

By the way, that optometrist commenting is clearly confused.

5. That the Medicine and Surgery that Dental Surgeons study is inferior or rudimentary to what MB;BS holders study simply passes you off as an unintelligent bare-faced liar.

PS: Mikolion87, can you kindly stop replying this dude.

sgtponzihater1:


You don't use everything you learn in Medicine or any course for that matter. Most things in Medicine only aims to stretch your mind for the worst, and train your heart to accept that you know not all and matured enough to accept to your patients that you won't guess your way in the course of helping them, and that their safety is your priority. If I show you metaplasia of squamous cells on a microscope you certainly will not know it, or transitional cells of the GU tract you'll be lost, but you did histology, and you haven't committed any crime by not knowing it. Half of biochemistry and most of chemical pathology, and animal biology will be useless for years into your practice. Even as a older Doctor I know my limits and if you bring some cases to me, I simply say I don't have full information about it, but I can tell you how, were and when to seek help. I also keep most of the red flags close to mind. That's what stands us out, and what make us true Medical doctors and you a Dentist who dances about claiming to be trained in everything and knowing everything. Why you'll rush to MDEx to try and give a skewed account of yourself.

I need not glory in Medicine, Surgery, Paediatrics, OnG or even the fact that I have a certificate of full registration as a Medical Doctor so that even the Mentally impaired can see and know that I am a Medical Doctor, while you will have a Certificate of Full Registration as a Dental Practitioner and you will struggle, fight and cry all your life trying to convince visually unimpaired people that the Dental Surgeon that they clearly see on your Certificate and on the MDCN register is actually Medicine and Surgery and that those that placed your name on the Dental register are ill informed, yet nobody is blind, yet those who placed your name there and inducted you as a Dentist were there before you, and its only through surrender, humility, and clarity of purpose that you can ever walk in their shoes and not set yourself off to a collision course. Some may nod their heads and smile but others as smart as me will scold your absurd, mundane, crass, informed and ridiculous stream of untaught and grandeus thought.

The only solution is to stop trying and face the music, face what you have on paper and be grateful for what you have. You cannot have it all but holding what you have in your hands in a defective form is the biggest sin in the Universe, the same sin that made the formerly exalted angel of light, who held his position in a defective form equating his knowledge and glory with that of the most high because he knew and did almost everything with the MOST High, thrown off the radar of light to become a wandering star, milked of all his glory and splendour and set on a collision course that will resound till eternity. Don't make the same mistake even in your little but self exalted corner, take what you have on your Certificate, give God all the glory for it, remove yourself from the achievement, and let God make it gold.

When I first became a Doctor my Mum would get angry when I introduce my self with my first name alone, she wonder at the rationale, but I knew these things are fickle, and can fizzle in a flash. Don't rise and boast in any way. Peace

BW

Mr man, Dentists do a lot of histopathology (oral pathology) of Maxillofacial diseases and tumors (ameloblastoma, squamous cell carcinoma, fibrous dysplasia, ossifying fibromas, pleomorphic adenomas etc) deeply which physicians know little or nothing about but do not have to announce to the public all they do.

No doctor practices everything he studied. But the preliminary training in several specialties is necessary so we can treat humans as a whole no matter the specialty one ends in. It does not then mean they're not Doctors. Every training is however very relevant, if not there will be no need to undertake them.

I do not need to go into all the other oral medicine diseases we studied which other doctors do not have an in depth knowledge of, does it then stop them from being doctors? No. But all category of Doctors have their areas of strength when it comes to combating diseases. Being a jack of all trades but master of none is never advocated in the present day practice of Medicine.

I don't really know the bone of contention Mr hater, I remember you saying if you could, you can study any medical course of your choice just a few months ago (on another thread), here you are claiming to be a colleague since a decade ago. That you read up a few medical terminology online does not now make you a doctor.

I want to believe you're not dumb enough to understand my post. Read it again, or go back to reread the curriculum of Dentistry which I also posted here. All I stated in my post is in consonance with our curriculum. Even the "Medicine and surgery" I wrote had "4th BDS" in bracket, it's either you're too dumb to comprehend the post or you're just too adamant to accept the rigorous nature of Dentistry. No one has the right to dictate to me never to mention the courses I wrote. It's MY CHOICE to make. If you don't like it, you may kindly hug a transformer.

All you do is to derail any thread that has Dentistry on it. I still believe you're pained for whatever reason. But that path you're plying will only frustrate you the more.

Keep hating (as your name implies).. Who knows what else you'll come up with. I suggest you channel the strength and vigor with which you attack dentists to useful endeavor.

Daalu

horpeyemmi66:

Dude, some of these things you're saying sef...nah you know o.

1. Dental Surgeons also attend to emergencies too. You can begin another argument for all I care.

2. Your somewhat skewed assumption which borders on jest that most of the time, those who now are studying Dental Surgery failed to get Medicine and Surgery is simply hilarious. Your silly presumption doesn't even qualify as an hypothesis.

Have you heard of "Leget" at the University of Ibadan?

I guess you haven't seen Dental Surgeons having Distinctions in Medicine.

I had 297 in the UTME and 320 at the ABU Post UTME, beating lots of those who applied for Medicine. And I chose Dental Surgery without blinking.

Apparently, yours is a futile and facetious effort to show off your inferiority complex using subtle nuances and sly innuendos.

3. That you pass yourself off as a Dr. is just plain amusing. I followed a certain thread where you told all manner of lies riddled with embellishments. Well, let me just stop there.

4. Let's assume Opthalmology/Dermatology was structured the same way Dental Surgery is and that the Opthalmologists/Dermatologists branch off at 500L. You and your cohorts would come to this same bizarre conclusion that neither of the duo is qualified to refer to themselves as Doctors because they studied just the eyes/skin for 6 years.

By the way, that optometrist commenting is clearly confused.

5. That the Medicine and Surgery that Dental Surgeons study is inferior or rudimentary to what Dental Surgeons study simply passes you off as an unintelligent bare-faced liar.

PS: Mikolion87, can you kindly stop replying this dude.

All your talk doesn't change the fact that you are in the Dental register and not the Medical register. It also doesn't mean that your license doesn't state medical Practitioner and you are trying to force on people what they will never agree to. NHS is the largest employer of Medical Labour and have said Dentist by their training are Doctors must not deceive the public that they are Medical Doctors.

Dentistry is an amiable field with its different specialties, with OMS bring them closer to Medicine. And Medicine is a different course entirely with its different specialties. This is the information the public need, and this will foster patient safety. ENT, Ophthalmology etc that you mentioned are all specialties under medicine and Surgery. Specificalists have left Nigeria to different countries, and because of the rigors of going into their index specialty decide to take Medical licensing exams and enter into less competitive specialties, because their primary qualification permits them to do so.

If a Medical Doctor decides to do paediatric Dentistry, he has to return to get a primary qualification in Dentistry, and with all the so called "Medicine and Surgery" you are emphasizing, if a Dentist decides he wants to be a Cardiologist, He has to return back to Medical school to get MBBS as his primary qualification. This shows that the Medicine or Surgery you did is not enough to move you up the specialty ladder. You ignore OnG and Paediatrics altogether which is another gruelling 16-18months of didactic medical Education mixed with bedside tutelage so as to push ur highly distorted, skewed and untaught propaganda.

When you go outside. UK for example, you can't even write Plab which qualifies you to be in their Medical register, except you go back to MBBS. You instead write a different exams, called ORE (I can educate you for free on this), and are regulated by a different body, GDC, and placed on a Dental register. The same body have warned Dental Doctors that they shouldn't deceive the public that they are Medical Doctors, but this is exactly what this thread seems to push, lies.

I have added links to most of my other write ups, so the simple and uninformed don't fall into the banana pill that you have set ahead of them.

I clearly stated that many Dentist, more than 80% who took pre degree with us wanted to study Medicine and Surgery, and got thrown into Dentistry, and they then try to validate their being in Dentistry and give their self a very false and distorted idea that they are studying an upgraded Medicine and Surgeries and are specialists. Another 10% are afraid of the rigors of getting into Medicine, and thus rather pick a less demanding course, they behave like the former, I arguably think you stand in this category. The remaining, chose it out of free and Enjoy the Course, accept it as a different, closely related but Unique field from Medicine and Surgery.

I have life mentors who are great Dentists and have crafted me into becoming, and I wonder if they'll ever pass their humility, work ethic, dedication to their profession to a younger degeneration still battling with professional identity.


Addendum: The distinction in Medicine must be clearly stated that it's a Distinction in Medicine among their Dental Counterparts. When BGS in Medicine is given, its given to MBBS. Then Dentistry induction starts afterwards. At the End of the Induction two people give a speech. The best in Medicine and surgery (Medical Doctor), and the best in Dentistry (Dentist/Dental Surgeon). There is no overall best in Medicine and Dentistry, because they are two different courses. I say this to educate the young generation who may be hoodwinked to believing that Medicine and Dentistry are comparable alternatives, they are not. If you want to attend to addison's disease, graves disease, MIs, arrhythmias, syncope, etc go for MBBS, and if you are obsessed about Dentitions, and pulling off bad tooths, and relieving people of tooth pain, or taking care of clefts and oral abnormalities, go for Dentistry, but don't let a low esteemed, confused bunch deceive you into going the wrong path.

Peace

sgtponzihater1:


All your talk doesn't change the fact that you are in the Dental register and not the Medical register. It also doesn't mean that your license doesn't state medical Practitioner and you are trying to force on people what they will never agree to. NHS is the largest employer of Medical Labour and have said Dentist by their training are Doctors must not deceive the public that they are Medical Doctors.

Dentistry is an amiable field with its different specialties, with OMS bring them closer to Medicine. And Medicine is a different course entirely with its different specialties. This is the information the public need, and this will foster patient safety. ENT, Ophthalmology etc that you mentioned are all specialties under medicine and Surgery. Specificalists have left Nigeria to different countries, and because of the rigors of going into their index specialty decide to take Medical licensing exams and enter into less competitive specialties, because their primary qualification permits them to do so.

If a Medical Doctor decides to you paediatric Dentistry, he has to return to get a primary qualification in Dentistry, and with all the so called "Medicine and Surgery" you are emphasizing, if a Dentist decides he wants to be a Cardiologist, He has to return back to Medical school to get MBBS as his primary qualification. This shows that the Medicine or Surgery you did is not enough to move you up the specialty ladder. You ignore OnG and Paediatrics altogether which is another gruelling 16-18months of didactic medical Education mixed with bedside tutelage so as to push ur highly distorted, skewed and untaught propaganda.

When you go outside. UK for example, you can't even write Plab which qualifies you to be in their Medical register, except you go back to MBBS. You instead write a different exams, called ORE (I can educate you for free on this), and are regulated by a different body, GDC, and placed on a Dental register. The same body have warned Dental Doctors that they shouldn't deceive the public that they are Medical Doctors, but this is exactly what this thread seems to push, lies.

I have added links to most of my other write ups, so the simple and uninformed don't fall into the banana pill that you have set ahead of them.

I clearly stated that many Dentist, more than 80% who took pre degree with us wanted to study Medicine and Surgery, and got thrown into Dentistry, and they then try to validate their being in Dentistry and give their self a very false and distorted idea that they are studying an upgraded Medicine and Surgeries and are specialists. Another 10% are afraid of the rigors of getting into Medicine, and thus rather pick a less demanding course, the behave like the former, I arguably think you stand in this category. The remaining, chose it out of free and Enjoy the Course, accept it a different, related with Unique field from Medicine and Surgery.

I have life mentors who are great Dentists and have crafted me into becoming, and I wonder if they'll ever pass their humility, work ethic, dedication to their profession to a younger degeneration still battling with professional identity.

Alaye, whatever rocks your boat. I don't have that kind of time going back and forth.

horpeyemmi66:

Alaye, whatever rocks your boat. I don't have that kind of time going back and forth.

Better this time. Cheers

sgtponzihater1:


All your talk doesn't change the fact that you are in the Dental register and not the Medical register. It also doesn't mean that your license doesn't state medical Practitioner and you are trying to force on people what they will never agree to. NHS is the largest employer of Medical Labour and have said Dentist by their training are Doctors must not deceive the public that they are Medical Doctors.

Dentistry is an amiable field with its different specialties, with OMS bring them closer to Medicine. And Medicine is a different course entirely with its different specialties. This is the information the public need, and this will foster patient safety. ENT, Ophthalmology etc that you mentioned are all specialties under medicine and Surgery. Specificalists have left Nigeria to different countries, and because of the rigors of going into their index specialty decide to take Medical licensing exams and enter into less competitive specialties, because their primary qualification permits them to do so.

If a Medical Doctor decides to do paediatric Dentistry, he has to return to get a primary qualification in Dentistry, and with all the so called "Medicine and Surgery" you are emphasizing, if a Dentist decides he wants to be a Cardiologist, He has to return back to Medical school to get MBBS as his primary qualification. This shows that the Medicine or Surgery you did is not enough to move you up the specialty ladder. You ignore OnG and Paediatrics altogether which is another gruelling 16-18months of didactic medical Education mixed with bedside tutelage so as to push ur highly distorted, skewed and untaught propaganda.

When you go outside. UK for example, you can't even write Plab which qualifies you to be in their Medical register, except you go back to MBBS. You instead write a different exams, called ORE (I can educate you for free on this), and are regulated by a different body, GDC, and placed on a Dental register. The same body have warned Dental Doctors that they shouldn't deceive the public that they are Medical Doctors, but this is exactly what this thread seems to push, lies.

I have added links to most of my other write ups, so the simple and uninformed don't fall into the banana pill that you have set ahead of them.

I clearly stated that many Dentist, more than 80% who took pre degree with us wanted to study Medicine and Surgery, and got thrown into Dentistry, and they then try to validate their being in Dentistry and give their self a very false and distorted idea that they are studying an upgraded Medicine and Surgeries and are specialists. Another 10% are afraid of the rigors of getting into Medicine, and thus rather pick a less demanding course, they behave like the former, I arguably think you stand in this category. The remaining, chose it out of free and Enjoy the Course, accept it as a different, closely related but Unique field from Medicine and Surgery.

I have life mentors who are great Dentists and have crafted me into becoming, and I wonder if they'll ever pass their humility, work ethic, dedication to their profession to a younger degeneration still battling with professional identity.


Addendum: The distinction in Medicine must be clearly stated that it's a Distinction in Medicine among their Dental Counterparts. When BGS in Medicine is given, its given to MBBS. Then Dentistry induction starts afterwards. At the End of the Induction two people give a speech. The best in Medicine and surgery (Medical Doctor), and the best in Dentistry (Dentist/Dental Surgeon). There is no overall best in Medicine and Dentistry, because they are two different courses. I say this to educate the young generation who may be hoodwinked to believing that Medicine and Dentistry are comparable alternatives, they are not. If you want to attend to addison's disease, graves disease, MIs, arrhythmias, syncope, etc go for MBBS, and if you are obsessed about Dentitions, and pulling off bad tooths, and relieving people of tooth pain, or taking care of clefts and oral abnormalities, go for Dentistry, but don't let a low esteemed, confused bunch deceive you into going the wrong path.

Peace

My friend, I think I have already adequately enlightened you enough about why Dentistry is separate from other specialties of Medicine (if you took time to read the history of surgery perhaps you'll have an idea). In the case of Dentistry, it portrays Independence and Growth. Perhaps a time might come when it would even have its own ministry in government (Ministry of Oral Health) .. It's only the Mature ones that will understand that being independent means improvement and not inferiority. I take it that you're not mature yet. I do not intend to repeat myself.

My post never mentioned that I graduated with MBBS degree but as a Doctor/dental surgeon (of which you know a Dentist is a Doctor), and I only elucidated the courses, with much emphasis on the 4th bds- Medicine and surgery, which the post was mainly about. This is not that difficult to comprehend.

So only students of Medicine should mention that they studied medicine or that they are doctors, whereas dental students who are also trained in Medicine and are also doctors have no right to do same.. That only portray insecurity and feeling threatened. Only an egoistic demented fellow who thinks other professions are not relevant would do so. What gives anyone the right to do that? Funny enough, Physicians and Dental surgeons at our level have a different mentality and know they are one. Unless one is saying the mouth is not part of the body or not as relevant as the other parts.

Review again the curriculum of dentistry, read it slowly, internalize it and then give it whatever interpretation you choose. This post is not intended to argue about the complexity of the course, but to encourage people going through tough times.

Feel free to believe whatever about Dentists, as long as it dries your tears.. Please go and rest already. Daalu.

Motivation for those who want to study Medicine


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I am very very sure this sgtponzihater is not a Doctor. He has being jumping from one thread to another like a scavenger looking for meat to chop.. Plzzz dont reply him again..

He is LIAR.
Infact he is the real LIE, he will keep changing the topic. I dont know when you turn to a Doctor.
Unless you want to tell me that your own MBBS is a 3month course

I repeat he is not a Doctor ooo and he can never be a doctor.. Read his post from other thread, you will confirm wat am saying...

I repeat he is not a doctor, he is just looking for attention he know nothing about medical school. He think Google is everything, and still he keep confusing himself more.

sgtponzihater1:
Motivation for those who want to study Medicine


https://www.nairaland.com/5504060/sale-murtala-dandashire-2019-abu

When did you graduate from medical school? What did you know about medical school, someone keep correcting you on wat u dont know and yet your ignorance keep blindfolding you.

You dont know and you are not ready to learn, keep lieing and keep confusing yourself...QUAKE.

Even a professional medical doctor will not argue like this .