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Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by tiwiex(m): 8:02am On Nov 12, 2019 |
stevebond007: Totally agree. I think we equated literacy to not speaking or learning our culture in general. I am happy this is happening. Surprisingly, this is most common in Nigeria. Many other African countries still hold on to their culture tight. Once we can afford Apple lap top here, we start speaking plenty oyinbo and start feeling "educated" . Good message from the Oscars. They have enough English speaking movies. I don't see why an international category should also be in English. Na we go dey shout colonization. Now, they are helping us realize we have roots, we don dey shout racism. 6 Likes |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by YorubaPrince: 8:05am On Nov 12, 2019 |
It's kinda sad to see this. The movie is indeed a great one. I absolutely love it... it was very genuine and original... way better than that Genevieve's movie, Lionheart. I watched it several times. My best part was when the young teenage chic was narrating her first time experience with her client and also when they were in the train to Germany trying to hide from immigration officials. That was very touching indeed as diasporans could relate to it. Overall... it's a good watch! |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by dermmy(m): 8:05am On Nov 12, 2019 |
Duggedised12: Exactly...Even in yoruba movies o. You go dey see gateman wey b stark illiterate him go dey blast english. Babalawo/herbalist go dey use phonetics. No b small tin o. Nollywood is a big joke 1 Like |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by BluntBoy(m): 8:06am On Nov 12, 2019 |
The most annoying part is not even the English, but the annoying American accent that everyone has, even the ones in the village in precolonial era. You will see Genevieve Nnaji acting as a villager who has never been to a classroom or seen a vehicle speaking English with the accent of Barak Obama. 1 Like |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by Nobody: 8:08am On Nov 12, 2019 |
Smithkafors:I've seen the trailer, brief me summarily about it please. |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by Nobody: 8:08am On Nov 12, 2019 |
ruffbamreal:my point is that the criteria is a very foolish one to begin with. Why is Language the only indicator of culture to them? So something is not Nigerian enough becaus it is spoken in English? Doesn’t make any sense. We have way too many native languages spoken in Nigeria to settle on any one. It’s not like we have one major national native language. That’s why we can’t submit a movie with just Yoruba or Hausa spoken as it will obviously cause complaints from other tribes. English is the only language we all have in common in Nigeria. |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by DoktaRen(m): 8:09am On Nov 12, 2019 |
naptu2: See, that movie is an Australian movie, but with Nigerian contents. Imagine where dey serve you fufu with chopsticks, think am.? And also note that a group of Naija hustlers outside nigeria live as if they are still in Nigeria but at a different place. So, even their language of communication will still be the same within them. |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by Nobody: 8:09am On Nov 12, 2019 |
slyfoxxjoe: SA has 12 official languages English Tswana Pedi Afrikaans Zulu Xhosa Venda Ndebele Swati Sotho Tsonga Sign language SA is inclusive. If you we have won before we know the criteria Read the criteria of the Oscars first before emotions get better of you, the film should not have submitted in the first place |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by fredoooooo: 8:13am On Nov 12, 2019 |
We dey speak Enngrish pass English self ... |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by Nobody: 8:14am On Nov 12, 2019 |
slyfoxxjoe: I think Nigeria should move away from tribalism, it's dragging it behind. English is not native to Nigeria. 2 Likes |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by Viicfuntop(f): 8:16am On Nov 12, 2019 |
JOy was a very good movie. That one was worthy of an oscar |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by gcof(m): 8:16am On Nov 12, 2019 |
Nuelblakes:with their picture quality?? |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by Nobody: 8:17am On Nov 12, 2019 |
Austine1212:so which one of our over 500 native languages do you suggest we submit our entry in? Tell me. And afterwards you do, try to reason if submitting an entry in that language won’t cause any problems. |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by Ajibade123(m): 8:20am On Nov 12, 2019 |
king of boys nko... that one nko |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by naptu2: 8:20am On Nov 12, 2019 |
majamajic: Exactly! |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by Bukden16(m): 8:21am On Nov 12, 2019 |
My own motion picture will definitely do make it to finale. 2 Likes
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Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by Duggedised12(f): 8:23am On Nov 12, 2019 |
dermmy:exactly. These producers need to up their game. imagine who goes to the market to be speaking English with market woman? |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by meobizy(f): 8:24am On Nov 12, 2019 |
Well at least that's more exposure for the movie. I know I'll check it on Netflix. |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by Nobody: 8:25am On Nov 12, 2019 |
slyfoxxjoe: Submit any of the top 3 languages South Africa has more native languages, and but made 12 major ones official as the other ones are sub branches of the official ones. Tsotsi the movie that won the Oscar had over 5 native languages spoken including English. 1 Like |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by naptu2: 8:27am On Nov 12, 2019 |
slyfoxxjoe: I'm going to try and summarise what I've been saying for more than 20 years. I do not consider the Academy Awards (Oscars) and the Grammy Awards to be international awards. They are American national awards. The thing is that American culture is the dominant culture across the world, so people mistake them for international awards. The people who vote for these awards are members of American academies. They do not want any movie that can in any way compete with American movies in the Best Foreign Language category. That's why the criteria are that: 1) The movie must be in a language that is foreign to Americans. 2) Most of the crew of the film (the director, producer, editor, etc) must be foreigners (they must not be Americans) And 3) The funding for the movie must primarily be from foreign sources. |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by naptu2: 8:29am On Nov 12, 2019 |
DoktaRen: How does this relate to my post? |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by Nobody: 8:32am On Nov 12, 2019 |
They should submit mokalik naa |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by femi4: 8:32am On Nov 12, 2019 |
Neddstark:The movie is for Nigerians not Oscar. If you really want your movie to cut across Nigeria, you need to infuse English and broken English. That rule will only make sense in a Country that's not multilingual |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by lexy2014: 8:33am On Nov 12, 2019 |
maynation: Simple. Our desperation to sound and appear like d whites has finally backfired. These films were an opportunity to project our identity, an opportunity lost |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by airminem(f): 8:33am On Nov 12, 2019 |
Obviously the international countries respects Africa culture and believes in their history. Africa first !! |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by lexy2014: 8:34am On Nov 12, 2019 |
DoktaRen: Austrian not Australian |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by nograv: 8:36am On Nov 12, 2019 |
maynation: No it isn’t, because films submitted by other African nations which are mainly in French or Portuguese were accepted. While I do not appreciate a film on sex workers being our submission, this says more about American ignorance who don’t deem a film truly international if the main language is English... stupidity.. So even though English is widely used across Nigeria, a legacy of colonialism by the way, Americans think that means a film isn’t international. Last time I checked Lagosians weren’t English.... |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by BluntBoy(m): 8:36am On Nov 12, 2019 |
slyfoxxjoe: English is allowed, but the indigenous language should be used far more. So the Oscar is not against English dialogue in foreign movies. It is just against using too much English. The criteria is fair. |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by handsomebanana(m): 8:37am On Nov 12, 2019 |
Neddstark: You are among the Nigerians who lack the ability to read. If you could, you would know that the movie was not made, neither was it submitted by a Nigerian. You see Nigeria there so you think, "what a wonderful way for me to show my superiority over my fellow country mates ", resulting in making a conplete fool out of yourself. Stupid asswipe, you and all the 26 rètards who liked your comment |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by stevebond007(m): 8:37am On Nov 12, 2019 |
tiwiex: Abi na. I agree jare, tell them o Why is our music making waves? Its because its original. It infuses our tune and language Na we con dey recolonize... |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by edoairways: 8:39am On Nov 12, 2019 |
popsy2:We need OSCAR AMAA is OK. |
Re: 'Joy' Rejected By Oscars Because Of Too Much English by toprealman: 8:41am On Nov 12, 2019 |
popsy2:You keep advertising but never respond to enquiry. How much does it cost to register an NGO? 1 Like |
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