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Can Atheists Prove God Does Not Exist? / "I Paid My Tithes At 4square, I Had Accident, Lost My Job, Pastor Abandoned Me" / Why Would A Loving GOD Not Kill Satan From The Beginning And Let Live In Peace? (2) (3) (4)
|Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by GivingUp: 10:18am On Nov 19|
Have been a follower of Christ right from when I knew the different between A and B. I became dedicated to him right from childhood, participating in church activities, alot, Right from Childhood. I pray to him, and I do everything necessary to please God, but now I need God more, he seems mute and quite, I pray to him about it, meditate and yet No positive result. Am really broke now, I worked for some company's and Hotels but when its time to pay, they cook up stories. I prayed about it, yet no results. I dont even have money to feed, yet they made me believe God is watching me with all the hardship.
Now, am confused isn't that God doesn't exist or he abandoned me, I dont get it
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by Omonken: 10:31am On Nov 19|
Check your ways my dear.
"I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging bread". (Ps. 37:25)
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by GivingUp: 10:35am On Nov 19|
Omonken:Hmmm you still dont understand, but I appreciate your comment.
I believe you dont understand my situation
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by peggywebbs(f): 10:50am On Nov 19|
I don't think God has anything to do with this. Yes he loves you and he hasn't abandoned you but you shouldn't live life expecting magic.
First, there are many employers who refuse to pay employees, they can be reported to authorities. Before you go for a job do your own homework. Find out the history of the company, its easy to know when companies don't pay their staff. They usually keep recruiting all the time because people leave. During my early days of job hunting ,when I'm going for an interview, I quickly look for someone to ask, even if it is the next office to where I'm interviewing or the security people or even the receptionist, someone will definitely hint you about the place. You can even search nairaland and ask you will hear from people who have experience with the place.
Getting a job is not about jumping at any offer you see even if it is attractive, find out. God won't come to earth to perform miracles. He will bless you when you make an effort.
If jobs are not working, try a trade, or a craft or handy work. Opportunities don't come to those who sit down and wait. It comes to those who are proactive and trying different ways to make things work.
If you fall down, you stand up again, if you keep falling, keep picking yourself up. You will realize that the strength to keep trying is not your own but God. Sometimes he teaches us things and most times we are not paying attention.
In that difficult situation, if you tell yourself you can make it, you will but if you give up on yourself, how then can you believe God is looking out for you.
Have a wonderful week. I'm sure you will figure something out to change things for yourself and with God being your helper
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by Ihedinobi3: 10:56am On Nov 19|
Yet man is born unto trouble,
as the sparks fly upward.
Job 5:7 KJV
That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ...
1 Peter 1:7 KJV
These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.
John 16:33 KJV
The above explain that, first, this world is a place of pain for all human beings, and second, this world is a particularly difficult place for believers for the test of their faith.
There have been many for a long time now who have been teaching that being a believer in Jesus Christ means that you should never suffer in this life, or that if you do suffer, it should be only for a little while in order for you to come into a long stretch of enjoyment. None of these things is a biblical teaching.
The Bible clearly teaches that we are in a war. Every human being is. Satan is interested in preventing as many human beings as possible from believing in Jesus Christ, and this world is in his grasp for now (1 John 5:19), so he does not bother unbelievers as much as he does believers. And the Lord God leaves rebels alone for now if they persist in their rebellion. It is only in some severe cases that He punishes them (1 Timothy 5:24), otherwise, it is only believers that the Lord is concerned with while they still live here on Earth (Hebrews 12:4-13; Psalm 73).
So, Satan is constantly looking to make life hard for believers to discourage them from continuing to believe, and the Lord tests us so that our faith can be shown to either be genuine and long-lasting or be ephemeral. Only those who retain their faith in the Lord until the end of their lives or until the Lord returns if they live until then are saved (Matthew 24:13).
Please be encouraged. Don't lose heart because of the troubles that you face, because that is a normal part of the believer's life. It is why we are here: to make a firm choice about the Lord, whether we will trust Him and serve His Will no matter what or whether we will reject His Authority for whatever reason we prefer.
Also, it is good to act toward human beings with some sense of caution. If people don't pay you after working, perhaps you should not work for them anymore, or else ask them for some early advance that will reduce the pain of not getting paid at all.
I'll say a prayer for you here.
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|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by GivingUp: 10:59am On Nov 19|
peggywebbs:What I mean by I work for hotels and company's is that, I render I.T Service to them, not that I work with them as a staff. Am an I.T Engineer
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by Ihedinobi3: 11:01am On Nov 19|
GivingUp:What kind of IT work do you do? What city do you live in?
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by GivingUp: 11:08am On Nov 19|
Ihedinobi3:Laptop / Computer Repairs and Maintenance
Printer Repairs and Maintenance
CCTV Surveillance Installations
LAN / WAN Networking
Fingerprint / Access Control Management system
And any other I.T related services
Just name the I.T service, am available
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by jesusjnr(m): 11:09am On Nov 19|
Bro don't give up oh for only yesterday God proved to me again on two separate occasions that He doesn't just exists but lives in me.
More to come.
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by jesusjnr(m): 11:12am On Nov 19|
Omonken:David begged for bread, so did that mean he was forsaken, or that he was not the seed the righteous?
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by GivingUp: 11:12am On Nov 19|
jesusjnr:I have prayed so hard and hope for same miracle, but sincerely am getting tired. Funny enough, I prayed that, all the good deeds have done in life, God should just pick one out of it and give me the reward. I just hope you understand me
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by Ihedinobi3: 11:17am On Nov 19|
GivingUp:Lagos is highly competitive, but it is not an impossible situation.
It may be best if we discussed in private. I'm a management consultant, and I may be able to help you figure out some way of getting paid when you work, but I don't offer any guarantees in this regard. If you are interested, you could email me at firstname.lastname@example.org.
Still, I would refer you to my first comment. I'm not sure that you saw it, but that is really the more important help that I can give you.
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by GivingUp: 11:19am On Nov 19|
Ihedinobi3:Thanks so much, I will mail you. I will also check your previous comment
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by GivingUp: 11:21am On Nov 19|
Ihedinobi3:oh! Thanks God bless you
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by ThothHermes: 11:29am On Nov 19|
Omonken:The writer of these words said he has not seen.
But others have seen. That David did not see does not mean they don't exist.
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by ThothHermes: 11:32am On Nov 19|
GivingUp:I understand your situation. Very much.
And I'll tell you now, I am starting to think that God is not interested in the affairs of men.
The wicked prosper as much as the godly.
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by GivingUp: 11:36am On Nov 19|
ThothHermes:I dont understand, what you mean
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by jesusjnr(m): 12:21pm On Nov 19|
GivingUp:Bro i understand how frustrating it could be, but trust me bro, you may have not even started praying when it comes to some of us.
As you may have seen the example I gave above of David begging for bread to show that delay didn't mean denial or that he was forsaken, for this was someone who was already annointed king of Israel but to officially sit on the throne, he had to beg, feign madness, look for refuge in the camp of his enemies, and there was even a time when his own people almost stoned him out of frustration.
But in spite of how frustrating it was for him, it was said that David encouraged himself in the Lord, because he knew that his sufferings didn't mean that he was abandoned or forsaken by God or that God didn't exist, but that his time had not yet come.
And you know what later happened in spite of all those things he faced, today we are calling Jesus the son of David.
I have experienced many frustrations myself, but only yesterday I was able to get back some important documents I had misplaced in a public place and had been praying to God for several months to help me get back, and that happened in the morning.
Then in the afternoon I met with a teenage school girl in a public place who asked to talk to me about God and I thought it was just normal preaching. But by the time she was through, i discovered that she was actually sent by God for she was saying things about me despite that it was the first time we were meeting. And when I asked her concerning this she accepted that God was the one that sent her but that she was initially relunctant.
I was really encouraged because she wouldn't be more than sixteen years old, but what she told me, only God could have told her that about me and because it had to do with my walk with Him and His plans for me that i should not be discouraged.
So bro don't give up, just keep praying and doing what's right in God's sight, and He would answer you in due time, for delay is not denial.
Thanks and God bless.
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by GivingUp: 12:32pm On Nov 19|
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by kumulus(m): 2:11pm On Nov 19|
There's no good deed man is able to perform brother, even Jesus said he does nothing of his own EXCEPT that which the Father works through him.
"If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and return to......"
God is NEVER silent! (...."be still and know that I Am God"....he says)
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by antoniafire: 3:52pm On Nov 19|
Been there. God loves you. Stay faithful. And check your ways
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by Blabbermouth: 7:17pm On Nov 19|
If you don't like the result, check your routine.
If I narrate to you my ordeals, you would have turned an atheist for my sake. I am saying this to you that you might not turn blind and join the "there is no G-d crew".
I tell you, even as gravity is a constant and physical laws were what they were since the beginning. Even so, there are principles, causes and effect, and ordinances laid down since time that guides the neccessary things of life on earth which you seek [Money, health, long life and all] and for the infinite love of G-d, it doesn't matter whether you pray to him or not, if you apply this causes, you will see the right effect . His ways of doing things are far higher than ours, and His thoughts far higher than ours; Again, if you are not satisfied with your result, check your routine. DON'T give up on God, because He won't give up on you... He's Able...
By the way, check out the book of proverbs; if thine eyes can see, you will find your solution.
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by FESTAC101: 8:03pm On Nov 19|
@OP, I understand quite well what u r passing through but know the Lord will never abandon nor forsake His own. Please try and listen to Apostle Joshua Selmans teachings on --The Weapons of our warfare parts 1-3 and Mystery of Deliverance parts 1-4. They have really been of a great help to me. You know satan is against anything Christ,so satan is out to frustrate anyone genuinely following God,encourage yourself in the Lord. i pray the Holy Spirit helps your understanding as you listen and pray along,remain blessed.
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by paxonel(m): 9:03pm On Nov 19|
Why are you then believing God for physical things like money rather than believing him for spiritual things, are you not trying to reap from where you didn't sow like that?
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by GivingUp: 8:43am On Nov 20|
Hmmm, I appreciate all your comments. The devil � almost overcome me, thanks to God's Mercies.
I believe God have been so faithful, God's not Dead nor Abandoned us.
May God's Blessing be upon us all, and his Strength dwell among us all (AMEN).
Thanks to you all for strengthening me.
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by Ihedinobi3: 9:42am On Nov 20|
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by MuttleyLaff: 12:55pm On Nov 20|
ThothHermes:Hey Chief, long time, no hear, no see. How bodi and matters generally, hmm?
Nwanne, how can you say, you're starting to think that God isn't interested in the affairs of men, erhn? I am quite sure, you made that comment because you forgot that God interestingly is allowing the tares or weed to grow and flourish side by side and along with the wheats until when the harvest is due and where the tares will be separated from the wheat, be packed up all together to be destroyed, by setting alight in a bon fire.
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by ThothHermes: 1:20pm On Nov 20|
MuttleyLaff:Exactly my point. He's uninterested. At least not currently.
So there's no point expecting anything from Him.
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by wizflame(m): 1:44pm On Nov 20|
Oga keep quiet
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by GeneralShepherd(m): 2:50pm On Nov 20|
I am truly sorry for what you are going through and trust me when I say I feel your pain
You have to remember that what the scripture says in James 1 vs 2 & 3
Consider it pure joy, my brothers and sisters,[a] whenever you face trials of many kinds, 3 because you know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance.
Our stewardship to God is not precondition for. Material blessings. Our goal is to seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness.
I really pray that God will meet you at the point of your need.
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by MuttleyLaff: 5:52pm On Nov 20|
ThothHermes:What point? Which point? You made no point, you have no point.
ThothHermes:''"The spirit of God made or fashioned me; and the breath of the Almighty gives me life."
- Job 33:4
''This is what God the LORD says—He who created the heavens and stretched them out,
who spread out the earth and its offspring,
who gives breath to the people on it and life to those who walk in it:"
- Isaiah 42:5
If it is true that God is uninterested, then it means that currently now you should and/or ought to be dead, and thats from God asking for His breath back from you. God is interested in you, which is why you're alive on earth, breathing in the land of the living. If not, then means, you by now should be six feet under, but you aren't yet six feet under, so indicates God's interest in you.
ThothHermes:You know you're lying making that comment or merely just trying hard being ignorant. You know you wish and/or you expect, at the very least, to be alive, as in meaning, be alive and kicking here on obodo earth among and/or along with others on this land of the living
Doubt, is an unfortunate and uncomfortable condition to have ThothHermes. Peele. Ndo.
|Re: Does God Not Exist? OR He Abandoned Me?? by ThothHermes: 9:28pm On Nov 20|
GeneralShepherd:I like to think I have a good memory.
This moniker reminds me of an atheist.
You don repent
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