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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by justwise(m): 9:40pm On Jan 02
EgunMogaji2:


Trust me those countries are not complaining. In fact they create specific visa class for foreign retirees.

Retirees bring in dollars and infuse it into the local economy. And because they didn’t contribute to the social pool as you suggested so they cannot get any government assistance. Retirees pay for everything out of pocket.

Just like in Nigeria, what has Nigeria given me or done for me? I’ve paid out of pocket for everything.

It’s a win win.

Its a lot cheaper to retire in Nigeria, you are not doing it primarily to help Nigerian/Nigerians, just to help yourself and i'm not against that.

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by molybdenum0012: 10:08pm On Jan 02
justwise:


Its a lot cheaper to retire in Nigeria, you are not doing it primarily to help Nigerian/Nigerians, just to help yourself and i'm not against that.



This summarizes it all.
Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by Mancala: 10:28pm On Jan 02
justwise:


Its a lot cheaper to retire in Nigeria, you are not doing it primarily to help Nigerian/Nigerians, just to help yourself and i'm not against that.


Good point. I guess I would call it a win win situation for both sides. Nigeria benefits from the imported capital as "Nigerian expatriates" come home to retire to a relatively less expensive retirement existence. But I believe its more than just the cost factor. From a holistic point of view, it costs less for an American resident to retire in Mexico vs. Nigeria for example when you factor in the cost of providing basic amenities/security for yourself in Nigeria. Coupled with the cost of flying out for healthcare needs as you age. I theorize that Maslow's hierarchy of needs explains part of the attraction to retiring to ones country of origin. The typical expatriate is operating at the upper part of the triangle so is interested in stuff that seems mundane to most who are still at the lower end. I find myself engrossed in stuff that I would never have considered in the past now that I have chop belly full grin

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by EgunMogaji2: 10:34pm On Jan 02
justwise:


Its a lot cheaper to retire in Nigeria, you are not doing it primarily to help Nigerian/Nigerians, just to help yourself and i'm not against that.


Where did I say I was doing anything to help Nigerians? I’m not running a charity. But I’m sure the tens of millions I’ve individually pumped into the economy did not hurt Nigeria.

I came back to my dutiful home. I owe no explanation nor apology to anyone.

It’s much cheaper to retire to certain other countries than Nigeria for me.

You’re young still, so when you get to retirement age then you and I can have that conversation.

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by EgunMogaji2: 10:40pm On Jan 02
Beautyaddy:


lol!...I am sure some and may be not all would benefit or agree with your advice and story.

The day we all start to agree on the same things the World will be so boring and bland. cheesy


It’s not my intention to convince anyone to agree with me.

I put my story out there. If it provides one person out of millions of Nairalanders with entertainment then I’m good.

We all have our own individual courses to chart.

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by EgunMogaji2: 10:53pm On Jan 02
Mancala:


Good point. I guess I would call it a win win situation for both sides. Nigeria benefits from the imported capital as "Nigerian expatriates" come home to retire to a relatively less expensive retirement existence. But I believe its more than just the cost factor. From a holistic point of view, it costs less for an American resident to retire in Mexico vs. Nigeria for example when you factor in the cost of providing basic amenities/security for yourself in Nigeria. Coupled with the cost of flying out for healthcare needs as you age. I theorize that Maslow's hierarchy of needs explains part of the attraction to retiring to ones country of origin. The typical expatriate is operating at the upper part of the triangle so is interested in stuff that seems mundane to most who are still at the lower end. I find myself engrossed in stuff that I would never have considered in the past now that I have chop belly full grin

You’re getting the picture Sir.

I could retire cheaper to Mexico than Nigeria. At least in Mexico I won’t have to sink a borehole, buy multiple generators, rebuild screwed up buildings, bribe policemen and thugs, etc

I could simply drive across the border from Mexico to USA every day if I wanted to. I have Nigerian friends who do exactly that.

The issue I’m starting to feel, and frankly it’s getting tedious, is that people are discounting the joy of being back home.

I was watching a documentary on YouTube about Igbo Ora having the worlds highest twin birth rate. I clicked a link a tab onto Google Map and found out that it was a 2 hour drive away. Guess what I did? Took a shower, hopped into my truck and went there for lunch.

Some weeks back I went to Ogbomosho. And before that I went to Ore.

I love Nigeria and I love being here. End of story cool

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by justwise(m): 10:55pm On Jan 02
EgunMogaji2:


Where did I say I was doing anything to help Nigerians? I’m not running a charity. But I’m sure the tens of millions I’ve individually pumped not the economy did not hurt Nigeria.

I came back to my dutiful home. I owe no explanation nor apology to anyone.

It’s much cheaper to retire to certain other countries than Nigeria for me.

You’re young still, so when you get to retirement age then you and I can have that conversation.

I don't really believe people who starts loving Nigeria only after they might have enjoyed life abroad for years, suddenly Nigeria is a great place, there is nothing abroad.

Reading your posts in this thread and other threads i have issues with the above line of argument from you.

I have no issue with people retiring to any part of the world.

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by EgunMogaji2: 11:04pm On Jan 02
justwise:


I don't really believe people who starts loving Nigeria only after they might have enjoyed life abroad for years, suddenly Nigeria is a great place, there is nothing abroad.

Reading your posts in this thread and other threads i have issues with the above line of argument from you.

I have no issue with people retiring to any part of the world.


I’ve always loved Nigeria. That has never changed. I’m sorry you feel otherwise.

I went to the USA to study legally and wasn’t an economic immigrant.

I was gainfully employed in the beautiful and working Nigeria of the 80’s before deciding to pursue a commercial pilots license in the USA.

After 33 years in the USA there’s nothing there for me. USA is not el dorado for me. I’ve stated it ad nuseum that the world is my oyster. I have several countries in Asia that’s on my bucket list.

I’m not done yet, Nigeria just happens to be where I hang my hat now. Amongst my fellow tribals men.

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by justwise(m): 11:18pm On Jan 02
EgunMogaji2:


I’ve always loved Nigeria. That has never changed. I’m sorry you feel otherwise.

I went to the USA to study legally and wasn’t an economic immigrant.

I was gainfully employed in the beautiful and working Nigeria of the 80’s before deciding to pursue a commercial pilots license in the USA.

After 33 years in the USA there’s nothing there for me. USA is not el dorado for me. I’ve stated it ad nuseum that the world is my oyster. I have several countries in Asia that’s on my bucket list.

I’m not done yet, Nigeria just happens to be where I hang my hat now. Amongst my fellow tribals men.

After 33 years in a country that gave you everything? If you had left the USA a year or two after you arrived there and returned back to Nigeria then i will believe you.

The USA exposed you to those opportunities you have today and the ability to retire to any country of your choice and not Nigeria.

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by Mancala: 11:31pm On Jan 02
EgunMogaji2:


You’re getting the picture Sir.

I could retire cheaper to Mexico than Nigeria. At least in Mexico I won’t have to sink a borehole, but multiple generators, rebuild screwed up buildings, bribe policemen and thugs, etc

I could simply drive across the border from Mexico to USA every day if I wanted to. I have Nigerian friends who do exactly that.

The issue I’m starting to feel, and frankly it’s getting tedious, is that people are discounting the joy of being back home.

I was watching a documentary on YouTube about Igbo Ora having the worlds highest twin birth rate. I clicked a link a tab onto Google Map and found out that it was a 2 hour drive away. Guess what I did? Took a shower, hopped into my truck and went there for lunch.

Some weeks back I went to Ogbomosho. And before that I went to Ore.

I love Nigeria and I love being here. End of story cool

LOL, your mention of Igbo Ora brings back sweet memories. I dated a lady who studied medicine at UCH and did a rotation at the Igbo Ora medical center. Used to go there to visit her way back then. It was quite a rural area and the medical students complained heavily all the time. Would love to visit again when next I'm in that neck of the woods.
Like you, I have become very interested in Nigerian culture, history, trivia and facts. I spent hours at the British museum last summer studying Nigerian artifacts and continue to read up on related facts. As time has elapsed, my diet at home now consists almost entirely of Nigerian food, at least when I eat at home. This is coming from a guy who did not really care for our dishes when I was back home growing up. Strange, but I really miss the constant noise and commotion that exists in Nigeria. Its hard to get used to being in a mall with a thousand people and you can almost hear a pin drop here in the U.S.

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by DisGuy: 12:04am On Jan 03
How's Omi Adio station coming up? Can't wait for the ibadan to Abuja part. Now motivated to retire in Ilorin grin
Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by yemiosinbajo: 12:42am On Jan 03
justwise:


After 33 years in a country that gave you everything? If you had left the USA a year or two after you arrived there and returned back to Nigeria then i will believe you.

The USA exposed you to those opportunities you have today and the ability to retire to any country of your choice and not Nigeria.

If he had done this, you probably would have claimed that he did so because the Nigeria of 33 years ago was better than the Nigeria of today, and would not have done so today. Now, he has done so today, but you still find a way to antagonize.

And, what in the world do you mean by, "a country that gave you EVERYTHING?" What the hell is your definition of Everything? He has been sharing the experience of things he has been doing since he returned to Nigeria - are those part of the everything that the US give him, too?

Everyone has what they love and hate, what they miss or enjoy. I know you all are still in disbelief that someone actually went to the US and came back home totally voluntarily despite being in legal status. It's OK to have any disbelief, but what's the point antagonizing him; something that you, the moderator, would be uncomfortable to see, and probably call "derailing" if the thread had been the usual beauty-of-moving-to-yankee-and-leaving-Nigeria that we always see here?

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by EgunMogaji2: 12:42am On Jan 03
justwise:


After 33 years in a country that gave you everything? If you had left the USA a year or two after you arrived there and returned back to Nigeria then i will believe you.

The USA exposed you to those opportunities you have today and the ability to retire to any country of your choice and not Nigeria.

And I’ll always be grateful for all the opportunities. But she’s not el dorado for me. Period.

I’m sorry if I gave an impression that I’m trying to sell you an idea of believing me. I could care less really. The facts have been written.

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by EgunMogaji2: 12:48am On Jan 03
Mancala:


LOL, your mention of Igbo Ora brings back sweet memories. I dated a lady who studied medicine at UCH and did a rotation at the Igbo Ora medical center. Used to go there to visit her way back then. It was quite a rural area and the medical students complained heavily all the time. Would love to visit again when next I'm in that neck of the woods.
Like you, I have become very interested in Nigerian culture, history, trivia and facts. I spent hours at the British museum last summer studying Nigerian artifacts and continue to read up on related facts. As time has elapsed, my diet at home now consists almost entirely of Nigerian food, at least when I eat at home. This is coming from a guy who did not really care for our dishes when I was back home growing up. Strange, but I really miss the constant noise and commotion that exists in Nigeria. Its hard to get used to being in a mall with a thousand people and you can almost hear a pin drop here in the U.S.


I’m really having a blast Sir. I feel pity for those who see nothing good about Nigeria.

I’ll be off next week to Saki to see how they make local iron pots. I have an idea that it’ll make for a good planter.

Some are hoping that I’ll join them in badmouthing Nigeria but the devil is a liar. We have crummy leaders but for the most part the citizens are the best. The culture is a outstanding. I can’t wait to go to Lokoja and see Rivers Niger and Benue.

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by Beautyaddy: 12:52am On Jan 03
EgunMogaji2:


I’ve always loved Nigeria. That has never changed. I’m sorry you feel otherwise.

I went to the USA to study legally and wasn’t an economic immigrant.

I was gainfully employed in the beautiful and working Nigeria of the 80’s before deciding to pursue a commercial pilots license in the USA.

After 33 years in the USA there’s nothing there for me. USA is not el dorado for me. I’ve stated it ad nuseum that the world is my oyster. I have several countries in Asia that’s on my bucket list.

I’m not done yet, Nigeria just happens to be where I hang my hat now. Amongst my fellow tribals men.

Huh

Did you just lie here

So if you went to the US to study legally...so why didn't you return back to Nigeria immediately after completing the study?

And I want to believe that you didn't spend the whole 33 years plus in the US just studying

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by EgunMogaji2: 12:55am On Jan 03
Beautyaddy:


Huh

Did you just lie here

So if you went to the US to study legally...so why didn't you return back to Nigeria immediately after completing the study?

And I want to believe that you didn't spend the whole 33 years plus in the US still studying


Yeah, I'm a big fat liar with pants on fire.

So maybe you can just ignore me now.

Thanks.

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by Beautyaddy: 1:00am On Jan 03
EgunMogaji2:


Yeah, I'm a big fat liar with pants on fire.

So maybe you can just ignore me now.

Thanks.

buhahahaha!.....we know. cheesy

I will try hard to do just that cheesy

Like the saying goes...at times the Truth sounds Bitter.

You are welcome. cheesy

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by EgunMogaji2: 1:01am On Jan 03
DisGuy:
How's Omi Adio station coming up? Can't wait for the ibadan to Abuja part. Now motivated to retire in Ilorin grin

I was onsite twice this week and still see them working.

The station in Omi is still undergoing construction. In my layman opinion they are moving as fast as humanly possible to accomplish a modern international model, not the sloppy ones that are done locally.

As far as retiring to Ilorin, It's not all the gloom that folks are complaining about here, especially if one has a strategy. God is our guide.

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by PaulSimon2020: 1:16am On Jan 03
EgunMogaji2:


I’ve always loved Nigeria. That has never changed. I’m sorry you feel otherwise.

I went to the USA to study legally and wasn’t an economic immigrant.

I was gainfully employed in the beautiful and working Nigeria of the 80’s before deciding to pursue a commercial pilots license in the USA.

After 33 years in the USA there’s nothing there for me. USA is not el dorado for me. I’ve stated it ad nuseum that the world is my oyster. I have several countries in Asia that’s on my bucket list.

I’m not done yet, Nigeria just happens to be where I hang my hat now. Amongst my fellow tribals men.
And it took you 20yrs to come back for the first time after your studies? That's very interesting!

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by EgunMogaji2: 1:20am On Jan 03
yemiosinbajo:


If he had done this, you probably would have claimed that he did so because the Nigeria of 33 years ago was better than the Nigeria of today, and would not have done so today. Now, he has done so today, but you still find a way to antagonize.

And, what in the world do you mean by, "a country that gave you EVERYTHING?" What the hell is your definition of Everything? He has been sharing the experience of things he has been doing since he returned to Nigeria - are those part of the everything that the US give him, too?

Everyone has what they love and hate, what they miss or enjoy. I know you all are still in disbelief that someone actually went to the US and came back home totally voluntarily despite being in legal status. It's OK to have any disbelief, but what's the point antagonizing him; something that you, the moderator, would be uncomfortable to see, and probably call "derailing" if the thread had been the usual beauty-of-moving-to-yankee-and-leaving-Nigeria that we always see here?

The very idea that I, and many others, have the gonards to move back to Nigeria when almost every Tom, Dick and Harry is processing Canadian visa is shocking to some.

I glossed over the "a country that gave me everything" part because it didn't sound logical. Are we not supposed to go learn, experience and then come back home? Though mine took a bit longer because I started a family but I'm still proud that I made it back with excperiences.

Besides, in these societies like USA and UK where I believe he is based, the system makes you earn your ways if you're legitimate. You take out what you put into it basically. No free gift in Freetown.

Anyways, maybe this cynical view that some are showing is why African Americans are flocking to other African countries instead of Nigeria. I mean African Americans are moving to Africa but it's WW3 for a Nigerian to move back to Nigeria grin

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by EgunMogaji2: 1:22am On Jan 03
PaulSimon2020:
And it took you 20yrs to come back for the first time after your studies? That's very interesting!

At least I visited, some don't. I know people that are in the USA that hasn't seen Nigeria for 45 years. One even came to Ghana and had some of his extended family come to meet him there.

Don't judge my journey based on your own perspective. I told you how mine went.

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by EgunMogaji2: 1:24am On Jan 03
Beautyaddy:


buhahahaha!.....we know. cheesy

I will try hard to do just that cheesy

Like the saying goes...at times the Truth sounds Bitter.

You are welcome. cheesy


But like a moth to a flame though wink

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by Lbrasi: 3:31am On Jan 03
EgunMogaji2:


Yeah, I'm a big fat liar with pants on fire.

So maybe you can just ignore me now.

Thanks.

Sir,

This is just an opinion,please try as much as possible to ignore some comments.I know it's not easy.

I was reading a lady's experience about migrating and living in Dubai,the thread was later turned to all sorts of arguments and insults.She later abandoned it.

Some of us are following to serve as a guide.

Thank you.

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by yemiosinbajo: 4:00am On Jan 03
PaulSimon2020:
And it took you 20yrs to come back for the first time after your studies? That's very interesting!

If he went and came back immediately and created a thread on nairaland about returning to the US after two years, some of you would say maybe he was deported, or maybe he was out or status and life was too hard being illegal, or he was lazy and couldn't find a job, or village people were against him. If after two years, he came back saying the US wasn't Eldorado to him, some of you would have said two years was too short to run into conclusions. It's usually hard in the beginning, hence he should have waited a big longer and should have gotten permanent residency, and he would see how beautiful life would be for him. Now, he waited long enough, had everything he wanted, could stay forever and get access to the best healthcare at old age, could be free from kidnapping or whatever is plaguing Nigeria, yet, knowing all of these, he still decided to return to his motherland. Still, you guys are complaining. If anything, a person who makes a courageous move like this should be applauded.

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by yemiosinbajo: 4:13am On Jan 03
Lbrasi:


Sir,

This is just an opinion,please try as much as possible to ignore some comments.I know it's not easy.

I was reading a lady's experience about migrating and living in Dubai,the thread was later turned to all sorts of arguments and insults.She later abandoned it.

Some of us are following to serve as a guide.

Thank you.

I knew from when he created this thread that it would be hard for this to go down well, because he is shaking a very high table by posting the very opposite of what people want to hear. Imagine if this thread was about moving to Yankee from Nigeria, we would be somewhere on page 30 by now, with many people shouting "boss", "sir", "chief", "abeg come update", "knack us pictures abeg", "God bless you for this wonderful thread", "please epp me", "I tap into your blessings" and all sorts of asslicking words with multiple PMs. But I can tell that a lot of people are rebuking him by just seeing the thread title.

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by rinzaugustine: 4:27am On Jan 03
EgunMogaji2:


It’s not my intention to convince anyone to agree with me.

I put my story out there. If it provides one person out of millions of Nairalanders with entertainment then I’m good.

We all have our own individual courses to chart.
How about your children ?Are they planning to relocate or are you going to start a life of bachelorhood at retirement age

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by justwise(m): 7:09am On Jan 03
EgunMogaji2:


And I’ll always be grateful for all the opportunities. But she’s not el dorado for me. Period.

I’m sorry if I gave an impression that I’m trying to sell you an idea of believing me. I could care less really. The facts have been written.


Too late bro, USA was el dorado for you for 33yrs and you achieved a lot living there and in another phase of your journey in life now. That's all I'm saying, I'm not against you moving back Nigeria as I have repeatedly said here.

If you started a life in Nigeria in your current age you will never achieve what you have in the last 33yrs period.

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by justwise(m): 7:14am On Jan 03
yemiosinbajo:


If he had done this, you probably would have claimed that he did so because the Nigeria of 33 years ago was better than the Nigeria of today, and would not have done so today. Now, he has done so today, but you still find a way to antagonize.

And, what in the world do you mean by, "a country that gave you EVERYTHING?" What the hell is your definition of Everything? He has been sharing the experience of things he has been doing since he returned to Nigeria - are those part of the everything that the US give him, too?

Everyone has what they love and hate, what they miss or enjoy. I know you all are still in disbelief that someone actually went to the US and came back home totally voluntarily despite being in legal status. It's OK to have any disbelief, but what's the point antagonizing him; something that you, the moderator, would be uncomfortable to see, and probably call "derailing" if the thread had been the usual beauty-of-moving-to-yankee-and-leaving-Nigeria that we always see here?

You completely missed the point and still managed to write episodes on a false assumption.

I have specifically pointed the area of his comment I have issues with and not about moving back to Nigeria.

How is that hard for anyone to get?

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by freecocoahubby(m): 8:08am On Jan 03
rinzaugustine:
How about your children ?Are they planning to relocate or are you going to start a life of bachelorhood at retirement age

His children are in the custody of his 3x divorced wives who also collected his properties and funds in divorce court.. and that's why he had no choice but to return to Nigeria.

Moral of the story: never take the advice of anyone dumb enough to get married and divorced 3 times to three different women.. dude is on Nairaland preaching because he can no longer return to the states where he lost everything! OP has serious issues that he hasn't come to terms with yet. @EgunMogaji2 am I lying?

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by EgunMogaji2: 8:29am On Jan 03
freecocoahubby:


His children are in the custody of his 3x divorced wives who also collected his properties and funds in divorce court.. and that's why he had no choice but to return to Nigeria.

Moral of the story: never take the advice of anyone dumb enough to get married and divorced 3 times to three different women.. dude is on Nairaland preaching because he can no longer return to the states where he lost everything! OP has serious issues that he hasn't come to terms with yet. @EgunMogaji2 am I lying?

When you occupy their brain in the new year grin

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Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by stonemasonn: 8:30am On Jan 03
justwise:


If you started a life in Nigeria in your current age you will never achieve what you have in the last 33yrs period.
Anyone can make it anywhere at anytime.

What if Bubu gives him an oil block today?

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