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|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by true2home(m): 12:36am On Apr 04|
you are a blessed and wise man. What you speak of is too complex for most Nigerians. It ok to go abroad but its a duty to every man to do his or her best to return to base. The real fun is being within your community, doing whatever you like and when you like. THAT TO ME IS THE ONLY SUCCESS THERE IS! I younger but I hope to join you soon.
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You’re getting the picture Sir.
I could retire cheaper to Mexico than Nigeria. At least in Mexico I won’t have to sink a borehole, buy multiple generators, rebuild screwed up buildings, bribe policemen and thugs, etc
I could simply drive across the border from Mexico to USA every day if I wanted to. I have Nigerian friends who do exactly that.
The issue I’m starting to feel, and frankly it’s getting tedious, is that people are discounting the joy of being back home.
I was watching a documentary on YouTube about Igbo Ora having the worlds highest twin birth rate. I clicked a link a tab onto Google Map and found out that it was a 2 hour drive away. Guess what I did? Took a shower, hopped into my truck and went there for lunch.
Some weeks back I went to Ogbomosho. And before that I went to Ore.
I love Nigeria and I love being here. End of story [/quote]
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by EgunMogaji2: 2:51am On Apr 04|
Thank you Sir.
May our blessings find us wherever we may be.
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by EgunMogaji2: 3:07pm On Apr 04|
In my humble opinion, Nigeria’s problem is the people.
Now, not that the people are completely bad, it’s just that most have character flaws that’s detrimental to development.
What scares me is that the people themselves know that they are the virus affecting Nigeria.
It never fails to amuse me to see the same people that were orderly while entering the plane in Houston, but as soon as we land in Lagos they become rouges.
Change the mind frame of the people and watch positive development explode in the country.
The government can’t do it and they can only create an enabling environment. When the government builds bridges it is the people that will go and steal the aluminum safety railings to sell.
On the new Lagos Ibadan rail line that yet to be completed, instead of people to be happy that development is coming, some already stole the rail line bolts and clips. That wasn’t done by Buhari, GEJ, etc but by regular people.
Those policemen that takes bribes, they are Nigerians. The bribe giver Nigerian.
I drive along a dusty road to get to my house. During harmattan I drive very slow so I don’t raise dusts to shops, pedestrians, etc but my fellow Nigerians will honk, overtake me and raise all sorts of dust. This brings me to a point that Nigerians have become selfish.
But regardless of the people the country is very beautiful. We have mountains, rain forest, rivers, just a fantastic place to live in.
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|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by owagbeba: 10:17am On Apr 05|
Thanks for an update on these questions. Many returnees also have the same views as you regarding who the culprit of our problems is: the people! I really have no idea how we can correct these character flaws in us. Education system isn't really helping, and many faith preachers have completely lost it.Their words are having no impact on the people.
But then some have stretched this further to make it a "race" thing. They point to the fact there is no one single "wholly" black nation that's considered developed. I have been to just a few like Rwanda, Ghana and South Africa. I must say Rwanda really has it's acts together. It was neat and orderly. Airport was small but clean and functioning. South Africa is okay but you know it was built by the Europeans but those "brothers" in hillbrow and similar suburbs or cities really make one ask the question -is the problem a race thing?
Did you witness similar character flaws amongst AA in the US?
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by youngRx(m): 10:56am On Apr 05|
if i may be bold to address some of the issues you raised sir...
1) You talked about orderliness when entering the plane in Houston, and i believe this orderliness extends even to the way our people drive, obey traffic laws and even, queue in line over there.
Don't you think this orderliness stems from the fact that there are strict penalties to unruly behaviours in such climes irrespective of who you are?. for instance, i don't think the police at these airports will hesitate to bundle anyone who behaves anyhow to the station.
humans are disorderly by nature, and the only reason you see the westerners obey every rule is because there are very strict penalties attached to disobeying any single one of them. over time, they become used to the system and it becomes their way of life.
Don't you think if the government starts implementing very strict policies governing disorderliness in public places that people will start acting in an orderly manner??
2) you talked about people stealing rail bolts and all. Don't you think this is as a result of extreme poverty and joblessness in the land?
a man who has not eaten for a day is capable of anything. ofcourse you wont hear such incidence from the western world. WHY?...because even the poorest citizen is guaranteed of his daily meal, and any person capable of working, can find a menial job that pays minimum wage. with minimum wage, they can pay for rent, eat well and even own a car no matter how small or old.
again, why is it possible for minimum wage earners to enjoy basic amenities? because of a thriving economy. How does a country's economy thrive?... the government invests in infastructures, social amenities etc. so that people can own businesses and run them easily.
the Government also supports these businesses with loans, grants and other incentives so that they can make good profit and in turn, pay workers enough to take care of themselves.
Now, how many capital investments has the government made so far? how much of the national budget is even allocated to capital expenditures?? this is how you know if a country is progressing or not...the amount of capital expenditures by the government.
many Nigerians don't even earn a minimum wage, and even those that do, it is not enough to feed for a whole month talk more of saving to enjoy basic amenities.
3. About raising dusts on untarred roads, don't you think if those roads are tarred this won't be a problem? if the government invests in improving quality of life by providing these basic amenities, and then tax the citizens for the constucted roads, don't you think it'll solve this issue? the reason why the western world thrives in basic amenities is because of the robust taxes citizens pay. what stops the government from improving quality of life and then implement such taxing schemes??
To me, government policies have a great role to play in making our beloved nation great again.
Strict policies on bad behaviour; good business and economic policies; Favorable health policies etc. The whole of the civilised world is govern by policies that are implemented to the letter.... and the sooner the government starts making such policies and implementing them honestly, the better for us all.
Then again, i am still a small boy trying to understand his place in life so my views may be highly flawed.
Still mks me wonder though...why some countries have been thriving excellently in every aspects for centuries while others are lagging behind even in this age of easy access to information on how things should be done.
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|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by AngelicBeing: 11:08am On Apr 05|
owagbeba:A quick add to the Rwanda issue, what you said is correct, but the underlying cause of the orderliness in Rwanda is because of the koboko flogging Dictator called the BUTCHER OF EAST AFRICA President Kagame, in Rwanda, you must obey the laws of Kagame or you are jailed, missing or killed by his secret agents / members of his killer squads, paid informants and the freedom Nigerians enjoy in Nigeria is not in Rwanda
Kagame is a small god in Rwanda masquerading as a Democrat but only time will tell before his cup fills up and the treatment of Libya will be visited on him by his opponents / HUTUS tribe who have formed different militias / armed groups / Rebels within the East African community
I visited, met with the Nigerian Ambassador / consular officials who adviced me very well against further investment in the country, l even had a small real Estate investment which I eventually sold off due to the uncertainty about the country, l gave my detailed analysis about Rwanda in one of the thread on this platform
@EgunMogaji the big masquerade eku ishe ooo
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by Mizwisdom(f): 11:22am On Apr 05|
This is how a typical Nigerian thinks and behaves, he blames the government for all the problems around him but does nothing for himself. He also doesn't even know the right people to hold accountable, everything is caused by the President while the real culprits join in further confusing them nobody bothers to look at the man in the mirror.
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by Olalekank(m): 11:25am On Apr 05|
Responsibility lies in the hands of everyone.
The same sane person would can be orderly at Heathrow is also capable of being orderly in MM Int'l airport
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by youngRx(m): 11:33am On Apr 05|
You saw how i outlined my arguments logically right??
kindly counter them logically also.
tell us if Americans will obey traffic rules if there are no speeding tickets or if there will be good roads in America without taxes.
also tell us who ensures all these speeding tickets are issued timely and that these taxes are collected to the last penny.
also tell us who utilizes these taxes. Oh, i guess the average American does all these by himself. the government has no role in it.
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by youngRx(m): 11:37am On Apr 05|
someone finally gets it. The sole reason why these countries are as organized as they are is because the government is strict in implementing policies. Remove these penalties and see even Americans act like animals on the street.
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by AngelicBeing: 11:44am On Apr 05|
youngRx:Lol, Koboko laden with chilly pepper should be held by Buhari and all government officials from the Vice President to the least worker in the local government to flog shege comot from indisciplined Nigerian's so that the country can move forward, the pictures below is my suggestion / recommendation to Buhari to be applied nationwide on disobedient citizens / corrupt politicians and looters
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by DisGuy: 12:00pm On Apr 05|
Which explains partly, why many voted for him initially. His WAI- War Against Indiscipline- in the 80s
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by AngelicBeing: 12:06pm On Apr 05|
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by EgunMogaji2: 12:26pm On Apr 05|
On the AA thing it’s the same issues. You can easily identify most AA inhabited places. It’s important to follow this up that I said most and used the word places and not people before they come for my head
Are you following the current melee surrounding Funke Akindele? She’s a perfect example and proof of people being the virus in Nigeria.
In her case the government has done the needful. But she singlehandedly decided to host a party during an airborne pandemic and invite some who just came from hotspots without isolating.
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by EgunMogaji2: 12:32pm On Apr 05|
What came first, chicken or the egg?
Maybe if they don’t steal parts then the rails will bring economic development to their neighborhoods. I’m just saying.
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by EgunMogaji2: 12:36pm On Apr 05|
This is my disappointment with General Buhari. The fact that he’s not running the country as he did in my 80’s.
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by DisGuy: 1:17pm On Apr 05|
The new Buhari is tired! Democracy doesn't fit his style and certainly doesn't fit us yet!
Perhaps the koboko style of democracy as done in Rwanda is what we need.
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by youngRx(m): 2:30pm On Apr 05|
lolzzz...you got me at the last part. Nigerians truly have issues.
i still think the Government should institute strict disciplinary measures for us to behave. Sending unbiased investigators to verify this Funke issue, and then fine them heavily for this disregard for law and order, will be a good way to start. they should be made example of.
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by AngelicBeing: 3:32pm On Apr 05|
DisGuy:Despite all the atrocities committed by Kagame, the country is peaceful.
Street fighting = 6 months or more imprisonment
Adultery = 7 years in jail
Tax evasion by both local citizens and foreigners = strict sanctions like 100 percent fines.
Falsification of documents = several koboko laden with chilly pepper and jail terms.
Stealing government money or corruption, that one na big kasala, just run away from the country or else Kagame will slaughter the culprit
The list is endless, so that is why citizens in that country behave themselves, nobody wants Kagame wahala
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|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by mufutau55(m): 5:26pm On Apr 05|
EgunMogaji2:I have heard that even in that 80s he was not the one running the Govt but IdiAgbon. I was highly dissapointed.
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by mufutau55(m): 5:31pm On Apr 05|
Haba! Kilode? The above is one of the African/Black ppl thing now. Too excessive.
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by AngelicBeing: 5:45pm On Apr 05|
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by EgunMogaji2: 6:35pm On Apr 05|
I’ve heard this rumor too. I’m just delighted that he led the army to war personally.
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by EgunMogaji2: 6:36pm On Apr 05|
Support for those who wish for enforcement.
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by mufutau55(m): 7:10pm On Apr 05|
The so-called celebrities, famous, and rich people are always exempted when it comes to law enforcement in Naija. We are lack of equality. God help us.
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by Kenn55: 7:45pm On Apr 05|
Chai bros i feel you. Don't let Nigeria's failure to bother you. You must learn to remove your mind from Nigeria. It is painful but this is the way to go.
Your post reminds me of sometime in 1999 Nigeria just returned to democracy. I was having a drink with 2 of my friends somewhere in Surulere and as young guys we were exited and hopeful for the future of Nigeria. I said to my friends that by 2020, Nigeria will have its own version of US lottery as people all over the world will be trying to live in Nigeria. I was confident that Nigeria will get it right but I was wrong, I WAS WRONG **Shakes my head**
At any point you look at Nigeria, Nigeria seems to be a country where her past is always looking better than her present. However as my oga Egun has said, Nigeria problem is the people. There is no how a country can make progress where more than 90% of the people in my own estimation are irresponsible and without conscience plus an anti development mentality. It is not possible.
It is this 90% of the people that produce the leadership of the country. It is in this 90%, you are likely to pick the police, army, civil servants, pastors,governors, lecturers, policy makers,bankers, presidents, hailers, wailers,voters, lie mohammeds, FFKs etc. Even if you chase the current Nigerian leadership today and pick random people on nairaland or on the street to replace them, the probability of picking the right people is mere 1/10. Even those who curse the current leaders everyday will do worse when given the chance. There are also some percentage of irresponsible
and bad people with wrong mentality abroad but the only luck those countries have is that those set of people are in the minority while our case is reverse. So the probability of picking the right people in leadership is far higher than picking the wrong ones in those places.
Another scenario: Give a Nigerian and an Asian and a white man 1 billion naira to develop their own communities
Among all these people, who is likely going to use 80% of that money to buy houses, cars and stuff his account and then use 20% of the money to construct roads without walkways and other sub standard things that would fall apart after 1 year?
It is the people that make any society function. For instance, Dem no born Trump or Trudeau or other western leaders not to conduct almost daily live press briefings to update their people on the pandemic and answer live questions from the press. Imagine Trump is hiding in the white house and sending pictures and videos to Americans in this pandemic, even his own fox news people will roast him alive not to talk of opposition. But he can comfortably do that in Nigeria and there would be no big deal, why? the people. Statistically speaking, there is a high correlation between the caliber of people in a country and how the country functions.
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by DisGuy: 9:17pm On Apr 05|
Seems for any semblance of normality/development in Africa, there's always a benevolent dictator....Libya, Rwanda, Egypt
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by EgunMogaji2: 10:15pm On Apr 05|
I’ve said this before and was roasted for it but here I go again.
Nigeria needs a ruthless but fair leader.
Look at Ghana. Very nice now and even JJ Rawlings drives himself around town.
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by AngelicBeing: 5:50am On Apr 06|
EgunMogaji2:Any society void of strict enforcement of laws, rules / regulations either via fines, koboko, "Sharia"style of chopping of hands is heading to chaos, anarchy, disaster, disordelinrss etc
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by AngelicBeing: 5:57am On Apr 06|
EgunMogaji2:Gbam, Gbamer, gbamest, Nigeria needs the kind of strict enforcement of laws and koboko laden with chilly pepper( the way it is applied in the GCC countries led by Saudi Arabia / Qatar / Kuwait / UAE / Bahrain / Oman and the kind of koboko in China) to be applied on indisciplined Nigerian's / criminals / looters etc before the country can move forward other than that, the country will continue moving in cycles
|Re: Yankee To Naija: Thoughts And Experiences by Nobody: 7:02am On Apr 06|
Please don't reference the middle east . Their leaders are degenerate hypocrites.
What we want is a Lee Kuan yew. A nasty man who stands for what he says he stands for.
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