So you believe Jesus, the first begotten son of God, was born on December 25th but instead of saying Happy birthday Jesus, you say Merry Christmas

Apart from the fact that most are not even sure Jesus was born December 25th, you may not even know the history of the traditions you claim to be celebrating.

(So you know Jesus was born ending September/ first week of October)

Instead of posting pictures of a supposed Santa Claus, Father Nicholas, who supposedly gave gifts to good kids and the poor.

Why not post pictures of Jesus who gave his life to souls worldwide, but then again what is the "spirit of Christmas" (portrayed in more movies as Santa or better still the "spirit of Claus"

What is the Spirit of Santa Claus, that comes like a thief in the night, winning the hearts of children with physical gifts?

What is the purpose of such an elaborate lie, and who or what is behind such massive deception?

What does scripture say and what do people practice?

Do you really understand what you who call yourself a christian, practice?


But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate.
Revelation 2:6

Where in the Bible can we find "Christmas" - a man-made holiday that originated as "Christ-masse" in the Catholic Church?

Why not Christ-birth? It's supposed to be about his birth right?

Expect you want to tell me it's not mass, but something else, and if it is mass, hope you know what catholic mass means.

Or wait it may not even be about Jesus, the son of God. Their Christ may not be Jesus Christ.

Where, in scriptures, are we told to chop down trees and decorate them? :-(

And why are we giving presents to each other? The "three Wise Men" gave presents to the baby Messiah, not each other!

Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
Jeremiah 10:2-4

While the above Scripture isn't talking about "Christmas trees" per se (it's in reference to carving idols from trees....gilding them with gold and silver and fixing them to the ground and worshiping them), we can certainly see the resemblance!

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Christmas and Esther are the two days in a year that evangelizes Lord Jesus Christ without anybody preaching it.

The pagans/devil actually want Christians to despise a special day God has given to them

1st tradition of the "three wise men"?
Now the in the gospel account the number of wise men wasn't stated, but some traditions give us the number as three which is used in Christmas plays as with the cut down trees.

In fact in the East, the magi traditionally number twelve, but their identification as kings in later Christian writings is probably linked to Psalms 72:11, "May all kings fall down before him".

But the gifts is what should be significant and not necessary the number of wise men.

Besides the wise men didn't visit Jesus when he was born but about a or two year later.


Then as to the giving of gifts, if you Revelation 11:10 the inhabitants of the earth celebrated each other by giving gifts to one another but the purpose was not to celebrate what God has done.

So why are people giving each other gifts? What are we celebrating seeing as Jesus wasn't born on 25th?

What is the true purpose of all these things? If God didn't ordain it then who did?

The Origins of Christmas Customs

A. The Origin of Christmas Tree
Just as early Christians recruited Roman pagans by associating Christmas with the Saturnalia, so too worshippers of the Asheira cult and its offshoots were recruited by the Church sanctioning “Christmas Trees”.
Pagans had long worshipped trees in the forest, or brought them into their homes and decorated them, and this observance was adopted and painted with a Christian veneer by the Church.


B. The Origin of Mistletoe
Norse mythology recounts how the god Balder was killed using a mistletoe arrow by his rival god Hoder while fighting for the female Nanna. Druid rituals use mistletoe to poison their human sacrificial victim. The Christian custom of “kissing under the mistletoe” is a later synthesis of the sexual license of Saturnalia with the Druidic sacrificial cult.


C. The Origin of Christmas Presents
In pre-Christian Rome, the emperors compelled their most despised citizens to bring offerings and gifts during the Saturnalia (in December) and Kalends (in January). Later, this ritual expanded to include gift-giving among the general populace. The Catholic Church gave this custom a Christian flavor by re-rooting it in the supposed gift-giving of Saint Nicholas (see below).


D. The Origin of Santa Claus

a. Nicholas was born in Parara, Turkey in 270 CE and later became Bishop of Myra. He died in 345 CE on December 6th. He was only named a saint in the 19th century.

b. Nicholas was among the most senior bishops who convened the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE and created the New Testament. The text they produced portrayed Jews as “the children of the devil” who sentenced Jesus to death.

c. In 1087, a group of sailors who idolized Nicholas moved his bones from Turkey to a sanctuary in Bari, Italy. There Nicholas supplanted a female boon-giving deity called The Grandmother, or Pasqua Epiphania, who used to fill the children's stockings with her gifts. The Grandmother was ousted from her shrine at Bari, which became the center of the Nicholas cult. Members of this group gave each other gifts during a pageant they conducted annually on the anniversary of Nicholas’ death, December 6.

d. The Nicholas cult spread north until it was adopted by German and Celtic pagans. These groups worshipped a pantheon led by Woden –their chief god and the father of Thor, Balder, and Tiw. Woden had a long, white beard and rode a horse through the heavens one evening each Autumn. When Nicholas merged with Woden, he shed his Mediterranean appearance, grew a beard, mounted a flying horse, rescheduled his flight for December, and donned heavy winter clothing.

e. In a bid for pagan adherents in Northern Europe, the Catholic Church adopted the Nicholas cult and taught that he did (and they should) distribute gifts on December 25th instead of December 6th.

f. In 1809, the novelist Washington Irving (most famous his The Legend of Sleepy Hollow and Rip Van Winkle ) wrote a satire of Dutch culture entitled Knickerbocker History . The satire refers several times to the white bearded, flying-horse riding Saint Nicholas using his Dutch name, Santa Claus.

g. Dr. Clement Moore, a professor at Union Seminary, read Knickerbocker History , and in 1822 he published a poem based on the character Santa Claus: “Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house, not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse. The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, in the hope that Saint Nicholas soon would be there…” Moore innovated by portraying a Santa with eight reindeer who descended through chimneys.

h. The Bavarian illustrator Thomas Nast almost completed the modern picture of Santa Claus. From 1862 through 1886, based on Moore’s poem, Nast drew more than 2,200 cartoon images of Santa for Harper’s Weekly. Before Nast, Saint Nicholas had been pictured as everything from a stern looking bishop to a gnome-like figure in a frock. Nast also gave Santa a home at the North Pole, his workshop filled with elves, and his list of the good and bad children of the world. All Santa was missing was his red outfit.


i. In 1931, the Coca Cola Corporation contracted the Swedish commercial artist Haddon Sundblom to create a coke-drinking Santa. Sundblom modeled his Santa on his friend Lou Prentice, chosen for his cheerful, chubby face. The corporation insisted that Santa’s fur-trimmed suit be bright, Coca Cola red. And Santa was born – a blend of Christian crusader, pagan god, and commercial idol.


Every wondered why you see billboards with Merry Christmas and not HAPPY BIRTHDAY JESUS

mrZENographer:
Christmas and Esther are the two days in a year that evangelizes Lord Jesus Christ without anybody preaching it.

The pagans/devil actually want Christians to despise a special day God has given to them

can you see how devil is making any means to stop this evangelism ! Devil you will fail.

BlueAngel444:
The Origins of Christmas Customs

A. The Origin of Christmas Tree
Just as early Christians recruited Roman pagans by associating Christmas with the Saturnalia, so too worshippers of the Asheira cult and its offshoots were recruited by the Church sanctioning “Christmas Trees”.
Pagans had long worshipped trees in the forest, or brought them into their homes and decorated them, and this observance was adopted and painted with a Christian veneer by the Church.


B. The Origin of Mistletoe
Norse mythology recounts how the god Balder was killed using a mistletoe arrow by his rival god Hoder while fighting for the female Nanna. Druid rituals use mistletoe to poison their human sacrificial victim. The Christian custom of “kissing under the mistletoe” is a later synthesis of the sexual license of Saturnalia with the Druidic sacrificial cult.


C. The Origin of Christmas Presents
In pre-Christian Rome, the emperors compelled their most despised citizens to bring offerings and gifts during the Saturnalia (in December) and Kalends (in January). Later, this ritual expanded to include gift-giving among the general populace. The Catholic Church gave this custom a Christian flavor by re-rooting it in the supposed gift-giving of Saint Nicholas (see below).


D. The Origin of Santa Claus

a. Nicholas was born in Parara, Turkey in 270 CE and later became Bishop of Myra. He died in 345 CE on December 6th. He was only named a saint in the 19th century.

b. Nicholas was among the most senior bishops who convened the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE and created the New Testament. The text they produced portrayed Jews as “the children of the devil” who sentenced Jesus to death.

c. In 1087, a group of sailors who idolized Nicholas moved his bones from Turkey to a sanctuary in Bari, Italy. There Nicholas supplanted a female boon-giving deity called The Grandmother, or Pasqua Epiphania, who used to fill the children's stockings with her gifts. The Grandmother was ousted from her shrine at Bari, which became the center of the Nicholas cult. Members of this group gave each other gifts during a pageant they conducted annually on the anniversary of Nicholas’ death, December 6.

d. The Nicholas cult spread north until it was adopted by German and Celtic pagans. These groups worshipped a pantheon led by Woden –their chief god and the father of Thor, Balder, and Tiw. Woden had a long, white beard and rode a horse through the heavens one evening each Autumn. When Nicholas merged with Woden, he shed his Mediterranean appearance, grew a beard, mounted a flying horse, rescheduled his flight for December, and donned heavy winter clothing.

e. In a bid for pagan adherents in Northern Europe, the Catholic Church adopted the Nicholas cult and taught that he did (and they should) distribute gifts on December 25th instead of December 6th.

f. In 1809, the novelist Washington Irving (most famous his The Legend of Sleepy Hollow and Rip Van Winkle ) wrote a satire of Dutch culture entitled Knickerbocker History . The satire refers several times to the white bearded, flying-horse riding Saint Nicholas using his Dutch name, Santa Claus.

g. Dr. Clement Moore, a professor at Union Seminary, read Knickerbocker History , and in 1822 he published a poem based on the character Santa Claus: “Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house, not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse. The stockings were hung by the chimney with care, in the hope that Saint Nicholas soon would be there…” Moore innovated by portraying a Santa with eight reindeer who descended through chimneys.

h. The Bavarian illustrator Thomas Nast almost completed the modern picture of Santa Claus. From 1862 through 1886, based on Moore’s poem, Nast drew more than 2,200 cartoon images of Santa for Harper’s Weekly. Before Nast, Saint Nicholas had been pictured as everything from a stern looking bishop to a gnome-like figure in a frock. Nast also gave Santa a home at the North Pole, his workshop filled with elves, and his list of the good and bad children of the world. All Santa was missing was his red outfit.


i. In 1931, the Coca Cola Corporation contracted the Swedish commercial artist Haddon Sundblom to create a coke-drinking Santa. Sundblom modeled his Santa on his friend Lou Prentice, chosen for his cheerful, chubby face. The corporation insisted that Santa’s fur-trimmed suit be bright, Coca Cola red. And Santa was born – a blend of Christian crusader, pagan god, and commercial idol.


Every wondered why you see billboards with Merry Christmas and not HAPPY BIRTHDAY JESUS

now if a shrine is converted to church when the priest of the shrine has given his to Christ then he summited his shrine to rebuild as church , does it mean the church is still shrine?

jcross19:
now if a shrine is converted to church when the priest of the shrine has given his to Christ then he summited his shrine to rebuild as church , does it mean the church is still shrine?

Yes

If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?

Psalms 11:3

Was the Shrine destroyed? Or was it converted to a church

God commanded the Israelites to destroy the idols

BlueAngel444:

Yes

If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?

Psalms 11:3

Was the Shrine destroyed? Or was it converted to a church

God commanded the Israelites to destroy the idols

this is simple the word "converted"in my sentence has deep meaning which can be elaborated in form total destruction of the shrine and erection of church , those that knows that the place was formally shrine how will they react when the see church

jcross19:
this is simple the word "converted"in my sentence has deep meaning which can be elaborated in form total destruction of the shrine and erection of church , those that knows that the place was formally shrine how will they react when the see church

As long as the foundation is holy, the earth is the Lord's and the fullness therefore. And the new foundation has nothing connecting it with the old.

Even Jesus said, don't put new wine in an old wine sack.

But what's the aim of your questions self

Does God permit one to mix two different things up

BlueAngel444:


As long as the foundation is holy, the earth is the Lord's and the fullness therefore. And the new foundation has nothing connecting it with the old.

Even Jesus said, don't put new wine in an old wine sack.

But what's the aim of your questions self

Does God permit one to mix two different things up

ahahahah am just laughing well this is what I mean those passer by that saw the place as shrine but later see church on that same place what will they say? God is the owner of all things He uses what He created to glorifies His name.

jcross19:
ahahahah am just laughing well this is what I mean those passer by that saw the place as shrine but later see church on that same place what will they say? God is the owner of all things He uses what He created to glorifies His name.

What the passer by hears doesn't matter as much as what they will hear.

Is it the true word of God or some traditionally mixed stuff for them to swallow?

It doesn't matter if evil changes it's face, it's intent is always the same.

Believe it or not, the Nicolaitans are in part responsible for "Christianity's" acceptance of Christmas, Easter, Halloween and other unbiblical practices.

More importantly, Nicolaitanism, representative of a much broader philosophy, can be blamed for the organized and systematic removal of God's law as a central pillar of the Christian way of life. These things happened because of an attitude, an approach to the truth, found in the Nicolaitan heresy.

Interestingly, Jesus mentions Nicolaitanism in a few of His letters to the seven churches in Revelation 2. This fact brings in a prophetic angle—that is, it makes Nicolaitanism not only a historical movement but also a current and future trend within the church of God. Knowing what Nicolaitanism is and how it works may be important to our spiritual survival!

Papers on the subject, Nicolaitanism, often linked with ideas about the heresy of Balaam, circulated from hand to hand and across the Internet. One can even argue that these papers' definitions of Nicolaitanism spurred and intensified the scattering of the brethren.

In the main, these papers defined Nicolaitanism as the belief and practice of hierarchical government, the scapegoat for all the church's problems, with an emphasis on tithing and using a paid ministry. This definition derives from the meaning of the word
Nicolaos in Greek: "conqueror of the people" ( Balaam in Hebrew has a similar meaning).


Three things we should note:
1 . Nicolaitanism is a belief system, like a religion or a philosophy.
2 . Nicolaitanism results in ungodly behavior.
3 . Christ hates it vehemently.

BlueAngel444:


What the passer by hears doesn't matter as much as what they will hear.

Is it the true word of God or some traditionally mixed stuff for them to swallow?

It doesn't matter if evil changes it's face, it's intent is always the same.

funny some people because they think they are wise then they begin to sound stupid.

jcross19:
funny some people because they think they are wise then they begin to sound stupid.

Don't get what's your point

Lemme ask you a question, supposing your claims are correct, If God that owns heaven and Earth asks those gods that owns Christmas according to you to hand over the date to his Son, since Christians now celebrate it in majority.

Will the gods refuse?

God can use any date he wants because he owns them and not any stupid gods. 25th belongs to God because he created every day!

So God come tell u say he nor like Christmas ? And it is a sanctified day used for Christ He has already claimed it..

GreetMe:
Lemme ask you a question, supposing your claims are correct, If God that owns heaven and Earth asks those gods that owns Christmas according to you to hand over the date to his Son, since Christians now celebrate it in majority.

Will the gods refuse?

God can use any date he wants because he owns them and not any stupid gods. 25th belongs to God because he created every day!

Lmao... This your ideology is so funny.

First off, no where does God command for such a celebration in the first place, so there won't even be a need for the above.


And besides his birth has been set and it wasn't in what we call December.

Mcuzy:
So God come tell u say he nor like Christmas ? And it is a sanctified day used for Christ He has already claimed it..

Sanctified by whom?

Ok lemme help you, say Gabriel visited Mary in December does that sanctify the month

Or wait, does the numerous pagan worship of their deities in such day and period count

Or let's be Jewish how about the Hanukkah, does that sanctify it enough

BlueAngel444:
Sanctified by whom?

Ok lemme help you, say Gabriel visited Mary in December does that sanctify the month

Or wait, does the numerous pagan worship of their deities in such day and period count

Or let's be Jewish how about the Hanukkah, does that sanctify it enough

No one is saying Christ was born in December ,but no one knows when he was born so we celebrate on Christmas day...
Are u a witness?

By Dr H .Spencer Lewis THE IMPERATOR, AMORC

[From the article '' MAKING CHRISTMAS COME TRUE'',The Rosicrucian Digest December 1932]


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.........Whether we are Christians or not in no way affects our appreciation of the spirit of Christmas, and, of course, a month before the Christmas holiday is the popular Thanksgiving holiday in the United States, and immediately after Christmas falls the New Year holiday, which is very widely recognized and celebrated in most countries of the Western World. Therefore, between the 25th of November and the 2nd of January our lives, our social affairs, business and personal interests, and other matters are greatly affected by the almost universal spirit of celebration, good will, and human joyousness.

Whether we can enter into the Christian spirit of accepting the 25th day of December as the birthday of Jesus the Christ, or not, the fact remains that Jews and Gentiles and many others of other religions accept this day as a time of good will to all beings. December 25th, as we have stated before, was a time for good will, and the giving of gifts, and the bringing of joy into the human consciousness long before Jesus the Christ was born. Among the many festive days of the pagans and among the many holidays of those religious and non-religious peoples who preceded the Christian era, December the 25th was the most outstanding and most important of all. There are many things which indicate that when the great fathers of the Christian church were perplexed at deciding upon the precise date of the birth of Jesus the Christ, they were influenced by the fact that December 25th had always been a holiday typical of the Christian spirit and would, therefore, be most appropriate.

The spirit of that ancient holiday is reflected in every feature of our present day Christmas time. In pre-Christian years prisoners then in bondage were set free on the eve of December 25th, and throughout the day people exchanged gifts, readings, and every symbol and sign of good will was expressed. Today the spirit of Christmas is something that is always separate and apart from the sacred celebration of the birth of the Great Savior. As we have already said even those peoples whose religious beliefs do not permit them to keep the sectarian holiness of the day, find in it an opportunity for the definite expression of the spirit of good will and human fellowship that is very broadly and quite uniquely the true expression of the Christ spirit........


.......For no reason that is sane and sensible, January 1st has been selected as the beginning of the year. It is, in fact, neither the beginning nor the end of a year or of a season. It is midseason, midwinter in most places in the northern hemisphere, and far removed from the rebirth of the year, and the rebirth of life throughout nature as made manifest in or about the Spring equinox in March. In many oriental countries the month of March is looked upon as the proper time for the celebration of the beginning of a new year, for it is not only the beginning of a new season but the beginning of new life after the long sleep and transition of nature throughout the winter. And so it is with the spirit of good will and of good fellowship; instead of expressing this good will to all beings throughout the year and seeking every opportunity to give to those who are in need and to bring happiness and joy to others who are in sorrow, and singing the songs of life everlasting to those who are Cosmically and spiritually asleep, we wait for Christmas day to do those things which might be done on any day of the year....

..... Perhaps the fact that December 25th is so universally looked upon as a time of good will induces us to express the goodness in our hearts more completely, and with greater significance than we would do under different circumstances. If this is an argument in favor of organized and ritualistic emotional expression then we should be logical enough to prove it and to do it. Therefore, I say to those who withhold from others throughout the year the good will they should express and who restrain themselves in the impulses to give and share with others what they have, that on Christmas day or throughout the festive week following it every effort should be made to unburden oneself of the pent-up and restrained expressions of the entire year.

Unquestionably, each one of us owes something to others, and unquestionably each one of us is enjoying benefits and blessings that we can share with others and should do so. The Cosmic law of compensation and the universal law of supply and demand requires that we not only give thanks for what we have, but that we look upon ourselves as trustees for the Cosmic dispensation of blessings. God and all of nature require human channels through which the great work of the universal benedictions can be carried out. Each one of us is a channel, therefore, for the dissemination of that which God intends each of us to enjoy. Certainly joy and happiness are the most essential things in life, often enjoyed in abundance by many, but found wanting in the lives of many more. I need not pose as a prophet, nor phrase my words as a prediction when I say that next Christmas day there will be millions in our own environment and close to each one of us who will find in that day nothing more than a day of ordinary experiences fraught with solitude, despondency, gloom, sorrow, want, and regret. Without leaving our immediate neighborhoods and also without doing more than cross the street, we can find someone on that day whose picture of life will be the very opposite of our own. Just how any one of us can feel the fullness of Christmas joy and be as extremely happy as we should be while across the street or around the corner there is someone in want or in sorrow, in sadness and grief, is something I cannot understand.

We speak of desiring to have the Christ Consciousness developed within us. Even those who are not essentially Christians admit that the presence of the Christ Consciousness would be not only desirable, but the maximum of their earthly desires. Yet if there was any one outstanding emotion made manifest by the living Christ on earth it was the consciousness of the sorrow of the world. He constantly expressed the thought that He sensed and was highly sensitive of the grief, the pain, the bitterness resting in the hearts of those around Him and throughout the world. He was a man of sorrows, not because of personal experiences, but because of the consciousness of the experiences of the millions of human beings around Him. How then, can any of us expect to have or feel that we do have the least degree of Christ Consciousness within us and yet be immune to the sorrows of the world, and restrained from sharing our happiness or our blessings with those who do not have them?

If we would get the utmost out of the Christmas spirit this year, or any other year, and if we would live a life that would exemplify the Christ Consciousness within us, we will seek as the ideal Christ sought, and as the ideal of Christ within us would seek to find opportunity, occasion, ways, and means of bringing some happiness and joy, some relief, some bright light of hope and cheer into the lives of those who do not have these things either at Christmas time or any other time of the year.

Therefore, make this Christmas a true Christian spirit holy day by sharing with others to some small degree at least that which you have an abundance of, even if it be but happiness and the smiles of joy with those who do not have them, and in this way make Christmas come true, independent of its religious significance, independent of its sectarian meaning, and uniquely and wholly in the spirit of the ideal that it exemplifies.

No reason, real or imaginary, will ever be enough to make Christmas acceptable to a saint of YHVH Almighty.

The saints are expected to show love to their fellow human beings every day and all the time.

I am not saying that the world should not celebrate their Christmas and New year, far be it from me. Such celebrations are not for the saints of YHVH Almighty so long as they are not Scripturally sanctioned.

For those who claim to follow Yahushua the Messiah and still worship demons secretly and think they will score some cheap points by claiming they do not celebrate Christmas and New year, stop deluding yourselves. You are already an abomination to YHVH Almighty.

GreetMe:
Lemme ask you a question, supposing your claims are correct, If God that owns heaven and Earth asks those gods that owns Christmas according to you to hand over the date to his Son, since Christians now celebrate it in majority.

Will the gods refuse?

God can use any date he wants because he owns them and not any stupid gods. 25th belongs
to God because he created every day!

This portion of the Scriptures should answer your question.

Deut 12:29-32.

Mcuzy:
No one is saying Christ was born in December ,but no one knows when he was born so we celebrate on Christmas day...
Are u a witness?

The fact that the Scriptures did not state specifically when the Messiah was born, should give you an idea of how Yahushua the Messiah regards Christmas. The Messiah neither celebrated his birth nor did he instruct us, his saints, to celebrate his birth.

Jer 2:13 for my people have committed two sins: they have turned away from me, the spring of living water, they have dug cisterns, cracked cisterns that can hold no water at all.

Mcuzy:
So God come tell u say he nor like Christmas ? And it is a sanctified day used for Christ He has already claimed it..

When and where did the Messiah tell you he had already claimed it?

elated177:



The fact that the Scriptures did not state specifically when the Messiah was born, should give you an idea of how Yahushua the Messiah regards Christmas. The Messiah neither celebrated his birth nor did he instruct us, his saints, to celebrate his birth.

Jer 2:13 for my people have committed two sins: they have turned away from me, the spring of living water, they have dug cisterns, cracked cisterns that can hold no water at all.

u're impossible.

elated177:


When and where did the Messiah tell you he had already claimed it?

when and where did he tell u he hates Christmas

jcross19:
now if a shrine is converted to church when the priest of the shrine has given his to Christ then he summited his shrine to rebuild as church , does it mean the church is still shrine?

Well, the Messiah did not instruct us to build any specific structure as a placefor worship, since we, the saints, are his temples.

However, let us say - hypothetically, of course - that Yahushua the Messiah did want us to erect physical structures specifically as places of worship, the instructions given to the Israelites regarding the Canaanite towns and altars would be the ways to go.

Deut 12:1-3 Here are the laws that you are to obey as long as you live in the land YHVH, the God of your ancestors, is giving you. Listen to them! In the land that you are taking, destroy all the places where the people worship their gods on high mountains, on hills, and under green trees. Tear down their altars and smash their sacred stone pillars to pieces. Burn their symbols of the goddess Asherah and chop down their idols, so that they will never again be worshipped at those places.

The structure must be pulled down completely and everything in it must be destroyed and burnt. Then, a fresh structure is erected on the same piece of land in honor of YHVH Almighty. Unless, of course, YHVH Almighty commands that such land be left empty for a time or perpetually.

But then, Yahushua the Messiah did not instruct us to erect any physical structure specifically as a place of worship.

Mcuzy:
u're impossible.

How so?

Mcuzy:
So God come tell u say he nor like Christmas ? And it is a sanctified day used for Christ He has already claimed it..

BlueAngel444:
Sanctified by whom?

Ok lemme help you, say Gabriel visited Mary in December does that sanctify the month
Or wait, does the numerous pagan worship of their deities in such day and period count
Or let's be Jewish how about the Hanukkah, does that sanctify it enough[/quote

[quote author=elated177 post=85237096]When and where did the Messiah tell you he had already claimed it?

Mcuzy:
No one is saying Christ was born in December ,but no one knows when he was born so we celebrate on Christmas day...
Are u a witness?

No need to go asking about if JW or not JW

elated177:
The fact that the Scriptures did not state specifically when the Messiah was born, should give you an idea of how Yahushua the Messiah regards Christmas. The Messiah neither celebrated his birth nor did he instruct us, his saints, to celebrate his birth.

Jer 2:13 for my people have committed two sins: they have turned away from me, the spring of living water, they have dug cisterns, cracked cisterns that can hold no water at all.

Mcuzy:
u're impossible.

Mcuzy:
when and where did he tell u he hates Christmas

"Don’t copy the behavior and customs of this world,
but let God transform you into a new person by changing the way you think.
Then you will learn to know God’s will for you, which is good and pleasing and perfect"
- Romans 12:2