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Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by Sprumbaba: 7:23pm On Jan 05, 2020
LegendHero:
To the people that dosen't know much about the timeline of event between USA and Iran, and those of you that always claim Iran are terrorists for standing up against bullies, let me summarize a few:

During the 1950s, USA was wary of communism and trying to clip the hands of the soviet union (communists) around the world.

During the 1950s, the British owned Anglo-Iranian oil company (Now known as British Petroleum) controlled Iran's oil refining capacity.

In 1951, the Iran government under PM Mohammed Mossadegh told the British that majority of the funds from the refined oil should go to Iranians, the British rejected the idea, the Iran government responded by nationalizing the British refinery in the city of Abadan.

Winston Churchill UK new PM was furious about this and he suggested to the CIA (USA) that the Iran communist party (Tudeh) is getting powerful and that they are taking over the country. The USA feared a communist country and they were drafted into Iran's case.

In 1953, the US and UK jointly began a coup against Iran in Operation Ajax (Planned from the USA embassy in Tehran), this coup deposed Mossadegh and put the power in the hands of the Shah. The Shah ruled with an absolute monarchy (Iran was practicing democracy before the coup).

People hated the Shah because they see him as a western puppet, also accused him of unpopular policies coupled with the harassment from his secret police called SAVAK. The SAVAK were trained mostly by American and Israeli military.

In 1979, Islamic revolution happened in Iran installing Ayatollah Khomeini. The people knew the USA planned the earlier coup from the USA embassy in Tehran, so to make the new revolution succeed further, they laid a 444-day hostage crisis in the embassy. Iran became enemies to the USA. Although conspiracy theories said USA supported Ayatollah indirectly (USA has always been double faced).

During the Iran-Iraq 8-years war. US heavily arms Iraq to oust increasingly successful Iran and then secretly armed Iran too to save them from Iraq. The Iraqis were led by Sadam-Hussein.

The west later fell-out with Sadam Hussein and invaded Iraq. The USA noticed that Iraq and Iran are starting to get closer because the majority Shia of Iran were visiting the holy sites in Iraq as the Baathist regime was removed. Ties grew between Iran and the new Iraq.

The USA accuses Iran of supporting terrorism because they are opposing the USA continued presence in Iraq. Iran school of though was that if USA remains in Iraq successfully, then they can invade Iran in the future.

George Bush label Iran as the axis of evil and they were accused of building atomic weapon. The USA sanctioned them and the Iranians signed an agreement that they will not pursue atomic weapon for 10 years if sanctions were lifted in 2009.

Trump broke the treaty, increased pressure on Iran which led to the current provocations and hullabaloo.

USA has a powerful weapon of the media. The always label opposing minds terrorist and with the current stigma on Islam, it is not hard to convince people. For all of you, Buhari labelled Nnamdi Kanu a terrorist which all of us knew he was not. If the USA suddenly drop a bomb on Nnamdi Kanu due to that pronouncement will you be happy?

Note: I love USA coz they are a great country but sometimes they use their power to oppress the weak. Truly this world politics is like the animal jungle where the powerful oppress the weak.

Let us educate you as well: This is from Iranian born.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_htudbaqsk
Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by Kingrefreshed: 7:23pm On Jan 05, 2020
Tetehjewels:


WASHINGTON -- The United States has designated Asaib Ahl Al-Haq as a Foreign Terrorist Organization (FTO), saying the Iraqi militia is a proxy for Iran.

The U.S. State Department statement on January 3 said that it was also sanctioning two of the group’s leaders.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo called the militia and its leaders "violent proxies of the Islamic Republic of Iran.”

The State Department said Asaib Ahl Al-Haq, also known as the League of the Righteous, is backed by Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) Quds Force, which has been similarly designated by the United States.

The State Department said it also designated Qais al-Khazali, leader of Asaib Ahl Al-Haq, and his brother Laith al-Khazali, another leader of the group, as specially designated global terrorists.

Such designations will freeze the U.S.-related assets of the group and the two leaders, generally ban Americans from doing business with them, and make it a crime to provide support or resources to the militia.

The move comes hours after a U.S. drone strike killed the powerful commander of the elite Quds Force in an attack in Baghdad, igniting outrage in Iran.

Qasem Soleimani, one of the most powerful military men in Iran, was killed in an attack on two vehicles at Baghdad’s international airport in the early morning hours of January 3.

Tehran has vast influence and supports many Shi'ite militias based in neighboring Iraq. Baghdad has attempted to balance its relations between the United States and Iran, both of which provide crucial military and financial support to the struggling government.

https://www.rferl.org/a/u-s-designates-iraqi-shi-ite-militia-as-foreign-terrorist-organization/30359784.html



Correct! Na so dem label Ipob a terrorist organization.

We go reach there small small.

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Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by Neddstark: 7:23pm On Jan 05, 2020
Seems like there is a war against Shia islam
Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by Shach: 7:23pm On Jan 05, 2020
just imaging the world without America and Israel. some people would have force us to believe in what they believe by fire by force. God bless Israel. God bless America. God please remember nigeria

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Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by nnaeyes6: 7:24pm On Jan 05, 2020
Tetehjewels:


They never went rogue. USA went rogue with this one. The Iraqi Militia has been helping with keeping iraq safe and if you tune in to CNN OR BBC or Aljazeera you will see how Suleimani and and the iraqi Militia are loved in iraq. It is USA they want gone from their land and this is a unified call.
OGA
Suleimani killed many is Syria. A town in Syria is sharing pancake to celebrate the death of Suleiman and thanking God for sending Trump to kill Suleimani. Funny enough, they are also asking God to kill Assad, their president as if they are praying with Nigerians

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Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by Sisqoman(m): 7:24pm On Jan 05, 2020
Hope NTA will show their war, I can't wait to watch the film...
Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by Topmaike007(m): 7:25pm On Jan 05, 2020
drakeli:
oooh no! Another I am a Christian wannabe. Oga! You are a Muslim. Period!
I doubt what you say from my moniker you will see that my name is Mike,we're not like many of you that allow religion take away your sense of reasoning

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Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by LegendHero(m): 7:25pm On Jan 05, 2020
Sprumbaba:


Let us educate you as well: This is from Iranian born.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_htudbaqsk

This is not a matter of education, disprove my facts or bring contrary opinion.

I don't need anyone to spoon-feed me with a video.

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Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by SaintLucia: 7:25pm On Jan 05, 2020
Very funny the same Igbo that were supporting EL-Zakzaky an Iranian puppet and terrorist against the government of Nigeria just because they hate Buhari are the same people hailing America for the killing of an Iranian top commander. Confused clowns.

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Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by EdidemLord(m): 7:25pm On Jan 05, 2020
las las no be Armageddon or anything other thing go end this world but na we human beings....I don even dey regret why I even bring pikin come this wicked world
Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by emmaitive(m): 7:26pm On Jan 05, 2020
Tetehjewels:
Trump and Pompeo are slowly running mad. Is it the same Iraqi Militia who was instrumental to the destruction of ISIS in Iraq that USA now want to call terrorists?

The same Suleimani along with the kurd forces helped protect about 1million Christians in Syria as he destroyed ISIS in Syria as well is now who USA calls a terrorist?

God is watching. I am a Christian but something about all USA is doing and saying this time is not right
shut up joor,dt u go to church does nt make u a christian..better face ur buisness and leave trump alone..nah u know pass dem
Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by veeceesynergy: 7:26pm On Jan 05, 2020
Tetehjewels:
Trump and Pompeo are slowly running mad. Is it the same Iraqi Militia who was instrumental to the destruction of ISIS in Iraq that USA now want to call terrorists?

The same Suleimani along with the kurd forces helped protect about 1million Christians in Syria as he destroyed ISIS in Syria as well is now who USA calls a terrorist?

God is watching. I am a Christian but something about all USA is doing and saying this time is not right




To my own understanding, Trump is just trying to divert d attention of d congress from impeachment.
D senate cant debate his impeachment wen there is an impending war looming.
I've tried to see reasons with Trump on why d guy had to be killed now without any new provocation.
Trump is playing African Politics in America.
Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by SaintLucia: 7:26pm On Jan 05, 2020
Very funny the same Igbo that were supporting EL-Zakzaky an Iranian puppet and terrorist against the government of Nigeria just because they hate Buhari are the same people hailing America for the killing of an Iranian top commander. Confused clowns.
Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by Tulsaguy: 7:26pm On Jan 05, 2020
Tetehjewels:
Trump and Pompeo are slowly running mad. Is it the same Iraqi Militia who was instrumental to the destruction of ISIS in Iraq that USA now want to call terrorists?

The same Suleimani along with the kurd forces helped protect about 1million Christians in Syria as he destroyed ISIS in Syria as well is now who USA calls a terrorist?

God is watching. I am a Christian but something about all USA is doing and saying this time is not right


Nonsense. Does a sovereign nation needs another militia within it in the first place. Don't they have the military, police force and other intelligent units?

The militia you allowed to thrive, form alliance with to quell foreign attacks will one day become a lion you can't tame.

If there are enough reasons to proscribe them a terrorist organization, US should. Notwithstanding whatever helps they offered in the past.


If Nigeria had allowed OPC, Bakassi boys etc do the work of the military and not draw the lines, they would have become something else today...

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Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by kayjay69(m): 7:27pm On Jan 05, 2020
The whole thing has turned into one big joke honestly.

So let me get this straight, the US invades a very stable and somewhat calm Iraq with Saddam Hussein as its President under the pretext of having Nuclear and Chemical weapons. They kill him like a dog in the street then Iran has a field day because Iraq is a Shia majority.

Not happy with this outcome, the US, Saudi Arabia and Israel establish and empower ISIL (or ISIS whichever you choose) to primarily limit Iran's growing influence via proxy and contain them within their own borders. When the whole thing starts getting out of hand, Russia steps in to save their buddy Syria via military pact, Iran steps in to limit the spread of ISIS (this was what Qasem Soleimani did and did very effectively), then the same USA steps in pretending to fight ISIL (or ISIS).

ISIS gets kicked in the teeth mainly due to the Shia militia groups led by Soleimani, US sees their influence waning in the region, in Syria they are not wanted, in Iraq nobody needs them. And they know for sure with a Shia majority led parliament, it was only a matter of time before they were asked to leave. So Trump does something only Trump would do and assassinates a high ranking Iranian General who has led to their diminished stature in the region and after the Iraqi parliament passed a resolution asking them to leave the country, they label the Shiite Militia group responsible for fighting and limiting ISIL a terrorist organisation.

My conclusion really is this, the United States of America is the biggest Terrorist Organisation in the world and every country that values its existence and heritage must work to ensure they are strong and independent to standup to their tactics.

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Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by Typhoonsbane: 7:27pm On Jan 05, 2020
grandiose4ever:
Lol I pity this Iran.

Iranian defence budget: $10 billion
USA defence budget: $700 - 800 billion



Iran: Unreliable alliance with Russia
USA: lockdown 28 allies that must automatically come to it's defence by article 5 of the NATO treaty - NATO allies include France, Britain(Badass naval force) and Turkey(one of the largest militaries on earth)



Iran: Middle east alliance of terrorist groups e.g Hezbollah or near failed state such as Syria or Houthis of Yemen
USA: Active alliance with Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Isreal, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE.
With no doubt Isreal will bleed on the front line for America. Saudi despises Iran and would fight to bring an end to Iran. Egypt would most likely stay neutral


Iran: 0 active nuclear weapons
USA: 4,000 nuclear weapons with additional 200 undeclared Israeli warhead available for instant deployment.


Iran: Truly Possess ICBMs that can reach US Mainland but would take too much hours that the US will detect and shoot it down.
USA: Possess bases that surround and can hit Iranian home territory from North, South, West and East within an hour.



Iran: A dwindling economy that cannot sustain the financing of a large scale war against a thriving economy like US or Isreal.
USA: World's greatest economy would use all its resources to barricade and strangle Iranian economy while bombing Iranian economic Installations into Oblivion.



In all it is ludicrous to think Iran would take a direct attack against America.
However, the US must be very careful of a possible abduction of US military men.



Suffice to say if Iran kills Americans then Iran is looking for big trouble and would empower Trump to go all out. But If Iran Kidnaps American military men or civillians then Trump is in Trouble as Americans would blame him for starting a needless war...


Copied from highered
It's funny how you failed to make sense with your impeccable choice of words.
War is not a game of scores,it is not by numbers so y'all should stop clamouring for war because you don't have anything to lose,people like us that has families and friends at stake knows the danger this events bring.
I don't want to see my family displaced,live in unrest because an egocentric maniac refused to calm down.
Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by maxist2020(m): 7:28pm On Jan 05, 2020
Tetehjewels:
Trump and Pompeo are slowly running mad. Is it the same Iraqi Militia who was instrumental to the destruction of ISIS in Iraq that USA now want to call terrorists?

The same Suleimani along with the kurd forces helped protect about 1million Christians in Syria as he destroyed ISIS in Syria as well is now who USA calls a terrorist?

God is watching. I am a Christian but something about all USA is doing and saying this time is not right
your matter Don tire person, you talk through the anus

Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by Enwhen(m): 7:28pm On Jan 05, 2020
Tetehjewels:


They never went rogue. USA went rogue with this one. The Iraqi Militia has been helping with keeping iraq safe and if you tune in to CNN OR BBC or Aljazeera you will see how Suleimani and and the iraqi Militia are loved in iraq. It is USA they want gone from their land and this is a unified call.


Now u are talking .... On trying to chase the US out of IRAQ and take over the region just same way late Saddam Hussein did , it's what is bringing all these killings joined with the US sanction on IRAN before , IRAN is in control of Syria, Lebanon...the region in general via the cud force... Since the coming of Gen Sule to IRAQ , the US have suffered alots while the Gen Sule led forces continues to gain popularity , it was obvious when the US embassy was burnt and a citizen killed by protesters backed by late Gen Sule force.... U need to studied it very well to know the issues btw US and IRAN, they have been on logger head before this incident , it almost happened when the US accused Tehran behind the bombing of Japan's ship at the Gulf of Oman...it's a long story , don't jump to conclusions yet.. it's also political.
Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by Sirwallace(m): 7:29pm On Jan 05, 2020
Typhoonsbane:
Still don't know when the UN WILL calm down these two babies

the UN is a toothless bulldog which is useless like the p in psychology.
Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by 2chukwu(m): 7:29pm On Jan 05, 2020
BBC AND CNN worst misleading Media in the world, islamIs terrorist organizations!! Tufiakwa
Tetehjewels:


They never went rogue. USA went rogue with this one. The Iraqi Militia has been helping with keeping iraq safe and if you tune in to CNN OR BBC or Aljazeera you will see how Suleimani and and the iraqi Militia are loved in iraq. It is USA they want gone from their land and this is a unified call.

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Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by Qadaffi2idiamin: 7:30pm On Jan 05, 2020
Tetehjewels:
Trump and Pompeo are slowly running mad. Is it the same Iraqi Militia who was instrumental to the destruction of ISIS in Iraq that USA now want to call terrorists?

The same Suleimani along with the kurd forces helped protect about 1million Christians in Syria as he destroyed ISIS in Syria as well is now who USA calls a terrorist?

God is watching. I am a Christian but something about all USA is doing and saying this time is not right
The US knows these Arabs.

They pretend but do worse in shadow. Intelligence gathering may show a different result from your assumption

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Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by SangoOlukosoOba(m): 7:30pm On Jan 05, 2020
Shach:
just imaging the world without America and Israel. some people would have force us to believe in what they believe by fire by force. God bless Israel. God bless America. God please remember nigeria

Oga!

Keep quite please.

You have no idea about what's playing.
Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by tempest01(m): 7:31pm On Jan 05, 2020
Tetehjewels:
Trump and Pompeo are slowly running mad. Is it the same Iraqi Militia who was instrumental to the destruction of ISIS in Iraq that USA now want to call terrorists?

The same Suleimani along with the kurd forces helped protect about 1million Christians in Syria as he destroyed ISIS in Syria as well is now who USA calls a terrorist?

God is watching. I am a Christian but something about all USA is doing and saying this time is not right

Trump is just running wild because of re-election and impeachment.

His actions recently have not been best for USA but for personal gains. Hope it doesn't backfire on him.
Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by Sprumbaba: 7:31pm On Jan 05, 2020
LegendHero:


This is not a matter of education, disprove my facts or bring contrary opinion.

I don't need anyone to spoon-feed me with a video.

LOL. You want people to read your own epistle? You too educate yourself from those that went through the wars you mentioned.

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Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by Jimiyung(m): 7:31pm On Jan 05, 2020
This trump is a joke...
Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by lagdmark(m): 7:31pm On Jan 05, 2020
Tetehjewels:
Trump and Pompeo are slowly running mad. Is it the same Iraqi Militia who was instrumental to the destruction of ISIS in Iraq that USA now want to call terrorists?

The same Suleimani along with the kurd forces helped protect about 1million Christians in Syria as he destroyed ISIS in Syria as well is now who USA calls a terrorist?

God is watching. I am a Christian but something about all USA is doing and saying this time is not right
World leaders in Western countries don't even take Trump serious, Putin is just watching and amusing himself if trump is acting his James bond.
Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by thundafire: 7:32pm On Jan 05, 2020
Tetehjewels:


They never went rogue. USA went rogue with this one. The Iraqi Militia has been helping with keeping iraq safe and if you tune in to CNN OR BBC or Aljazeera you will see how Suleimani and and the iraqi Militia are loved in iraq. It is USA they want gone from their land and this is a unified call.
u ate wrong bro dey Iran's are trying to get a stronghold through proxy ISIS has been decimated and got no power to organize attacks like b4 and don't forget Intels always around to give info
Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by Typhoonsbane: 7:32pm On Jan 05, 2020
Topmaike007:
Putting all the blame on Iran is so bad knowing full well that America are the number one terrorist the world have, they caused trouble all in the name of help...

That was how they killed Gadafi in the name of helping them democratically, now it's now clear about there evil agenda, meaning they masterminded the killing of Gadafi because of his oil

USA is a demonic country, if at all they're killing terrorist what is stopping them from invading Sambisa, no one should tell me that buhari will not cooperate because Iraq and Iran governments did not beg Them to kill soleiman
That soleimani attack was a very wrong call and one can't help but wonder if he did it to shy away from his Democratic woes.even if that man was a terrorist,it is not news that he is well loved and respected in the middle east And there has been no notable accusations against him,by the way he wasn't the only one that got killed in the attack.
Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by Donshel: 7:33pm On Jan 05, 2020
Cool
Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by kingola87(m): 7:33pm On Jan 05, 2020
Richdad50:
shocked

A war scenario between US and Iran will play out like these in the battlefield but, do remembered that it will be remembered as the shortest and most brutal (on one side) conflict in recent history. The US will drag Iran just like a father beats up his neighbors son.

Iran's will first release their first grade missiles (mostly antic Russian missiles and a few SU300 missiles into Isreal and US bases. These missiles will 100% be intercepted by Patriots defense system and the most advanced missile defense system in the world known as the Aegis. With powerful ground base and air missile interceptors, the USA will be able to track, define, and eliminate the direction of the missiles minutes from launch.

Now, the USA will launch their precision (by far the most advanced in the world), laser guided cruise and ballistic (may not need intercontinental)missiles from different launch locations around the middle east. They will hit Iran defense systems, military complexes, strategic posture and positions, energy, and power. Do know that the US have the Russian SU300 in their arsenal strictly for the purpose of testing.

After the heavy bombardment of military positions (not ground troops), the B-1, B-2, F-35 (Fifth generation jets) will enter into the Iranian airspace. They will drop heavy payloads on more Iranian positions until they entire Iranian sky becomes dark with smoke. There will be no day but night for many days in Iran.


Richdad


God of war.

Easier said than done.

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Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by nnaeyes6: 7:33pm On Jan 05, 2020
Tetehjewels:


They never went rogue. USA went rogue with this one. The Iraqi Militia has been helping with keeping iraq safe and if you tune in to CNN OR BBC or Aljazeera you will see how Suleimani and and the iraqi Militia are loved in iraq. It is USA they want gone from their land and this is a unified call.
OGA
Suleimani killed many is Syria. A town in Syria is sharing pancake to celebrate the death of Suleiman and thanking God for sending Trump to kill Suleimani. Funny enough, they are also asking God to kill Assad, their president as if they are praying with Nigerians.

Iraq has two cliques in their Parliament and the most powerful are the Iran's and they are in charge of the country. It might portray that the Iraqis are happy (just like our brainless President that everything he does supporters will hail him). NA lie. The real Iraqis are rejoicing and the media are not covering them. I have watched and listened to ordinary citizens or Iran and Iraq concerning the situation and they are very happy that their nightmare is dead.

Now let me tell u a fact. Suleiman ordered the attack on the US embassy in Iraq a week before he was killed.
Another intelligent undeniable report was that he was trying to attack Americans in American soil and u want Trump to keep numb.
The same Suleimani has been of death row of Americans years back but who to push the botton becomes the problem.


There are so.many things involved in the killing.


The people that were aware of the assassination:

Putin
Congress
Mal lao
Britain

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Re: U.S. Designates Iraqi Shi’ite Militia As Foreign Terrorist Organization by philip0906(m): 7:33pm On Jan 05, 2020
Topmaike007:
Putting all the blame on Iran is so bad knowing full well that America are the number one terrorist the world have, they caused trouble all in the name of help...

That was how they killed Gadafi in the name of helping them democratically, now it's now clear about there evil agenda, meaning they masterminded the killing of Gadafi because of his oil

USA is a demonic country, if at all they're killing terrorist what is stopping them from invading Sambisa, no one should tell me that buhari will not cooperate because Iraq and Iran governments did not beg Them to kill soleiman
You're still wailing here grin

You never see anything grin

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