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Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by LordReed(m): 10:41am On Dec 05, 2010
Trust iice to come up with d flip side lol
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by Ifedisky(m): 12:55pm On Dec 05, 2010
@op, well. . .I think unless a guy is seriously skewed or he has issues against the world and itz people,( it wud be obvious nywayz) he'll never set out to deliberately hurt his beau. Whatever hurt that comes, apart from "paying back" is incidental and wrought by his eagerness to secure, protect and love. They say 'show me a man who tells his gal the truth and I'll show you one who doesn't care for her feelings'. Only "enemies" tell us the truth, friends and lovers lie endlessly caught in the web of duty. My friend dated a gurl that had halitosis and it was killin him for he loved her yet he couldn't bear to tell her for ages. You get the drift? Most heinous crimes guyz commit against women is in the quest to appear perfect. It is cowardly, yes, but until women prove they can deal with truth and reality, they'll keep hearing half truths and lies. It is not ideal, but the general feeling is that women are more comfortable this way. Until there's a redress, men will continue to assume who they're not to get what they want
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by iice(f): 2:11pm On Dec 05, 2010
Ifedisky:

Only "enemies" tell us the truth, friends and lovers lie endlessly caught in the web of duty.

shocked With those kinds of friends. . .no needs enemies lipsrsealed
No wonder the type of wahala people have with their friends
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by Nobody: 4:16pm On Dec 05, 2010
190 & 170 DOdont let the door hit you on the way out  tongue

@Ifedisky so essentially what you are saying is his not telling me about his child and the girl was to protect my feelings? really? or is it that some men want their cake and ice cream too at the expense of another person? hmmm. . .

@Cyber G i understand your point, and I can see how it comes across as biased but that is why I want the view points of men. Some men behave just as demonstrated by 170 and 190 and leave at the sign of a woman's distress, how can you reason with men who interpret your wanting to "level" so to speak as "man bashing"? Alot of women are in pain but keep it on the inside for fear of that type of reaction until they are unable to "take it anymore" and blow up. I am not "blowing up", I am essentially a 'white dwarf', I've blown up, now cooling down and am ready to understand now. And yes the taking of SOME women's virginity to them is like a naive sense of commitment, I have had girl talks where we would "plan" out our lives with the guy, unbeknownst to us he's already moved on. lol yes it's real. Some women even get battered or mentally abused and say "but I love him, he took my virginity!".

@ Deniyor, I have asked myself that question "what is it about me?" and I have come to the conclusion that I loved too hard and too quick. That was MY fault BUT HE played the game, my love for him was genuine. I did EVERYTHING I believed was right. Women love from our core and we make sacrifices because it is what is in us as "nurturers" and unfortunately to some men it is a sign of weakness. Some men would see the woman in tears and asking him "why?" and he'd say "i didnt make you do those things YOU chose to" somehow forgetting the promises he made to her and the "I love you"s. Some men really make women want to physically go upside their head but we dont because we dont want to go to jail it's wrong grin A real man PROTECTS womanhood and PROMOTES manhood. Real men don't play with a woman's emotions!
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by excoba101: 4:35pm On Dec 05, 2010
@Topic

~~~This happen especially when a person is too choosy. When he/she think they are good and choose who to date (this attitude is in different proportion in people and hence we get different measure of such problems as mentioned above your topic) or roll with all the time and do not know when to get chosen by people too.

Sometime he/she do not know how to pour their heart to this guy/girl at the right time, not calculative (this happens when a child is spoilt and think life should go the way they imagined it, always want to have their way: fictions).
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by MrsEve2(f): 5:01pm On Dec 05, 2010
(putting on white coat and tips glasses downward)

Men by nature aren't emotional creatures. They do not express emotionally typically so when we women expect men to be communicators we often get disappointments because men do not communicate verbally rather than physically.

It is important that we women understand the fiber of men because we have to communicate on their level which is like talking to a preschooler. There are ways you can express your feelings to the man without getting that look like what the hell is you talking about woman?

Men have alot on their minds and often time it always filled with what am I going to do to support my family? My wife's birthday coming soon and she pregnant, I mean they are logic beings and the best way to communicate to a man LADIES is be logical and CONCISE. Get to the point! We women like to ramble and ramble until the men shut us out.

Instead of saying the game coming on soon, we may have company, the chicken is cooking, the children is running outside, and the trash is full, SAY in a sweet manner, honey would you take the trash out please and PLEASE SAY THANK YOU AFTERWARD,

Get to the point ladies!
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by excoba101: 5:12pm On Dec 05, 2010
Instead of saying the game coming on soon, we may have company, the chicken is cooking, the children is running outside, and the trash is full, SAY in a sweet manner, honey would you take the trash out please and PLEASE SAY THANK YOU AFTERWARD,


This is one hell of logical comment from madam eve **** I accept your reasoning.
But the one i quoted has a llittle question mark? grin Maybe you should have used other stuff as example. Cuz for me it wont be long before i start rejecting to help you when i notice i have been asked to do that repeatedly no matter how the please please. grin grin grin
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by Ifedisky(m): 5:14pm On Dec 05, 2010
iice:

shocked With those kinds of friends. . .no needs enemies lipsrsealed
No wonder the type of wahala people have with their friends

The sorry reality in black and white
MzDarkSkin:

@Ifedisky[/b] so essentially what you are saying is his not telling me about his child and the girl was to protect my feelings? really? or is it that some men want their cake and ice cream too at the expense of another person? hmmm. . .

If he had told you about it the first time, what chance would you give him? Be real.
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by MrsEve2(f): 5:19pm On Dec 05, 2010
No suga,

If a woman ask a man nicely and CONCISELY to do something a man wouldn't have a problem doing something if he is appreciated. Men thinks with logic reasoning versus emotional reasoning which us women tend to do. We will take the disgusted look as an attitude versus you may have gas where a man would take the same disgusted look and start logically saying maybe she has gas or something is wrong,

Now you see my point?
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by iice(f): 5:21pm On Dec 05, 2010
Ifedisky:

The sorry reality in black and white

Your reality perhaps and only in black
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by Nobody: 5:42pm On Dec 05, 2010
@Ifedisky of course I would have! I was really feeling that dude! Ok well let's get to the specifics I wouldn't reject him if it were JUST the child issue but the fact that he had another woman, you are right. No chance in hell! BUT HE should have been man enough to make the decision and asked himself: "do I want more than one girl? should I bother this girl with my baggage and all or should i think with the RIGHT head and stick to my son's mother?" His holding it out on me is what hurt the most because I essentially fell inlove with a figment of my imagination "the perfect guy".

@Ms. Eve you said
"It is important that we women understand the fiber of men because we have to communicate on their level which is like talking to a preschooler.  There are ways you can express your feelings to the man without getting that look like what the hell is you talking about woman? "

grin true @ bold part. But you are talking about during a SERIOUS relationship, I am discussing men who FEIGN commitment but have intentions on using and decieving. Sure women nag, we do but we have to be WITH to nag @. If the man disappears and hurts us/take advantage of us who can we nag @? my beef is with the men who use and abuse women's emotions. Your argument does pin point their insensitivity but I believe unless you are ready to have these kind of talks with your lady why marry her? you are going to have to live with her "lectures" so if you do not want to hear it why marry her? but that is another issue o.
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by excoba101: 5:43pm On Dec 05, 2010
No suga,

If a woman ask a man nicely and CONCISELY to do something a man wouldn't have a problem doing something if he is appreciated.  Men thinks with logic reasoning versus emotional reasoning which us women tend to do.  We will take the disgusted look as an attitude versus you may have gas where a man would take the same disgusted look and start logically saying maybe she has gas or something is wrong,

Now you see my point?



So logically when you start being nice all of a suden and it has to do with sending me messages repeatedly. Swetie, nba ooO. I can't fit. I will reject sharp sharp.  grin grin

Some women just want to marry , while a few want to build a home. If i am with a girl who wants to build a home, i will never have any problem with her sending me messages because she will never do that in the first place. But haven noticed that she works too much, i will volunteer to help always.

Men are also different from each other.

Eg. I grow up helping muma in the kitchen discussing. So now as a matured young man i enjoy such with a female friends even back in campus, i had flat mates that were females who i begged to prepare meals for me and i stayed with them in the kitchen and discuss(i just love the company). My elder brother was always in the field when the cooking was going on. He might turn out to mean he wouldn't like to help in the kitchen like myself or most home jobs, maybe his is good in another field which i am bad at.

NB: Because i like to help, when i notice i am been asked to always. I feel you are taking advantage of it. Problem might creep in from there.
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by Ifedisky(m): 5:46pm On Dec 05, 2010
iice:

Your reality perhaps and only in black
Maybe. Denial is bliss though grin
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by Nobody: 5:49pm On Dec 05, 2010
excoba101:




So logically when you start being nice all of a suden and it has to do with sending me messages repeatedly. Swetie, nba ooO. I can't fit. I will reject sharp sharp. grin grin

Some women just want to marry , while a few want to build a home. If i am with a girl who wants to build a home, i will never have any problem with her sending me messages because she will never do that in the first place. But haven noticed that she works too much, i will volunteer to help always.

Men are also different from each other.

Eg. I grow up helping muma in the kitchen discussing. So now as a matured young man i enjoy such with a female friends even back in campus, i had flat mates that were females who i begged to prepare meals for me and i stayed with them in the kitchen and discuss(i just love the company). My elder brother was always in the field when the cooking was going on. He might turn out to mean he wouldn't like to help in the kitchen like myself or most home jobs, maybe his is good in another field which i am bad at.

NB: Because i like to help, when i notice i am been asked to always. I feel you are taking advantage of it. Problem might creep in from there.

For the fact that i enjoy these things, i also know that it was my mother all the way in the kitchen. So i could be looking for a girl that is much like her.

so in essence Excoba101 you are a "Muma Lashy", spending all of that time engaging in your mother's conversations as a youngster grin. That explains it.
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by MrsEve2(f): 5:59pm On Dec 05, 2010
Excoba,

Wife and husband should be nice to each other FROM THE GET GO, if you are only nice to your mate when you want something, THEN SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU,
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by Nobody: 6:02pm On Dec 05, 2010
@Ms. Eve GBAM!
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by iice(f): 6:14pm On Dec 05, 2010
Ifedisky:

Maybe. Denial is bliss though grin

Hardly. . .but then again many like their fake friends grin grin
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by Ifedisky(m): 6:22pm On Dec 05, 2010
iice:

Hardly. . .but then again many like their fake friends grin grin
Absolutely! I hear thatz a widespread female phenomena grin
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by Nobody: 6:27pm On Dec 05, 2010
here we go again with another topic where men are being dehumanized. well, here is my own contribution to this question.

in my first year in school, i fell helplessly in love with a lady in the same class, and i didnt care even though my friends called her "fat". well, to cut the long story short, after i had spent all my pocket money on her and showered her with love, she chose to dump me for an older guy in a higher level.

well, after the period of loss, i totally flipped out and began to see (and pesently see) women as objects of sexual gratification. its my fault if i cant control myself and treat ladies like trash, but im not wholly to blame, am i? what i got after showing all the love i could was being dumped like a used underwear.

sorry ladied, if men treat you like trash, there might just be a reason for it.

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Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by excoba101: 6:30pm On Dec 05, 2010
here we go again with another topic where men are being dehumanized. well, here is my own contribution to this question.

in my first year in school, i fell helplessly in love with a lady in the same class, and i didnt care even though my friends called her "fat". well, to cut the long story short, after i had spent all my pocket money on her and showered her with love, she chose to dump me for an older guy in a higher level.

well, after the period of loss, i totally flipped out and began to see (and pesently see) women as objects of sexual gratification. its my fault if i cant control myself and treat ladies like trash, but im not wholly to blame, am i? what i got after showing all the love i could was being dumped like a used underwear.

sorry ladied, if men treat you like trash, there might just be a reason for it.



It goes both ways. This problem will never end.
Vanity upon Vanity, All is Vanity.
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by iice(f): 6:32pm On Dec 05, 2010
Ifedisky:

Absolutely! I hear thatz a widespread female phenomena grin

If you only knew grin grin
But i'll leave out the celly and the telly which is a staple on nl ahehehehehehehe grin grin
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by Ifedisky(m): 6:40pm On Dec 05, 2010
iice:

If you only knew grin grin
But i'll leave out the celly and the telly which is a staple on nl ahehehehehehehe grin grin

The choice remains ur prerogative ma'am. Choose wisely though so you don't jeopardise your first call. Or you're not THE nl anymore? ROFL grin grin cool
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by Nobody: 6:53pm On Dec 05, 2010
Pornodude:

here we go again with another topic where men are being dehumanized. well, here is my own contribution to this question.

in my first year in school, i fell helplessly in love with a lady in the same class, and i didnt care even though my friends called her "fat". well, to cut the long story short, after i had spent all my pocket money on her and showered her with love, she chose to dump me for an older guy in a higher level.

well, after the period of loss, i totally flipped out and began to see (and pesently see) women as objects of sexual gratification. its my fault if i cant control myself and treat ladies like trash, but im not wholly to blame, am i? what i got after showing all the love i could was being dumped like a used underwear.

sorry ladied, if men treat you like trash, there might just be a reason for it.

And this is coming from a man whose UN is PORNOdude. . .wow lipsrsealed I dont know if i should slap u or give you a hug lol. seriously i amn not trying to dehumanize men I am rather, trying to understand them.

I dont remember who but someone made and excellent point about men giving up and avoiding pain quicker than women. I find that to very very true but men should realise not everyone wants to just be a "fck buddy" until you learn to trust again. It's not fair.
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by excoba101: 6:56pm On Dec 05, 2010
. . . in a shabby Way. undecided
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by Nobody: 7:12pm On Dec 05, 2010
MzDarkSkin:

And this is coming from a man whose UN is PORNOdude. . .wow lipsrsealed I dont know if[b] i should slap u or give you a hug[/b] lol. seriously i amn not trying to dehumanize men I am rather, trying to understand them.

I dont remember who but someone made and excellent point about men giving up and avoiding pain quicker than women. I find that to very very true but men should realise not everyone wants to just be a "fck buddy" until you learn to trust again. It's not fair.

pls a hug would be the better option.

as for understanding men, we too are trying to understand you folks as well. it would be nice if most of the time you ladies try to verbalize in simple terms, exactly what you want and require of us, rather than keep long periods of complicated silence. i believe effective communication would go a long way besides the frequent body languages ladies are apt to use.
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by Nobody: 7:15pm On Dec 05, 2010
@ OP
if i may ask~
what are the needs of a woman?
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by excoba101: 7:26pm On Dec 05, 2010
They don't even know. They need an expert to tell them, they read novels and mags to know.

Just as weather changes, so are their needs.   grin grin

Sorry, i mean (some of) the kind of women we have these day. The Y2Ks.  grin
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by Nobody: 7:32pm On Dec 05, 2010
@poster- i need to know answers to the following questions. i would appreciate it if you could help me out

1. why does hearing the words "i love you". seem so important to a lady? for us guys, the whole "i love you" business begins to get boring after about a week or two, or after he has had sex. but for a lady, she always needs to hear it.

2. why does being in a relationship, loving and sharing, etc seem so important to a lady though to we guys, it seems having great sex is paramount to any other thing in a relationship.

3. why do ladies place sex second to love and affections? it is the opposite with guys.

4. once ladies feel that a guy just wants to use them as a fork buddy, it hurts them so much. even though the guy might not necessary see them as such and might just be trying to satisfy his immediate urges.

5. no matter what heights a lady has achieved professionally, she is not fully happy until she has married (even though the man is not financially and professionally up to her standard).

pls these are qusetions which baffle me abt ladies and their behaviour, thanks poster.
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by Yorisb: 7:40pm On Dec 05, 2010
excoba101:

They don't even know. They need an expert to tell them, they read novels and mags to know.

Just as weather changes, so is their needs.   grin grin

Sorry, i mean (some of) the kind of women we have these day. The Y2Ks.  grin

Baba Excoba, you can say that again. grin [s]I've never seen dafter and more confused creature(s)[/s] lipsrsealed. Indeed, I've seen it all in 'em hence I GIVE UP! angry




Chin Chin!
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by Mygoldie(f): 7:44pm On Dec 05, 2010
^^ you are so wrapped up in your own world, innit?






Chin Chin tongue tongue
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by kmoneyE(m): 7:49pm On Dec 05, 2010
Yoris big congratulations  for being able to convince[b] Goldie[/b] to eat that your Chin Chin*** big up bros wink
Re: Why Are Guys So. . . by Mygoldie(f): 8:02pm On Dec 05, 2010
^^ he keeps ignoring me, dunno why.lol.he must be a very angry fellow.

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