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Re: Entrepreneurs Are Ruining Morales Of Employees by ghiloman28(m): 1:07pm On Jan 21, 2020 |
Re: Entrepreneurs Are Ruining Morales Of Employees by pmoye(m): 4:37pm On Jan 21, 2020 |
It is turn by turn. Your turn will come. You will have your own company, and then we'll all see what you'll do better. ImaIma1: |
Re: Entrepreneurs Are Ruining Morales Of Employees by Bigval5: 5:28pm On Jan 21, 2020 |
LewsTherin: Thank God you said "Guess " |
Re: Entrepreneurs Are Ruining Morales Of Employees by ImaIma1(f): 7:19pm On Jan 21, 2020 |
pmoye: I know the ones that don't owe no matter what. Those are the people I aspire to be like...people with conscience and integrity. Those types would rather tell you to go rather than stay and be owed. That the staff would not even want to leave. Or are you not aware that there are people like that? It's not about setting up office and employing people. It has to be sustainable. Some people just jump into it prematurely and start frustrating their employees. 3 Likes |
Re: Entrepreneurs Are Ruining Morales Of Employees by pmoye(m): 7:59pm On Jan 21, 2020 |
I wrote what I wrote because I both understand your experience and that of your former employers. I have bosses at the place of my work. But I also have a CAC incorporated company with 12 employees. And I know that no matter how good and considerate the boss is, there are more employees who see their job as no more than an opportunity to get paid regardless of whether or not they are productive. I hardly waste time in showing these individuals, which sadly are in the majority, the way out. My pay structure is directly tied to productivity. I have a core pay that I remunerate a particular position with, and their salary increment is directly linked to how productive they each are as determined both by customer feedback and sales report. I do this to make them realize that my staff's financial promotion is directly tied to the profit we make as a company. Yes, I also know that there are so many horrible bosses out there. Perhaps I am also horrible to a staff that finds it difficult to be responsible for the profit of the company. And no, I NEVER owe my staff salary. God forbid. I didn't mean to minimize your experience at all, I only tried to point it out that once roles are reversed and you are the boss, you will understand what several employers face. ImaIma1: 1 Like |
Re: Entrepreneurs Are Ruining Morales Of Employees by harbarzzy(m): 9:03pm On Jan 21, 2020 |
ImaIma1:I did 3 months without pay..He even sent police to my House and they searched hoping they could get something to implicate me because I becoming like a threat to him.. before anything the man will say Jesus must come first..Fela said it |
Re: Entrepreneurs Are Ruining Morales Of Employees by TEYA: 9:10pm On Jan 21, 2020 |
Freiburger:It is your type that trick fools into business. Many employees will do better than most so called employers of labour. Just over broke my foot! 1 Like |
Re: Entrepreneurs Are Ruining Morales Of Employees by CeterisXVII: 12:16am On Jan 22, 2020 |
LewsTherin:If half of your staff disappear after receiving their first salary, then check yourself. How are you treating them? Did you humiliate and insult them, under the guise of correcting them? Or did you make false promises to them when hiring them? Or did you simply make an error of judgement, in hiring the wrong kind of people to work for you? There is something called recruitment error. Do a root cause analysis. I have a client who promised a new staff of his, that she could close at 4p.m each day, since she was a nursing mother, whose child was less than 4 months old. She agreed and eagerly took the job. From her 3rd day at work till end of the month, she was made to close at 7p.m each day. She did not have anyone to help her, except an elderly nanny who also had to go home early. She reported to the MD several times, but he did nothing. At the end of the month, she just collected her pay and left. Her child's health and safety, was more important than anything else. Sometimes, new staff see the deplorable way that older staff are treated, and they tell themselves that they cannot tolerate the bad conditions, under which the older staff are working. You see some staff that have been there for 3-5 years looking like destitutes, and then they tell the new staff about how mean and horrible the management acts, towards them. Do you think the new staff will stay, when they see that your company is a dead end? Nobody needs to tell them that there is no future, in your company.... 1 Like |
Re: Entrepreneurs Are Ruining Morales Of Employees by ImaIma1(f): 12:20am On Jan 22, 2020 |
pmoye: I get your point. And sometimes in the year business could be slow. But I am talking about bosses who put paying salaries at the bottom of the chain which comes after overseas leisure trips, new cars and acquisitions, etc. 2 Likes |
Re: Entrepreneurs Are Ruining Morales Of Employees by blazerzz: 12:22am On Jan 22, 2020 |
Lazy employees, 99% of them only think of how to fraud, steal and crumble your biz 100% of the tym. do you have any idea of what it takes to run a successful business in this gadamm country. Every true entreprenuer knows how to retain an compensate their bst employees. |
Re: Entrepreneurs Are Ruining Morales Of Employees by CeterisXVII: 12:24am On Jan 22, 2020 |
pmoye: blazerzz:Oga, stop it! Some of us have done both. We have been employees in the past, as well as employers of labour. Please note: many MSME and SME business owners are bad. They are bad at management, bad at handling funds, poor at managing relationships, lousy at seeking knowledge, but very good at cheating their staff, and humiliating them. Yet, they want their businesses to succeed. Many local employers do NOT know how to retain and compensate staff. They classify everyone as cheats, meanwhile they are often the architect of their own problems. I worked with an SME during youth corps. My boss was the best boss I have ever worked with till date. He treated us so well, with honesty, transparency and utmost respect, that when he didn't have salaries to pay us, we gladly used our own money to keep his business running. Unfortunately, his clients kept owing him left, right and centre. The day the bank came to close down his office over unpaid debts, we gathered outside the gate, crying for him. For months, we were visiting him at home, praying that God will help him reopen his business. Finally, he relocated abroad. That was many years ago. Today, we are still in touch on WhatsApp and social media. 2 Likes |
Re: Entrepreneurs Are Ruining Morales Of Employees by holatunde1759(m): 6:25am On Jan 22, 2020 |
Nothing beats freedom and peace of mind. If you're not getting both, leave! You will not die. The street gat you. |
Re: Entrepreneurs Are Ruining Morales Of Employees by pmoye(m): 10:42am On Jan 22, 2020 |
I agree with you 100% on the points raised. I am not making excuses for bad leadership, but at the same time some of us too will admit that as much as we have bad bosses we have bad employees as well. I happen to have cause to also work from time to time at an office outside Nigeria, and in my team at the office I have another Nigerian there. This is not a joke: any day the Oga at the top is away for some official engagements this guy does not show up at the office. He one time invited me to join some of his friends on a Friday to a pub visit out of town. I was shocked, told him we have to be at the office, and he thought I had this disposition towards work because I belong to the management staff. He simply advised me to go to the office the Friday morning, clock in with my magnetic card and leave for the pub visit. That I could only return later at night to the office to clock out. I didn't even know how to reply him than to express the sentiment that he had exported his laziness to Europe. But yes, there are bad leaders, but sometimes it also depends on the employee one asks. ImaIma1: 1 Like |
Re: Entrepreneurs Are Ruining Morales Of Employees by IamOmashola: 3:37pm On Jan 22, 2020 |
Gerrard59: These things are not that straightforward. Some employers are just plain wicked and heartless. A company in Lagos used to pay Engineers 40-60k. The Engineers kept pleading for a raise but were always met with, "if you can't take it, tender your resignation" Later on, they lost one of their major contracts to another company. The other company started poaching their Engineers offering them N200,000 naira monthly so they started leaving one after the other. The first company offered the Engineers a raise but none of them took it. They hurriedly reviewed the salary of the Engineers still with them and increased it from between 40-60k to 100-150k. They have been paying this reviewed salary for a little over two years. Where did they suddenly get the money from? This was a case of a company that could clearly afford to pay more but deliberately decided not to. 2 Likes |
Re: Entrepreneurs Are Ruining Morales Of Employees by Gerrard59(m): 4:00pm On Jan 22, 2020 |
IamOmashola: It's good the firm lost out of everything. My post was based on firms willing to pay well but don't have the funds to. However, tight fisted companies would lose in the long run in terms of skilled personnel if they deliberately refuse to adjust to the market. But looking at it again, it boils down to demand and supply. 1 Like |
Re: Entrepreneurs Are Ruining Morales Of Employees by africandollar: 8:03pm On Jan 30, 2020 |
Chrisakuneme:You hit the nail on the head with that statement...it’s just a matter of choice so the OP should quit complaining and suck it up else put it up. 1 Like |
Re: Entrepreneurs Are Ruining Morales Of Employees by africandollar: 8:07pm On Jan 30, 2020 |
ImaIma1: You don’t get the point, my response was to the OP complaining not a cry for everyone to become business owners. If you can’t stand working as an employee for a one-man company in Nigeria then it’s either you resign and seek for employment elsewhere, suck it up while seeking for employment elsewhere or start your business. 1 Like |
Re: Entrepreneurs Are Ruining Morales Of Employees by AlphaSoul: 10:47am On Feb 07, 2021 |
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Re: Entrepreneurs Are Ruining Morales Of Employees by Historicalee: 2:23am On Feb 08, 2021 |
This is the reason why straightforward employers should employ diligent youthful workers like me. If you're based abroad and you need a good manager or partner for your business, contact me. I belong to the 1%. |
Re: Entrepreneurs Are Ruining Morales Of Employees by Angelinvestor1: 10:15am On Mar 30, 2021 |
I am an Angel investor that would like to invest on 2 budding entrepreneurs. If you have a good business idea and plan, I might invest in it. You must be based in Ogun state and preferably in the Sango/Agbara/Atan/Lusada/Owode area. You will need to pitch your idea to me via zoom or Google meet. As a start for your business idea, there is a building on a plot of land with a 30KVA and 15KVA generators with a borehole. Several machinery including: MiG/TiG welding machines Industrial hot car washing machines A photo of building is attached here. A maximum of 2 entrepreneurs needed. No specific educational qualification is needed. Minimum investment is 1.5 million naira per entrepeneur. If you have any shady ideas, do not bother contacting me as you will be found out. Thanks @AngelInvestor1 1 Like
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