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|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Maximus69(m): 8:21am On Mar 19|
Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa bro Tatime,
But rather say "thanks to JEHOVAH, our Almighty instructor who is teaching us to BENEFIT ourselves in the midst of this hopeless generation of miscreants"! Isaiah 48:17-18
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by MuttleyLaff: 8:28am On Mar 19|
TATIME:Wow, you this TATIME guy, you're really good at this JW public relations practition spinning thing sha. Just watching you scramble to continually do damage limitation/control when your sheeple/zombie ordering about hold, are unfolded with that zombie tune is quiet very entertaining to read
TATIME, remember that Fela, Abami ẹda, RIP, is making a distinction between zombie soldier and the regular honours decorated soldier. The difference is obvious and clear. Please dont pull wool over people's eyes
Oops, whats the matter?
TATIME, you like as if it's suddenly turned into a hot potato dropped the CHRISTIANS label, lol. Why now TATIME? Arent you anymore proud of being a CHRISTIAN ni, lol? Whats yours type TATIME, lol, is it Antioch or Constantine Christian, lol?
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:09pm On Mar 19|
Truth is always bitter and difficult to accept.
Christianity did not just appear from nothing, it evolved from ancient religion, adopted divinities of the Canaanites, and rebranded the text from ancient sacred books. Ugarit text is one of those books.
Please read more about the Ugarit text on here http://www.theology.edu/ugarbib.htm
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:17pm On Mar 19|
Are you surprised bro? Well you might not have known the person called Maximus69, who posted the fabulous tale About Omoluwabi. He is popular here and known for been a liar and very dishonest person.
I now begin to think, that Max has nothing in his head except maybe fables. He professed that he was a former military intelligence officer, but I haven't found any intelligence in his posts on this thread.
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Dantedasz(m): 1:06pm On Mar 19|
I actually know him.
I just feel it is a waste of time responding to religionists. So I prefer just posting memes than writing.
A discussion with a religionist is a complete waste of time akin to slamming your head on a brick wall. I really admire the patience of people like Lordreed.
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by FOLYKAZE(m): 2:01pm On Mar 19|
Sigidi se'tan ati te, oni kiwon gbe oun re odo lo re we. Muttleylaff, we would need your service in translating those words for Max. At a time like this, when revisionists take it upon themselves to rewrite history and distort facts, the rightful son of the soil must be there to iron out the facts, and separate truth from lies.
Maximus69 churned out wrong translation of the word Omoluwabi to Omo ti Luwa bi. The wrong translation, either it is what he cooked up or truly heard from his Granny, has not only misled him but left him more confounded, whereby he carved out from his imagination a person called Luwa who lived in the distance past among the Yoruba people.
It is important for people to know that there is no one either in the past or present that bears the name Luwa. That is only the figment of Imagination of Mr Max. Secondly, that Yoruba language personifies almost every thing, 'omo' in Omoluwabi doesn't mean Luwa is a person.
The rightful translation of the word 'Omoluwabi' is rightly provided by Lordreed as "the baby begotten by the chief of iwa". With the rightful translation, one can then identify who and what is Iwa and the chief of Iwa.
Iwa is character, and according to Ifa, Iwa is a young beautiful lady, daughter of Suuru (Patience), granddaughter of Eledumare. The general understanding of the Yoruba people is Suuru ni baba Iwa (Patience is the father of character). Iwa is married to Orunmila, the divinity of wisdom. And according to tradition, the husband, oko olowo ori iyawo, is the olu/olori or lord of the wife. In view of this, Orunmila (wisdom) is the Lord/chief of Iwa (character). Omoluwabi simply mean a person who embodies wisdom, the chief of character.
According to Ifa, Orunmila separated from Iwa. And Iwa returned to Eledumare in Orun. After she left, life became unbearable and chaotic to Orunmila.
bi Iwa ba nu eeyan
eyin o mo pe ayee re lo nu un
since Iwa left Orunmila and life became unbearable for him, he sort to get his wife back, and he found her in Eledumare house. Unfortunately, Iwa insisted she won't return to Orunmila house. She told Orunmila, 'lo fi owo ara re tun iwa re se'. Ifa added;
ibinu ko da nnkan kan fun ni.
Suuru ni baba iwa
Agba t'o ni suuru.
Ohun gbogbo lo ko ja
A difa fun Orunmila
Ifa n sawoo lo Iwo Ate
Iya ti Ifa je n'Iwo
Lo bako, lo babo
Ifa here informed us again that Suuru is Iwa's father, and Orunmila is her husband. Ifa also inform us that Orunmila and Iwa settled in Iwo, and he suffered during the course of their marriage. This is why wives are called Iyawo (Iya iwo meaning the suffering in Iwo). In the marriage, they bore two children, a boy and a girl (Iwa rere and Iwa buburu).
Iwa rere represent truth, honesty, compassion and unconditional love. Ifa says thus;
O le gbe ni juka o
Mo l'o le gbe ni juka
Otito, mo l'o le gbeni juka
Ifa is saying here that in standing firm in truth, one may face challenges and overwhelming difficulties.
Iwa buburu bores Gossip, stealing, betrayer and wickedness.
Ifa went thus saying;
Ofofo ni i peru
Epe, won a si pole
Iledida ni i pore
Alajobi ni i payekan t'o sebi
A jo g'bori ile a jeku
A jo g'bori ile, a jeja
A jo g'bori ile, a je koko igbin
Ase d'owo ile, a jo mu.
Ifa explicitly explain that both Iwa rere and buburu would coexist, and it takes only wisdom to keep harmony between the two sides. There are repercussions for choosing Iwa rere or buburu. Iwa buburu attracts the wrathful punishment from Orisa; Iwa rere attracts difficulties too but must be endured with persistent patience for the world to become a better place. Most important Ifa emphasize on Iwa Pele (peaceful disposition) and wisdom to keep harmony and averting chaos. This is why Iwa is described as a woman who should be religiously cared for.
Ifa wrapped it up with this verse;
Ba a lowo
Ba a niwa
Owo olowo ni.
Iwa, Iwa la n wa
Omo l'a bi, ta a niwa
Omo olomo ni
Iwa, Iwa la n wa.
Meaning, if one own all the riches and bore many children, without good character, all the person have is vanity. And the only way of attaining good character is wisdom of balance both forced.
Bible corroborate; Ecclesiastes 7:11-12 New International Version (NIV)
11. Wisdom, like an inheritance, is a good thing
and benefits those who see the sun.
Wisdom is a shelter
12 as money is a shelter,
but the advantage of knowledge is this:
Wisdom preserves those who have it.
The word Omoluwabi is deeper than anyone thought. it is philosophical. There is no one that bears Luwa as Maximus69 posited. Iwa is simply Character, daughter of Suuru (Patience) and wife of Orunmila (wisdom). These three characters are not human. Omoluwabi is the person who embodies Iwa. Yoruba people would say, bibire ko se fi owo ra loja. Iwa is divine, and can be attracted with wisdom (the lord/chief of Iwa)
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by FOLYKAZE(m): 2:09pm On Mar 19|
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by FOLYKAZE(m): 2:15pm On Mar 19|
Your inputs exposes how foolish and dishonest you are
Ecclesiastes 10:13 King James Version (KJV)
The beginning of the words of his mouth is foolishness: and the end of his talk is mischievous madness.
Oduduwa does not have relationship with Lamurudu nonsense. Information about who he is, where he came from and how he got to Ife is in Ifa. One can only wait for archaeological evidences to prove the historicity of Oduduwa.
Oduduwa is the personification of dark matter.
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 2:27pm On Mar 19|
LoLz! I know I am like talking to a brick wall sometimes but the comedy gold some of these guys throw up is hard to pass up.
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by FOLYKAZE(m): 2:36pm On Mar 19|
The bible explicitly defined pure religion in James 1:27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world. It didn't say true religion is Christianity or JW only. I remember the good Samaritan story here.
Was it me that said you must eat, drink and enjoy life? The bible said exactly that says
Ecclesiastes 9:5-10 New International Version (NIV)
5. For the living know that they will die,
but the dead know nothing;
they have no further reward,
and even their name is forgotten.
6. Their love, their hate
and their jealousy have long since vanished;
never again will they have a part
in anything that happens under the sun.
7. Go, eat your food with gladness, and drink your wine with a joyful heart, for God has already approved what you do.
8. Always be clothed in white, and always anoint your head with oil.
9. Enjoy life with your wife, whom you love, all the days of this meaningless life that God has given you under the sun—all your meaningless days. For this is your lot in life and in your toilsome labor under the sun
10. Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom.
Matthew 6:25-34 New International Version (NIV)
Do Not Worry
“Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they? Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life ?
“And why do you worry about clothes? See how the flowers of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you—you of little faith? So do not worry, saying, ‘What shall we eat?’ or ‘What shall we drink?’ or ‘What shall we wear?’ For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them.
But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
If the Bible could corroborate with my submission, it means you are fighting your own shadow. You don't understand your own bible self.
Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.
What do you even know?
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by MuttleyLaff: 2:45pm On Mar 19|
FOLYKAZE:Baba, Abọru, Aboye, Abọsise ooo.
"Plenty plenty, Alfa, ti onirugbọ. Woli, ti o mọ Ọlọrun, is like the case of Maximus69's lacking intelligence, wuruwuru to the answer gimmick. O fẹ fiyẹn kowa jẹ. Ẹtẹ dẹ, lo nma ngbẹhin, iru gbogbo wọn, bẹyẹn. Ẹyi o nse epe ooo. Ootọ kikoro ni. Iyawo sọ iwa nu, o ni oun, o mu, ọri oko waiye. Hmm, abọ ọrọ la nsọ fun Ọmọluabi, bi abi ti, o ba de inu ẹ, a di odidi."
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by TATIME: 3:28pm On Mar 19|
I use to think that Maximus was bragging whenever he's talking about intelligence, but now i'm giving my brother a kudos for proving himself! Maximus actually said an intelligent person will never tell you that you're lying but with thought provoking questions you'll loose your balance before everyone and you'll not know when or where the lies are protruding from!
Maximus69 always say "Frustration comes when you're battling to refute what is obvious or when you're struggling to establish what is not true".
He said you (LordReed) is a Yoruba man, you denied and Maximus never said you lied instead he kept discussing with you until you forgetfully typed in Yoruba, he reminded you and you said it's Google magic still Maximus never said you lied, now after some time you forgetfully typed another phrase in Yoruba, and again this wizard called Maximus never said you lied but tactfully asked you a question about what you typed whether it's another Google magic as usual. Then you began saying "dumb him, dumb her"!
Please Professor give my brother Maximus a standing ovation in honour of a higher intellect, he just proved his worth to you. I hope you still remember what Yorubas do call the child who disown his heritage? Well judge that for yourself or ask Google as usual to tell you what Yorubas do call a fugitive who shamelessly disown his heritage publicly!
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 3:44pm On Mar 19|
OMFG! Bwahahahahahaha! Chei! So there are people this ignorant of technology using the internet? LWKMD! Dantedasz can you see this comedy gold right here? I quote a website and our comedian here thinks it proves I am Yoruba. Bwahahahaha! OMFD!
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Maximus69(m): 3:44pm On Mar 19|
I've already told you that if it's you (FOLYKAZE)
You've won whether it's
So you need not worry yourself anymore about someone who has wholeheartedly given you the trophy even before anything.
I said the one i love chatting with is LordReed NOT you FOLYKAZE.
Haba! you've won everything long ago not even now Sir, once again i wish you success in your mission!
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Maximus69(m): 3:48pm On Mar 19|
Chai Chai Chai!
Bro Tatime, you've spoil my show o!
Now you will not allow him to continue his lie lie again now that you've shown him where i'm pushing him to!
Ooooooooo you've spoil my show jare!
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 3:50pm On Mar 19|
Let me also translate in Hausa and Igbo so that it proves that I am Hausa and Igbo too. Bwahahahahahaha!
Me kwa ka m tugharia ya na asusu bekee na asusu Igbo ka o gosi na abum onye Hausa na ndi Igbo. Bwahahahahahaha!
Bari kuma in fassara a Hausa da Igbo domin ya tabbatar da cewa ni ma Ni Hausawa ne kuma Igbo. Bwahahahahahaha!
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Maximus69(m): 3:55pm On Mar 19|
Sorry jare, he's not used to the internet like that.
So you actually quote a website that translated OMOLÚWÀBÍ into English even explaining in details each Yorùbá word to fully translate everything!
Never mind Tatime, i Maximus believe (trust) you jare!
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 3:57pm On Mar 19|
Bwahahahaha! OMFG! Which village are you people living in please let's send anthropologist to come and study you. LMFAO!
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by TATIME: 4:01pm On Mar 19|
Please i'm sorry bro!
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by TATIME: 4:05pm On Mar 19|
Maximus already said it that you're just beating about the bush with no specific destination! So never mind again, keep your knowledge for your online students!
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by TATIME: 4:11pm On Mar 19|
Maximus69 is just too much for you!
Keep denying your heritage, after all it's the Google that told you the full meaning of OMOLÚWÀBÍ right!
"Nigba ti awon omo oko ba nsoro, omo ale naa a yoju, sugbon to ba t'asiko, omo ale a fi ara e han!"
Maximus said we should believe (trust) whatever you say about yourself for the main time!
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Maximus69(m): 4:23pm On Mar 19|
That's too hash.
But since he said he's not Yorùbá, there is no need dragging this with him.
He may come from anywhere he likes, what really baffles me is the internet setting that's so effective to the point of translating "OMOLÚWÀBÍ" and explaining in full details to Professor Chinedu or Professor Aboki!
I think i need to learn how to use that type of internet from him, so i too can translate Shinto's heritage in Chinese language. After all the Chinese language has been on Google/internet before Yorùbá!
Òpònú Òpùró Olódo Omo àlè!
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 4:29pm On Mar 19|
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by MuttleyLaff: 4:31pm On Mar 19|
Maximus69, is that so dishonest and untrustworthy that after him saying good morning and shaking my hand, I'll have to count all my fingers at end of it, to make sure they all are still intact there, lol.
What is wrong is telling your lackey off that he was wrong in advancing that his grandma's child given version tale of what "omoluabi" means erhn? Smh.
Now talking of LordReed's heritage, that was how this same Maximus69 was ascribing a female status to a certain Lawani, who is male and even pasted on his Profile Page his passport showing every details picture, sex and all about you, but oh no, Mr Maximus69 till tomorrow still insists Lawani is female.
Anyone long enough on Nairaland and with an iota of intelligence knows this much about LordReed that he is not Yoruba, but is Edo, somewhat like cousin to Yoruba, lol. C'mon now. What's the matter with you two guys playing clowns. This isn't funny anymore ojaare.
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 4:33pm On Mar 19|
Instead of all this noise, just say teach me, its free of charge. Bwahahahahaha!
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Maximus69(m): 4:52pm On Mar 19|
I thought you often say you believe in evidence!
There is no evidence of your search engine in the translation of OMOLÚWÀBÍ and the story that leads to the adage in all of these my guy so stop deceiving your own soul!
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Maximus69(m): 4:55pm On Mar 19|
Through with you!
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by MuttleyLaff: 5:03pm On Mar 19|
Maximus69:"Ashiri tu". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omoluwabi is LordReed's source of information
Maximus69:If you really had any iota of intelligence through you, you would have found out that the first Google search will bring up a Wikipedia page as a first choice result, which is from where LordReed copied all that he posted here about "omoluabi".
Smh. Continue smirking in blissful ignorance. You think you're doing me, not knowing you're doing yourself, lol. That JW frown and/or embargo on furthering education beyound secondary level surely isnt imho a good and/or wise idea. Chai, you guys have been scammed, lol. No wonder dumbness prevails
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 5:14pm On Mar 19|
Check the post again there is a link to the website. I told you not to let dumbness overtake you today but you disappointed yourself. See yasef. SMH. LWKMD!
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by LordReed(m): 5:39pm On Mar 19|
Funny enough I knew at least 1 JW in University back in the day. I wonder how he escaped that particular stricture.
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by TATIME: 5:43pm On Mar 19|
My guy, just a standing ovation for someone much more intelligent than you that's all!
Nothing is attached to it as in NOTHING at stake. Maximus69 just caught your stupid ass in a trap within just few days!
Imagine someone is talking about HIs OWN HERITAGE, and you who claims not to have come from the same tribe just jumped desperately at it TO CORRECT HIM IN HIS OWN HERITAGE!
Now you're LYING trying to say the internet did all that for you!
My friend oolojuti rara, oju gba miti fun e gan ni!
Maximus, Twale my brother!
You really made me feel like going for the military intelligence just for six months training!
|Re: Historicity Of The Bible And Justification Of Christian Faith by Maximus69(m): 5:48pm On Mar 19|
Bro Tatime, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!
He is a stupid lying idiot of no shame, so the honesty he spoke of at first is clearly not in his blood!
Now i'm through with him!
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