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Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by ogbonti: 8:51am On Feb 15
oz4real83:
Fulanis are openly flaunting and killing with illegal arms while those that want to legally apply for license to bear arms to defend themselves are made to pass through hell to get permission. This is the country we find ourselves.



just imagine what Buhari has turned Nigeria into.. when the US gets tough with us. we scream. who wants a fulani herdsman terrorist; mass murderer and rapist to freely apply for a US visa and stroll into the US? just because Nigeria can’t verify such persons through a comprehensive background check in a centralized citizen database

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Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by Firstorderwizard(m): 8:51am On Feb 15
E cry
Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by gbagyiza: 8:55am On Feb 15
oz4real83:
Fulanis are openly flaunting and killing with illegal arms while those that want to legally apply for license to bear arms to defend themselves are made to pass through hell to get permission. This is the country we find ourselves.

This people r trying their best to frustrate this security outfit. I am not surprised the Fulani's keep saying that they own Nigeria.
Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by MelesZenawi: 8:55am On Feb 15
Dead outfit
Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by okefranci: 8:56am On Feb 15
The best thing is to have a gun license by the federal government to curb the insecurity in the land because most of these enemies have strong amulations
Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by Jakumo(m): 8:56am On Feb 15
The essence of this flawed bid by Nigerian federal government spokesmen to regulate the varieties of personal weapons that would be carried by regional vigilante groups like the newly established Amotekun group in the south west, is that the federal government seeks to hijack the laws applicable ONLY for the regulation of CIVILIAN gun ownership, to the instance of statewide paramilitary groups whose role clearly falls within the realm of both military and law enforcement response tasking.

The quotation of statues relating to civilian gun ownership, by federal government spokespeople, is from a legal standpoint, of ZERO relevance with respect to the arming of ANY state OR federal law enforcement agency, since the weaponry carried by trained service personnel, is determined within the context of the anticipated mission emphasis, and theaters of deployment envisioned for specific military units, and NOT on the politically-motivated, legally unsound, semi-official pronouncements issued by insignificant little government minions seeking to earn brownie points as they languish near the bottom of the food chain in the federal capital.

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Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by stevmatt15(m): 8:58am On Feb 15
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Please am tired of this Amotekun trends

Haba, let's move on with new agendas please.
Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by wetmenow: 8:58am On Feb 15
When it come to serious issues that's when the useless government will remember law.


What's about bullion van?

What about the fulani herdsmen's ak47?
Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by unbitchable(m): 9:00am On Feb 15
Mba is another igbo willing slave of the caliphate.

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Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by jaxxy(m): 9:01am On Feb 15
What of the bandits? Who gives them conditions and permission?

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Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by Eteka1(m): 9:01am On Feb 15
MetaPhysical:
I honestly think people just talk nonsense without use of discretion.

When IGP is addressing Northerners or Easterners he can remind them of the law and statutes of Firearms Act.

When he addresses Westerners on issues of law and statutory contracts we do not need a reminder, WE ARE THE LAW!

OP,
dont allow IGP to scare you with Firearms Act. We already identified the loophole in the Act, and we are exploiting the loophole to apply for license, period!
And you will also exploit the loophole to issue yourself the licence.
Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by dingbang(m): 9:02am On Feb 15
This is Nigeria. Anything can happen
Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by Abbeyme: 9:03am On Feb 15
So, where are the conditions?

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Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by tiredoflife(m): 9:04am On Feb 15
U can't fight with gods and pray he blesses u
Amotekun is dead
They should arms
Focus on juju
That's what the mouth making of yorubas was about
Their jazz
Why do they need guns
Dem no get jazz again

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Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by Reference(m): 9:05am On Feb 15
I am happy everyone is talking about 'the law'. No longer what he or she wants but what the law says. It is a very good step towards civilisation. You want something outside the law, change the law, simple. No sentiments. Let us stop the fuel that fires those that call this country an animal farm.
Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by ogbuefi677(m): 9:05am On Feb 15
Bluntguy:
Las Las, even the Amotekun will end being a paper tiger with police regulating how it is going to function. Everything has finally become a mirage after all the noise. IPOB seems to be winning the race.
My thoughts exactly.
Make any post on Nnamdi Kanu and see it go up to 10pages with Yoruba vitriol.
But this Amotekun that's gradually being watered down, you won't see them here.
Yorubas aren't wise enough yet to realize IPOB and Ametokun are about d same thing = resistance to hausa/foolani barbarism and hegemony.
So much for sophistication!!

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Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by Eteka1(m): 9:05am On Feb 15
Jakumo:
The essence of this flawed bid by Nigerian federal government spokesmen to regulate the varieties of personal weapons that would be carried by regional vigilante groups like the newly established Amotekun group in the south west, is that the federal government seeks to apply the laws applicable ONLY for the regulation of CIVILIAN gun ownership, to the instance of statewide paramilitary groups whose role clearly falls within the realm of both military and law enforcement response tasking.

The quotation of statues relating to civilian gun ownership, by federal government spokespeople, is from a legal standpoint of ZERO relevance with respect to the arming of ANY state OR federal law enforcement agency, since the weaponry carried by trained service personnel, are determined in the context of the anticipated mission emphasis and deployment theater envisioned for specific military units, and NOT on the politically-motivated, legally unsound, semi-official pronouncements issued by insignificant little government officials seeking to earn brownie points .
To you Nigeria is so lawless to the point that any state can decide to form a military, Para-Millitary, police etc and arm them as they wish?

Let me tell you, only the Federal government has the prerogative to do the above according to the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.

Amotokun is in the category of vigilantes or community policing whose job is to assist the police or military with accurate information about criminal activities in their area.

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Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by sofiscatedmoron: 9:08am On Feb 15
Skull mining amotekuns

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Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by A1kennedy(m): 9:09am On Feb 15
goodnessme1:
Dead Amotekun.

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Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by Neoteny(m): 9:10am On Feb 15
MetaPhysical:
I honestly think people just talk nonsense without use of discretion.

When IGP is addressing Northerners or Easterners he can remind them of the law and statutes of Firearms Act.

When he addresses Westerners on issues of law and statutory contracts we do not need a reminder, WE ARE THE LAW!

OP,
dont allow IGP to scare you with Firearms Act. We already identified the loophole in the Act, and we are exploiting the loophole to apply for license, period!

Pipe dream

You still need approval to operate and bear arms, Mr We-Are-The-Law

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Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by FrLukas(m): 9:11am On Feb 15
I wonder if the armed Fulani killer herdsmen applied to the IGP for arms.

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Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by wink2015: 9:13am On Feb 15
Following the plan by South-West governors to apply to the Inspector-General of Police, Mohammed Adamu, for the personnel of the Western Nigeria Security Network, popularly known as Operation Amotekun, to carry arms, the police authorities have given conditions for them to be issued the licence.

The Force Public Relations Officer, DCP Frank Mba, said the request would be assessed within the confines of the law.

He noted that there cannot be gun licence issuance to any security outfit or state apparatus without conforming with the contents and provisions of the Firearms Act.

The Ondo State Attorney General, Kola Olawoye, had told The PUNCH on Sunday that each state would apply to the IGP for a gun licence for Amotekun corps.

But in his response to an enquiry by one of our correspondents on the request for gun licence for the corps on Friday, the Force PRO said any request not compatible with the law would be turned down.

Mba stressed that the police did not have the discretion of issuing gun licence because the licensing is governed by law and it works with the provisions of the Firearms Act.

He said, “There is a law in this country; the Firearms Act, which regulates gun usage, ownership and licensing. It is a federal legislation and every request must be in line with the provision and contents of that act. It is not at the discretion of the Inspector-General of Police; it is the provision of the law. So it is simple.

“So, whatever you want in this regard, if it is not compatible with that law, that request would be turned down. The request will be assessed within the confines of that law.

“I have not seen their (states) request, and speaking generally, not about Amotekun now, but all I know is that every request for licence, irrespective of where it is coming from, will be assessed strictly on its merit.

“By merit, I mean it will be assessed strictly in line with the provisions of the Firearms Act. No license will be issued or any request ascertained outside the context and provisions of the law. We are a country guided by law and we will work with the provisions of the Firearms Act.”

Notably, licensing is under Part II of the Firearms Act, Chapter 146, Laws of the Federal Republic of Nigeria 1990. Of the seven sections under it, Sections 3 and 4, read, “No person shall have in his possession or under his control any firearm of one of the categories specified in Part I of the Schedule hereto (hereinafter referred to as a prohibited firearm) except in accordance with a licence granted by the President acting in his discretion.

“No person shall have in his possession or under his firearms control any firearm of one of the categories specified in Part II of the Schedule to this Act (hereinafter referred to as a personal firearm) except in accordance with a licence granted in respect thereof by the Inspector-General of Police, which licences shall be granted or refused in accordance with principles decided upon by the National Council of Ministers.”

Meanwhile, following increased killings and kidnappings in the South-West, the governors of the six states in the region launched Operation Amotekun on January 9, 2020 in Ibadan, the Oyo State capital, to provide security for the people within the region.

They had at an earlier summit convened by the Development Agenda for Western Nigeria in June 2019 agreed to set up the initiative, before it was eventually launched in January.

But, few days after the launch, which received commendations from many eminent persons across the country, the Minister of Justice and Attorney General of the Federation, Mr Abubakar Malami, described the initiative as illegal, adding that his office was not consulted before the governors launched the initiative.

The AGF’s position attracted severe criticisms, with many lawyers faulting the AGF for describing it as illegal. They, however, advised the governors to send a bill on the initiative to their respective state’s Houses of Assembly to give it legal backing.

The governors also threatened to approach the court if the Federal Government continued to oppose the initiative. But following a meeting the governors had with the Vice-President, Prof Yemi Osinbajo; the AGF and the IGP, Mohammed Adamu, they resolved to come up with a framework that would provide backing to the regional security outfit.

https://punchng.com/ig-gives-swest-govs-conditions-for-amotekun-corps-to-bear-arms/

The inspector general of police is only playing the script of Buhari his paymaster.

THE NORTH SHOULD GET READY TO ACCEPT RESTRUCTURING.

THEY HAVE NO CHOICE.

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Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by MetaPhysical: 9:13am On Feb 15
Jakumo:
The essence of this flawed bid by Nigerian federal government spokesmen to regulate the varieties of personal weapons that would be carried by regional vigilante groups like the newly established Amotekun group in the south west, is that the federal government seeks to apply the laws that regulate CIVILIAN gun ownership, to the instance of statewide paramilitary groups whose role clearly falls within the realm of both military and law enforcement response tasking.

The quotation of statues relating to civilian gun ownership, by federal government spokespeople, is from a legal standpoint of ZERO relevance with respect to the arming of ANY state OR federal law enforcement arm, since the weaponry carried by service personnel, are determined in the context of the anticipated mission emphasis and deployment theater, of specific military units, politically-motivated, legally unsound, semi-official pronouncements aside.

Very good point...but check this out...

The Firearms Act consist of two parts, the Act itself and Firearms Regulation. The States have passed laws giving the Executives consent to arm their security corps in their respective states. This means the Governor, in his capacity as Executive-in Chief, the head of security, will apply to IGP for consent to act as a designee for the powers conferred on the IGP by part II of the Act. The IGP cannot turn down the Chief Security of the State. The Governor thus steps in as a firearm authorizing agent only for his state. The IGP is not able to deny licensing power to the Governors but he can negotiate for some other concessions.

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Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by worldclass68(m): 9:14am On Feb 15
But fulanis the killers, criminals don't need to pass through any process while roaming about the forest, and highways with AK-47 and the likes abi...........
Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by MelesZenawi: 9:15am On Feb 15
MetaPhysical:


Very good point...but check this out...

The Firearms Act consist of two parts, the Act itself and Firearms Regulation. The States have passed laws giving the Executives consent to arm their security corps in their respective states. This means the Governor, in his capacity as Executive-in Chief, the head of security, will apply to IGP for consent to act as a designee for the powers conferred on the IGP by part II of the Act. The IGP cannot turn down the Chief Security of the State. The Governor thus steps in as a firearm authorizing agent only for his state. The IGP is not able to deny licensing power to the Governors but he can negotiate for some other concessions.


Amotekun is dead.

Please stop all these egoism.

The outfit is dead and gone to dogs.

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Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by Jakumo(m): 9:17am On Feb 15
Eteka1:
To you Nigeria is so lawless to the point that any state can decide to form a military, Para-Millitary, police etc and arm them as they wish?

Yes sir, parts of Nigeria are indeed utterly lawless, and as such, require the services of locally created vigilante groups who know the lay of the land due to previous occupations as farmers or hunters. Vigilante groups clutching infantry light arms, fight terrorist hordes right alongside regular military personnel in the badlands of Nigeria's north eastern war zones, as a pertinent and noteworthy example.

In Nigeria's southern farming bread-basket, the industrial-scale crop damage perpetrated by marauding cattle herds escorted by skinny, hollow-eyed men wielding assault rifles, has thus far DEFIED a conventional military approach by intent from the highest echelons of federal governance, thus leaving southern states with no recourse but to create their own autonomous paramilitary units to safeguard vital food supplies from the plague of locust-like cattle herds currently seeking to annex the ENTIRE nation's strategic agricultural hinterland by force of arms, for conversion into cattle grazing pasture, on precious land where food crops once thrived.

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Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by FrLukas(m): 9:18am On Feb 15
abuhusna1:
Must everyone carry gun. This is my third year in Ireland and I have never seen a gun.

Does Ireland have Fulani herdsmen roaming their plains with AK47 and cattle?

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Re: Police Give South-West Governors Conditions For Amotekun Corps To Bear Arms by sulaak: 9:19am On Feb 15
abuhusna1:
Must everyone carry gun. This is my third year in Ireland and I have never seen a gun.

They carried guns around the Irish republic in 1920s and Northern Ireland in 1990 had many checkpoints and armed police and soldiers across the country.

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