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Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by Caseless: 6:14pm On Feb 15, 2020
I read this with a 'wrapped' attention. Nice read. The writer is good.
And on the subject matter. There's no way Hope's emergence will not be seen as a miracle. The SC erred in their judgement.
Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by CanadaOrBust: 6:16pm On Feb 15, 2020
Wantedmiller:


So just because PDP won in his stronghold, are you indirectly saying APC should have won everything.

as far as it is all about Nigeria.........Election na Jege. Play your card and win.

Nothing like people's mandate........Sooner or later people will get use to the candidate.

Please stop talking nonsense. Someone got 99.9% of the votes with over 100% voter turnout and here u r debating it!

Using the precedent of this judgment , a ruling party can easily “win” any election, effectively removing any say u may have in choosing who rules you.
And that is what u r busy defending!

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Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by jacoik(m): 6:25pm On Feb 15, 2020
ekanx27:
VAR is coming to Check again


I will keep saying this.......

INEC is the Referee, Supreme Court is the VAR.
If u like dribble like Messi or Score goal like Ronaldo, without VAR, u are just another Yakubu Aiyegbeni
lolxxxxx hahahaha answer u no well

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Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by Wantedmiller: 6:26pm On Feb 15, 2020
CanadaOrBust:


Please stop talking nonsense. Someone got 99.9% of the votes with over 100% voter turnout and here u r debating it!

Using the precedent of this judgment , a ruling party can easily “win” any election, effectively removing any say u may have in choosing who rules you.
And that is what u r busy defending!

my dear it has not gotten to insult ok......

argue like a man jooor

please who got the 99.9.%?

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Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by Agboriotejoye(m): 6:28pm On Feb 15, 2020
Neoteny:
Are we still talking about this?

Hasn't a new scandal been created by Mary Odili for sacking a duly elected Governor on account of the sin of another, using the wackiest argument?

Deputy Governors can and have been deposed by States Houses of Assembly for various reasons, and the governors remain unaffected.

If the roles are thus separated, one wonders why in this case they're suddenly conflated as one.

Maybe when next a governor dies, his deputy too should immediately be put to death.

If you had read to understand, you'll realise the case is pre-election and therefore Lyon was not yet governor nor his running mate deputy at the instance of the case.

Funny enough, a case of death has occurred in kogi where the guber candidate though coasting to victory died before conclusion of elections. Of course, his running mate was also put to "death" an act affirmed throughout by all the courts that heard the matter.

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Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by Wantedmiller: 6:29pm On Feb 15, 2020
nzeobi:

Do your own calculations and tell me since you know imo politics better than I do.


wait till Tuesday...
Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by bumi10(m): 6:30pm On Feb 15, 2020
kahal29:
Once the Supreme Court has entered judgment in a case, that decision is final and will remain so for ever. The law may in future be amended to affect future issues on the same subject, but for the case decided, that is the end of the matter.

Is a lie, Supreme Court has the power to over rule itself if they erred in a judgement and was brought to their notice.

Just that Nigeria is gone and even if they goofed on a judgement, as long as it supports the agenda they will not over rule it.

Buhari never knew the power of the Supreme Court in a democratic settings when he was first elected, but when he quickly stumbled on it, and advised by his loyalist, he got the Senate, got the AGF and got the Supreme Court. Is game over for Nigeria.

Make no mistake, Buhari can do and get away with so many things now that he won't dare do when he was a military head of state.
Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by Agboriotejoye(m): 6:36pm On Feb 15, 2020
backbone503:

I am not at all into politics at all, but here is what someone into Imo politics wrote:

Imo people did not vote for Hope. Hope didn't even campaign in Imo because of the APC crises between him and Rochas who was fronting his in-law, Uche Nwosu.

On the day of the election, Hope and some APC loyalists were lodged in a Hotel in Owerri writing results after INEC announced results. They brought the results and were compelling returning officer to announce but he refused that it was fake that even party reps have raised the alarm.


He presented this so-called forged results in court and INEC, Ihedioha nor PDP never found it necessary to challenge those results? See, the Apex court simply reinstated Hope's valid votes that were illegally cancelled by INEC.
How were the votes valid and who validated them?
Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by backbone503(m): 6:46pm On Feb 15, 2020
Agboriotejoye:

How were the votes valid and who validated them?

Who else validates or invalidates votes other than INEC's Presiding Officers? Counsel to APC and Hope presented duly signed and stamped Form EC8 series for 380 poling units in which INEC illegally cancelled (not at the unit level). And these were all in APC's strong holds were it won massively

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Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by ugodedoc: 6:58pm On Feb 15, 2020
Dansuqi:

Continue wasting your time.commonsense demands that with bayelsa lost from apc,you wony get IMO again

Guy you are really a wasted fool.This mentality has killed this country called Nigeria. Mentality of a lazy youth.Did you even read the write up?
Anyways lets see what becomes of it on 18th February .God will make a name for Himself.

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Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by ugodedoc: 7:00pm On Feb 15, 2020
Fredlongs:
This story too long abeg...

This guy has five certificates he can't defend.Bet me on this.Lazy youth
Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by ugodedoc: 7:05pm On Feb 15, 2020
kahal29:
Once the Supreme Court has entered judgment in a case, that decision is final and will remain so for ever. The law may in future be amended to affect future issues on the same subject, but for the case decided, that is the end of the matter.
Oga at the top, this is a public forum and common sense demand that you have good knowledge of every information you want to pass so base on what you just posted,i tag you a lazy and uninformed youth.What happened to Peter Obi of Anambra state,did supreme court not review and reverse its judgement .Please be informed

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Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by CanadaOrBust: 7:06pm On Feb 15, 2020
Wantedmiller:


my dear it has not gotten to insult ok......

argue like a man jooor

please who got the 99.9.%?

Oh ok. I thought u knew what was going on. Never mind. Forget the whole thing.
(But how can u possibly not know that Hope got twice the number of registered voters in some places, also getting 99.9% of the votes?!)

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Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by ugbanante: 7:06pm On Feb 15, 2020
This is one piece that am glad to have come across. It's a detailed, insightful and logical reportage such that the error in this Supreme Court judgement could be noted even by the lay

Meanwhile...

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Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by Fredlongs(m): 7:11pm On Feb 15, 2020
ugodedoc:


This guy has five certificates he can't defend.Bet me on this.Lazy youth
oga defender I salute u, me be striker o
Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by henryobinna(m): 7:14pm On Feb 15, 2020
Wantedmiller:


So just because someone into imo politics wrote that......and you believed it.

Sentiment will not kill us......

Hope did not campaign.......says who....

Imo people did not vote for him......how come he got those votes.

I live in Owerri and yes Hope did not campaign, I can't remember seeing anything showing sign of governorship campaign from his camp. Only Ihedioha and Uche nwosu campaigned seriously in the state, the rest were just there like they came to escort others...


To show he didn't campaign he got only 90k+ votes whereas the rest were getting almost 200k and above. Of course before the judicial abracadabra

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Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by Desammyst(m): 7:29pm On Feb 15, 2020
Yes, the judges are humans and errors are bound to occur. But it shouldn't be used as an excuse to perpetuate judicial blunders and corruptions. The justices have to try their best to make errors minimal, as possible, because frequent errors spells doom for the judicial system. And also, you can imagine giving a final verdict in issue concerning elections, and the electoral body acts on it... You still come back to reverse the verdict on the basis of 'errors'. When that becomes a normal phenomenon in our society, the Supreme court would end up tossing the electoral umpire to and fro, leading to malignancy in the whole system towards Nigerian people.

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Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by Neoteny(m): 7:44pm On Feb 15, 2020
Agboriotejoye:


If you had read to understand, you'll realise the case is pre-election and therefore Lyon was not yet governor nor his running mate deputy at the instance of the case.

Funny enough, a case of death has occurred in kogi where the guber candidate though coasting to victory died before conclusion of elections. Of course, his running mate was also put to "death" an act affirmed throughout by all the courts that heard the matter.


James Faleke

I can't even remember the details of that case


All i recall is that Yahaya Bello was the nuclear fallout of that disaster
Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by Agboriotejoye(m): 8:27pm On Feb 15, 2020
backbone503:


Who else validates or invalidates votes other than INEC's Presiding Officers? Counsel to APC and Hope presented duly signed and stamped Form EC8 series for 380 poling units in which INEC illegally cancelled (not at the unit level). And these were all in APC's strong holds were it won massively
There's nothing like dat. The forms presented by Hope was signed by his polling agents only. Dane with the ones supplied by the police officers.
That's why the supreme court said you don't need certification for a duplicate copy.

If they're APC strongholds as claimed, how com a house of reps election held recently in the area was won hands down by PDP?

There was no voting and in some instances irregularities in those 388 PUs. Even the police brought results for only 366.

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Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by backbone503(m): 8:49pm On Feb 15, 2020
Agboriotejoye:

There's nothing like dat. The forms presented by Hope was signed by his polling agents only. Dane with the ones supplied by the police officers.
That's why the supreme court said you don't need certification for a duplicate copy.

If they're APC strongholds as claimed, how com a house of reps election held recently in the area was won hands down by PDP?

There was no voting and in some instances irregularities in those 388 PUs. Even the police brought results for only 366.

And did counsel to Ihedioha, INEC or PDP raise objections to those exhibits (result sheets for the 388 poling units)? As they didn't, doesn't that tell you that the results so tendered are genuine?

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Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by Agboriotejoye(m): 9:07pm On Feb 15, 2020
backbone503:


And did counsel to Ihedioha, INEC or PDP raise objections to those exhibits (result sheets for the 388 poling units)? As they didn't, doesn't that tell you that the results so tendered are genuine?
They did. Didn't you read the OP? Go back and read the OP and stop raising irrelevant points.
There's a link here where the judgement of the supreme court was pasted in full. Try and find it.
Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by ChikezieU(m): 9:30pm On Feb 15, 2020
[quote author=Racoon post=86669447][/quote]. I love the break down...Now how did supreme court arrive at their verdict
Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by backbone503(m): 9:37pm On Feb 15, 2020
Agboriotejoye:

They did. Didn't you read the OP? Go back and read the OP and stop raising irrelevant points.
There's a link here where the judgement of the supreme court was pasted in full. Try and find it.

Going by the Evidence Act, if they had raised objection, the result sheets so tendered would never have been accepted and marked as exhibits to be used and relied upon in the course of adjudication.

However, a 7-0 unanimous decision shows a very high level of precision.

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Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by ikdaddy01(m): 9:45pm On Feb 15, 2020
The supreme court should revert itself and order ihediohas take over of office
And award 10m against Hope Uzodimma for obtaining and furnishing the court with forged documents.
I so submit

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Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by Blizzy9ja: 10:08pm On Feb 15, 2020
Dansuqi:

Continue wasting your time.commonsense demands that with bayelsa lost from apc,you wony get IMO again
I believe you're a lazy illiterate northerner and I strongly believe you didn't read the entire piece above


If the Supreme Court erred which obviously is the case here, common sense should tell you that the judgement should be reversed... Are you northerners this daft? My goodness!!!

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Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by Agboriotejoye(m): 10:17pm On Feb 15, 2020
backbone503:


Going by the Evidence Act, if they had raised objection, the result sheets so tendered would never have been accepted and marked as exhibits to be used and relied upon in the course of adjudication.

However, a 7-0 unanimous decision shows a very high level of precision.
Bros go and read the OP o. You're arguing blindly. The supreme court held that saying the result is fake is tantamount to accusing Hope of forgery and INEC/PDP had to prove it by showing the original. Like I said, go and read the full judgement and be better informed before raising issues.

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Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by ComradeOJ(m): 10:41pm On Feb 15, 2020
I see a New Hope in Imo State. Though this time, the new Hope shall not be called Hope...

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Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by preselect(m): 10:59pm On Feb 15, 2020
Kingosytex:
The Supreme Court goofed on the Imo Judgement, the presiding judges should have ordered a re-run.

After which APC will use their federal might to rig their way to the seat.

APC doesnt want to let go of Imo at all. They APC Northern Islamic Fascists have seen Imo as a foothold into the South East. The rope-a-dope in Bayelsa was meant to calm people down so no one can say Supreme Court is partisan. They can easily give away Bayelsa in exchange for Imo, a state in the middle of the SE that must be held at all cost.

Hope Uzodimma will never find peace in the rest of his politically rotten life, and he doesnt deserve any.

Let me be clear, this country called Nigeria will continue to suffer poverty, insecurity and misgovernance for a very loooooooong time.

We have a country where terrorists are ravaging the north-east, sacking villages and claiming nigerian territory as their own, and the nigerian military is more interested in blocking Nnamdi Kanu's parents burial.
Thousands of captured Boko Haram fighters , who have killed thousands of Nigerian soldiers and civilians are released by Buhari Terrorhammadu Buhari and Nigerians just keep quiet like nothing is happening, but will jump up to protest if one man slap a woman or if one hungry man steals 30naira to buy coke. Sunday morning you all go to church to worship your pastors. . egbe eligwe gbabgukwaa unu nile dia angry angry (thunder fire all of una there)

rubbish
Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by idahme(m): 11:06pm On Feb 15, 2020
Educate yourself with relevant sections of our laws and get tutored so u don't spill out rubbish in public domain.... They were never candidates in the election. You can only impeach someone that won elections, but in this case they were disqualified before the election it's a pretty election matter.


Neoteny:
Are we still talking about this?

Hasn't a new scandal been created by Mary Odili for sacking a duly elected Governor on account of the sin of another, using the wackiest argument?

Deputy Governors can and have been deposed by States Houses of Assembly for various reasons, and the governors remain unaffected.

If the roles are thus separated, one wonders why in this case they're suddenly conflated as one.

Maybe when next a governor dies, his deputy too should immediately be put to death.
Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by idahme(m): 11:29pm On Feb 15, 2020
Audu and this case was quite different. In Audu's case APC as a party has a candidate which was represented by the party's logo on the ballot. Unlike this which did not pass the scrutiny of some relevant laws for joint ticket.


quote author=Neoteny post=86680180]


James Faleke

I can't even remember the details of that case


All i recall is that Yahaya Bello was the nuclear fallout of that disaster[/quote]
Re: How Imo Governorship Election Verdict Generates Judicial Crisis by Neoteny(m): 6:43am On Feb 16, 2020
idahme:
Educate yourself with relevant sections of our laws and get tutored so u don't spill out rubbish in public domain.... They were never candidates in the election. You can only impeach someone that won elections, but in this case they were disqualified before the election it's a pretty election matter.



They were removed after the elections, which they won, but before inauguration

By all rights they were elected

You're the dumb one here

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