NiCurious:


I believe that the person you are quoting had meant: that there should be a plan in place BEFORE people start taking over space under bridges, so that it doesn't become a reward-for-misbehaviour system. Policy alternatives. Whether that's building a wall around Lagos state with guards at checkpoints to keep every non-Lagosian without a permit out, or putting aside land to set up model villages for a set number of these people who were trying to make a life under bridges, finding and developing their skills, and creating a new business community...or anything in between...but to have a plan in place and implementing it, so LASTMA is not dealing with the same issue every few weeks, without addressing the root cause.

The solution is simple LASG has money.The north has land.
Sign some deals spend some cash and lease land for 100 years just like Guantanamo bay and so when LASG moved destitutes there then legally they are still in LASG jurisdiction . There they can build prisons, rehabilitation centres,education and training facilities farms cooperatives etc

Other states in the south should jey into that.


REVERSE RUGA

fineyemi:
its better not to say anything so..you won't embarrass yourself. Its eyes service

Thank you yemi. The changing of word was deliberate.

Sometimes, let's learn to mind our business.

0m0nnakoda:

The solution is simple LASG has money.The north has land.
Sign some deals spend some cash and lease land for 100 years just like Guantanamo bay and so when LASG moved destitutes there then legally they are still in LASG jurisdiction . There they can build prisons, rehabilitation centres,education and training facilities farms cooperatives etc

Other states in the south should jey into that.


REVERSE RUGA

Now that's an interesting idea! Very interesting....

Good one governor, you are really doing a great job. We are tired of leaving like animals in the name of some people looking for their daily bread.
If you have to sell anything on the road go to your village.

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Thank you for saying it. You just said it ur self.

NiCurious:


Now that's an interesting idea! Very interesting....

Prison is serious business in California.
States like Lagos, Rivers,Delta Akwa Ibom should go there.

That is more productive and profitable than the Kaduna Abuja Rail.

If we must build rails let prisons provide Labor

Why can't they invest in this

Timi141:
Nobody is punishing anybody. I'm not a fan of APC but what they're doing in Lagos is a step in the right direction. In any sane country, if you want to get a shop you get a traders permit and a good location from the local government instead of planting shanties all over the place that reduce property value and become eyesores.

Well now we are talking like this, what sites did the govt of the day dedicate for these so-called licences to be obtained against/? would it not be good practice to create this space in the 1st instance and then move them? this is insane if U ask me, what do you now want these poor people to do right about now? this is all they have got!govt is meant to serve the people not the people to serve the govt

free2ryhme:



How many poor American have you seen selling by the roadside

What has that got to do with my Message? If America Government is going to do the same thing is this how they will do it? Wake up and go and dislodge citizens the way they do it here?

Without plans

Without warnings / inadequate warnings

And with the sole aim of stealing from them....Because what they do is to seize from this poor traders and share their wears among themselves....

wellmax:


Hello , go and read more for JAMB common entrance.

Thank you dear. But note that there is nothing like jamb common entrance. It's "jamb".

For your information, what you saw there was deliberate. If only we can just learn to mind our business, it would've bin better for us all.

Av you ever tried to put ur self in the shoes of those poor traders? Many are the breadwinners of their family. Now you av gone to displaced them. What alternative has the government put in place for them?

Na my mouth you wan for hear eye & order ba? Am coming

valarmorghulis:

Provide alternative for illegal occupant?

They are citizens and everything done to citizens must / should be done right

They will destroy all thing but won't clear off the debris. Give or take 2 days those people are back there at day or night settling the tasks force members

NiCurious:


I believe that the person you are quoting had meant: that there should be a plan in place BEFORE people start taking over space under bridges, so that it doesn't become a reward-for-misbehaviour system. Policy alternatives. Whether that's building a wall around Lagos state with guards at checkpoints to keep every non-Lagosian without a permit out, or putting aside land to set up model villages for a set number of these people who were trying to make a life under bridges, finding and developing their skills, and creating a new business community...or anything in between...but to have a plan in place and implement it, so LASTMA is not dealing with the same issue every few weeks, without addressing the root cause.

No, he wrote that 'alternatives' should be provided for those people before chasing them. I believed I interpreted his sentences correctly. However, your write-up was more sane and reasonable. This how it supposed to be from inception. However, Nigeria is such a place where we don't have ethics and we are so corrupt that everyone is a partaker one way or the other and everyone wants to be seen as a saint. We support illegality all the time and expect things to work out miraculously.

Tapout:


oga obalande has a parking lot. The task force is only getting rid of "illegal" parking lots along side other illegal structures. Have u been to obalande at all?? That place is in a mess. Traders have converted the pedestrian walkways to shops. As a pedestrian you now have to be struggling with vehicles for right of way. Do citizens in the developed countries your talking about behaving the way we do here?? We are the ones wreaking this country with our lawlessness.

Everywhere in Lagos is in a mess....I live and work here so I know how they go about with their so-called law enforcement without human face....And if the citizens are lawless who is to blame? The observers of the law or the makers/enforcers?

- Who abides by our laws in this country? from your President down to the councillors and other appointees who abide by our Laws?

0m0nnakoda:

We are on the same page.


I already made that point.

The statement you quoted(did you read it?) SPECIFICALLY refers to Lagos state government

sorry!

RuddyFusion:


What has that got to do with my Message? If America Government is going to do the same thing is this how they will do it? Wake up and go and dislodge citizens the way they do it here?

Without plans

Without warnings / inadequate warnings

And with the sole aim of stealing from them....Because what they do is to seize from this poor traders and share their wears among themselves....

This is Lagos State Government not Nigerian government.

What you are describing is responsibility of Nigerian government.
Lagos state government ONLY ONE out of 36 states.
It doesn't get the highest allocation.
Yet 10 % of Nigerians live there?
THAT is the issue
10 % of Nigerians did not live there when it was capital 30 years ago.
Now tha Tinubu and Fashola have transformed Lagos everyone is trooping down.
This is a political and restructuring issue.

Lagos state is not entitled to derivation on VAT at all.

VAT HAS INCREASED by 50 % and 55 % of VAT Is from Lagosians.

Those paying the most VAT are not these under bridge folk


If the rest of the country wants Lagos to carry it then you must pay.

Allow Lagos state to keep money generated there. It doesn't need any oil money.

Otherwise go back to Abuja


VAT alone can sustain Lagos if these guys go back

RuddyFusion:
mY PROBLEM with most of these things our Government do is that.....They don't provide alternatives to those poor people....They don't give them enough time...No single human face to their approach..they always carry out this thing as if the masses are their enemy..

In developed nations Government exist to help and work for the betterment of the people and society....

Here Government especially this APCSHIT works to punish the people..There are always looking for more ways to punish and further compound the sufferings of the ordinary man in the street....

You were making sense until you got to the APCSHIT...

Does people started staying there from 2015 right?

Giving human face to illegality is a means to encourage more irresponsability and engender greater anomie. Always aspire to encourage the govt to do what is right rather than quarreling with them for not Padding trespassers.

RuddyFusion:
mY PROBLEM with most of these things our Government do is that.....They don't provide alternatives to those poor people....They don't give them enough time...No single human face to their approach..they always carry out this thing as if the masses are their enemy..

In developed nations Government exist to help and work for the betterment of the people and society....

Here Government especially this APCSHIT works to punish the people..There are always looking for more ways to punish and further compound the sufferings of the ordinary man in the street....

square7:
Giving human face to illegality is a means to encourage more irresponsability and engender greater anomie. Always aspire to encourage the govt to do what is right rather than quarreling with them for not Padding trespassers.

The fact is Lagos is seeking to be a World class city.

Yes it is Nigeria but it is VERY SMALL.
Less than 3% of Nigeria in size with more than 10 % population

It is overwhelmed and there has to be pushback.
A plea for Special status was shunned. .

Mowoe:


Politics aside, those people and things should not be there in the first place. We've gotten accustomed to many wrong things that we develop certain sentiments towards them.
Like I said earlier, POLITICS ASIDE.

You are right

Very right

i still dont understand d reason we use Pako to cover gutter. even d one's they use concrete to cover dey don't remove d dirt until it filled up and water enter d street

RuddyFusion:
mY PROBLEM with most of these things our Government do is that.....They don't provide alternatives to those poor people....They don't give them enough time...No single human face to their approach..they always carry out this thing as if the masses are their enemy..

In developed nations Government exist to help and work for the betterment of the people and society....

Here Government especially this APCSHIT works to punish the people..There are always looking for more ways to punish and further compound the sufferings of the ordinary man in the street....

So what should have been done? Leave them to hawk along the road. Did you think about there safety?

Okay, you want the government to give them free stalls and compensate them for trading in a prohibited place.

Where is it done?

Una Sha go won talk.

OgunLaakaye:


So what should have been done? Leave them to hawk along the road. Did you think about there safety?

Okay, you want the government to give them free stalls and compensate them for trading in a prohibited place.

Where is it done?

Una Sha go won talk.

I have addressed all the points you raised above. Do have a good evening

square7:
Giving human face to illegality is a means to encourage more irresponsability and engender greater anomie. Always aspire to encourage the govt to do what is right rather than quarreling with them for not Padding trespassers.

It's your right to express your opinion and in a way that you damm fit...THAT YOU JUST DID....Do enjoy your evening....

babzo:


Chai...Oga don vex!!!!!!!

" Looking for more ways to punish the people"....Haahaaa.


I feel you sir.

mY Brother Wetin Man go do...in Burna Boy's Voice

RuddyFusion:
mY PROBLEM with most of these things our Government do is that.....They don't provide alternatives to those poor people....They don't give them enough time...No single human face to their approach..they always carry out this thing as if the masses are their enemy..With the enforcers ending up sharing their wares among themselves...

Every law enforcement drive here is never for the sake of enforcing the law but for the benefit of a selected few and the enforcers are all OUT TO STEAL, KILL AND DESTROY.....

In developed nations Government exist to help and work for the betterment of the people and society....

Here Government especially this APCSHIT works to punish the people..They are always looking for more ways to punish and further compound the sufferings of the ordinary man in the street....

Those people ( many of them) knows these day would come yet they waited for it empty handed.
It's painful sha. quit notice should have been sent.

D rich jus looking for ways to send poor masses to hell6

erico2k2:

Well now we are talking like this, what sites did the govt of the day dedicate for these so-called licences to be obtained against/? would it not be good practice to create this space in the 1st instance and then move them? this is insane if U ask me, what do you now want these poor people to do right about now? this is all they have got!govt is meant to serve the people not the people to serve the govt

Truth be told, lagos is overpopulated with all kind of people and things, the poor never reduces, Every now and then thousands are flocking in every time, how many people can you cater for. You can't help other 35 state do their job. A time would come you have to take drastic decision and practically chase out some relocators back to their village. The rate of road blockage and traffic is overwhelming.
Let Other state do their own job.

Ambode was just useless...he came to ruin the beautiful works done by Fashola turning lagos to mess....seems sanwolou is out to restore sanity.....This Is Lagos, not your village

L1lma:
D rich jus looking for ways to send poor masses to hell6

So insanity should be tolerated......
People just open their dirty mouths and speak anyhow

stanliwise:
Those people ( many of them) knows these day would come yet they waited for it empty handed.
It's painful sha. quit notice should have been sent.

Exactly...do your job....enforce your laws with human face...

RuddyFusion:


And who do you blame for this? The citizens or the government?

You never run out of Idiotic questions.

You think others would tolerate the nonsense you guys do in your backwards states?
You are from Igboland. Have you ever held the SE Governors responsible for the mess that states like Abia have become? No. You prefer to jump into Lagos affairs, meanwhile your state is decrepit.