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Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Nobody: 10:22am On Apr 12, 2020 |
Mummymahdi: That's the way demons work! Mormon Muhammad Buddha Sango Osun Guru Maharaj and so many others claiming Pastors today truthfully heard voices! But the truth is those voices will not teach them what's BENEFITIAL for all. DEMONS only want worshipers that's all. Any form of setting will work for them and inexperienced people who falls victim to them will be tricked into believing they're dealing with God! Of course they will give their agent some things to show as evidence of their power and backup (if the agent enters into a covenant with them), such an agent will become popular and wealthy but ask him why the rules of his own God contradicts that of the other so called men of God, that is when you'll realize that they're all workers of lawlessness (iniquity)! Matthew 7:21-23 Of course most people will hate the TRUTH because it doesn't grant their selfish desire to be made special than their fellowman! |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by shadeyinka(m): 10:36am On Apr 12, 2020 |
LadunaI:Since you believe that ignorant Muslims are those who Jesus converts and transforms to become his followers, will you please help out Empiree. He seems to be afraid of what the truth can do to him if he gives Geeman23 an opportunity to defend/explain himself. You are free to interrogate German as much as you want. A'salam aleikum |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Haramslayer: 10:51am On Apr 12, 2020 |
Anas09: Noted. |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by shadeyinka(m): 10:56am On Apr 12, 2020 |
Mummymahdi:Are you sure fasting is haram on Fridays? There are conditions by which a Muslim may fast on Friday as it is wrong for a Muslim to intentionally set apart only Fridays for fasting 'Abdullah b. 'Amr b. al-'As said that he heard Muhammad say "Verily, Friday is an eid (holiday) for you, so do not fast on it unless you fast the day before or after it." The truth is that Jesus do sometimes directly and personally transform some Muslims |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Nobody: 11:04am On Apr 12, 2020 |
shadeyinka: You're an idol worshiper! Worshipers of the true God don't just follow demons claiming they're Jesus! Jesus himself warned that any group no matter what name they call themselves is worthy of God's glory if they're able to bear the FRUIT of God's holy spirit! Matthew 7:16-18 And anybody could be a worshiper of demons even while performing miracles in Jesus' name! Matthew 7:21-23 God's will is that individuals from different nations should be made a family of peace loving worshipers for his name! Isaiah 2:2-4 Jews criticising Jesus as an impostor surely had a point! When God foretold that a Messiah will be born in Israel, Jesus is not the name God foretold but Emmanuel, God said he will come from David's linage (Royalty) not from a poor carpenter, God also foretold that he will do so many things like overthrowing the world government and start ruling in Jerusalem but Jesus never attempted having any case with the Roman empire (the world power of his time) so what helped his humble followers to IDENTIFY him as the promised Messiah? Of course they were studying him to see part of the prophesies fulfilment in this humbe young Nazarene! He was educating them on how gather people from all the earth and form a global family of peace loving worshipers, as the Prince of Peace! Isaiah 9:6 So no matter what name a group bears as long as they're able to do that, you're fighting against God if you try to oppose them! |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Haramslayer: 11:16am On Apr 12, 2020 |
Smhaykins: Realities are not affected by perception. Even if you dont believe, it does not change the fact. |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Mummymahdi(f): 11:27am On Apr 12, 2020 |
shadeyinka:exactly what I know but in d story the guy/said imam fast every Friday which am sure that s not true |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by shadeyinka(m): 12:01pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Mummymahdi:Ok: I agree with you if he said "every Friday". I don't know if he is Sufi, sometimes they have some different interpretations concerning 'dua Although, he seems to be more versed in Islam than Christianity. One of my pastors Rev Amos Ibitoye Muftau Raheem had this kind of experience too in the month of Ramadan. He's a fairly old man now with grand children. The experience is not as strange as you may think |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by shadeyinka(m): 12:06pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Maximus69:Did you have a pending copy you need somewhere to paste to You make no coherent speech. How has this got to do with scammers like Robert Ciranko and his board members also rob you folks blind?? |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Nobody: 2:02pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
shadeyinka: Jesus was also thought to have been an impostor who robbed gullible Jews in the first century. So learn to appreciate the benefits derived from true faith and not just your credulous ideas that could be found in any religion! |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by shadeyinka(m): 3:49pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Maximus69:I can see that you a worried and disturbed that Robert Ciranko and his board members have been robbing you folks blind. Sorry Bro! |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Empiree: 5:39pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
sagenaija:See, you just gonna expose yourself more. I can as well ask, where is evidence that your mom is your mom?. Where is your evidence that that holy ghost visit you guys?. You need more?. Where is evidence that Jesus exist?. J esus did not exist in ancient time Where is the evidence that Mohamed performed any miracle?Miracle is not evidence of true religion. Even Alawo performed miracle. God can bless anyone any miracle. Bu today, christian miracle are fake. Where are your pastors to heal coronavirus with their fake miracles? Besides, your Bible itself condemned miracle workers in Matthew 7:22-23 So why is miracle an issue?. Miracle is what you christians are chasing and Bibl condemned you in Matthew 12:38-39, Matthew 16:4, Matthew 24 vs 23-26 A wicked and adulterous generation looks for a miraculous sign, but none will be given it except the sign of Jonah." Jesus then left them and went away. See your own bible captures you guys. It says you people that are seeking miracles are very wicked. So miracle is not centrality of Islamic faith. If anyone in 21st century refuses to accept islam unless and until he sees miracle is a kafir(disbeliever). Is it not a FACT that Mohamed said (contrary to all hygiene rules) that: 'Water is not made impure by anything.' Do you drink any water you come across, Empiree?I have no idea what you talking about. You need to quote it. Is it not a FACT that Mohamed acknowledged the Torah and the Gospels which Moslems today deny?Which torah and which Gospel?. Is it Gospel according John or Luke or Matthew or Mark and which version?. Catholic 77 books or Protestant 66 books?. When you figure o=it out let me know. In reality you disregard the FACTS and run your religious life even when there is no clear EVIDENCE to support some of your claims.You gonna have to be specific. I have no idea what you're talking about. Islam is evidence based. You claim that 'Religion is not based on emotion but fact and evidence' yet you run away from FACTS and EVIDENCE and actually go by your EMOTIONS.This is empty. Show us evidence of christianity in your Bible. Simple, isnt? |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Empiree: 5:45pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
"spirit appear to people" Iro lo wa nbe. We talk about religious issues base on evidence in your religious text not some "holy ghost" that you can not prove. Maximus69: |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Empiree: 6:23pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Geeman23:I am definitely not that interested in islamic group(s) you belonged. I am interested in your islamic knowledge. You can go to any madrassa, this is not new. Many in yoruba land including christians are aware of some islamic teachings. They recite Sura fatiha fluently but this is due to their closeness to muslims. Yoruba are closely related. So this is not issue I still follow a lot of Islamic scholars both the Sunni( where I belonged till I left the faith) and the the traditional suffis. see when I keep silent on issues on conversation most times it is my personal attempt at not putting Islam to ridicule just because I am no longer an adherent.I will get to know your background in a min. Keep going, brother. But before that, do you believe Allah is God or Supreme Being, the Creator of Heaven and earth and everything?. Answer is Yes or No. The saying that you are no longer adherent, it may be that you are no longer adherent of a particular islamic group. I don't know what they taught you there. I dont belong to any group. Here, I am about islam. Period. So tell me what you know about islam so i know your level. The Lord the holy spirit aught me a lot about Islam. Islam in itself is not bad ( i.e the act of ibadah doing salat, zakat, fasting, hajj, piousness etc. The problem with Islam is the ground Norm i.e the Revelation on which the faith developed. The Revelation of the Quran is actually not from the God of heaven. Some spirits of unrighteous masquerading as God actually we're responsible for the Revelation of the Quran and subsequent supernatural intervention that made the faith grow rapidly. see I hate to say these things but that is the truth. You don't get to know the weakness of Islam until you encounter the True living God who with knowledge of would set a man free from the strong appeal of the quran.. It is sounding familiar now. What is new or different in Quran revelation that is contrary to Ibrahim (as)?. Where is the "True Living God"?. Be sure you dont elope The test is any spirit that is from God must proclaim God's kingdom, acknowledge the sacrifice if Jesus as key to restore man to God.So Jesus was your sacrificial lamb?. We are just getting started. This is gonna be fun. The fantastic crafting of the Quran by the spirit behind it ( its appeal to scientific order of nature , religious history, rhythm, logic and the supernatural means it came) is the biggest tool which even forced the holy prophet muhammad to believe is from God. see brother, Islam is a world. it is just like beign in Nigeria. If you don't gain access either accidentally or by self will to countries like Canada or USA either directly ( by immigration) or indirectly through exposure of life their via the Internet you can never fathom what you are loosing by beign in Nigeria and sticking ignorantly to Nigeria. My journey into God's kingdom was accidental but I have had the opportunity to understand better on the message of Islam which an average can never know until the veil is lifted of his eyes. I used to have those veils before. I was a zealous Muslim, all through my madrasat days I was active. Salat is something that my parent has planted into us from childhood.I begin to understand you gradually. You are victim of internet and modern propaganda. Continue. Where do you think I live?. I live in New York. I have seen, probably what you never witnessed in your life. What i noticed is that people get carjoled by so many corrupt information online or if you happen to travel to western world like USA etc, in most cases they lose their religious background. If by God's Grace, they sometimes retract. Many christians are in his mess too especially in UK. So your experience is not unique to me. You want the worst?. Come to New York. You want the best?. Come to New York.. So, know that your experience will not surprised me one bit. Christians and Christianity were a No No."God talk to me, I talk to God" is all fallacy. Please, i am not interested in "holy ghost say". You must bring your proof from your religious text. That's how I will expose your faith. I noticed you condemned christianity and christian. So clarify where you stand first. I have encountered someone like you here before who doesnt believe in organized religion (christianity) but believes in Jesus. There is no evidence for "holy ghost say". brother this is the life God intend for man, the eternal life of mutual fellowship by the holy spirit which the faith of Christ came to restore. I[b]slam although strongly appealing in moral righteousness is another plan of the devil to cut of a lot of people from the enjoyment of this life through a religion he started in Arabia to gain influence over the world.[/b]See, i scanned through your post already. You arent different from many i have dialogue with in this platform for years now. Thanks for sparing your time out. See this your statement @underlined, let me cut in right there to refute you. It seems to me that you think Islam is about not frisking you. Islam gives right to enjoy life. But seek, with that (wealth) which Allah has bestowed on you, the home of the Hereafter, and forget not your portion of legal enjoyment in this world, and do good as Allah has been good to you, and seek not mischief in the land. Verily, Allah likes not the Mufsidun (those who commit great crimes and sins, oppressors, tyrants, mischief-makers, corrupts). Sura Baqara 28:77 This verse refutes your claim that islam is meant to cut you off from enjoying life. I am sure you have wrong islamic information. You will learn here. I know some muslims dont have proper islamic education in their childhood. What they thought was islam was not. You will learn here, in sha Allah. I dont insult. I talk or respond base on whoever i have dialogue with. Many christians have no respect for Islam, Quran and its prophet. Therefore, they must be met with iron fist. Question, did you ever read Christian Manifesto? |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Nobody: 6:50pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
shadeyinka: It's OK, you're welcome my friend! Keep crying over the pain, but it's not too late to join God's people! |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Nobody: 6:55pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Empiree: So Muhammad must have lied that Gabriel (spirit) appeared to him and delivered some messages to him! |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Empiree: 6:57pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Maximus69:Why do you folks like thinking with half brain?. Have you no sense?. You compared prophet with you shenanigans?. |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by shadeyinka(m): 7:23pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Maximus69:You are the one crying because I exposed the truth you'll gladly exclude yourself from: that Robert Ciranko and his board members have been robbing you folks blind. QED! |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Nobody: 8:12pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Empiree: What makes him a prophet? What convinced you that he's a prophet? |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Nobody: 8:13pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Congratulations you've won the argument Sir! shadeyinka: |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Empiree: 8:18pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Maximus69:what makes your mom, your mom?. What convinced you that your mom is your mom? |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Victoreeah(f): 8:22pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Praise the lord |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by shadeyinka(m): 8:28pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Maximus69:There was no argument! Please tell your Robert Ciranko and his board members to repent from stealing your free will money donations! |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Nobody: 8:35pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Empiree: Oh that's a simple one! ©She fed me from infancy even though i never knew when she was breastfeeding me! ©She also kept pictures from time to time until i grew up to know her! ©She also gave birth to my siblings and i could remember vividly how some of them were brought home after delivery and how she breastfed them! ©There is sharp resemblance between me, my siblings and my mother! ©She tried all within her capability to see to it that all her children are united as one big and happy family! ©When we were little she made sure we attended school and gave my dad all her support to see that all of us went to school! © During festivities she makes sure that all her children are well dressed like other kids and makes sure we enjoy the best of festive seasons! Hmmmmmmmm how can i forget her? She did so much for me! So now can you please answer my own question? What convinced you that a sixth century Arabian was a prophet when you never saw him?
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Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Nobody: 8:37pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
You're 100% correct Sir! shadeyinka: |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by shadeyinka(m): 8:38pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Maximus69:Thanks for heeding to the advice. If Robert Ciranko and his board members stop robbing you folks, your eyes will become clearer! |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Nobody: 8:47pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Thanks for the enlightenment Sir! shadeyinka: |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by sagenaija: 8:47pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Empiree: Empiree, If you took time to understand my post, you would have seen that what I focused on was FACTS AND EVIDENCE and how your EMOTIONS gets in the way of your being able to provide FACTS and EVIDENCE to any of your arguments. That's what I was communicating. Nothing else. Every other thing was to see if you got it and were going to be able to use the instances to provide FACTS and EVIDENCE for your position. Unfortunately you failed on all counts. You again allowed your EMOTIONS to run amok. |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Empiree: 8:48pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Maximus69:step mother could do these things. Foster mother could do these. You might be adopted and she never told you. Everything you mentioned is not proof she's your mom. What if someone come around 30yrs from now to claim you?. What if she wakes up one day and says she actually adopted you?. What if she says to you one day that she actually found you where someone dumped you near sewer?. There are lots of more "what ifs". You have not proved she's your mom. I am sure I put you on hot seat now. Are you feeling the heat?. If you know how to ask silly question you should know I got worst than that for you. Prove to me that your mom is your mom. That's all. Everything you said ain't proofs. You just grew up and seen her by your side and you believe she's yours. I am sure you didn't expect my question.. If you have silly question I have mad question. Deal with it |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by shadeyinka(m): 8:49pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Maximus69:You are welcome. I am really looking forward to seeing Robert Ciranko and his board members stop robbing you anytime soon |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Empiree: 8:53pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
sagenaija:smh... This is really empty. Talking about evidence, you have been unable to establish christianity jare. Miracle is not evidence. Most "miracles" today are magic or sorcerery. |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Nobody: 8:57pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Empiree: There's no silly question here Sir! I said spirits do communicate with people and declare they're sent by God. You said it's impossible. I asked if Muhammad lied about having to deal with Gabriel (spirit). You said i'm comparing prophet with none prophets. So i asked you what makes you think he was a prophet? You asked how i believe my mom was my real mom? Well you may choose credulity over facts but no foster mother could have the kind of sharp resemblance that permeates my own family! |
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