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Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by TonyAntony: 7:24am On Mar 30, 2020 |
National assembly of Lagos state kwa? Oh my goodness!!!! koffsman: |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by koffsman(m): 7:28am On Mar 30, 2020 |
Bro I said my bits say something better to counter it we are here to learn not for banter TonyAntony: |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by babzo(m): 7:30am On Mar 30, 2020 |
OP. Correct yourself. Stop spreading fallacies. Spanish Flu was 1918, not 1920. Thats a difference of 2 years or 730 days or 17520 hours 1 Like |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by sayso: 7:30am On Mar 30, 2020 |
Seun thanks for this,people now can talk with facts. That said the governors are under the president in executive power so they the governors should open the state or liase with the president to activate the quarantine act and then provide food/medicine/shelter for the people. Trump can't quarautine NY cos Cuomo the governor is not sure if the federal can contain quarantine act rather people can apply for unemployment grant. Seun thanks, you and your staffers are educating nigerians. |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by ccollins(m): 7:30am On Mar 30, 2020 |
naptu2:who declares which law is reasonable justifiable in our society if not the judiciary and our court of law and justice. So a law that is justiciable in a democratic society is not one which without tenets of democracy ,checks and balances now gives a whimsical power to the presidency to issue out a analogous illicit fiats to close down borders without first obtaining such orders from the court that their actions are legal and that the quarantine act is on the merits justifiable in a democratic society |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by idealogical: 7:32am On Mar 30, 2020 |
koffsman: Is the Nigerian constitution also different or it's been amended to say the FG must bow to LASG and seek approval before enacting national policies and actions? |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by Kokoebapluse(m): 7:32am On Mar 30, 2020 |
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Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by VULCAN(m): 7:34am On Mar 30, 2020 |
I used to think you were a very thorough fellow but this post appears to reveal quite the contrary. It's obvious you are not a lawyer as your response to a purported breach of federal and state law drew from anecdotes your mum gave you about incidents that may have occurred long before you were born. Does it mean you don't have a lawyer in your family to enquire about this or don't you have a lawyer friend to call up and ask? Do laws made in 1929(30yrs before the entity called Nigeria existed) supercede those made in 1999? A SAN has said that Buhari did not follow due process in shutting down Lagos and the other states and you are refuting it with this bizarre post. So you have no current law to quote to back up your assertion. How sad! You should have waited for Keyamo the political SAN holder to respond to the criticism by the human rights lawyer. You should delete this post as its suspect. Are you a Buhari worshipper? I ask because they are the ones who specialise in intellectual somersaults to support the disaster that is his govt, Or is it President Abba Kyari's govt? Its difficult to tell where one man ends and the other begins naptu2: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by executive12: 7:35am On Mar 30, 2020 |
helinues: You are right. |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by Stallion93(m): 7:37am On Mar 30, 2020 |
The president of Nigeria has the capacity to do everything and anything. The president of Nigeria is the greatest president in any democratically run government |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by koffsman(m): 7:40am On Mar 30, 2020 |
Very good question here is it all the federal government needed to do was place a call to the AG of the federation to advice on the best approach since they know the laws better than we do and the AG will connect with the AG of Lagos State who will in turn advise the governor and national assembly on reasons we need lock down in Lagos State but the president by passed all of this thinking it's still military era. If you check well when Obj wanted to declare state of emergency in ekiti he went through the Senate if he Buhari wanted to do it well he would have gone through the Senate also but since the script was written on his behalf and he failed to vet it what do you expect idealogical: |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by idealogical: 7:40am On Mar 30, 2020 |
ccollins post=87910516[b: The constitution does. The judiciary or any other arm of government can not overrule the Nigeran constitution because the constitution is the bedrock and safety valve in any democracy. The judiciary's job is to defend and interpret the constitution, not to throw out the constitution or amend the constitution based on their own reasonings. You can not in one breath champion and defend democracy while in another breath blame the president for doing exactly what the constitution asked him to do. Any act that the constitution sanctions can not be illicit, you are not making any sense. 2 Likes |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by Acidosis(m): 7:40am On Mar 30, 2020 |
These outdated laws have nothing to do with restriction of movements. The said SAN has just addressed these outdated quarantine laws on Channels tv. |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by naptu2: 7:41am On Mar 30, 2020 |
A lot of huffing and puffing, but no substance. 2 Likes |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by bkool7(m): 7:42am On Mar 30, 2020 |
naptu2: Op. Are you a Constitution or Human Rights lawyer? Because one (SAN) Human Rights lawyer had earlier stated otherwise |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by crazycrypto710: 7:44am On Mar 30, 2020 |
Doomed we will be. 1 Share
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Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by Acidosis(m): 7:45am On Mar 30, 2020 |
@OP, on what basis would anyone be penalised for breaching the so called "order"? What would be the likely LEGAL punishment for an illegal and non-promulgated 'law'? |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by MYHUBBY: 7:46am On Mar 30, 2020 |
But is anyone questioning the federal govt capacity to lock all state in the nations? The federal govt control the securities so they've the capacity to lock down everywhere provided there is a suspense and impending danger on the citizens This is no debate at all |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by anonimi: 7:46am On Mar 30, 2020 |
payperpost: We do our objectives a lot of harm by raising flimsy shortcomings rather than the big issues. #Nuff_Said 2 Likes |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by 9jaRealist: 7:47am On Mar 30, 2020 |
. 1926? So Bubu must have been one of the drafters... > |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by idealogical: 7:47am On Mar 30, 2020 |
koffsman: They don't have to, but I'm 100% sure they did. Is there any stipulation in the constitution that says the FG must-seek approval from the NASS or any other arm of government? The president acted based on the Nigerian constitution that wasn't written or decreed in any military era, it's a civilian constitution so stop mixing things up to confuse yourself and the people reading your posts. Stop making things up, deal with what's in the Nigerian constitution. |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by idealogical: 7:48am On Mar 30, 2020 |
bkool7: Based on his own thoughts and personal opinion, not based on the Nigerian constitution. |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by koffsman(m): 7:49am On Mar 30, 2020 |
I stand to be corrected but you saying am confusing myself let me quote a San “We are running a constitutional democracy and it is illegal for the President to take over the affairs of any state of the federation without the express consent of the people of that state through their elected representatives. “It is only the governor of the state through the House of Assembly of the state that can make any declaration concerning the people of that state. Little wonder that the President could not cite any law that he relied upon for his declaration.” So next time be very mindful of what you say to others have a good day. idealogical: |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by manontree: 7:50am On Mar 30, 2020 |
I do not have a problem with the legality or otherwise of a curfew. And yes, that's what this is, a curfew. It is essentially not a lockdown or forced quarantine but a curfew. The problem with curfew tests with its enforcement. It means our law enforcement agents would have a field day deciding who have breached it or who hasnt When you escalate such scenarios, there are millions of people that desperately would need help. They may not have enough to survive for 14days. Even rich people amongst us may discover he may need some vital food items after 10 days. Those that would like to go out to buy food and eat, how would the enforcement treat them. Would they find sellers? Would they have enough money to buy vital items What of those that fall desperately sick within this period. Would they get transportation to seek help. Would anyone come to their aid seeing as there is a curfew? I do not think we have experienced such a situation before. Personally I would have advocated for a week curfew and thereafter we assess how far it has helped and decide on how to proceed. Most businesses and people have been on hold for upwards of 10 days already and a blanket curfew for another 14 days, even if sensible, would result in a cruel and unusual punishment for a vast number of poor people We would find that despite the lip service of providing some audio relief materials, most of these poor people would be on their own 2 Likes |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by azikiweironsi(m): 7:53am On Mar 30, 2020 |
funmike83: Abi o. What a confused set of people ? Now he spoke, they say he has no power to call a lock down. Just imagine. |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by bkool7(m): 7:53am On Mar 30, 2020 |
idealogical:That's let for the court to interpret |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by idealogical: 7:54am On Mar 30, 2020 |
koffsman: Instead of quoting lawyers expressing their own personal opinion that's not based on the constitution, show us the part of the constitution the president violated because the last time I checked and according to what the OP posted, the constitution is OK with the president's actions. Stop saying only state governors can do this and that, read the Nigerian constitution and stop making up your own tales, Is the Nigerian constitution illegal? |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by teepain: 7:54am On Mar 30, 2020 |
funmike83: I honestly appreciate your honesty. I remember reading your comment condemning the failure of PMB to address the nation before his national broadcast and I must say that your condemnation was justified. So, I am pleasantly surprised that you are expressing shock at the misadventure of some people here who are complaining about his directives on total lock down of Lagos and Abuja. What is clear to me, is that while some of us, genuinely criticize the President because we need him to act true to his office, some people just criticize and even wish evil to befall the country out of their hatred for the man; it is pathetic. Good morning. 1 Like |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by XshegzzyeeiX: 7:57am On Mar 30, 2020 |
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Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by koffsman(m): 7:58am On Mar 30, 2020 |
Can you also tell me the law and acts the president used in his speech to make such decisions on the states behalf we are all here to learn instead of you to chip in opinion on why you feel he has the right to do what he did you are here criticising what I wrote even the Op we had a good chat and we both came to a mature conclusion which is way better than what you dragging with me. Bros state you own opinion idealogical: |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by harveygordon: 8:00am On Mar 30, 2020 |
Oracle23: Nigeria has been existing since 1914. 1 Like |
Re: The Act That Gives The President The Power To Lock Down Lagos, Ogun & FCT. by teepain: 8:02am On Mar 30, 2020 |
manontree: Very sensible contribution. |
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