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Corrinthians:
That shouldn't be your business. Focus on your struggle and leave Nigerian affairs to Nigerians.

I noticed you hardly comment on posts concerning your little Supreme leader lately. Has the scales finally fallen off your eyes? Has it dawned on you he is nothing but a fraudster?

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shatap this one no dey cure impotency

Perkins2018:


If the south east fails to produce the pdp candidate and Osinbajo becomes the candidate, do you think any northern can defeat him in SS/SE? You take online banta too serious.

In 2023, PDP will field either a Northerner or someone from the SE as its Presidential candidate, Obasanjo and GEJ have already taken the slot of the SW and SS in PDP

If PDP fields someone from the the SE then Osibanjo should forget the SS/SE. On the other hand, if PDP fields a Northerner, maybe Atiku, then you will see Northerners desert APC and switch to PDP as that will represent their best chance of keeping the Presidency in the North

Either way, it not good for Osibanjo

Corrinthians:
That shouldn't be your business. Focus on your struggle and leave Nigerian affairs to Nigerians.

I noticed you hardly comment on posts concerning your little Supreme leader lately. Has the scales finally fallen off your eyes? Has it dawned on you he is nothing but a fraudster?

You mean Nnamdi Kanu? Nnamdi Kanu isnt the issue, he never was. The issue is the ideology of self determination. Even if there was no Nnamdi Kanu today, there will be still many Igbos like him that will rise up to propagate the ideology of the independence of Igbo land. The reasons why many Igbos such as me want Igbo land to be independent of Nigeria will still be there, Nnamdi Kanu or no Nnamdi Kanu

Perkins2018:


And who told you SS/SE won’t vote for him? Just because some ignorant hate filled ipob members say so? Politics is all about bargaining. I remember you all said the same about Gbaja, guess what? He got majority votes from SS/SE lawmakers. Osinbajo will win nothing less than 60% from SE/SS. Don’t kid yourself.

Only the South West know how to bargain other are fools.The greatest fool is the one who undermine other people's intelligence.let us wait till 2023

gidgiddy:


In 2023, PDP will field either a Northerner or someone from the SE as its Presidential candidate, Obasanjo and GEJ have already taken the slot of the SW and SS in PDP

If PDP fields someone from the the SE then Osibanjo should forget the SS/SE. On the other hand, if PDP fields a Northerner, maybe Atiku, then you will see Northerners desert APC and switch to PDP as that will represent their best chance of keeping the Presidency in the North

Either way, it not good for Osibanjo

Even if pdp presents a SE candidate, Osinbajo would still win some SS states. Your projection of the north is born out of primordial sentiments. Why didn’t they vote atiku in 2019 and extend their rule instead of buhari? You think politics is 1+1? Many northern politicians will not even want the region to retain the presidency for their own good.

Obiobidgbo14:

Only the South West know how to bargain other are fools.The greatest fool is the one who undermine other people's intelligence.let us wait till 2023

If the south east know how to bargain politically we would be talking of Igbo presidency in 2023 instead of Osinbajo now. First win the pdp ticket before anybody can take you serious.

gidgiddy:


What I see is that the North has no intention to concede power to the South. The Northern Elders Forum and the Arewa Consultative Forum have all said that Presidential rotation is not in the constitution and they do not recognize it. Power is very important to the North and they wont allow it to go down south for 8 years. Last time they did that with Obasanjo, they bitterly regretted it

In 2023, the Northerners will rally behind a fellow Northerner, no matter the party, and ensure he wins.

Osibanjo stands no chance as he will never be able to win votes outside his native SW

Northerners are not willing to give it to Igbos cos they don't trust them but don't forget obj gave it to them n they will do same so they can have it back conveniently again.

The law of power Nigerians are using against Igbos is "don't give power to a man on revenge mission" b4 anyone gives power to Igbos we must b convinced beyond reasonable doubt that I love us.

N as regards d issue of El Rufai,if only u know they love him,surely osinbajo will win the south west which will nullify anything coming from south east n I believe u know d SS are always politically open so they will get d senate President slot.
So tell me what PDP will do?

gidgiddy:


APC was all about getting President Jonathan out. APC would have never won if they hadnt fielded a Notherner like Buhari. Thats why the North voted for the party, for them, it was "operation bring back power to the North"

In 2023, there will be no Buhari and the North are not keen to lose power. If APC fields a Southerner like Osibanjo, then APC will be seen by the North as no longer representing their interests, which is about holding on to power as long as possible. The North will rally behind another Northerner and produce the president

No matter how much anyone thinks the North loves Osibanjo, they can never love him as much as one of their own remaining in power

If Osibanjo has no support from the North, how will he ever be president? The SS/SE wont vote for him and all the votes in the SW cannot make him president

I have more chances of visiting planet Mars than Osibanjo ever becoming President in 2023

so u believe if he picks VP from d north,d north won't support him?
D same way Atiku picked obi n south east supported him is d same way osinbajo will pick a northerner n northerners will support him

In case I don't know 2023 election will b north n south west vs SS n south east

gidgiddy:



You dont seem to get it. Even Buhari would rather have his fellow Northerner continue. The North only cares about retaining political power. If anyone is hoping that Buhari will deliver Osibanjo against the wishes of his own people is kidding themselves

u really don't understand Nigeria politics,check d first two positions n u will understand that it's rotational n once north is in d first 2 they don't care,they will go for d best they want

obj/Atiku- North in d equation
Yar'Adua/Jonathan- north in d equation
Jonathan/sambo-north in d equation
buhari/osinbajo-north in d equation
osinbajo/El Rufai-north still in d equation

Can u now see that it's a reality,n besides u believe north will present a president come next election. which region will they pick VP?u better don't mention south east cos u know how they avoided Atiku cos of obi

gidgiddy:


You make me laugh. Comparing a presidential election with house of rep elections in which less than 400 people vote. The SS/SE will not vote for Osibanjo for the following reasons.

1)Osibanjo is a nobody in the SS/SE

2)APC is not a popular party in the SS/SE

3)Most people in the SE/SS think it is pure mischief for the SW to be thinking about producing the President again after 8 years of Obasanjo considering the fact that the SE has not had it and the SS has only had one term.

So in the end, Osibanjo is going to rely on votes from the North and North can never love a Yoruba man like Osibanjo more than they love their own.

The chances of Osibanjo or any other Yoruba man becoming President in 2023 are next to zero

so Igbos loved a Fulani man more than their own when they voted Atiku instead of other Igbo contenders

u really don't know d meaning of politics of interest

so y did Yorubas vote buhari when sowore contested too?

So in your own opinion, you genuinely believe that in 2023, if Osinbajo contest as the flagbearer of the APC, the results will be like;


APC= 6 States

PDP= 30 States +FCT.










































#No single politician in the top echelon of the PDP, not even Atiku who is most likely to be the flagbearer of the PDP and the direct beneficiary of this superb, error proof expected victory of the PDP can be this optimistic.

Even with an overbearing Obasanjo at the head of the PDP with almighty Federal might at their disposal, the PDP has never won 31 States.

gidgiddy:


Well if APC fields Osibanjo in 2023 then you better hope that all the votes in SW can deliver Osibanjo because thats the only zone he has any hope of winning

Don't mind giddygiddy, his understanding of politics is very shallow.

Unik3030:
so Igbos loved a Fulani man more than their own when they voted Atiku instead of other Igbo contenders

u really don't know d meaning of politics of interest

so y did Yorubas vote buhari when sowore contested too?

You are fixated with what you percieved to be Osinbajo's weakness (his Yoruba ethnic groups) which you always compare with Atiku's perceived strength (his Northern identity).

It will be more objective if you compare strengths of Atiku Vs Strengths of Osinbajo and also compare weaknesses of Atiku Vs weaknesses of Osinbajo.

For the sake of simple analysis, let's assume the 2023 election is between

Osinbajo (APC) Vs Atiku(PDP)


Let me do some projections about the strengths/weaknesses of each candidate.


Atiku (PDP);

1) Strengths:
* Islamic religion,
* Appeal to SOME core Northerners
* Good understanding of the Private sector.
* Good connection across regional and tribal divides.
* Below expectation performance of the APC administration.

2) Weaknesses:

* Weakened Opposition party
* The Fulani identity:- Buhari the outgoing president and Atiku, the proposed incoming president are both Fulani men. Expect anti-Fulani resentments with fears of domination.

* Limited Funding of Presidential Campaigns.


Osinbajo/APC:-

1) Strengths
* Incumbent party controlling 21 States with political structures in every ward in Nigeria
* Incumbent Vice Presidency
* Federal Might
* Sound educational background
* Christianity
* Greater Funding of Campaign

2) Weaknesses

* Poor performance of the APC administration
* Yoruba ethnic identity: some voters will not vote for him just because of this.

gidgiddy:


In 2023, PDP will field either a Northerner or someone from the SE as its Presidential candidate, Obasanjo and GEJ have already taken the slot of the SW and SS in PDP

If PDP fields someone from the the SE then Osibanjo should forget the SS/SE. On the other hand, if PDP fields a Northerner, maybe Atiku, then you will see Northerners desert APC and switch to PDP as that will represent their best chance of keeping the Presidency in the North

Either way, it not good for Osibanjo

oyatz:
You are fixated with what you percieved to be Osinbajo's weakness (his Yoruba ethnic groups) which you always compare with Atiku's perceived strength (his Northern identity).

It will be more objective if you compare strengths of Atiku Vs Strengths of Osinbajo and also compare weaknesses of Atiku Vs weaknesses of Osinbajo.

For the sake of simple analysis, let's assume the 2023 election is between

Osinbajo (APC) Vs Atiku(PDP)


Let me do some projections about the strengths/weaknesses of each candidate.


Atiku (PDP);

1) Strengths:
* Islamic religion,
* Appeal to SOME core Northerners
* Good understanding of the Private sector.
* Good connection across regional and tribal divides.
* Below expectation performance of the APC administration.

2) Weaknesses:

* Weakened Opposition party
* The Fulani identity:- Buhari the outgoing president and Atiku, the proposed incoming president are both Fulani men. Expect anti-Fulani resentments with fears of domination.

* Limited Funding of Presidential Campaigns.


Osinbajo/APC:-

1) Strengths
* Incumbent party controlling 21 States with political structures in every ward in Nigeria
* Incumbent Vice Presidency
* Federal Might
* Sound educational background
* Christianity
* Greater Funding of Campaign

2) Weaknesses

* Poor performance of the APC administration
* Yoruba ethnic identity: some voters will not vote for him just because of this.

This is simple mathematics. If Osibanjo emerges APC presidential candidate in 2023, he will need to win majority votes in 4 of the 6 geopolitical zones.

Osibanjo has no hope of winning majority votes in the SE/SS. That leaves him with the SW and the North

Why would the North leave one their sons to vote Osibanjo?

If Osibanjo does not carry the entire North, he has no chance of being president because all the votes in the SW cannot give him the votes and spread to be president

gidgiddy:


This is simple mathematics. If Osibanjo emerges APC presidential candidate in 2023, he will need to win majority votes in 4 of the 6 geopolitical zones.

Osibanjo has no hope of winning majority votes in the SE/SS. That leaves him with the SW and the North

Why would the North leave one their sons to vote Osibanjo?

If Osibanjo does not carry the entire North, he has no chance of being president because all the votes in the SW cannot give him the votes and spread to be president

please answer this question

why did the south east leave Igbo contenders n voted Atiku in 2019?

Unik3030:
please answer this question

why did the south east leave Igbo contenders n voted Atiku in 2019?

In 2019, the SE was not interested in producing the President

gidgiddy:


In 2019, the SE was not interested in producing the President

between buhari n Atiku,who did south Easterners voted for?

Where in the Nigerian Constitution did you read that you need to win four Geopolitical zones? Are the Geopolitical zones in the Constitution? What is the definition of winning a Geo-Political zone? Is North in the Constitution?



The constitional requirements are as follows

1) HIGHEST number of votes (This is where Kano, Lagos, Katsina, Rivers, Kaduna, Oyo comes into play)

2) 25% of the votes cast in twenty four States.


With regards to the question of the North and their son;

* The North consist of 19 States, over 200 different tribes practicing different religions having different aspirations.

*The North is NOT a monolith entity .

Ordinarily, I don't see anything bad in a capable Fulani candidate succeeding another Fulani man as president but in Nigeria, this will raise dusts and this will start from the NORTH for these reasons;


1) Non-Fulani Northerners: There are several tribes in the North who rightly or wrongly feel the Fulanis are subjugating them politically, economically and socially.

The Buhari's Administration more than any regime espoused the supremacy of the Fulani tribe in Nigieria.

Asking these people to queue behind another Fulaniman to spend another 8years after Buhari to make 16 unbroken years of Fulani rule will not go down well with them.

2) The Hausa-Fulani: Class-A: These are Fulani supremacists who will only vote for a Fulani candidate (Atiku in this case)

Class-B: These are the Political Class who enjoy Fulani supremacy privileges but will not like to lose these supremacy built over the years on a myth that a Hausa-Fulani candidate will always defeat a Southern candidate.
However they will not like to subject this myth to any election that may possibly burst this myth.
Because of this factor, they won't support Atiku in 2023.

Class-C : These are Hausa-Fulani ambitious politicians who will not support Atiku because they too want to be president when power returns back to the North.

Some of these people may infact be warming up to serve as Vice President to Osinbajo or lobbying Osinbajo to make them Ministers, SGF, Chief of Staff etc.

gidgiddy:


This is simple mathematics. If Osibanjo emerges APC presidential candidate in 2023, he will need to win majority votes in 4 of the 6 geopolitical zones.

Osibanjo has no hope of winning majority votes in the SE/SS. That leaves him with the SW and the North

Why would the North leave one their sons to vote Osibanjo?

If Osibanjo does not carry the entire North, he has no chance of being president because all the votes in the SW cannot give him the votes and spread to be president