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Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by gidgiddy: 7:35pm On Apr 10, 2020
rexwalters:
If you know anything about the man Buhari he believes in loyalty, Osinbajo is loyal to a fault, only him can protect President Buhari's legacy, which he is part & parcel of, He is the next President, no one from Southern Nigeria will vote for a Northern candidate, no serious political party will field a Northerner, probably only Apga for Atiku, after Obiano leaves the party for Peter Obi when he finishes as Governor, and decamps to Apc. Wike, and all the south south Governor's will leave Pdp if anyone tries to impose a Northerner on them.


Lets assume that APC fields Osibanjo as Presidential candidate in 2023, where will Osibanjo get the votes to win? The SS/SE zone wont vote for him. All the votes of the SW cannot make him president. That leaves the North to decide. So why would the North support a Yoruba to become president when they could support one of their own to become President? Because of loyalty? Because Buhari wants it that way? The only thing the North cares about is power, and in 2023, both Buhari and loyalty wont mean as much to them as retaining power.

Osibanjo does not stand a chance in 2023 no matter the party he is running with
Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by Ikinternational: 7:39pm On Apr 10, 2020
idealogical:



Your vote was ineffective in 2015 so I don't see your vote making any difference in 2023.


Nice try though.

If that's the case, then why the constant headache on nairaland? Why all the fuming? Why all the angry replies?

Why won't you n your types simply ignore the threads since "they" are inconsequential

I like things that make sense. I can't be calling a girl pictures ugly but stay in her dm's

Nice try indeed
Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by rexwalters: 7:40pm On Apr 10, 2020
Esseite:


The North is tilting towards the SS.. its no Joke, GEJ may possibly denounce PDP membership in 2023 to become a full elder statesman..

It is not his nature, the man is a mistake on South south politics, he never had any say, he was chosen by Obasanjo to undermine us in the south south, an ordinary deputy Governor of backward Bayelsa State? A Zebra, can never do the chores of a donkey.
Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by Forex360(m): 7:42pm On Apr 10, 2020
The north love Osibanjo and they turned hi into VICE PRESIDENT {ACADEMIC)
Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by gidgiddy: 7:46pm On Apr 10, 2020
rexwalters:
Sorry to bust your long espistle, but you know nothing about Nigerian politics, no serious political party will choose anyone from the North, please tell me the Heavyweight weight political party that brought out a Southern candidate in the2019 Presidential election? It's all about calculation, President Buhari to preserve his legacy will single handedly with the assistance of Jagaban, and Oshiomole install Osinbajo as President.

President Buhari will be the 1st President in the history of Nigeria to hand over to his Vice, just be another number 1, to the President's cap, even Pdp & Yaradua on their death bed refused to hand over to Jonathan Ebele.


You dont seem to get it. Even Buhari would rather have his fellow Northerner continue. The North only cares about retaining political power. If anyone is hoping that Buhari will deliver Osibanjo against the wishes of his own people is kidding themselves
Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by ZombiePUNISHER: 7:47pm On Apr 10, 2020
idealogical:

Your vote was ineffective in 2015 so I don't see your vote making any difference in 2023.
Nice try though.


The North will leave their son and vote for a Yoruba fake pastor in 2023...

BTW... Where is Tinubu 2023... ACN?
Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by Nobody: 7:48pm On Apr 10, 2020
rexwalters:
It is not his nature, the man is a mistake on South south politics, he never had any say, he was chosen by Obasanjo to undermine us in the south south, an ordinary deputy Governor of backward Bayelsa State? A Zebra, can never do the chores of a donkey.

Well, all I know is he can deliver votes from both regions..
Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by rexwalters: 7:48pm On Apr 10, 2020
gidgiddy:



Lets assume that APC fields Osibanjo as Presidential candidate in 2023, where will Osibanjo get the votes to win? The SS/SE zone wont vote for him. All the votes of the SW cannot make him president. That leaves the North to decide. So why would the North support a Yoruba to become president when they could support one of their own to become President? Because of loyalty? Because Buhari wants it that way? The only thing the North cares about is power, and in 2023, both Buhari and loyalty wont mean as much to them as retaining power.

Osibanjo does not stand a chance in 2023 no matter the party he is running with
Apc does not need the south south or south east votes to win, it has been proven twice by President Buhari in 2015, and again in 2019, no matter what any myopic mind imagines, most intellectual thinkers know Presidential powers is coming down South, South West to be precise, Lagos, Ogun State(VP Osinbajo).

Osinbajo does not stand a chance in 2023 so you claim, the same thing you said about President Buhari in 2015, & 2019, don't mix sentiments with politics, wings of wax, you will get burnt.

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Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by gidgiddy: 7:51pm On Apr 10, 2020
rexwalters:
Apc does not need the south south or south east votes to win, it has been proven twice by President Buhari in 2015, and again in 2019, no matter what any myopic mind imagines, most intellectual thinkers know Presidential powers is coming down South, South West to be precise, Lagos, Ogun State(VP Osinbajo).

Well if APC fields Osibanjo in 2023 then you better hope that all the votes in SW can deliver Osibanjo because thats the only zone he has any hope of winning
Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by KingAzubuike(f): 7:51pm On Apr 10, 2020
We can't simply allow two dwarfs to lead this country.
Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by richidinho(m): 7:53pm On Apr 10, 2020
idealogical:



Your vote was ineffective in 2015 so I don't see your vote making any difference in 2023.


Nice try though.

Look at them, they don't learn
Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by Ikinternational: 7:55pm On Apr 10, 2020
Lots of funny characters on nairaland. One minute they're cursing the government. Next minute they're acting as if someone is fighting over the country with them.

Oya after you finish fighting for your Nigeria online your landlord still expects his rent on time. Your 'likes' are useless n worthless. Only Naira dey take o

Visa remains the best currency. Don't let that go over your head

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Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by rexwalters: 7:57pm On Apr 10, 2020
gidgiddy:


Well if APC fields Osibanjo in 2023 then you better hope that all the votes in SW can deliver Osibanjo because thats the only zone he has any hope of winning
Buhari will deliver Katsina, and 3/4 of Northern Nigeria, El Rufai will deliver Kaduna, wamako and tambuwal will deliver sokoto, Ganduje will deliver Kano, Governor Bulum, and past Governor Shettima will deliver Borno State, all other Apc Governor's in the north must deliver their states by hook, or by crook, Senate President Lawan will deliver Yobe, all Senators & House of Reps must deliver their wards, and States to Apc, don't worry you will be in agony till at least 2031.

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Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by oyatz(m): 7:58pm On Apr 10, 2020
Every major contender for the Presidency will have areas of strengths and weaknesses.


What you just described may be an area of weakness for Osinbajo in 2023 but there are several other factors that are areas of his strengths.





gidgiddy:


What I see is that the North has no intention to concede power to the South. The Northern Elders Forum and the Arewa Consultative Forum have all said that Presidential rotation is not in the constitution and they do not recognize it. Power is very important to the North and they wont allow it to go down south for 8 years. Last time they did that with Obasanjo, they bitterly regretted it

In 2023, the Northerners will rally behind a fellow Northerner, no matter the party, and ensure he wins.

Osibanjo stands no chance as he will never be able to win votes outside his native SW

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Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by hammer0: 7:58pm On Apr 10, 2020
I WILL NOT EVEN DIGNIFY THIS TRASH WITH A RESPONSE OR MY CONSIDERATION.


U KNOW WEN A PEOPLE ARE BUILDING THEMSELVES FOR A GREAT FALL, IT USUALLY INVOLVES TAKING SEVERAL STEPS BACK.



IN THIS CASE, BACK TO 2015.



THE YORUBA WILL HAVE A GREAT CRY COME 2023.
Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by oyatz(m): 8:01pm On Apr 10, 2020
It seems you have a better understanding of Nigerian politics than giddygiddy



Ezemust:
the north could'nt vote buhari in in 2011.the north collabo with south east n south south vote obj in.the north collabo with south west to vote buhari in 2011 and 19.no zone can put anybdy in pawa alone
Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by RitualistMan: 8:10pm On Apr 10, 2020
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rexwalters:
Buhari will deliver Katsina, and 3/4 of Northern Nigeria, El Rufai will deliver Kaduna, wamako and tambuwal will deliver sokoto, Ganduje will deliver Kano, Governor Bulum, and past Governor Shettima will deliver Borno State, all other Apc Governor's in the north must deliver their states by hook, or by crook, Senate President Lawan will deliver Yobe, all Senators & House of Reps must deliver their wards, and States to Apc, don't worry you will be in agony till at least 2031.
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Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by RitualistMan: 8:10pm On Apr 10, 2020
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rexwalters:
Apc does not need the south south or south east votes to win, it has been proven twice by President Buhari in 2015, and again in 2019, no matter what any myopic mind imagines, most intellectual thinkers know Presidential powers is coming down South, South West to be precise, Lagos, Ogun State(VP Osinbajo).

Osinbajo does not stand a chance in 2023 so you claim, the same thing you said about President Buhari in 2015, & 2019, don't mix sentiments with politics, wings of wax, you will get burnt.
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Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by RitualistMan: 8:11pm On Apr 10, 2020
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rexwalters:
It is not his nature, the man is a mistake on South south politics, he never had any say, he was chosen by Obasanjo to undermine us in the south south, an ordinary deputy Governor of backward Bayelsa State? A Zebra, can never do the chores of a donkey.
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Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by RitualistMan: 8:12pm On Apr 10, 2020
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rexwalters:
If you know anything about the man Buhari he believes in loyalty, Osinbajo is loyal to a fault, only him can protect President Buhari's legacy, which he is part & parcel of, He is the next President, no one from Southern Nigeria will vote for a Northern candidate, no serious political party will field a Northerner, probably only Apga for Atiku, after Obiano leaves the party for Peter Obi when he finishes as Governor, and decamps to Apc. Wike, and all the south south Governor's will leave Pdp if anyone tries to impose a Northerner on them.
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Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by RitualistMan: 8:15pm On Apr 10, 2020
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rexwalters:
Who is the North? President Buhari is handing over power to VP Osinbajo, Atiku & toothless Arewa can go and jump inside Oguta Lake.
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Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by Basher8583: 8:16pm On Apr 10, 2020
GamalNasser:


I voted Buhari in 2015 in 2019i voted Atiku and Buhari rigged

Tales of a serial looser
Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by RitualistMan: 8:17pm On Apr 10, 2020
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rexwalters:
You know your onions, couldn't be closer to the true facts. What will shock everyone is who he will choose as his running mate, believe me never El Rufai, he is too ambitious & powerful, and it's the North East turn to bring out the VP, North West Namadi Sambo (Kaduna), El Rufai (Kaduna), Buhari (Katsina), Yaradua (Katsina), A Kanuri, Shettima or Bulum from Borno State will be his running mate, even just to appease Boko Haram for a truce, the war has been going on for too long.
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Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by oyatz(m): 8:18pm On Apr 10, 2020
If Osinbajo wins APC presidential ticket in 2023, his candidacy will have strengths and weaknesses.

You are not being objective by having a fixed mindset on what you perceive will be his areas of weaknesses. You didn't consider what will be his areas of strengths.

If you want to do a clear, objective and unbiased analysis, you will have to do SWOT analysis of Osinbajo/APC candidacy.



Great leaders, Military Commanders, Political Juggernauts, Corporate Chief Executives and all highly successful people don't take critical decisions by thinking only in one fixed direction.

They even have extra plans for their own possible failures, they anticipate betrayals before it happen, they consider elements of surprise, they estimate the strengths and weaknesses of their opponents as well.





gidgiddy:


APC was all about getting President Jonathan out. APC would have never won if they hadnt fielded a Notherner like Buhari. Thats why the North voted for the party, for them, it was "operation bring back power to the North"

In 2023, there will be no Buhari and the North are not keen to lose power. If APC fields a Southerner like Osibanjo, then APC will be seen by 5he North as no longer representing their interests, which is about holding on to power as long as possible. The North will rally behind another Northerner and produce the president

No matter how much anyone thinks the North loves Osibanjo, they can never love him as much as one of their own remaining in power

If Osibanjo has no support from the North, how will he ever be president? The SS/SE wont vote for him and all the votes in the SW cannot make him president

I have more chances of visiting planet Mars than Osibanjo ever becoming President in 2023

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Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by Ezemust: 8:26pm On Apr 10, 2020
oyatz:
It seems you have a better understanding of Nigerian politics than giddygiddy



let the brotherhood btwn west n north continuo.but when the big brother strike a blow let non of them tell an outsider
Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by Ezemust: 8:41pm On Apr 10, 2020
rexwalters:
Buhari will deliver Katsina, and 3/4 of Northern Nigeria, El Rufai will deliver Kaduna, wamako and tambuwal will deliver sokoto, Ganduje will deliver Kano, Governor Bulum, and past Governor Shettima will deliver Borno State, all other Apc Governor's in the north must deliver their states by hook, or by crook, Senate President Lawan will deliver Yobe, all Senators & House of Reps must deliver their wards, and States to Apc, don't worry you will be in agony till at least 2031.
no be only govnor bulum,plus govnor bulugi
Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by RitualistMan: 9:01pm On Apr 10, 2020
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rexwalters:
How much did you collect?
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Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by RitualistMan: 9:01pm On Apr 10, 2020
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rexwalters:
Maybe senatorial position in Bayelsa, the man Jonathan was a mistake on Nigerian Politics, obasanjo made Jonathan VP to undermine the south south.
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Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by RitualistMan: 9:01pm On Apr 10, 2020
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efighter:


Very very likely. Presidency will not be won by empty threats, chest beating nor bullying. Only strategy and political alignment will win 2023 Presidency.
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Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by RitualistMan: 9:13pm On Apr 10, 2020
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rexwalters:
Sorry to bust your long espistle, but you know nothing about Nigerian politics, no serious political party will choose anyone from the North, please tell me the Heavyweight weight political party that brought out a Southern candidate in the2019 Presidential election? It's all about calculation, President Buhari to preserve his legacy will single handedly with the assistance of Jagaban, and Oshiomole install Osinbajo as President.

President Buhari will be the 1st President in the history of Nigeria to hand over to his Vice, just be another number 1, to the President's cap, even Pdp & Yaradua on their death bed refused to hand over to Jonathan Ebele. Pdp never again.
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Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by oyatz(m): 9:33pm On Apr 10, 2020
There is no need for speaking in parables sir.



Democracy is a process, it's not an event. Elections should be like a sport, those who win today may not win tomorrow.

Democracy in Nigeria goes beyond the 2023 presidential election which like all other elections will be contested by political parties and not regions/tribes.


1) Are ALL Northerners in the APC?

2) Are ALL Southwesterners in the APC?





Ezemust:
let the brotherhood btwn west n north continuo.but when the big brother strike a blow let non of them tell an outsider
Re: No Doubt This Is 2023. PICTURE. by idealogical: 10:26pm On Apr 10, 2020
Ezemust:
northern vote was ineffective in 99,003,007 and 11.time changes niggarr

What is this one saying? Speak English.

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