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Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:03pm On Apr 28, 2020
Pat Robertson Again Asserts: ‘No Way’ Earth Is 6,000 Years Old
By Heather Clark on April 28, 2020


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kGeAJGVmiA

In a recent episode of the “700 Club,” televangelist Pat Robertson was asked about his assertion that God took “billions” and “millions” of years to create the universe and Earth, and again claimed that there is “no way” that the Earth is 6,000 years old. Apologist Ken Ham of Answers in Genesis, who has many times expressed concern about Robertson’s views, says that Robertson is putting a “stumbling block” before others by not taking the creation account in Genesis literally and authoritatively.

On April 13, during the Q&A period of the broadcast, co-host Terry Meeuwsen read a question from a viewer about a statement in Robertson’s book “Ten Laws for Success.”

“Think of the patience of the Creator, who waited fourteen billion years to see His universe take shape,” the publication states. “Think of the hundreds of millions of years that God took to prepare our planet as a sustainable dwelling place for human being made in the image of God.”

The viewer, named Christy, noted that Genesis states that God created the heavens and the Earth in six days. She asked Robertson to expound on his view.

He began by stating that the time it takes for rotation varies, depending on which body is being referred to — that the Earth rotates in 24 hours, but the sun takes much longer and the universe takes even longer.

“I could say that the short Earth thing is wrong, but what I’ll say is: How do you count a day? What is a day? A day is how long it takes our planet to rotate one time, and that’s evening and morning, because it’s the way it faces the sun,” Robertson responded. “So, it turns. That’s 24 hours. That’s a day.”

“Now, what is a sun day? The sun has to turn. How long does it take the sun to turn? It must take a lot longer because it’s a great big planet,” he said. “Let’s assume it’s the universe. How long does it take for the universe to turn all the way around? A billion years? Ten billion years? How long does it take?”

Robertson then pointed to Scripture, which says in 2 Peter 3:8, “[O]ne day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.”

“You can be honest with Scripture and still, if you understand that a heavenly day, a universal day, is a long time,” he said.

“But the truth is — without question, without question — you cannot account for all the geological phenomenon, all the things that have been discovered, there is no way under Heaven that this Earth we live in could have taken place in 6,000 years,” Robertson asserted. “It couldn’t have possibly done it. But that’s how you reconcile with Scripture, all right?”

Ham

However, Ken Ham, president of the Kentucky-based Answers in Genesis, which defends a literal reading of the creation account and believes that the “compromise on Genesis has opened a dangerous door regarding how the culture and church view biblical authority,” refuted Robertson’s words on social media — as he has done in the past.

“Pat, the fact is, ‘There is no way under heaven that what you say is correct because you are telling God He got it wrong in His Word,'” Ham stated. “And the only Bible passage you mentioned you took out of context. 2 Peter 3:8 … is in the context of the Second Coming, explaining God is outside of time. This has ZERO to do with the days of creation.”

He said that Robertson relied more on man’s word for his response than what the God’s Word outlines is the meaning of a creation day.

“Pat, you didn’t use Genesis and what God actually states there to discuss the meaning of the Hebrew word for ‘day’ in the context in Genesis chapter one,” Ham noted. “Instead, you accept the pagan religion of millions of years and add that to God’s Word, thus undermining the authority of the Word of God.”

He lamented that Robertson is “putting a stumbling block before people in regard to them taking God’s Word seriously.”

“[L]et people who actually do believe God’s Word in Genesis and understand it to answer these questions. And most of what you said doesn’t make sense anyway in regard to the question asked by the viewer,” Ham asserted. “Oh, and the sun is not a planet; it’s a star.”

As previously reported, in 2018, Ham likewise pushed back against assertions made by conservative commentator Matt Walsh, who denies a young Earth like Robertson.

Ham asked how one can square billions of years with God’s Word in Exodus 20:11, which directed the people of Israel to rest on the seventh day of the week because “in six days the Lord made heaven and Earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day; wherefore, the Lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.”

“See, this is the problem with trying to fit billions of years into Genesis. It always ends up compromising the Bible in places outside of Genesis too,” Ham said. “So either we accept the whole Bible naturally, as it is written, or we reject the whole thing. Trying to fit the Bible with the secular timeline just does not work.”

Robertson, 90, has stated his views on a number of other occasions, including last September when similarly asked during Q &A if he believes that the Earth is billions of years old.

“A day is how long it takes the Earth to revolve — that’s one way of looking at it. But another day could be a lunar day — how long does it take for the moon to revolve around,” he said. “Another would be a solar day — how long does it take the sun to revolve. Another could be a galactic day — how long does it take a galaxy to move around. And a universal day would be how long does it take to traverse the entire universe.”

“And any of those could be a day,” Robertson contended. “The Bible doesn’t say a literal 24 hours. Okay?”

Last May, Robertson said that young Earth teaching is “nonsense” and “embarrassing.”

“Well, the truth is the dinosaurs were extinct maybe … about 50 billion years ago, and this planet has been [around] much longer than that,” he asserted. “And there was a course that they were trying to hustle around called creation science that was just nonsense, and it was so embarrassing, so we wanted to make sure we told the truth.”

“You know, this universe that we live in is about 14 billion years old and there’s no question about it,” Robertson claimed. “And we have tremendous geological records and all the rest of it. And that 6,000-year stuff just doesn’t compute. But we, as Christians, we need to know the truth.”

In describing the vastness of the universe, which He attributed to the hand of God, he then told viewers with a chuckle, “Let’s give God the credit for what He did and not try to limit Him to 6,000 years.”

In 2012, Robertson responded to a viewer who was afraid that her husband and teenage sons might leave the faith, including because of questions they had surrounding the existence of dinosaurs.

“[I]f you fight revealed science, you’re going to lose your children, and I believe in telling them the way it was,” Robertson remarked.

Romans 3:4 states,”[L]et God be true but every man a liar.”

https://christiannews.net/2020/04/28/pat-robertson-again-asserts-no-way-earth-is-6000-years-old/

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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by petra1(m): 7:55am On Apr 29, 2020
He's correct
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:21pm On Apr 29, 2020
petra1:


He's correct

Who is correct, Pat or Ken? undecided
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 12:59pm On Apr 29, 2020
He said that Robertson relied more on man’s word for his response than what the God’s Word outlines is the meaning of a creation day.
Ham must be one of those people who ignorantly believes God personally wrote the Bible and not humans. I'm certain his copy must have come off God's printing press in heaven, but I can't help wondering why God chose English instead of creating us all with one godly language.

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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by petra1(m): 1:09pm On Apr 29, 2020
OLAADEGBU:


Who is correct, Pat or Ken? undecided

I didnt read it . I only responded to the title
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:37pm On Apr 29, 2020
petra1:


I didnt read it . I only responded to the title

Are you saying that Pastor Chris endorses Pat's ideology? undecided
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:41pm On Apr 29, 2020
budaatum:


Ham must be one of those people who ignorantly believes God personally wrote the Bible and not humans. I'm certain his copy must have come off God's printing press in heaven, but I can't help wondering why God chose English instead of creating us all with one godly language.

Of course, God personally wrote the Bible and handed it out to humans in a language they can understand. If you call on Him He will speak to you in accents clear and still. cool

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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 1:51pm On Apr 29, 2020
OLAADEGBU:


Of course, God personally wrote the Bible and handed it out to humans in a language they can understand.
I can only smh@u for believing God who hates images will create an image in a book for you to worship as you do. But we both know you are bored and just seeking relevance by quoting buda instead of asking God for understanding of the Word you read.

I will keep you in my prayers and call on God on your behalf and maybe your eyes will open.

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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 1:53pm On Apr 29, 2020
Oh, and I already got me a copy and have shared it with you here.

Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:59pm On Apr 29, 2020
budaatum:


I can only smh@u for believing God who hates images will create an image in a book for you to worship as you do. But we both know you are bored and just seeking relevance by quoting buda instead of asking God for understanding of the Word you read.

I will keep you in my prayers and call on God on your behalf and maybe your eyes will open.

You must first be willing to obey His Word for you to know His Will. cool

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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by iluvMAMAV: 2:01pm On Apr 29, 2020
budaatum:

Ham must be one of those people who ignorantly believes God personally wrote the Bible and not humans. I'm certain his copy must have come off God's printing press in heaven, but I can't help wondering why God chose English instead of creating us all with one godly language.
Pls I want to talk 2 otem, because am so angry cos I have done things because of christianity ,fight people because of it without knowing I was been lied to, I have started preaching against A-Z of christianity, tell him I need to talk 2 eartum cos am burning in anger!
I no u are just one wicked Yoruba n not otem, and I don't know his real account cos he has 100s of it ...tell him pls
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by jared007: 2:10pm On Apr 29, 2020
The Earth is not 6000 years old but far older. It's scriptural. Get a good study Bible. The 6 day creation is actually recreation.

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Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 2:11pm On Apr 29, 2020
iluvMAMAV:
Pls I want to talk 2 otem, because am so angry cos I have done things because of christianity ,fight people because of it without knowing I was been lied to, I have started preaching against A-Z of christianity, tell him I need to talk 2 eartum cos am burning in anger!
I no u are just one wicked Yoruba n not otem, and I don't know his real account cos he has 100s of it ...tell him pls
So, in short, you are asking buda whom you claim is "one wicked Yoruba", to be kind to you and "tell him pls"?

I wonder if you'd pray to satan when you seek God's forgiveness?
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 2:17pm On Apr 29, 2020
OLAADEGBU:


You must first be willing to obey His Word for you to know His Will. cool
God's Will is very easy to know deg. It is in the Bible and was preached a lot many prophets and by Christ, but its obvious you would obey what you can't be bothered to understand, hence you going about peddling scorpions and serpents instead of the bread that gives life.

Do note that what you are asking to be obeyed is you and your own misunderstanding and that would involve disobeying God.

Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by petra1(m): 2:41pm On Apr 29, 2020
OLAADEGBU:


Are you saying that Pastor Chris endorses Pat's ideology? undecided

This is not about Pastor Chris or Pastor Kumuyi. Talk to Petra and stop name calling and name dropping
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:48pm On Apr 29, 2020
budaatum:

God's Will is very easy to know deg. It is in the Bible and was preached a lot many prophets and by Christ, but its obvious you would obey what you can't be bothered to understand, hence you going about peddling scorpions and serpents instead of the bread that gives life.

Do note that what you are asking to be obeyed is you and your own misunderstanding and that would involve disobeying God.

Stop misquoting scriptures you have no clue of and humble yourself, be prepared to obeying God's Will. It is only then that you will be able to address the topic at hand instead of usual personal attacks.

Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:50pm On Apr 29, 2020
petra1:


This is not about Pastor Chris or Pastor Kumuyi. Talk to Petra and stop name calling and name dropping

Then tell us why you think Pat Robertson is correct. cool
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 2:52pm On Apr 29, 2020
OLAADEGBU:


Stop misquoting scriptures you have no clue of and humble yourself, be prepared to obeying God's Will. It is only then that you will be able to address the topic at hand instead of usual personal attacks.
Why don't you let God be the judge of who follows God's Will instead of disguising your will as God's?
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:57pm On Apr 29, 2020
jared007:


The Earth is not 6000 years old but far older. It's scriptural. Get a good study Bible. The 6 day creation is actually recreation.

I realise that you are also a disciple of Pastor Chris. Please tell us why you think the earth is far older than 6,000 years. undecided
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by petra1(m): 3:01pm On Apr 29, 2020
OLAADEGBU:


Then tell us why you think Pat Robertson is correct. cool

I've done a thread on this before . I believe there was a pre adamite world of millions of years And there was a destruction . The earth can't be 6,000 years . The Bible was clear something led to the earth becoming void in Genesis 1:2

Jeremiah 4:23-26
23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void;
and the heavens, and they had no light.
24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled,
and all the hills moved lightly.
25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man,
and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness,
and all the cities thereof were broken down
at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger.
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:14pm On Apr 29, 2020
budaatum:


Why don't you let God be the judge of who follows God's Will instead of disguising your will as God's?

You still haven't told us why you think the earth older than 6,000 years or is it that you are just a blind believer of an old earth? undecided

Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:18pm On Apr 29, 2020
petra1:


I've done a thread on this before . I believe there was a pre adamite world of millions of years And there was a destruction . The earth can't be 6,000 years . The Bible was clear something led to the earth becoming void in Genesis 1:2

Jeremiah 4:23-26
23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void;
and the heavens, and they had no light.
24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled,
and all the hills moved lightly.
25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man,
and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness,
and all the cities thereof were broken down
at the presence of the Lord, and by his fierce anger.


Those verses are not about creation but of prophecy. Are you saying that God said all that He created was 'very good' when He 'recreated' on the pile of the fossils of dead bones who died of suffering, diseases and pain? undecided

Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 3:26pm On Apr 29, 2020
OLAADEGBU:


You still haven't told us why you think the earth older than 6,000 years or is it that you are just a blind believer of an old earth? undecided
I don't need to tell you the earth is billions of years old because I'm very content with you holding on to your ignorance. I'll even help you ignore Wisdom calling out to you in the public square and at the city gate because it is obvious you hate knowledge and delight in mockery and love your simple ways. I'm just glad you constantly fail in inflicting it on too many others.

Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by iluvMAMAV: 3:34pm On Apr 29, 2020
budaatum:

So, in short, you are asking buda whom you claim is "one wicked Yoruba", to be kind to you and "tell him pls"?

I wonder if you'd pray to satan when you seek God's forgiveness?


pls I was carried away by the way u support buhari who has dealt with us , but pls put me with his active monikker because am so hurt now,
Is like u don't even know him, Earth is 6000yrs n u call god here ...dats y u support buhari ,braindead human grin
..abeg where is otematum or otemanduno
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by petra1(m): 3:36pm On Apr 29, 2020
OLAADEGBU:

Are you saying that God said all that He created was 'very good' when He 'recreated' on the pile of the fossils of dead bones who died of suffering, diseases and pain? undecided

Well , It was judgement. And It will still happen again. He judged the world by destruction In the days of Noah. He's still going to repeat it after the tribulation and still reign in the new world that will exist over the piles .

Those verses are not about creation but of prophecy.

There's no place for such in the future. There wont be an extinction of life . In the battles of armageddon or the battles of Gog and magog. Animals won't be destroyed totally. There will be people that we will rule over in the new earth. So there wont be fresh creation . There will only be political change
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 3:41pm On Apr 29, 2020
iluvMAMAV:
pls I was carried away by the way u support buhari who has dealt with us , but pls put me with his active monikker because am so hurt now,
No, sorry. I refuse to do work on your behalf because it will just make you lazy, and you must know by now that like my bubu, buda does not feed lazy fuqs, (not that you are a fuq, just lazy, it would seem).
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by OtemAtum: 3:41pm On Apr 29, 2020
iluvMAMAV:
pls I was carried away by the way u support buhari who has dealt with us , but pls put me with his active monikker because am so hurt now,
Is like u don't even know him, Earth is 6000yrs n u call god here ...dats y u support buhari ,braindead human grin
..abeg where is otematum or otemanduno
Why are you asking for me?
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by iluvMAMAV: 4:08pm On Apr 29, 2020
OtemAtum:
Why are you asking for me?
pls because I have humanity at heart , I have been preaching against the lies ( about nymphidis & faulkin) ...see I have done a lot for Christianity even fighting those who don't believe in God ...I am d one engages in d study of universe to imagine the greatness of nymphidis ...but all dis just hurt me deeply , and I dedicate myself to preach against it ,yes some people even my girlfriend despise me but , truth which I love since my childhood has kept me stubborn, yes some agrees to it but just few, if see how angry I am, 4 been a fool, I have seen few of wat u wrote maybe because I don't know how to pray at all....pls tell eartum that am so hurt right now, but some thinks am stupid because am still jobless( if dis truth would avoid come 2 me by 9yrs ,I would av been a billionaire now, I was a fool)
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by iluvMAMAV: 4:12pm On Apr 29, 2020
budaatum:

No, sorry. I refuse to do work on your behalf because it will just make you lazy, and you must know by now that like my bubu, buda does not feed lazy fuqs, (not that you are a fuq, just lazy, it would seem).
let curses locate u anywhere u are i.diot , do you know me ? How dare you insult me , and call me lazy are u mad? U stay in ur useless comfort to assume someone is lazy , ...I don't blame u ,if not ... Let me keep quiet
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 4:15pm On Apr 29, 2020
iluvMAMAV:
let curses locate u anywhere u are i.diot , do you know me ? How dare you insult me , and call me lazy are u mad? U stay in ur useless comfort to assume someone is lazy , ...I don't blame u ,if not ... Let me keep quiet
Curses from a lazy fuq like you would never affect me. My comfort is lazy fuq immune.
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by iluvMAMAV: 4:16pm On Apr 29, 2020
budaatum:

No, sorry. I refuse to do work on your behalf because it will just make you lazy, and you must know by now that like my bubu, buda does not feed lazy fuqs, (not that you are a fuq, just lazy, it would seem).
I always knew u are useless n wicked ,but I called u because I saw atum in ur name n I thought u are one of d followers of otem but u are just one idiotic creatu.re, no good being and an empty vessel, I no I will be banned but no problem
Re: Pat Robertson Again Asserts: "No Way Earth Is 6,000 Years Old" by budaatum: 4:18pm On Apr 29, 2020
OtemAtum:
Why are you asking for me?
Otem, I think this lazy fuq needs to learn about Christianity before being able to understand atum, but I will have faith in your wisdom.

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