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Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by Maximus69: 5:09pm On May 16
OLAADEGBU:


I know that cults and false religions equally enjoy the religious freedom Christians enjoy but that's where the free ride ends. Where they get banned your sect become unstuck, unable to hawk their Awake, Watchtower magazines, a main condition for there being saved.

Banning in one place doesn't stop Jesus' followers from moving to another place! Matthew 10:23

You'll notice that you're empty as you keep arguing based on human wisdom you can't even quote a single Bible quotation to support your notion! Isaiah 54:17 compare to Matthew 10:19

Jehovah's Witnesses, may God continue to bless you people for me! smiley

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Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by Janosky: 6:46pm On May 16
OLAADEGBU:



Oh lala !!
OLAADEGBU now understands that his Cult gods of men prophecy is blah blah blah blah !

Hallelujah
grin grin
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:15pm On May 16
Maximus69:


Banning in one place doesn't stop Jesus' followers from moving to another place! Matthew 10:23

It's true that it doesn't stop Jesus' followers but you are not Jesus followers which explains why you don't call yourself as such.

Maximus69:


You'll notice that you're empty as you keep arguing based on human wisdom you can't even quote a single Bible quotation to support your notion! Isaiah 54:17 compare to Matthew 10:19

Why should I quote scriptures that I know you have no regard for other than to twist, deny, doubt and disobey?

Maximus69:


Jehovah's Witnesses, may God continue to bless you people for me! smiley

Jangilova Wickedness best describes your sect as image123 has rightly stated. You lied against Pastor Kumuyi, you lied against President Trump. You even lied against your sect when you falsely stated that JW is not a charity organisation and when you include all the lies your sect propagates in the name of witnessing that are set to contradict the doctrines of Christ then you should rightfully answer to your Jangilova Wickedness that you've been named.
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by Maximus69: 9:29pm On May 16
OLAADEGBU:


It's true that it doesn't stop Jesus' followers but you are not Jesus followers which explains why you don't call yourself as such.



Why should I quote scriptures that I know you have no regard for other than to twist, deny, doubt and disobey?



Jangilova Wickedness best describes your sect as image123 has rightly stated. You lied against Pastor Kumuyi, you lied against President Trump. You even lied against your sect when you falsely stated that JW is not a charity organisation and when you include all the lies your sect propagates in the name of witnessing that are set to contradict the doctrines of Christ then you should rightfully answer to your Jangilova Wickedness that you've been named.

At least we are peacefully going with our own faith we don't call for BANNING any of people's gathering!

We are not religious fanatics! cheesy
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by OLAADEGBU(m): 9:54pm On May 16
Maximus69:


At least we are peacefully going with our own faith we don't call for BANNING any of people's gathering!

We are not religious fanatics! cheesy

Your sect should be proscribed. cool

Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by Maximus69: 9:57pm On May 16
OLAADEGBU:


Your sect should be proscribed. cool

BANNING! Comes from fanatics! Luke 6:45 wink
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:00pm On May 16
Maximus69:


BANNING! Comes from fanatics! Luke 6:45 wink

Quit quoting scriptures you detest.

Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by Image123(m): 12:14am On May 17
Who called me? BTW, why do JWs make all effort to be despicable almost for no reason? See how this fellow has been literally drooling over pastor or apostle that has no bearing on the issue on hand.
Anyway, a Christian should be accountable or faithful. So he/she should be subject to some level of discipline. But permanent ban is too far in my opinion if he or she has repented. 70 times 7 carries this one. We Christians tend to look at the fellow CAUGHT in adultery like the biblical Pharisees. Meanwhile, we permit other pastors/ministers who are frequently proud, liars, extortioners, flirts, thieves, blasphemers. Many people do these countless times a month and mount the pulpit to minister. But if one commits adultery once in 20years, we want to stone him to death publicly. All are sins before God. We are the ones that graded adultery as number 1 on the scale, not God.
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:22am On May 17
Image123:


Who called me? BTW, why do JWs make all effort to be despicable almost for no reason? See how this fellow has been literally drooling over pastor or apostle that has no bearing on the issue on hand.

My brother I had to conjure you up to come and deal with this 'Jangilova of wickedness' that is running rampage here. cheesy

Image123:


Anyway, a Christian should be accountable or faithful. So he/she should be subject to some level of discipline. But permanent ban is too far in my opinion if he or has repented. 70 times 7 carries this one.

I am being specific to a Christian who has risen to the post of a pastor here. Should he be restored to his former position especially if he has repented and forgiven and even disciplined from a sexual offence on a minor, for instance? Would you be able to sit under his ministration if you or your loved ones were victims of this repentant sexual predator? Would you report him to the police even though you have notified the church elders?
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:31am On May 17
Image123:


We Christians tend to look at the fellow CAUGHT in adultery like the biblical Pharisees. Meanwhile, we permit other pastors/ministers who are frequently proud, liars, extortioners, flirts, thieves, blasphemers. Many people do these countless times a month and mount the pulpit to minister. But if one commits adultery once in 20years, we want to stone him to death publicly. All are sins before God. We are the ones that graded adultery as number 1 on the scale, not God.

The secular authorities in the Western world would punish a man who is a Paedophile (sexual predator), who takes advantage of minors and list them on the sexual offence register. They would no longer be in a position to abuse minors again but in the case of the church of God this sexual predator would be asked to repent and be disciplined only for him to be restored after they are satisfied that he has been disciplined enough. He will be restored to the same position as a pastor and many go on to repeat the offence on these vulnerable ones. Now tell me who has a better moral standard, the world who safeguards the vulnerable or the church who exposes the vulnerables to these vultures waiting to pounce?
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by Image123(m): 12:41am On May 17
OLAADEGBU:


My brother I had to conjure you up to come and deal with this 'Jangilova of wickedness' that is running rampage here. cheesy



I am being specific to a Christian who has risen to the post of a pastor here. Should he be restored to his former position especially if he has repented and forgiven and even disciplined from a sexual offence on a minor, for instance? Would you be able to sit under his ministration if you or your loved ones were victims of this repentant sexual predator? Would you report him to the police even though you have notified the church elders?



cheesy cheesy Brother, don't mind that guy. It seems the current ban on gatherings gave him maximum boredom. He's probably itching to sell some awake. i feel his pain.
Yes for a pastor, he has not outgrown forgiveness, same way he should not outgrow discipline and correction. Since it is not categorically stated in scriptures, he should be forgiven and restored. We saw God forgive and restore Nebuchadnezzar, David, Samson, Peter,Aaron, Miriam etc. These all committed sin and were corrected. i'm not sure there's any bible verse that elevate adultery above other sins. If God that he primarily offended has forgiven him, why should i cry more than the bereaved?
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by Image123(m): 12:47am On May 17
OLAADEGBU:


The secular authorities in the Western world would punish a man who is a Paedophile (sexual predator), who takes advantage of minors and list them on the sexual offence register. They would no longer be in a position to abuse minors again but in the case of the church of God this sexual predator would be asked to repent and be disciplined only for him to be restored after they are satisfied that he has been disciplined enough. He will be restored to the same position as a pastor and many go on to repeat the offence on these vulnerable ones. Now tell me who has a better moral standard, the world who safeguards the vulnerable or the church who exposes the vulnerables to these vultures waiting to pounce?

A forgiven sinner saved by grace is just as saved as every saved soul, not a vulture. Just like Paul the chief sinner who wrecked havoc on the church, he can boldly say "we have wronged no man". Old things passed away literally. That is the stunning beautification of the vilest offender who truly believes.
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:18am On May 17
Image123:



cheesy cheesy Brother, don't mind that guy. It seems the current ban on gatherings gave him maximum boredom. He's probably itching to sell some awake. i feel his pain.

cheesy cheesy

Image123:


Yes for a pastor, he has not outgrown forgiveness, same way he should not outgrow discipline and correction. Since it is not categorically stated in scriptures, he should be forgiven and restored. We saw God forgive and restore Nebuchadnezzar, David, Samson, Peter,Aaron, Miriam etc. These all committed sin and were corrected. i'm not sure there's any bible verse that elevate adultery above other sins. If God that he primarily offended has forgiven him, why should i cry more than the bereaved?

There is no doubt that he can be forgiven but should there not be justice for the victim? Should the victim(s) not see justice served? Is God only a merciful God, is He not also a God of justice? Should Justice not be seen to be served? undecided
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:21am On May 17
Image123:


A forgiven sinner saved by grace is just as saved as every saved soul, not a vulture. Just like Paul the chief sinner who wrecked havoc on the church, he can boldly say "we have wronged no man". Old things passed away literally. That is the stunning beautification of the vilest offender who truly believes.

What did Paul say to be done to the believer who committed adultery with his step mother? undecided
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by Maximus69: 3:11am On May 17
When Satan quote scriptures for his own purpose Jesus also quoted scriptures to silence him, both of them lived in heaven before so they both have the right to quote their father.

So your inability to quote fitting scriptures shows your incompetency and lack of faith in God's word!

What you carry in your head is man-made doctrines! cheesy

OLAADEGBU:


Quit quoting scriptures you detest.
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by Image123(m): 3:13am On May 17
OLAADEGBU:


cheesy cheesy



There is no doubt that he can be forgiven but should there not be justice for the victim? Should the victim(s) not see justice served? Is God only a merciful God, is He not also a God of justice? Should Justice not be seen to be served? undecided

i don't think the church is a law court. If Paul got justice from the church, he should be dead for killing people.

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Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by Image123(m): 3:17am On May 17
OLAADEGBU:


What did Paul say to be done to the believer who committed adultery with his step mother? undecided

i believe you refer to 1Corinth 5v1 to 9. In the passage, Paul was not referring to a believer but to a fornicator belonging to satan.

1Co 5:9 KJV I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by Maximus69: 3:22am On May 17
Image123:



cheesy cheesy Brother, don't mind that guy. It seems the current ban on gatherings gave him maximum boredom. He's probably itching to sell some awake. i feel his pain.
Yes for a pastor, he has not outgrown forgiveness, same way he should not outgrow discipline and correction. Since it is not categorically stated in scriptures, he should be forgiven and restored. We saw God forgive and restore Nebuchadnezzar, David, Samson, Peter,Aaron, Miriam etc. These all committed sin and were corrected. i'm not sure there's any bible verse that elevate adultery above other sins. If God that he primarily offended has forgiven him, why should i cry more than the bereaved?

Glory be to our most righteous God in the heavens! smiley

Now i'm certain that you're ignorant of true Christianity. So you think JWs sells magazines!

Well for your information, millions who were misinformed about our activities are now trooping in to accept the truth. We can give you a copy of the magazine for life without you paying a dime. What we do is to be certain that you value it, that's why certain amount was placed on each publication but ask your neighbour studying with JWs today how much they paid for our publications.

Go and do that now!

Apostle Paul said "make sure of all things" 1Thessalonians 5:21
Instead of deluding yourself with false reasoning! smiley
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by Maximus69: 3:30am On May 17
Image123:


i believe you refer to 1Corinth 5v1 to 9. In the passage, Paul was not referring to a believer but to a fornicator belonging to satan.

1Co 5:9 KJV I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:

See this mumu! cheesy

Who gave Paul (vilified by his own people) the impetus to question a sinner if the fornicator is not a believer? 1Corinthians 5:11-12 cheesy

My guy come and let's teach you the truth of God's word. Christians only had penalty for what they've agreed upon, they had no audacity to question someone who doesn't subscribe to their line of thought! 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3 smiley

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Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by Chosen1984(m): 4:04pm On May 17
OLAADEGBU:


This is one of the reasons the world does not take the church serious. undecided
If the World likes, they take it serious!

Salvation is not a Church , Community or Country Race! Salvation is a Personal Race!

If you don't take GOD Serious, you tell HIM your Reason when you cross over
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by Image123(m): 11:15pm On May 17
Maximus69:


Glory be to our most righteous God in the heavens! smiley

Now i'm certain that you're ignorant of true Christianity. So you think JWs sells magazines!

Well for your information, millions who were misinformed about our activities are now trooping in to accept the truth. We can give you a copy of the magazine for life without you paying a dime. What we do is to be certain that you value it, that's why certain amount was placed on each publication but ask your neighbour studying with JWs today how much they paid for our publications.

Go and do that now!

Apostle Paul said "make sure of all things" 1Thessalonians 5:21
Instead of deluding yourself with false reasoning! smiley

Clown grin
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by Image123(m): 11:17pm On May 17
Maximus69:


See this mumu! cheesy

Who gave Paul (vilified by his own people) the impetus to question a sinner if the fornicator is not a believer? 1Corinthians 5:11-12 cheesy

My guy come and let's teach you the truth of God's word. Christians only had penalty for what they've agreed upon, they had no audacity to question someone who doesn't subscribe to their line of thought! 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3 smiley

You overrate yourself, get a life.
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by Maximus69: 11:43pm On May 17
Image123:


You overrate yourself your group, get a life.

We have only one life to bear the torture stake! Luke 9:23

Whether we live or die, it's for Jesus! 2Corinthians 5:15

So live your life Sir, we know whom we owe our life to! smiley
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by Image123(m): 11:53pm On May 17
Maximus69:


We have only one life to bear the torture stake! Luke 9:23

Whether we live or die, it's for Jesus! 2Corinthians 5:15

So live your life Sir, we know whom we owe our life to! smiley

Jangilova wickedness is living for Jesus, Na wa oh. New things every day. cheesy Who wants to torture you? Is selling awake to be happy not enough a self and kingdom hall inflicted torture on its own. Who sent you into the sun with heavy bags loaded with awake? Now, you're accusing others of torture?
For safety sake, I'll have to henceforth ignore you as dante gave advice. i never knew you were on the torture stake by my response. Who knows, i don't want you to end it. Then the NCDC may Jack up dem numbers and scare us all.
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by Maximus69: 4:54am On May 18
Image123:


Jangilova wickedness is living for Jesus, Na wa oh. New things every day. cheesy Who wants to torture you? Is selling awake to be happy not enough a self and kingdom hall inflicted torture on its own. Who sent you into the sun with heavy bags loaded with awake? Now, you're accusing others of torture?
For safety sake, I'll have to henceforth ignore you as dante gave advice. i never knew you were on the torture stake by my response. Who knows, i don't want you to end it. Then the NCDC may Jack up dem numbers and scare us all.

Hmmmmmmmm the misinterpretation of KJV!

Instead of the stake designed to torture condemned criminals to death in ancient Rome, orthodox Churches of Christendom told you is CROSS, after all you guys won't make further research to verify if it's so or not! undecided

Nevertheless you should have presented what you know instead of looking for ways to shut down others from airing their own views, but all the same thanks for your time! smiley
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:38pm On May 23
Chosen1984:


If the World likes, they take it serious!

Salvation is not a Church , Community or Country Race! Salvation is a Personal Race!

If you don't take GOD Serious, you tell HIM your Reason when you cross over

God is a God of Love and Justice. Justice must be seen to be done.

Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by orisa37: 11:21pm On May 23
SUCH PASTORS AREN'T BORN OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND WILL BE VERY DANGEROUS TO THE PROFESSION.
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by madegreatbygrace(m): 5:17am On May 24
[quote author=OLAADEGBU post=89885322]

God is a God of Love and Justice. Justice must be seen to be done.




What is the justice of God?

Second, how is justice, with respect to God different from vengeance?
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:56pm On May 24
orisa37:


SUCH PASTORS AREN'T BORN OF THE HOLY SPIRIT AND WILL BE VERY DANGEROUS TO THE PROFESSION.

Are you saying such pastors were born against? cheesy
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by OLAADEGBU(m): 4:59pm On May 24
madegreatbygrace:


What is the justice of God?

Second, how is justice, with respect to God different from vengeance?

Can you also explain what it means for justice to be seen to be carried out by an earthly judge here on earth? undecided
Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:08pm On May 24
Maximus69:


Hmmmmmmmm the misinterpretation of KJV!

Instead of the stake designed to torture condemned criminals to death in ancient Rome, orthodox Churches of Christendom told you is CROSS, after all you guys won't make further research to verify if it's so or not! undecided

Nevertheless you should have presented what you know instead of looking for ways to shut down others from airing their own views, but all the same thanks for your time! smiley

The Bible is self evident in proving that Jesus was nailed on a cross. I remember proving this to you but you chose to look the other way believing on a non existent stake. Like I said earlier, you are a believer of your Watchtower magazine and not a believer in the Holy Bible. The Bible calls you an idolater. I have now proved you on this forum how you are not only a liar but also an idolater. Repent and believe the gospel truth.

Re: Should Pastors Who Commit Adultery Be Permanently Banned From Ministry? by orisa37: 9:00pm On May 24
OLAADEGBU:


Are you saying such pastors were born against? cheesy


The Holy Spirit. Yes.

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