In that case,the affected spouse can leave until the other spouse is truly saved. Both of them can't remarry either.

paxonel:
it is good for divorced couples to forgive and reconcile no doubt. But what if for example the man keeps batters the woman and subject her to domestic violence as a result of that there is break up, will you advice that the woman should go back to the man and continue to endure the domestic violence in the name of keeping her marriage?

Please give your sincere answer

HeavenlyHolines:
In that case,the affected spouse can leave until the other spouse is truly saved. Both of them can't remarry either.

That is it.

God bless you for that answer sir.

HeavenlyHolines:
In that case,the affected spouse can leave until the other spouse is truly saved. Both of them can't remarry either.

it is the fault of the man that the marriage was resolved, but the woman didn't do anything wrong. Why then is she subjected into the torment of waiting till her ex-husband dies before she remarry again and regain the happiness that she has lost?
Don't you think this is wrong and it is a huge injustice?

Uwc. That's y as unmarried, don't follow the ideology of the world in term of marriage. Aside from been matured in age,the first thing is to b matured spiritually.

MFMRevivalist:


That is it.

God bless you for that answer sir.

HeavenlyHolines:
Uwc. That's y as unmarried, don't follow the ideology of the world in term of marriage. Aside from been matured in age,the first thing is to b matured spiritually.

Yeah. spiritual maturity is very important and necessary.in matters concerning marriage.

Calm down. There is nothing that befell a covenant child of God that God doesn't reveal to them. If u check d heroes of faith,they saw the end of t their life from the beginning. So if she prayed before entering into it,I believe God must have spoken to her about it.
Isaiah 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.
Coz a times we might judge afar off n might not know d genesis from the heart of people. Since the issues has gotten to this level, there is nothing God can't do. Maybe that is her cross n God has a way of refining us through persecution and trial. So the grace of God is available to keep her and prayer is there to changed the man.
1 Peter 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 3:2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
3:14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;
3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: 3:16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
3:17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.
3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

paxonel:
it is the fault of the man that the marriage was resolved, but the woman didn't do anything wrong. Why then is she subjected into the torment of waiting till her ex-husband dies before she remarry again and regain the happiness that she has lost?
Don't you think this is wrong and it is a huge injustice?

The world have their own method. Some will say testing(sex) before trusting(marriage). Getting pregnant first to be sure u r not barren etc. We don't marry because we want to. Our aim is to fulfil God's will on earth. The way he designed Abraham n Zachariah who gave birth in their old age is different from David and Solomon who gave birth to many children. The way he delayed Hannah and Sarah from having children might be different from Peninah and Leah Your prayers is Lord, help me to fulfill ur will here on earth coz when u get to heaven, they wouldn't ask u about ur marriage or the number of children. U will b remembered by what u have done on earth n how u have fulfill God's will

Eulalia:


Yeah. spiritual maturity is very important and necessary.in matters concerning marriage.

HeavenlyHolines:
Calm down. There is nothing that befell a covenant child of God that God doesn't reveal to them. If u check d heroes of faith,they saw the end of t their life from the beginning. So if she prayed before entering into it,I believe God must have spoken to her about it.
Isaiah 30:21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.
Coz a times we might judge afar off n might not know d genesis from the heart of people. Since the issues has gotten to this level, there is nothing God can't do. Maybe that is her cross n God has a way of refining us through persecution and trial. So the grace of God is available to keep her and prayer is there to changed the man.
1 Peter 3:1 Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 3:2 While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
3:14 But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;
3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: 3:16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
3:17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.
3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:

so, your conclusion is that the woman should keep suffering for the wrong she didn't do calling it persecution?



Thank you very much,
I rest my case here.

HeavenlyHolines:
The world have their own method. Some will say testing(sex) before trusting(marriage). Getting pregnant first to be sure u r not barren etc[b]. We don't marry because we want to. Our aim is to fulfil God's will on earth[/b]. The way he designed Abraham n Zachariah who gave birth in their old age is different from David and Solomon who gave birth to many children. The way he delayed Hannah and Sarah from having children might be different from Peninah and Leah Your prayers is Lord, help me to fulfill ur will here on earth coz when u get to heaven, they wouldn't ask u about ur marriage or the number of children. U will b remembered by what u have done on earth n how u have fulfill God's will

Spot on, bro. Even some Christians don't know @ the bolded. May the Holy Spirit guide us aright.

Thanks Bro.

If I interview the person very well,u will know the actual truth. Same thing happened to my sister.
1 Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

paxonel:
so, your conclusion is that the woman should keeping suffering for the wrong she didn't do calling it persecution?



Thank you very much,
I rest my case here.

HeavenlyHolines:
If I interview the person very well,u will know the actual truth. Same thing happened to my sister.
1 Corinthians 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

when your sister saw another man who wanted to marry her after she felt her ex-husband who used to subject her into a domestic violence, you advised her not to marry the new guy, is that what you did ?

That was very ridiculous and inconsiderate of you, If she end up knowing the truth she will never forgive you. You have to pray for God's forgiveness for that terrible sin you committed against your sister

Mine sister own wasn't domestic violence. The guy went away through online love scam. She was warned by my mum with tears when she brought d guy but she was carried away by lust. Now,she is carrying her cross with her baby n she is doing very well. Maybe God is using it to teach her a lesson to always seek his face before embarking on anything. Concerning remarriage,we r born again Christians n we don't support it while the person is still alive

paxonel:
when your sister saw another man who wanted to marry her after she felt her ex-husband who used to subject her into a domestic violence, you advised her not to marry the new guy, is that what you did ?

That was very ridiculous and inconsiderate of you, If she end up knowing the truth she will never forgive you. You have to pray for God's forgiveness for that terrible sin you committed against your sister

Eulalia:
Is it right for a bornagain sis to marry a divorced Christian bro that the ex wife is still alive?
As in, lets say the Bro is a real believer but just got out of a young marriage not up to a year due to infidelity issues.
If the brother has been refunded the dowry and other things. Is he free to remarry. And if he's a pastor.

Please urgent answers from mature ones.
Thank you.

The answers are plainly written in these scriptures.

Romans 7:2-3

1 Corinthians 7: 10,11,39

MrPRevailer:


The answers are plainly written in these scriptures.

Romans 7:2-3

1 Corinthians 7: 10,11,39

Ok. Thanks.

HeavenlyHolines:
Concerning remarriage,we r born again Christians n we don't support it while the person is still alive

If you are asked to explain why you don't support it you will find yourself not having anything to say.
All you will say is, i saw it that way in the bible.

These are one of the laws the church of this modern day should deal with.
I mean, the church can't afford to continue reading what is wrong in the bible and let it be part of them, it's so ridiculous, even God in heaven will never accept that.

Do you know that even Muslims also read somewhere in their Quran that they should kill infidels anywhere they find them?
They cannot help but find themselves killing and maiming people because that is what they saw in their Quran, and they are very holy or born again doing it, that is the origin of terrorism.
The same thing with Christians, Christians feels very holy or born again when they stay unmarried until their ex-spouse is dead, does that make sense?
Does it occur to you people that God created man with emotional and sexual needs ?
Why will anyone be subjected into an emotional torment all in the name of keeping religious laws who were created by fellow humans?

what is wrong is wrong, and what is right is right, they really do not depend on religion but rather, they depend on what is in the mind known as conscience.

That's why Christ categorically says, all power has been given to us, which includes the right to choose what is right against all odds and steak to it.

paxonel:

If you are asked to explain why you don't support it you will find yourself not having anything to say.
All you will say is, i saw it that way in the bible.

These are one of the laws the church of this modern day should deal with.
I mean, the church can't afford to continue reading what is wrong in the bible and let it be part of them, it's so ridiculous, even God in heaven will never accept that.

Do you know that even Muslims also read somewhere in their Quran that they should kill infidels anywhere they find them?
They cannot help but find themselves killing and maiming people because that is what they saw in their Quran, and they are very holy or born again doing it, that is the origin of terrorism.
The same thing with Christians, Christians feels very holy or born again when they stay unmarried until their ex-spouse is dead, does that make sense?
Does it occur to you people that God created man with emotional and sexual needs ?
Why will anyone be subjected into an emotional torment all in the name of keeping religious laws who were created by fellow humans?

what is wrong is wrong, and what is right is right, they really do not depend on religion but rather, they depend on what is in the mind known as conscience.

That's why Christ categorically says, all power has been given to us, which includes the right to choose what is right against all odds and steak to it.

The more reason you should not divorce in the first place.

Look the bibke is complete in all ramifications. It warns us not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers to save us stories that touch the heart and lead to divorce. So any brethren getting married in the wrong circle after being warned, will have to bear the brunt.
Rather than marry a non born again, I'll remain unmarried. Cos I can't deal.

A word is enough for the wise.

It's your choice. If u believe in divorce and remarry, I won't force u. I am a Christian n my compass is my bible n the holy spirit is my guide. I wouldn't live my life based on emotions, feelings or human idiosyncrasies. If the monks, Reverend father n mother who r not married and some of them r standing upright, prophets of old and apostles can stand without with getting married, God's grace is always available to keep us faithful even to the end. Shalom

paxonel:

If you are asked to explain why you don't support it you will find yourself not having anything to say.
All you will say is, i saw it that way in the bible.

These are one of the laws the church of this modern day should deal with.
I mean, the church can't afford to continue reading what is wrong in the bible and let it be part of them, it's so ridiculous, even God in heaven will never accept that.

Do you know that even Muslims also read somewhere in their Quran that they should kill infidels anywhere they find them?
They cannot help but find themselves killing and maiming people because that is what they saw in their Quran, and they are very holy or born again doing it, that is the origin of terrorism.
The same thing with Christians, Christians feels very holy or born again when they stay unmarried until their ex-spouse is dead, does that make sense?
Does it occur to you people that God created man with emotional and sexual needs ?
Why will anyone be subjected into an emotional torment all in the name of keeping religious laws who were created by fellow humans?

what is wrong is wrong, and what is right is right, they really do not depend on religion but rather, they depend on what is in the mind known as conscience.

That's why Christ categorically says, all power has been given to us, which includes the right to choose what is right against all odds and steak to it.

God wouldn't judge us based on feelings or emotions. He will judge based on his words. Top shots in the body of Christ can divorce n u psychology to support it but the word of God still stands. He wouldn't change because of u n I. If apostles, prophets,[,monks,reverend father n mother and even in our contemporary time can stand when they make mistakes or decided not to marry,I believe God's grace is there to carry the fallen man or woman through life. Thanks quote author=paxonel post=89559475]
If you are asked to explain why you don't support it you will find yourself not having anything to say.
All you will say is, i saw it that way in the bible.

These are one of the laws the church of this modern day should deal with.
I mean, the church can't afford to continue reading what is wrong in the bible and let it be part of them, it's so ridiculous, even God in heaven will never accept that.

Do you know that even Muslims also read somewhere in their Quran that they should kill infidels anywhere they find them?
They cannot help but find themselves killing and maiming people because that is what they saw in their Quran, and they are very holy or born again doing it, that is the origin of terrorism.
The same thing with Christians, Christians feels very holy or born again when they stay unmarried until their ex-spouse is dead, does that make sense?
Does it occur to you people that God created man with emotional and sexual needs ?
Why will anyone be subjected into an emotional torment all in the name of keeping religious laws who were created by fellow humans?

what is wrong is wrong, and what is right is right, they really do not depend on religion but rather, they depend on what is in the mind known as conscience.

That's why Christ categorically says, all power has been given to us, which includes the right to choose what is right against all odds and steak to it.

[/quote]

Eulalia:
Is it right for a bornagain sis to marry a divorced Christian bro that the ex wife is still alive?
As in, lets say the Bro is a real believer but just got out of a young marriage not up to a year due to infidelity issues.
If the brother has been refunded the dowry and other things. Is he free to remarry. And if he's a pastor.

Please urgent answers from mature ones.
Thank you.

No, whoever does commits adultery. (See Matthew 19:3-11)

May Jesus Bless You.

davidinchrist:


No, whoever does commits adultery. (See Matthew 19:3-11)

May Jesus Bless You.

Ok. Thank you.

Eulalia:
Is it right for a bornagain sis to marry a divorced Christian bro that the ex wife is still alive?
As in, lets say the Bro is a real believer but just got out of a young marriage not up to a year due to infidelity issues.
If the brother has been refunded the dowry and other things. Is he free to remarry. And if he's a pastor.

Please urgent answers from mature ones.
Thank you.

The man should have forgiven the lady if truly he is born again.
The true test of whether you are a born again is in your love, forgiveness, giving etc.
How are we sure he will not divorce again in this new marriage?

terrezo2002:

The man should have forgiven the lady if truly he is born again.
The true test of whether you are a born again is in your love, forgiveness, giving etc.
How are we sure he will not divorce again in this new marriage?

Exactly. A real born again should have a forgiving heart. True.

[quote author=HeavenlyHolines post=89571333]God wouldn't judge us based on feelings or emotions. He will judge based on his words. Top shots in the body of Christ can divorce n u psychology to support it but the word of God still stands. He wouldn't change because of u n I. If apostles, prophets,[,monks,reverend father n mother and even in our contemporary time can stand when they make mistakes or decided not to marry,I believe God's grace is there to carry the fallen man or woman through life. Thanks quote author=paxonel post=89559475]
If you are asked to explain why you don't support it you will find yourself not having anything to say.
All you will say is, i saw it that way in the bible.

These are one of the laws the church of this modern day should deal with.
I mean, the church can't afford to continue reading what is wrong in the bible and let it be part of them, it's so ridiculous, even God in heaven will never accept that.

Do you know that even Muslims also read somewhere in their Quran that they should kill infidels anywhere they find them?
They cannot help but find themselves killing and maiming people because that is what they saw in their Quran, and they are very holy or born again doing it, that is the origin of terrorism.
The same thing with Christians, Christians feels very holy or born again when they stay unmarried until their ex-spouse is dead, does that make sense?
Does it occur to you people that God created man with emotional and sexual needs ?
Why will anyone be subjected into an emotional torment all in the name of keeping religious laws who were created by fellow humans?

what is wrong is wrong, and what is right is right, they really do not depend on religion but rather, they depend on what is in the mind known as conscience.

That's why Christ categorically says, all power has been given to us, which includes the right to choose what is right against all odds and steak to it.

I can tell you the danger of divorce or remarriage when the former spouse is still alive and the aftermath action or reactions that's what God is looking at and what God sees and know his beyond us because the evil will start from the heart. Same reason while God also warn us from polygamy. The effect it will have on the ex, the children n the society. It breeds emotional trauma, hatred, animosity, evil thoughts, division even in the church etc.[quote author=paxonel post=89582722][/quote]

HeavenlyHolines:
I can tell you the danger of divorce or remarriage when the former spouse is still alive and the aftermath action or reactions that's what God is looking at and what God sees and know his beyond us because the evil will start from the heart. Same reason while God also warn us from polygamy. The effect it will have on the ex, the children n the society. It breeds emotional trauma, hatred, animosity, evil thoughts, division even in the church etc.

no!
You are terribly wrong.

Not all foster parents adopting children of the ex-wife or husband can be hostile to the children, there are very loving foster parents infact some of them can be more caring than the so called biological parents.

So, that your assumption is not of God.

Eulalia:


Exactly. A real born again should have a forgiving heart. True.

the day you will come across one terrible born again that day you will know.
You think it's by born again?

paxonel:
the day you will come across one terrible born again that day you will know.
You think it's by born again?

Such a day will never come.

Eulalia:



Such a day will never come.

dont worry, it's just a matter of time. Just grow up first

paxonel:
dont worry, it's just a matter of time. Just grow up first

And I repeat, such a day will never come to pass in my life rather it is YOU! Who will experience such in Jesus name.
Amen.

Well,I can't force u. What I told u is a fact not an assumption. I have taught in within n outside the country n I know the implications of such. If u believe in divorce and remarry when the spouse is still alive no problem. I will stick to the bible

paxonel:
no!
You are terribly wrong.

Not all foster parents adopting children of the ex-wife or husband can be hostile to the children, there are very loving foster parents infact some of them can be more caring than the so called biological parents.

So, that your assumption is not of God.

HeavenlyHolines:
Well,I can't force u. What I told u is a fact not an assumption. I have taught in within n outside the country n I know the implications of such. If u believe in divorce and remarry when the spouse is still alive no problem. I will stick to the bible

Bro please ignore this fellow. Don't let him drag you on unnecessarily. The Bible is there for everyone and you have made it clear enough. So stop stressing.
God bless.

HeavenlyHolines:
Well,I can't force u. What I told u is a fact not an assumption. I have taught in within n outside the country n I know the implications of such. If u believe in divorce and remarry when the spouse is still alive no problem. I will stick to the bible

a fact that all foster parents are hostile to children which are not their own?
ahh! that is a wrong excuse for not doing what is right Bro, you can't generalize and conclude that way.
OK, what about people who go to orphanage homes to adopt children which are not their own are all of them hostile to the children simply because they didn't give birth to them?

I assume you are a pastor, please tell your people the truth.