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Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(m): 8:48am On Jun 13, 2020 |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(m): 8:52am On Jun 13, 2020 |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(m): 8:55am On Jun 13, 2020 |
sesan85: Ok agreed they were Yoruba who got influenced by binis, they werr never included as binis in time past |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(m): 8:57am On Jun 13, 2020 |
TAO12: See mumu, if i come into the argument now your brothers will cry heaven and earth for yoursake |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by Etinosa1234: 9:57am On Jun 13, 2020 |
AreaFada2: Bro I don tire for them... So tey one don say na political alliance we take control Lagos... The one wey I dey follow argue nor get facts Again...she come dey change the words of my source...I Jus know say she don go out of steam...common yes or no..she dey write essay for persom Abeg... arguing with Awori be like arguing with a mad man...people wey our father brainwash... according to Tao sha Abeg I nor dey do again boss 3 Likes
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Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by babtoundey(m): 10:02am On Jun 13, 2020 |
Edeyoung: Baba you're simply dumP. Who are you trying to deceive. Abeg, give the other phone back to your dad. |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by Edeyoung: 10:06am On Jun 13, 2020 |
babtoundey: Dumb boy |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(m): 10:30am On Jun 13, 2020 |
TAO12: Edeyoung 1 Like
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Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(m): 10:32am On Jun 13, 2020 |
TAO12: 1 Like
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Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO12: 12:49pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
gregyboy: You're going in circles now perhaps because the issue I've been putting forward is way bigger than you. The account about a certain Aina is even spurious. In order words, it doesn't belong to the official traditional account of either Benin or Lagos. Moreover, even if we pretend it does, the problem still remains that its theme does not gel with the earliest eyewitness report -- Ulsheimer (1603). This report indicates that the Binis have settled in Lagos pre-1603, and as such the conflict it talks about can not possibly be an imperial attempt to settle in Lagos and take it. Moreover, the historical fact of the early begginings of European trade on the coast of Lagos (pre-1600) is an obvious corroboration to the beginnings of Benin's presence (an active participant in the coastal trade) in the region pre-1600. This is true for many other immigrant groups too apart from Benin. The foregoing consideration of these two facts (i.e. the report of Ulsheimer(1603) and the early beginnings of European trade in Lagos) supports the aspect of the Lagos traditional account (and not the Benin traditional account) which holds that the settling in of the Binis et al. in Lagos [pre-1600s] was via a peaceful infiltration -- trade. This same consideration also supports another aspect of the Lagos traditional account which holds that the [post-1600 ] conflicts in Lagos [one of which Ulsheimer(1603) talks about] relates simply to trade-induced violence. Furthermore, while there is nothing in Ulsheimer's(1603) report about the first king of Lagos being a Bini; linguistic clues ("Ashipa" ) indicate that the first king of Lagos is of Yoruba descent. Moreover, an independent 1920s non-Yoruba and non-Bini account also confirms this about Ashipa being a Yoruba royalty from Isheri. In addition to these, the custom of burying the kings' heads in Lagos and their remaining body in Benin although suggests connection with Benin (i.e. a maternal and a political connection as I have once shown), it does indeed confirm Lagos to be the paternal homeland of Lagos kings. And the Benin traditional account finally finds its way to the dustbin. 1 Like |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO12: 12:52pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
babtoundey: Dont mind that boy. He is just "dump". 1 Like
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Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO12: 1:28pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
gregyboy: If you push me to the edge, I will present even more damaging evidence to expose you as one and the same person. 1 Like |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(m): 1:30pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
TAO12: Mumu |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO12: 1:32pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
gregyboy: Now, you've just pushed me. >: Lol. (1) The following link relates to a thread you [as "gregyboy"] created on May 18 at 6:38 PM https://www.nairaland.com/5866543/identify-benin-greetings-here#89693577 [See also 1st attached screenshots for evidence that you created this thread]. (2) As expected, your second moniker ["Edeyoung"] was not cc:ied because at that time you were still acting naturally, as there was no need to copy yourself. [See 1st attached screenshot for evidence for this]. (3) (i) The thread was meant to be an invitation [from "gregyboy"] to all Edos/Binis to identify their native dialectal Edo forms of greeting. (ii) You [as "gregyboy"] identified your native dialectal form of greeting. [See 1st attached screenshot for evidence of this]. (iii) In fact, other Edos/Binis who commented on the thread all follwed suit and identified thier own native dialectal forms too -- except for one Edo/Bini monker who commented but didn't identify[/b]. Lol. (v) This Edo/Bini account (who failed to identify) goes by the moniker "Edeyoung". [See 2nd attached screenshot for this]. Could it be that Edeyoung didn't really pay attention to see the topic of the thread?? Lol. Well, the context of his comment doesn't seem to support this suggestion. [See 2nd attached screenshot for this]. (vi) Oh wait a minute! Could it be that the person behind "Edeyoung" has already identified his native greeting under a different moniker ["gregyboy"], and was simply unintentionally submitting to natural psychological inclinations?? (vii) As at now, Edeyoung's comment is the only comment on that thread from that moniker. It is also the last comment on that thread. [See 2nd attached screenshot for this]. (viii) Let's hope that after reading this, you will go back to that thread and make up some random native dialectal Edo greeting for Edeyoung. Cheers! 1 Like
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Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(m): 2:28pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
TAO12: Take this article make you read https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://ihuanedo.ning.com/m/blogpost%3Fid%3D2971192%253ABlogPost%253A64583&ved=2ahUKEwiQ4Kqx5v7pAhUh2uAKHY84C6QQFjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw36LFVBWxhvJo4nv2TaMyCM&cshid=1592054596678 I dont know were you got your account of no military conquest by binis in lagos and we left our territory to be king in your fathers land and your people watched it happen Mumu talk, be busy tracing edeyoung to me That link will take you to the edo site that gives total credibility of benin influence influenced on lagos from 15000 till date...... And yes benin armies invaded lagos on war conquest 1 Like |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(m): 2:34pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
TAO12: Lol funnny am rolling on the floor laughing hard Dumb boy/girl https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://ihuanedo.ning.com/m/blogpost%3Fid%3D2971192%253ABlogPost%253A64583&ved=2ahUKEwiQ4Kqx5v7pAhUh2uAKHY84C6QQFjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw36LFVBWxhvJo4nv2TaMyCM&cshid=1592054596678 1 Like |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by valirex: 2:48pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
BabaRamota1980: You can thank us again 1 Like |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(m): 2:50pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
TAO12: Simply say you guys have gregy phobia ......... Lol BabaRamota1980, macof, lawani,Olu317 1 Like
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Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(m): 2:51pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
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Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by valirex: 2:54pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
gregyboy: Bro she no fit miss me we don break up 1 Like |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(m): 3:02pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
Etinosa1234: Nor mind her, she sabi type and lie..... Just common yes or no, she go write full epistle Just leave her for me bro make i still use her shine........ Another people come from no were with diff language, diff custom come rule una like that with no fight..... Does it make sense..... She say na peaceful infiltration....... TAO11 i know you are bored, bring another topic we already defeated you in this one...... Lets argue on olokun origin.......... Smile mumu girl i know say you dey happy now 2 Likes |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(m): 3:03pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
valirex: Lol, she still dey reason your matter guy, those moments you hanged her.... |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by gregyboy(m): 3:08pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
TAO12: This is the type of prayers my psstor will recommend for my enemies..... God give my enemies meaningless duty and curse my enemies into deep and meaningless confusion ... Ijn amen |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO12: 3:12pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
gregyboy: Edo blogs? 1 Like |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO12: 3:14pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
gregyboy: I already told that if I got your time, then your own don kpuf be dat 1 Like
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Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO12: 3:16pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
gregyboy: Your hero ran away after being crushed and trashed. Who will now save Benin Kingdom? I heard you all are still in the search for another Edo hero to face TAO. 1 Like
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Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO12: 3:18pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
gregyboy: This Benin account is contradicted by both the Lagos account, and the earliest European eyewitness report. |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO12: 3:19pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
gregyboy: Nobody takes Edo blogs seriously anyways. 1 Like |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO12: 3:25pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
gregyboy: If you push me to the edge, I will present even more damaging evidence to expose you as one and the same person. gregyboy: Now, you've just pushed me. >: Lol. (1) The following link relates to a thread you [as "gregyboy"] created on May 18 at 6:38 PM https://www.nairaland.com/5866543/identify-benin-greetings-here#89693577 [See 1st attached screenshot also for evidence that you created this thread]. (2) As expected, your second moniker ["Edeyoung"] was not cc:ied because at that time you were still acting naturally, as there was no need to copy yourself. [See 1st attached screenshot for evidence for this]. (3) (i) The thread was meant to be an invitation [from "gregyboy"] to all Edos/Binis to identify their native dialectal Edo forms of greeting. (ii) You [as "gregyboy"] identified your native dialectal form of greeting. [See 1st attached screenshot for evidence of this]. (iii) In fact, other Edos/Binis who commented on the thread all follwed suit and identified thier own native dialectal forms too -- except for one Edo/Bini monker who commented but didn't identify. Lol. (v) This Edo/Bini account (who failed to identify) goes by the moniker "Edeyoung". [See 2nd attached screenshot for this]. Could it be that Edeyoung didn't really pay attention to see the topic of the thread?? Lol. Well, the context of his comment doesn't seem to support this suggestion. [See 2nd attached screenshot for this]. (vi) Oh wait a minute! Could it be that the person behind "Edeyoung" has already identified his native greeting under a different moniker ["gregyboy"], and was simply unintentionally submitting to natural psychological inclinations?? (vii) As at now, Edeyoung's comment is the only comment on that thread from that moniker. It is also the last comment on that thread. [See 2nd attached screenshot for this]. (viii) Let's hope that after reading this, you will go back to that thread and make up some random native dialectal Edo greeting for Edeyoung. Cheers! cc: babtoundey, MetaPhysical 1 Like
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Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO12: 3:34pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
gregyboy: Your hero (whom you admitted as such) ran away. Are you claiming to be greater than your professed hero?? |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by MetaPhysical: 3:39pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
TAO12: TAO12, CIA dey recruit. You are a natural gifted analyst. I bow! Gregyboy come and prostrate and salute this wonderful maverick. |
Re: Benins Are The Owners Of Ogboni Confraternity and olokun worship by TAO12: 3:40pm On Jun 13, 2020 |
MetaPhysical: Hahaha! 1 Like |
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