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Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by dulux07(m): 9:54pm On May 12, 2020 |
Some of you are just ignorant. Are u in the medical field? Why should they allow an healthy person into a clinic that contains people with infectious disease. Even in developed countries, family members are not allowed to see each other, husband is not allowed to see wife , mother not allowed to see child, people even died without getting any visit from family members. That is how bad it is. If you want to pray for them, pray for them outside, or home, pray on the materials you bought as a point of contact. This is where intercessory prayer is key And for those saying it is all fake.You think the govt would just shut down its activities based on false information without thorough investigation. How much are the donations or funds compared to the amount the govt is loosing per day because of inactivity. "Think". 3 Likes |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by sophiap: 9:54pm On May 12, 2020 |
Kenny4lyfe: The truth is simple, Nigeria don't have any real COVID-19 patient, so if they allow you in to pray for them,you will see their secret that's why they won't let you in. Other countries that have real cases, if they won't let the minister enter the ward they will at least let the minister pray for the medical personal at the corridors of the ward inside the hospital and stretch their hands towards the ward were the patients are. |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by Kenny4lyfe(m): 10:03pm On May 12, 2020 |
sophiap: In as much as it is true that our government are dishing out reports of "audio covid-19 cases". let's not rule out the prevalent deaths amidst the political elites lately as well as the "mysterious death" that's ravaging some part of northern Nigeria. Covid-19 is out there. Figures might be over exaggerated though. |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by petra1(m): 10:04pm On May 12, 2020 |
HedwigesMaduro: You're right there are different principles for different cases. In such a case as the centurion servant someone has to be in the gap.. The centurion faith stood in the gap . It's like the case of a woman with a baby . The baby may not have faith. But the faith of the mother can suffice. But the case of covid here . There has to be a connection with the people. 1 Like |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by xyzindustreet: 10:20pm On May 12, 2020 |
HedwigesMaduro:He knew who Jesus was and he had faith for his servant..... Remember Petra1 wrote he wasn’t given access to the facility so how do u expect them to know and have faith if they couldn’t come in contact with him or do u think the walls of the facility is made of glass? |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by xyzindustreet: 10:25pm On May 12, 2020 |
dulux07:Yes he prayed on the water before presentation. But we know that its the officials and staffs belle the water may end up in. His aim might have not been accomplished. At least Petra1 made an effort to go there and not just “THINK” like you. #Stop the criticism and learn to start appreciating efforts# |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by Kobojunkie: 11:30pm On May 12, 2020 |
petra1:BullPiss! Babies have their own faith. Can be used to explain why it is near impossible to keep the baby in when it is ready to come out? And in the case the mother dies, there is still a window within which the baby can still be rescued from the womb, alive. No need to invent different principles where there are none. |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by dulux07(m): 11:34pm On May 12, 2020 |
xyzindustreet:I didn't criticize his efforts, infact i commend him, because how many xtians have the courage to go to such places to pray.He played his part well. The problem i had with his writings, as well as others, was the fact that he made it look as if the clinic did something wrong, and those saying the covid center was fake 3 Likes |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by kingxsamz(m): 12:13am On May 13, 2020 |
Kenny4lyfe: Nothing is being exaggerated... Number of people who are infected are definitely a lot higher than the number of confirmed cases. 1 Like |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by Kenny4lyfe(m): 1:46am On May 13, 2020 |
kingxsamz: There are instances where people with other ailments are diagnosed to be Covid-19 also. That's the point I'm trying to make. |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by Kenny4lyfe(m): 1:52am On May 13, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: That's no faith, babies clearly act on instincts (not the spiritual senses). The infant's will alone does not make delivery successful, there are other factors involved that the baby cannot control. Infants are helpless. |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by Kobojunkie: 2:29am On May 13, 2020 |
Kenny4lyfe:What do you think faith is? Kenny4lyfe:That instinct to exit through the birth canal is what has driven many a successful births in both humans and animals for thousands of years. |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by xyzindustreet: 6:44am On May 13, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:Babies have faith indeed#yinmu# Pls let me hear better thing biko |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by xyzindustreet: 6:46am On May 13, 2020 |
kingxsamz:Not being exaggerated?......lie Even if u have headache now the Government hospital would say it’s a Covid19 case 1 Like |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by petra1(m): 6:54am On May 13, 2020 |
dulux07: I wore the mask . All I would expect is that they recommend I wear the hazmat suit . Patapata I pay for it. Or wear gloves . After all. someone is giving the patients there food and and water |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by petra1(m): 7:01am On May 13, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: The scripture doesn't support that ideology. If it's so there's no need to preach to anyone . Since all would have faith in God by birth. Faith comes by hearing Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God Romans 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? 1 Like |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by Jekinflow(m): 7:32am On May 13, 2020 |
The Patients are not being allowed to be prayed for because, the government, or rather, certain individuals in the government are BENEFITING from the whole crisis... and besides we have far more "COVID 19 figures" than actual "COVID 19 Cases"... 1 Like |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by Nobody: 9:22am On May 13, 2020 |
xyzindustreet: It wasn't the sick person that had faith. It was the centurion. |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by Commonsense99: 10:07am On May 13, 2020 |
petra1: What kind of prayers were you trying to offer that you coudnt offer from the gate or your apartment? Didn't the bible tell us that God is a spirit? Or are you a god that wants to touch COVID-19 patient? What exactly is wrong with Africans.. I mean this is 2020! I lose hope in this entity called Nigeria whenever I read some people's opinions in cases like this. Are you saying that you haven't heard of what happened in other countries where pastors and imams had insisted on praying for covid patients and ended up as career's, spread the diseases, or even died of covid19 after contacting the virus while praying for the patients? From South Korea to United States to Iran even over there at port Harcourt, Rivers state.?(please do well to Google it) Are you pretending to be daft or naturally daft? Do you know the kind of problem you are trying to put the whole city into by trying to go into the isolation rooms? Trained health workers go in with full PPE and some still end up beign infected, this is a disease where dying patients get to talk to their loved ones from video calls, and here you are trying to commit intentional suicide by going into an isolation room. For those who are claiming its an audio virus, keep it up, until God forbid, someone you know gets infected. |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by petra1(m): 10:19am On May 13, 2020 |
Commonsense99: the thread is for christians. its a chrisian thing to pray for the sick. some of us have been going for hospital ministrations right from teenage years and we have seen God healing the sick Mark 16:18 18. . . . they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. 1 Like |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by Commonsense99: 10:29am On May 13, 2020 |
petra1: Bishop Gerald O. Glenn, of New deliverance evangelistic Church in United States had defied instructions to go in and pray for COVID-19 patient's, today he is of blessed memory...yes, he died of same covid19 and is buried(Google it) . Pastor of shincheonji Church in Korea had defied social distancing to hold prayers for covid19 patient. #31, eventually Korea cases exploded from his church, such that they accused him of mass murder, he was sued, and excaped death by hanging by whiskers.. Korea is still suffering from his misbehavior at the moment(Google it) . So you think what makes me an unbeliever is because I try to reason common sense Into your religious blinded mind huh? By the way am replying you because am a frontliner, who owes the society the obligation to enlighten them on the dangers of this disease. Stay blessed. 1 Like |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by xyzindustreet: 10:35am On May 13, 2020 |
Commonsense99:So for you to buttress your point you must insult to show the level of your *****....anyway you are not the prayee nor the recipient of the prayer neither are you yet in an hopeless situation then you would know the importance of physical contact #justpassingby#** uncle daft** |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by kingxsamz(m): 10:38am On May 13, 2020 |
xyzindustreet:Have you gone for test and it came out positive? Did any of your friends and Family go for test and they came out positive? Have you been there with them to conduct any test? They've done 23 thousand tests, and only over 4,000 were positive, so what are you saying? You should know by now that if there's covid-19 in Nigeria, it's likely to spread faster than anything, given the fact that so mnay people are flouting the social distancing order. Can you boldly tell yourself that this virus hasn't spread in many places, even though many folks don't believe the virus exists in Nigeria, and keep doing anyhow they like? |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by petra1(m): 10:39am On May 13, 2020 |
[quote author=Commonsense99 post=89496387] Bishop Gerald O. Glenn, of New deliverance evangelistic Church in United States had defied instructions to go in and pray for COVID-19 patient's, today he is of blessed memory...yes, he died of same covid19 and is buried(Google it) . Pastor of shincheonji Church in Korea had defied social distancing to hold prayers for covid19 patients #31, eventually Korea cases exploded from his church, such that they accused him of mass murder, he was sued, and excaped death by hanging by whiskers.. Korea is still suffering from his misbehavior at the moment(Google it) .[\quote] There are zeals without knowledge . There are individuals with gift of healing . No man take the honor upon himself . Whatever God calls you to do ,the anointing of that call protects you . Luke 10:19 19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. I've had. Had case of Ebola healed and other ailments . And if I'm allowed to minister to the sick there . I will follow medical procedure by using protection. The Ebola case I didn't touch him . I only stretch my hand and rebuke the spirit of death and he fell down and was healed . . So you think what makes me an umbeliever is because I try to reason common sense into your religious mind Maybe I just assumed by your post 1 Like |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by xyzindustreet: 10:48am On May 13, 2020 |
Commonsense99: Welldone!! So you think you ve made sense now? Pastors have grades based on their Anointing, faith etc....Same way in the school of life not everyone is on same level. If he wants to be a frontliner and a sacrificial lamb for the gospel pls let him be at least he made an effort.....see people would have gotten healed if he has gotten access cause some of the patients would be on their highest level of faith to receive their healing Why don’t you publish a journal on Covid19 or write a textbook on the topic uncle frontliner!!!! #yinmu# |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by xyzindustreet: 10:50am On May 13, 2020 |
HedwigesMaduro:we are not told Petra1 met any of the family members to have faith for those in the facility. |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by Kenny4lyfe(m): 8:58am On May 14, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:13 That instinct to exit through the birth canal is what has driven many a successful births in both humans and animals for thousands of years. What is successful child birth? What about the health status (physical, emotional and psychological) of the mother? The environment in which the delivery is to take place? Ask mothers around you. A successfull Child birth is not determined by the infant's instinct to exit the birth canal. |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by Sammcheck: 9:40am On May 14, 2020 |
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Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by petra1(m): 11:23am On May 14, 2020 |
kingxsamz: There are numerous cases of this . I have people detained illegal for covid with false diagnosis , they have to make one pay heavy bribe to be released with his family https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqYpCDo9HK0 |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by Kobojunkie: 5:40pm On May 14, 2020 |
petra1:
Even animals express faith to a significant extent than men do. |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by Kobojunkie: 5:42pm On May 14, 2020 |
Kenny4lyfe:Environment? you make me laugh!! You speak today of environment or health of the mother(physical, emotional and psychological), but do you know before all these cares of today, man has been birthing babies without much care given to those? In history, babys have been birthed in even in shit-pits. |
Re: COVID-19: Why Are Patients Not Allowed To Be Prayed For? by xyzindustreet: 6:35pm On May 14, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:Can u hear yourself? Read that again. |
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