omonnakoda:
Ezearo was an external Akamkpa king that came from Akwa Ibom area and installed his generations as dynasty in Arochukwu. Normally Igbo do not have kings except in places where they were conquered by outsiders e,g Nri,Onitsha Oguta and Arochukwu

Lol.....this guy is high..... Akamkpa is in cross River oooo my man.... So Nri was. Conquered by outsiders from where?

franozx:


That's is it. Yes there were once conquered but today's arochukwu, oguta, Onitsha are in SE unlike Kwara that is now in the north

They are in the same place they were 200 years ago unless the land has been moved by an earthquake or extraordinary phenomenon
What exactly is SE where is that gazetted or documented.

SE is a PDP concept for their zoning

Point me In the direction of any Nigerian government official document that describes SE

Akamkpa continue to reign as Ezearos

Balogunodua:

Attah of Igala is the chairman of Kogi traditional rulers, but that does not mean he is superior to others.

who is superior to him in kogi state?

omonnakoda:

That is what I said

The Aros are a hybrid just like Hausa/Fulani with the Akamkpa in charge as rulers and Ibos as ruled underclass.They sold the less civilised Pure Ibos for centuries

Aro is a direct son of Eri, same as Agulu, Nri and others........ Ask any igbo elder.

omonnakoda:

They are in the sam place they were 200 years ago unless the land has been moved by an earthquake or extraordinary phenomenon

See eh. I have friends in those areas and pls don't because of 0.01% conquered a place, then u now neglect the aborigines. They 0.01% has been fully absorbed bro.... They only thing I know for sure now is that boundary communities in arochukwu speak Ibibio maybe because of long interaction also boundary community in akwaibom/cross river speak Igbo and also answer igbo_like names maybe because of long interactions too

Sammy07:


Yeah, A struggle and a long journey.

Many towns in kwara state don't flow with ilorin (state capital) just because of that emir title.

Expecially Offa those people no like that emir title at all.

rummmy:
who is superior to him in kogi state?

And who his he superior to?

Last time i checked his superiorty ends in Igalaland.

rummmy:
Aro is a direct son of Eri, same as Agulu, Nri and others........ Ask any igbo elder.

Lwkmd
Go to this thread and educate yourself
https://www.nairaland.com/5814126/ise-does-every-group-igboid/5

The Aros are ruled by an Akamkpa/Ibibio dynasty in the same way as Fulani rule Kano till tomorrow

softplace:


Actually ilorin is the place he emphasized on, am from offa and our king is olofa of offa.. Ilorin can be anything they want to be , but offa,omu aran,erin ile,ifeoldun etc are all Yoruba communities

People need to understand ilorin is just a place in kwara just like ikeja is not the whole of lagos or ibadan the whole of oyo or onitsha the whole of anambra etc

There are places in kwara that dont have anything in common with ilorin

Sometimes i wonder how those places where added to north central

Why do you keep wasting time trying to explain the obvious? It's not worth it trying to teach the brainless.

rummmy:
still does not change the fact that a Fulani Emir is the Emir of ILORIN and the chairman of kwara state traditional rulers and he is under the sokoto caliphate...... and not the Alafin.

Still doesn’t change the fact that the Yoruba governor of Kwara State is the number one citizen of the state and the so called emir is under his authority. The Yoruba governor can wake up tomorrow and sack the emir and then banish him to Enugu for the rest of his life.

Balogunodua:

Expecially Offa those people no like that emir title at all.

Yes, you're right

Balogunodua:

Expecially Offa those people no like that emir title at all.

Ilorin essentially was an Oyo slave and military settlement. It was not a settled town
The slaves revolted and took over and legitimised themselves by claiming to be Fulani. Some were Fulani but most were slaves and mercenaries with Oyo dialect as lingua franca and Islam as common religion
Remember that the Oyo Empire did not allow the army within the town.

For these reasons Yoruba cannot be in a hurry to claim Ilorin. They should remain in the North

omonnakoda:

Ilorin essentially was an Oyo slave and military settlement. It was not a settled town
The slaves revolted and took over and legitimised themselves by claiming to be Fulani. Some were Fulani but most were slaves and mercenaries with Oyo dialect as lingua franca and Islam as common religion
Remember that the Oyo Empire did not allow the army within the town.

For these reasons Yoruba cannot be in a hurry to claim Ilorin. They should remain in the North

Time will tell...

seunmsg:


Still doesn’t change the fact that the Yoruba governor of Kwara State is the number one citizen of the state and the so called emir is under his authority. The Yoruba governor can wake up tomorrow and sack the emir and then banish him to Enugu for the rest of his life.

Emir last for years while a governor stays for a max of 8 years..... and can not banish an emir to Enugu because Enugu have not and will never be a Yoruba land... Even if he detrone and Emir, another Fulani emir will still take over and must pledge allegiance to the caliphate........ In conclusion, a fulani can be ( have been) a governor of kwara state but a Yoruba will never be an emir of ilorin..

Balogunodua:

Time will tell...

For me they may speak the best Yourba which is strange but true but they are largely descendants of Hausa slaves.
Even those claiming to be Fulani did so for benefits . Just like Boko Haram swearing loyalty to ISIS

Iran eru ni won
Iwa eru si kun owo won pelu

Balogunodua:

And who his he superior to?

Last time i checked his superiorty ends in Igalaland.

and igalas are the majority.

Sammy07:


I'm currently in kwara state.
You guys should leave your cage and come to Offa to say this, if you will go back alive

I smell barbecue already

rummmy:
and igalas are the majority.

So majority now defines superiorty

rummmy:
Emir last for years while a governor stays for a max of 8 years..... and can not banish an emir to Enugu because Enugu have not and will never be a Yoruba land... Even if he detrone and Emir, another Fulani emir will still take over and must pledge allegiance to the caliphate........ In conclusion, a fulani can be ( have been) a governor of kwara state but a Yoruba will never be an emir of ilorin..

Pledge allegiance to caliphate

?

There us a caliphate in Nigeria?

Sunshineg5:
Some are in Nasarawa, Niger state while some claim they are in Ilorin

Although they have mostly being diluted by local tribes

Which LG simple

rummmy:
Emir last for years while a governor stays for a max of 8 years..... and can not banish an emir to Enugu because Enugu have not and will never be a Yoruba land... Even if he detrone and Emir, another Fulani emir will still take over and must pledge allegiance to the caliphate........ In conclusion, a fulani can be ( have been) a governor of kwara state but a Yoruba will never be an emir of ilorin..

How many kingmakers come from Sokoto to enthrone an emir in ilorin Because last time i checked no emir can to install with the Mogaji Aare and Baba Isale Ilorin.

Just like Ooni gives crown to Oba in Kogi state

Ayekotoo:


You should know that these elites (sarakis, belgores, Gambaris, etc are descendants of fulani but used the yoruba names to lay claim to the conquered lands. Check history of the Fulani people.

true. They should have been booted out if not for the British.

helinues:


Kwara was lost long time ago to Fulani.. That's not what anyone can dispute..

Yes, we moved on and face the remaining SW states.

There are Igbo minorities in SS no dispute about that , but the lands have been lost long time.. It is now called SS..

So which one are you Easterners claiming, the people , the land or both?

There are no disputes about igbo minorities in SS??
Well then, there must be two Nairaland sites

rummmy:
Emir last for years while a governor stays for a max of 8 years..... and can not banish an emir to Enugu because Enugu have not and will never be a Yoruba land... Even if he detrone and Emir, another Fulani emir will still take over and must pledge allegiance to the caliphate........ In conclusion, a fulani can be ( have been) a governor of kwara state but a Yoruba will never be an emir of ilorin..

Go and tell Sanusi the part in bold.

Even if the governor stays for a week, he’s still above the emir for that week and can sack him if he so wishes.

Whoever is emir of Ilorin is none of my business in as much as they go by names such as “Kolapo” “Agboola “ etc and Yoruba people in the city are doing well in all areas of human endeavor.

seunmsg:


Go and tell Sanusi the part in bold.

Even if the governor stays for a week, he’s still above the emir for that week and can sack him if he so wishes.

Whoever is emir of Ilorin is none of my business in as much as they go by names such as “Kolapo” “Agboola “ etc and Yoruba people in the city are doing well in all areas of human endeavor.

They bear our names doesn't mean they are the same as us. Don't be taqiyyarised.

Threads like these are truly hilarious. Any disagreement you're automatically tagged igbo. lol

As if the keyboard stroke gives away clues..lol

Nigeria has 250 tribes they say. Apparently not on nairaland

franozx:



See eh. I have friends in those areas and pls don't because of 0.01% conquered a place, then u now neglect the aborigines. They 0.01% has been fully absorbed bro.... They only thing I know for sure now is that boundary communities in arochukwu speak Ibibio maybe because of long interaction also boundary community in akwaibom/cross river speak Igbo and also answer igbo_like names maybe because of long interactions too

same thing applies here too. No?
When British colonized Nigeria how many of them came here to get the job done?

kehinde1588:

We kwarans here are just laughing at your stupidity and ignorance. Igbos act like they know kwara more than we kwarans.

There is nothing like Share LGA. It's Ifelodun LGA and Share is a town under Ifelodun LGA where Abdulfathia Ahmad came from.

GTFO! Go and reclaim ilorin

Ojiofor:


Dr. Olusola Saraki is the father of the current Senate President Bukola Saraki who is seeking to become the country’s president in 2019.

The older Saraki’s claims to Fulani ancestry and Ilorin indigeneship are challenged by disclosures that he is an Egba man from Abeokuta in Ogun State.

In this season of public scrutiny of those seeking to govern the country, our sister publication, TheNEWS magazine dug up from the archive a story written in 2010 over the controversy surrounding Bukola Saraki’s ancestry. The story was written by BAMIDELE JOHNSON.

At a press conference in Abuja in August 2009, Dr. Olusola Saraki told his audience that he is essentially of Malian origin. His great-grandfather, allegedly a Fulani, he said, migrated from the West African nation to settle in Ilorin about 200 years ago.

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2018/09/20/from-the-archive-controversy-over-bukola-sarakis-ancestry/

Sammy07.

even looking at Saraki he doesn’t look Yoruba facially

Same thing in Kwara. Who is superior to the Emir?

rummmy:
who is superior to him in kogi state?

nairavsdollars:
Same thing in Kwara. Who is superior to the Emir?

The governor.

csamii:


GTFO! Go and reclaim ilorin

Reclaim it from who?