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Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by asha80(m): 4:31am On Jan 21, 2011
PhysicsMHD:

Ok, perhaps I misread him.


I don't deny that the federal government has recorded abysmal failure in many areas, under both civilian and military rule, that would be crucial to aiding the growth and development

A good example is the massive amounts of natural gas in the southwest and the coal in the southeast not being used for energy/electricity despite being right in front of us. It makes no sense to me. Perhaps specialists know something that I don't about this, but I've thought about it for a while and haven't been able to figure out why nobody is doing anything with all those resources in front of them.

As per the roads and buildings, I still maintain that outside funding is needed to build and maintain all of that until such a time where taxes are enough to maintain them + build new ones, there's no way a (non-Abacha) federal government will just decide to focus on any one large city over hundreds of others if it can't also pay for improvements in the hundreds of others at the same time.

It's great that they even have a city/state/or regional master plan. That shows the kind of seriousness which is bound to produce results regardless of outside help. I doubt I could say the same for my own home city or state with regard to having a coherent, systematic plan.


Benin no get masterplan?

off topic. physics can explain to me how auchi came to be a moslem town?was their an islamic invasion there?
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by PhysicsMHD(m): 4:38am On Jan 21, 2011
asha 80:


Benin no get masterplan?

As far as I can tell no. I mean Oshiomole is definitely putting in some effort though. When last I visited, they were demolishing/removing and marking for removal homes and businesses that were blocking the expansion of new roads.




off topic. physics can explain to me how auchi came to be a moslem town?was their an islamic invasion there?


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Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by asha80(m): 5:10am On Jan 21, 2011
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by EkoIle1: 6:10am On Jan 21, 2011
cheikh:

@Kalu Akanu


@Kalu Akanu

Are you not embarrassed or ashamed of the bolded?- that the clever, self determined, republican/democratic Igbo, are victims in their own 'home', >, WHY? What happened to the power of the people? or so called community spirit? Is it dead?


How do you reconcile having leaders imposed on you and being clever, self determined, republican/democratic?


It means there's nothing clever, self determined, republican/democratic about ibo people politically, it's the same ol' make yourself feel good lies you ibo people keep peddling all over the place.


You are "AWOL" politically and your leaders are all infective, marginal and dispensable political players in the halls of power and your political history way back from ZIK till this very second says nothing about democracy and all the rubbish you people like to throw around.

Zik was an ineffective figure head just like the ones you have in and out of office right now,


Y'all can carry on with your pity party now,
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by Mobinga: 6:17am On Jan 21, 2011
Yoruba tribalists are foolish. grin
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by EkoIle1: 6:22am On Jan 21, 2011
Nothing tribal about facts and reality on the ground my friend.
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by ekubear1: 6:46am On Jan 21, 2011
Anyone have a reference handy (maps, papers, etc) describing this NG in the SW? How much is it? Where (offshore, I am guessing. . . )?
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by Justcash(m): 6:55am On Jan 21, 2011
[b]Nnewi is a potential Japan of Nigeria and Africa.  That place should be the technological heartbeat of Nigeria. If Nigeria was not as frustrating as it is, I would have been doing my business in Nnewi. It is an amazing place, but sadly neglected in the farce called Nigeria.
The dum'b-as's "Victors" after the war should have leveraged on the technological might of Biafran engineers to steer up development. Unfortunately, their Nigerian brains told them that the best way to deal with the engineers is to make them hopeless and frustrated. Many fled to other countries, and are making waves there. Others that couldn't flee were left to regret, in places like Nnewi and Awka, for ever showing off their talents to the Ewus, Nkpis and Namas that were posing as victors. Even Americans, Russians, Suicidal Japanese and Brutal Russians were intelligent enough to know of the act of leveraging from the talents gotten from defeated enemies of war. Little wonder why those countries are way ahead of Nigeria long dominated by the dum'b Civil war Victors.
Very disappointing. Makes me wish Biafra had succeeded. I am very convinced that Nigeria would have been buying Cars, Military wares, Aeroplanes etc from Biafra by now. I am so sure because Places like Nnewi and Awka would have been well utilized.[/b]
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by Diligence: 8:26am On Jan 21, 2011
Everytime we take a critical look at the neglect in so-called federal roads, etc in South East, it reminds us of the need to pursue vigorously the realisation of the Sovereign State of Biafra!

Revolution is creeping in and sweeping across Africa; Nigeria won't escape sooner or later!
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by kildran: 8:59am On Jan 21, 2011
Mobinga:

Yoruba tribalists are foolish. grin

What abt Ibo tribalists Are u makin any sense at all. A piece of logic, yr post is tribal, tribalist are stupid, So automatically u are stupid.
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by raycomray: 10:58am On Jan 21, 2011
AS AN IBO MAN, I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DISAPPOINTED BY THE WAY IBOS HANDLE LEADERSHIP. THAT "JUNGLE LIKE-SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST ATTITUDE" IS A PROBLEM WHICH WILL CONTINUE TO HUNT OUR CORPORATE EXISTENCE AND POLITICAL RELEVANCE IN NIGERIA AND BEYOND.

THE PROBLEM OF THE IBOS IS NOT WITH THE CIVIL WAR, HAUSA'S, YORUBA'S, ETC. LET US FOR ONCE DISCUSS ISSUES AND DISALLOW ETHNO-RELIGIOUS SENTIMENTS FROM BECLOUDING OUR SENSE OF REASONING AND OBJECTIVITY. THE IBO NATION COULD ACHIEVE MORE EVEN WITHOUT OIL REVENUE IF WE ARE A BIT MORE ORGANIZED WITH A PURPOSEFUL SENSE OF LEADERSHIP.

THE GOVT OF ANAMBRA STATE SHOULD LOOK INWARDS VIA IGR( INTERNALLY GENERATED REVENUES) AND LIFT NNEWI OUT OF THE DUNGEONS OF UNDERDEVELOPMENT. FURTHERMORE, THE SOUTHEAST "LEADERS OF THOUGHT" SHOULD COME TOGETHER TO DRAFT A 20-YEAR DEVELOPMENTAL PLAN FOR THE IBO NATION. MAYBE, OUR FUTURE LIES IN OUR HANDS AND NOT IN OIL REVENUE, HAUSA'S, YORUBA'S ETC
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by Abagworo(m): 11:23am On Jan 21, 2011
IMAO I think the best solution to all the problems in Nigeria is true federalism and absolute resource control at least on state level.
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by KaluAkanu: 11:28am On Jan 21, 2011
Abagworo:

IMAO I think the best solution to all the problems in Nigeria is true federalism and absolute resource control at least on state level.

The best solution to all the problems in Nigeria is to split the dammn nation. We have to be honest with ourselves. No one likes each other.

And to be honest, Nigeria needs the Igbos more than we need them. The entire East doesn't need Nigeria.
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by delimit(m): 11:31am On Jan 21, 2011
I enjoyed all what you had said about the great city NNEWI.

I did my youth service in Nnewi (cutix cable) 2002/2003, I feel ashamed of my self that a city like this can be neglected by both federal and state government.please dont blame everything on the federal government alone,in every government in Nigeria at least one indigence of the state is a member of the federal executive, when others in the federal executives are busy discussing about the problem in their states, what happen to people from Anambra, they only think of themselves, they are selfish people.

let me point it out to you categorically that in the entire Ibo race, Anambarian are the people that love money most, they are less concern about the development of their state.

In 2003, ABC Nwosu (minister of Health) is from Nnewi, he only tarred the road that leads to his house that all.he is less concern about Nnobi road,Nwko market(sources of revenue to millions),umuanuka road (most company are located) etc.
most notable business man in Nigeria are from Nnewi, does it mean they can not use their influence to develop Nnewi.let me mention few of them-Cosmos Madukah (Cocharis),Innocent (Innoson),The owner of Gabros international,ogbuawa motorcycle,the owner of A-Z petroleum,Ibeto, Engr Ajulu Uzodike(cutix cable).
People of Nnewi have to call a town hall meeting for them to discuss the way forward.

During my youth service I visited all the states in the east, I will not deceive you, the worst region in nigeria in terms of infrastructure is the southeast without any apology.
All the political appointee from the region are thieves all they do is to fill their pocket and nothing more
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by Mobinga: 11:35am On Jan 21, 2011
kildran:

What abt Ibo tribalists Are u makin any sense at all. A piece of logic, yr post is tribal, tribalist are silly, So automatically u are silly.
I said Yoruba Tribalists Are Foolish.  If you don't have the common sense to comprehend what a 4-letter sentence means, then I'm sorry for you and I'm calling the psychiatrists to lock you up in an asylum, as only someone with an IQ of less than negative 10 would fail to comprehend what that sentence means.
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by Abagworo(m): 11:36am On Jan 21, 2011
Kalu Akanu:

The best solution to all the problems in Nigeria is to split the dammn nation. We have to be honest with ourselves. No one likes each other.

And to be honest, Nigeria needs the Igbos more than we need them. The entire East doesn't need Nigeria.

Frankly I would rather want my people(clan) as a country of ours or remain in Nigeria under true federalism.I prefer not to be part of your proposed Igbo country.
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by KaluAkanu: 11:43am On Jan 21, 2011
Abagworo:

Frankly I would rather want my people(clan) as a country of ours or remain in Nigeria under true federalism.I prefer not to be part of your proposed Igbo country.

ChinenyeN is that you?  grin Don't tell me he has won you over. What is your clan?

To be honest, no one gives a dammn about these small Igbo clans. In the wider scheme of things, who in this world will be concerned with a TRIBAL name. People worry about ethnicities. Not these little backward clan structures.

The sooner my people realize that, the better.
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by KaluAkanu: 11:47am On Jan 21, 2011
I am not even from Nnewi, but I am concerned with this Igbo town's infrastructure. People need to get rid of this clannish sentiment. As someone who has lived in various parts of Igboland, I can say I feel comfortable wherever I am.
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by Abagworo(m): 11:58am On Jan 21, 2011
@ezeuche akanu.chinenyeN did not win me over.I am one Igbo man who has gone right round and studied everything and understands Igbo people well.Right from pre-colonial times we have never agreed and nothing in this world will make it happen because that remains our heritage.

Renowned Igbo writer Chinua Achebe couldn't help but acknowledge this.I remain pro-Igbo.
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by Guyman02: 12:52pm On Jan 21, 2011
There is a disconnect between the people and their government. There is also a wild belief among the local people in Igboland that political appointments whether by election or selection is for the benefit of the individual and his family. Peter Obi has been working hard to re-orientate the people that governance is about service to the community.

There is also a fear by the Igbo elite that doing anything for the good of the common people in Igbo communities will lead to getting too close to them and they can do them harm instead of appreciating their efforts.

The fear of the unknown can lead to delays, its difficult to build new roads and projects in many Igbo communities because it will pass through 'Offia ndi nmuo' land of the spirits and bring calamity upon the community as propounded by their forefathers and the people resist and this can lead to projects budgeted to be relocated to other areas. Its also difficult for the people to provide land for projects even if it is for the good of the generality.

While we implore the FG to help this cities in the SE to develop to modern standards, its also imperative that the people should change the way they see things and think of means of working as brothers devoid of rancour to achieve their goals.
The SE People should go back to the visions of people like Michael Okpara and Sam Mbakwe for the SE to achieve greatness.
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by delimit(m): 1:57pm On Jan 21, 2011
All Igbo politician are Selfish.
let me give you an example-Onitsha-owerri-Aba road by now should be the best road in Nigeria but what is the state of that road now,the dualization and repair of that road has always be giving to only one person in the zone,
all he do is to put caterpillars and bulldozer on the road for like 3-6 months after nothing more-the owner of champion newspaper[b](Nwayanwu)[/b]
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by oludashmi(f): 2:50pm On Jan 21, 2011
Kalu Akanu:

The best solution to all the problems in Nigeria is to split the dammn nation. We have to be honest with ourselves. No one likes each other.

And to be honest, Nigeria needs the Igbos more than we need them. The entire East doesn't need Nigeria.

You will be surprised that 10% igbo will never return home even after breaking the country, dont argue with me, I have igbo colleagues and friends who have never prayed for biafra cos they are not likely to step that land (except for marriage purposes) due to . .  undecided

Then in a maximum of 10yrs, 60% of the ones that returned to biafra would have been back or willing to go back to their various biz states, places and investments. Leaving the nation as deserted as it used to be.

Then, who will you hold responsible?
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by EkoIle1: 3:02pm On Jan 21, 2011
Mobinga:

I said Yoruba Tribalists Are Foolish.  If you don't have the common sense to comprehend what a 4-letter sentence means, then I'm sorry for you and I'm calling the psychiatrists to lock you up in an asylum, as only someone with an IQ of less than negative 10 would fail to comprehend what that sentence means.

Only tribally foolish and misguided people like you label everything, even obvious historical facts tribal, too bad you're yet to figure out and comprehend that the so called Yoruba tribalists are the least of your worries.

What ever shortcomings and lousy state of affairs in your towns and villages emanates from the actions, inactions  and decisions of your leaders and people in general, not Yoruba people.


lol @ Nigeria needs the Igbos more than we need them. What a foolish and ignorant statement. A great percentage of your people can't even make it without venturing into other parts of Nigeria, especially Yoruba land, same Yoruba folks you love to hate.


Abeg shut up sometimes,
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by Abagworo(m): 3:09pm On Jan 21, 2011
oludashmi:

You will be surprised that 10% igbo will never return home even after breaking the country, dont argue with me, I have igbo colleagues and friends who have never prayed for biafra cos they are not likely to step that land (except for marriage purposes) due to . .  undecided

Then in a maximum of 10yrs, 60% of the ones that returned to biafra would have been back or willing to go back to their various biz states, places and investments. Leaving the nation as deserted as it used to be.

Then, who will you hold responsible?



@bolded.You are either misinformed or ignorant.Igboland remains the most densely populated area in Nigeria today.The five most densely populated states in Nigeria are Lagos,Anambra,Imo,Abia and Akwa-Ibom.

2ndly,there is no need for an Igbo in another territory to leave unless the place becomes unfavourable.It is like asking George Bush,Bill Clinton and Obama to go back to Ireland and Kenya.
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by aljharem(m): 3:10pm On Jan 21, 2011
raycomray:

AS AN IBO MAN, I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DISAPPOINTED BY THE WAY IBOS HANDLE LEADERSHIP. THAT "JUNGLE LIKE-SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST ATTITUDE" IS A PROBLEM WHICH WILL CONTINUE TO HUNT OUR CORPORATE EXISTENCE AND POLITICAL RELEVANCE IN NIGERIA AND BEYOND.

THE PROBLEM OF THE IBOS IS NOT WITH THE CIVIL WAR, HAUSA'S, YORUBA'S, ETC. LET US FOR ONCE DISCUSS ISSUES AND DISALLOW ETHNO-RELIGIOUS SENTIMENTS FROM BECLOUDING OUR SENSE OF REASONING AND OBJECTIVITY. THE IBO NATION COULD ACHIEVE MORE EVEN WITHOUT OIL REVENUE IF WE ARE A BIT MORE ORGANIZED WITH A PURPOSEFUL SENSE OF LEADERSHIP.

THE GOVT OF ANAMBRA STATE SHOULD LOOK INWARDS VIA IGR( INTERNALLY GENERATED REVENUES) AND LIFT NNEWI OUT OF THE DUNGEONS OF UNDERDEVELOPMENT. FURTHERMORE, THE SOUTHEAST "LEADERS OF THOUGHT" SHOULD COME TOGETHER TO DRAFT A 20-YEAR DEVELOPMENTAL PLAN FOR THE IBO NATION. MAYBE, OUR FUTURE LIES IN OUR HANDS AND NOT IN OIL REVENUE, HAUSA'S, YORUBA'S ETC

see words

i admire your truthfulness
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by Abagworo(m): 3:12pm On Jan 21, 2011
Eko Ile:

Only tribally foolish and misguided people like you label everything, even obvious historical facts tribal, too bad you're yet to figure out and comprehend that the so called Yoruba tribalists are the least of your worries.

What ever shortcomings and lousy state of affairs in your towns and villages emanates from the actions, inactions  and decisions of your leaders and people in general, not Yoruba people.


lol @ Nigeria needs the Igbos more than we need them. What a foolish and ignorant statement. A great percentage of your people can't even make it without venturing into other parts of Nigeria, especially Yoruba land, same Yoruba folks you love to hate.


Abeg shut up sometimes,

I would want to believe that you are not calling Lagos Yorubaland.
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by aljharem(m): 3:19pm On Jan 21, 2011
Abagworo:

I would want to believe that you are not calling Lagos Yorubaland.

no no no

lagos is igboland just like abuja and kaduna undecided
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by KaluAkanu: 3:22pm On Jan 21, 2011
oludashmi:

You will be surprised that 10% igbo will never return home even after breaking the country, dont argue with me, I have igbo colleagues and friends who have never prayed for biafra cos they are not likely to step that land (except for marriage purposes) due to . .  undecided

Then in a maximum of 10yrs, 60% of the ones that returned to biafra would have been back or willing to go back to their various biz states, places and investments. Leaving the nation as deserted as it used to be.

Then, who will you hold responsible?



The South-East have never been deserted you big ol dummy. Who the hell told you that? The South-East is the most densely populated region in Nigeria, and Africa in general. That is why you find many Igbos leaving the South-East for "greener" pastures, because the population density is too much.

And where are you getting these dammn percentages? lmao Are you pulling them out of your arse? Like I said before, do not comment on something you know nothing about. Pulling random numbers and trying to sound smart. Mehn some people like yourself need to go back to school.

An education is a terrible thing to waste.
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by fstranger1: 3:25pm On Jan 21, 2011
alj harem:

no no no

lagos is igboland just like abuja and kaduna undecided

And isreal and London and anywhere else that is flourishing
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by KaluAkanu: 3:26pm On Jan 21, 2011
fstranger1:

And isreal and London and anywhere else that is flourishing

If you call Lagos "flourishing," I think you need your head examined.

One of the slummiest cities in the world, and people still beat their chest about Lagos. Do your people enjoy these dirty, overcrowded cities?
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by jason123: 3:34pm On Jan 21, 2011
@ agbaworo
Pls, do not join issues with anyone. Your comments are always respected by me so do not be tribalistic about them, pls.
Re: Nnewi City: Abandoned And Neglected! by NwaNnewi: 3:35pm On Jan 21, 2011
Oludash,
I still have to figure out why the average Yoruba tends to think s/he knows the mindset and even future intentions of the Igboman. It is very interesting how glibly and authoritatively you state the motives/motivations of the Igbo. Abeg put small brake i o! You are right though that under stable conditions, the businessman will return to his base of business. This is universal and obtains in advanced countries as well.

Are you aware that the Igbo have a saying which guides their philosophy as sojourners that goes something like this: "a man takes care of the abode he calls home". No be your Yoruba brother write say "East or West, home is the best"? Or does that apply only to non-Igbos. Think about it and approach the subject a bit more objectively. Well done!

And for your declarative statement that a certain percentage of Igbo will NEVER return home, , I'll just suggest that never is such a strong word; which is why the French say "ne dit jamais jamais" - never say never. Even if any percentage of Igbo intend *never* to return home initially, tell me what choice they'll have when the hate-spurred violence that's inevitably directed at them out of fear of their dominance rears its ugly head. The Igbo know this. They know they are feared, envied, villified and therefore despised by their other Naija "brothers". They have enough history to know this for a fact. Regardless of how close you are to your Igbo colleagues, they know they have to guard their lives. Biafra is deeper than you'll ever understand but that's a story for another day.



oludashmi:

You will be surprised that 10% igbo will never return home even after breaking the country, dont argue with me, I have igbo colleagues and friends who have never prayed for biafra cos they are not likely to step that land (except for marriage purposes) due to . .  undecided

Then in a maximum of 10yrs, 60% of the ones that returned to biafra would have been back or willing to go back to their various biz states, places and investments. Leaving the nation as deserted as it used to be.

Then, who will you hold responsible?


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