TAO11:
The Etinosa boy would be thinking:


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Etinosa1234:

[s]My argument with u previously showed that u are obviously shallow and brainwashedSomeone told me that if u argue with a mad man they'll bring u down with experience.... everyone knows u are mad...So I don comot hand for ur matter..beside I see that gregyboy don dey treat ur fuvkup..He Jus want make I testify b4 u say na lieas per the kind liar wey u be ...See my signature :DI'm busy...maybe when I'm less busy...I'll think of giving u audience for ur balderdash[/s]

TAO11:


Gregyboy won't let you rest in peace after you've suffered for days at my hands before you managed to finally escape wounded. LMAO!

Anyways, follow this this thread carefully and you will notice that I never for once requested for ocean of your tears and sorrow which you're flooding with.

You and gayboy sound like people with literally just one brain-cell. But I don't need your tears though! Hahaha.

All I have been asking for is evidence. Got it?? Good boy. Lol.

Etinosa1234:
[s]Lol...after squashing ur childhood stories in d former thread...u want to set up a new one...
sorry...I don't argue with kids anymore[/s]

TAO11:


[s]
It's obvious that in your one brain-cell gulible Edo world, "running away wounded, till date" = "squashing". Hakhakhak! Squashing ko, squatting ni. LMAO!

Anyways, I never for once requested for ocean of your tears and sorrow which you're flooding with.

Rather, I asked for evidence and reason. Is that to much for an Edo to come with. [/s]

Etinosa1234:
[s]u don't accept defeat sha... that's nice... Ur routine...write long speech of nonsensedo not post screenshotrepeatI'm outta here[/s]

TAO11:


Gregyboy won't let you rest in peace after you've suffered for days at my hands before you managed to finally escape wounded. LMAO!

Anyways, follow this this thread carefully and you will notice that I never for once requested for ocean of your tears and sorrows which you're flooding with.

You and gayboy sound like people with literally just one brain-cell. But I don't need your tears though! Hahaha.

All I have been asking for is evidence. Got it?? Good boy. Lol.

gregyboy:
[s]Tao am not like you who is a tribal bigot and not from a tribe full of cowards, yea our _naked ancestors bleeped your clothed ancestors up and ruled them, you shouldn't because of that swear to hate at us we the predecessors, the past should remain in the past,and you shouldn't because of that force our oba to be a yoruba man, _{Yes, oba eweka 11 made some unfounded diplomatic claims connecting benin monarchy to yoruba heritage, but that should be regarded as diplomatic statement as it is, and not what you want it to be}And again you shouldn't because of that read all benin history both the one that shouldn't be your concernLol.... I give it to you, TAO11 you are well groomed at benin history than i, that is to the fact you have sworn to tarnish the benin history, am still wondering on the event that may have caused, this your obscene zealous journey,
To be truthful me as a benin man, i can barely read a page on yoruba history i will fall to sleep, before i even begin, no one can stand to read an history full of weaklings, and how they were conquered by the naked tribe, the female warriors of dahomey and the Fulanis, but you on the other hand you dinned with the history of benin to the point you give me hint on your various narratives and perhaps and for sure you love reading the benin history
it gives pride not to you the reader alone, but west africa as a whole....
_{Now what do you want to tell me? , you have been troubling my life for since yesterday, you cant even hide your eagerness towards benins, anywhere you see a benin person, you are just so eager to draw him into a tribal debate}
It is true the Bini’s dont know the history of the oba dynasty, at 1823 the benins told ethnographers it was a white man who had established the oba dynasty, prior to 1914 oba eweka 2, accredited it to ife, ascribing it to ife is not the issue, the issue is the credibility and authencityof the claims, but the credibility is zero once more just like the first
But one thing we know is the title oba is indigenous to we benins since there was no credibility between the benin-ife connection
2) orun oba ado was false, after the excavation at the burial site no skul was found or any bones
3) no archaeological evidence or written document could be found to support ife-benin relationship, the sculpture which was dugged from tue oba palace deoecit the sculpture of an eastern Yoruba king probably owo which benin had strong ties with
4) not all scholars support artworks was introduced from ife to Benin because of the variance of both artworks
5)though the story of ekaladeran existed it wasnt a story of the origin of the oba dynasty, Ekaladerhan story had come after the establishment of the oba dynasty
6) in benin language, it is common have two words for one thing "oba, ogie meaning (king), onisan, ikebe (ass) than have one word different pronunciation which is common to the yorubas
7) we dont know the validity of ogiso dynasty, but from the look it sound mytical
the account of Ogane from the benins could have been the link to settle this ife-benin diatonicity but it failed the position of ogane was to the east and not the west were ife lies
9) the benin-ife myth failed to talk on the relationship that existed between benin and oyo even when oromiyan left benin to settle in oyo
Lastly i know you will quote heaven and earth when you see this post but i dont mind... I plan in my spare time to create a thread supporting with all my evidence
titled there was never a benin-ife connection
Before i will do that i will give an open audience for anyone to debunk me and my claims especially you TAO11........ But make sure the evidence you bring forth are prior to 1475-1897 quote me johnson work, the works of ajayi Crowther but nothing below this date, archeological findings are allowed
An open audience[/s]

googi:
Gregyboy,
You nor dey hia wod.

Tao11 don flog you well well. Me self dey pity you. Why you like kobobo so?

TAO11, A beg o. Na our pigin wey loss. Me sef dey cover my face foram.

Doo, abeg.

gregyboy:



Tao am not like you who is a tribal bigot and not from a tribe full of cowards, yea our _naked ancestors bleeped your clothed ancestors up and ruled them, you shouldn't because of that swear to hate at us we the predecessors, the past should remain in the past,and you shouldn't because of that force our oba to be a yoruba man,

_{Yes, oba eweka 11 made some unfounded diplomatic claims connecting benin monarchy to yoruba heritage, but that should be regarded as diplomatic statement as it is, and not what you want it to be}


And again you shouldn't because of that read all benin history both the one that shouldn't be your concern
Lol.... I give it to you, TAO11 you are well groomed at benin history than i, that is to the fact you have sworn to tarnish the benin history, am still wondering on the event that may have caused, this your obscene zealous journey,
To be truthful me as a benin man, i can barely read a page on yoruba history i will fall to sleep, before i even begin, no one can stand to read an history full of weaklings, and how they were conquered by the naked tribe, the female warriors of dahomey and the Fulanis, but you on the other hand you dinned with the history of benin to the point you give me hint on your various narratives and perhaps and for sure you love reading the benin history
it gives pride not to you the reader alone, but west africa as a whole....


_{Now what do you want to tell me? , you have been troubling my life for since yesterday, you cant even hide your eagerness towards benins, anywhere you see a benin person, you are just so eager to draw him into a tribal debate}


It is true the Bini’s dont know the history of the oba dynasty, at 1823 the benins told ethnographers it was a white man who had established the oba dynasty,
prior to 1914 oba eweka 2, accredited it to ife, ascribing it to ife is not the issue, the issue is the credibility and authencityof the claims, but the credibility is zero once more just like the first

But one thing we know is the title oba is indigenous to we benins since there was no credibility between the benin-ife connection

2) orun oba ado was false, after the excavation at the burial site no skul was found or any bones

3) no archaeological evidence or written document could be found to support ife-benin relationship, the sculpture which was dugged from tue oba palace deoecit the sculpture of an eastern Yoruba king probably owo which benin had strong ties with

4) not all scholars support artworks was introduced from ife to Benin because of the variance of both artworks

5)though the story of ekaladeran existed it wasnt a story of the origin of the oba dynasty, Ekaladerhan story had come after the establishment of the oba dynasty

6) in benin language, it is common have two words for one thing "oba, ogie meaning (king), onisan, ikebe (ass) than have one word different pronunciation which is common to the yorubas

7) we dont know the validity of ogiso dynasty, but from the look it sound mytical

the account of Ogane from the benins could have been the link to settle this ife-benin diatonicity but it failed the position of ogane was to the east and not the west were ife lies

9) the benin-ife myth failed to talk on the relationship that existed between benin and oyo even when oromiyan left benin to settle in oyo

Lastly i know you will quote heaven and earth when you see this post but i dont mind... I plan in my spare time to create a thread supporting with all my evidence
titled there was never a benin-ife connection


Before i will do that i will give an open audience for anyone to debunk me and my claims especially you TAO11........ But make sure the evidence you bring forth are prior to 1475-1897 quote me johnson work, the works of ajayi Crowther but nothing below this date, archeological findings are allowed

An open audience


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Sewgon79:
The Dangers of Crowning the wrong Prince as Oba

Our traditions, culture and customs are willed to bring peace, truth and light to our land. Our lives are guided both by the spirits and the physical, they are one. Inseparable they weave the destiny of a people far beyond our imagination, the mysteries cannot be unfolded at a glance but once the imbalance occurs by an act considered evil it must take its full course, many pay with their lives even before it can be corrected.

The Binis have for some time now lived as though they have been cursed, Robberies, killings, kidnapping, prostitution, incest and much more, all considered abominations and crimes. The gods and our ancestors must be angry. The one trusted to cleanse the land is the one who leads, he alone bears the burden to find solution, but not without consulting his council, the wise ones and the oracle. The stubbornness of a fly they say allows it to be buried with the coffin. Even though many had suspected where the problem comes from, most were not sure until the battle of the Ogiamien and the Oba Palace began about a year ago.

We are talking about the bond made centuries ago now broken.

The first of such bond is the return of the remains of the Oba to Ile-Ife and to obtain permission for the installation of the new Oba of Benin broken by Oba Akenzua II and continued until now. Benin currently owes them three (3) kings.

Second, the Late Oba Erediauwa allegedly slept with his own blood sister by name Princess Comfort Ikuoyewen Eweka the daughter of Oba Eweka II and had Princes Eheneden and Aghatise Erediauwa. This is an abomination because the daughter of an Oba cannot produce an Oba of Benin. It has never happened in the history of Benin. This is a taboo and an abomination in Bini as incest (sexual intercourse between persons so closely related that they are forbidden by law to marry also: the statutory crime of such a relationship) is not permitted. Once a child is born outside of wedlock and the proper traditional rights cannot be performed including the payment of dowry the child is considered illegitimate.

Third, the refusal for Prince Eheneden, the illegitimate and sacrilegious son of Oba Erediauwa though the first son born to him to honor the Ekiokhagba Treaty and imprisoned the Ogiamien of Utantan and brutalized the Ogiamien Royal Family. The Ekiokhagba Treaty was bond between Ogiso Erebo and Oba Eweka I and has existed and is honored by the crown Prince before he is installed and coronated as the next Oba.

The King must be Kind, compassionate, wise as well being a warrior. He must bring peace, good will and prosperity to his people. However, this does not ring true for Prince Eheneden. His half siblings have suffered his wrath over time. Three that come to mind which happened recently is

When he ordered, the first princess, Theresa Erediauwa out of her home, throwing her belongings into the streets like a tenant and common criminal, disgracing her before the kingdom.
Did nothing to intervene when Prince Ekpen Erediauwa’s land was taken away from him unjustly, and crushing his political will.
And asking Prince Omoregbe Erediauwa to remove the sculpture of his late mother, Queen Esther from the five junction.
He allowed himself become a political tool to destroy his own people, and sold out many times for a plate of porridge.

Recently, he drove away palace chiefs asking them to bring their sons in their stead, also an abomination, since a son cannot take over the title of his father until the final burial ceremony is performed.

He also committed a taboo and an abomination by committing incest, he slept with many of his own blood relations, including the daughter of Prince Festus Eweka, who had two children for him. Recently she was seen in a rage outside the palace for not been allowed to see him. As for the second wife she is the daughter of Eweka too.

These are not the makings of a king. We have a common adage, “Whom the gods want to destroy they first make mad.

And to make it worse, in the Nations Newspaper online on May 25, 2016 published, “Edo State Government has withdrawn a letter earlier issued on the Oba of Benin, saying it was issued in error.

In a retraction signed by the Secretary to State Government, Prof Julius Ihonvbere, dated May 25, 2016, the government stated: “In deference to the revered age-long tradition and respect for the sensibilities of the people of the great Benin Kingdom, the Government of Edo State hereby withdraws a letter issued on 24th May 2016 entitled: “Appointment of His Royal Highness Edaiken N’Uselu, Crown Prince Eheneden Erediauwa as the Oba of Benin.””

All these are bad signs and omen of what is to come.

The true Crown Prince is Ada Erediauwa if Benin is to be at peace. And for the Ogiamien Royal family to rest, Peace must be pursued by the Oba Palace through talks and not violence, and the Ekiokhagba Treaty honored as it has always done for centuries now.

Let the Oracle speak now in truth for the Bini People.

Ogiamien ghato kpere, Ise.

Sewgon79:
The Dangers of Crowning the wrong Prince as Oba

Our traditions, culture and customs are willed to bring peace, truth and light to our land. Our lives are guided both by the spirits and the physical, they are one. Inseparable they weave the destiny of a people far beyond our imagination, the mysteries cannot be unfolded at a glance but once the imbalance occurs by an act considered evil it must take its full course, many pay with their lives even before it can be corrected.

The Binis have for some time now lived as though they have been cursed, Robberies, killings, kidnapping, prostitution, incest and much more, all considered abominations and crimes. The gods and our ancestors must be angry. The one trusted to cleanse the land is the one who leads, he alone bears the burden to find solution, but not without consulting his council, the wise ones and the oracle. The stubbornness of a fly they say allows it to be buried with the coffin. Even though many had suspected where the problem comes from, most were not sure until the battle of the Ogiamien and the Oba Palace began about a year ago.

We are talking about the bond made centuries ago now broken.

The first of such bond is the return of the remains of the Oba to Ile-Ife and to obtain permission for the installation of the new Oba of Benin broken by Oba Akenzua II and continued until now. Benin currently owes them three (3) kings.

Second, the Late Oba Erediauwa allegedly slept with his own blood sister by name Princess Comfort Ikuoyewen Eweka the daughter of Oba Eweka II and had Princes Eheneden and Aghatise Erediauwa. This is an abomination because the daughter of an Oba cannot produce an Oba of Benin. It has never happened in the history of Benin. This is a taboo and an abomination in Bini as incest (sexual intercourse between persons so closely related that they are forbidden by law to marry also: the statutory crime of such a relationship) is not permitted. Once a child is born outside of wedlock and the proper traditional rights cannot be performed including the payment of dowry the child is considered illegitimate.

Third, the refusal for Prince Eheneden, the illegitimate and sacrilegious son of Oba Erediauwa though the first son born to him to honor the Ekiokhagba Treaty and imprisoned the Ogiamien of Utantan and brutalized the Ogiamien Royal Family. The Ekiokhagba Treaty was bond between Ogiso Erebo and Oba Eweka I and has existed and is honored by the crown Prince before he is installed and coronated as the next Oba.

The King must be Kind, compassionate, wise as well being a warrior. He must bring peace, good will and prosperity to his people. However, this does not ring true for Prince Eheneden. His half siblings have suffered his wrath over time. Three that come to mind which happened recently is

When he ordered, the first princess, Theresa Erediauwa out of her home, throwing her belongings into the streets like a tenant and common criminal, disgracing her before the kingdom.
Did nothing to intervene when Prince Ekpen Erediauwa’s land was taken away from him unjustly, and crushing his political will.
And asking Prince Omoregbe Erediauwa to remove the sculpture of his late mother, Queen Esther from the five junction.
He allowed himself become a political tool to destroy his own people, and sold out many times for a plate of porridge.

Recently, he drove away palace chiefs asking them to bring their sons in their stead, also an abomination, since a son cannot take over the title of his father until the final burial ceremony is performed.

He also committed a taboo and an abomination by committing incest, he slept with many of his own blood relations, including the daughter of Prince Festus Eweka, who had two children for him. Recently she was seen in a rage outside the palace for not been allowed to see him. As for the second wife she is the daughter of Eweka too.

These are not the makings of a king. We have a common adage, “Whom the gods want to destroy they first make mad.

And to make it worse, in the Nations Newspaper online on May 25, 2016 published, “Edo State Government has withdrawn a letter earlier issued on the Oba of Benin, saying it was issued in error.

In a retraction signed by the Secretary to State Government, Prof Julius Ihonvbere, dated May 25, 2016, the government stated: “In deference to the revered age-long tradition and respect for the sensibilities of the people of the great Benin Kingdom, the Government of Edo State hereby withdraws a letter issued on 24th May 2016 entitled: “Appointment of His Royal Highness Edaiken N’Uselu, Crown Prince Eheneden Erediauwa as the Oba of Benin.””

All these are bad signs and omen of what is to come.

The true Crown Prince is Ada Erediauwa if Benin is to be at peace. And for the Ogiamien Royal family to rest, Peace must be pursued by the Oba Palace through talks and not violence, and the Ekiokhagba Treaty honored as it has always done for centuries now.

Let the Oracle speak now in truth for the Bini People.

Ogiamien ghato kpere, Ise.

gregyboy:


Who be this confused yoruba, loss... If i write a full epistle yorubas it would end in premium tears � dont make me start boy

TAO11:
Honorable minister off your mic Oo!

gregyboy:



Ignorance would not kill you, lol i just wanted to ignore this writeup before......


Let me give you a brief understanding on benin

And the person that wrote this is trying to get sympathy from the people that dont know the custom of benin.....
It is not a taboo for the oba of benin to marry from the royal family it has always been a norm even in ancients past, modernization made it incest, an oba marrying from the royal family helped in strengthen the royal bloodline, they also can marry outsider too, they are some past, incidence that happened in benin that it was requested the oba marry from his royal bloodline
That is cousin, to keep the ogiso dynasty strong, the oba also is allowed to marry outsiders too,
It is a thing of joy if the cousin of the oba gives birth to the first born, the people would be happy that a strong blue blood is going to rule, unlike a prince from commoners

Again when a particular oba dynasty is done, like the present oba EwuareII dynasty if it has ended his own particular family has no business to any royal entity or even to be called prince, to the benins they would be seen little above the commoners, the ewuare11, family completely packs out from the palace and the new king emerge with his family,

That is the crown prince packs in as a the new king while is own father family packs out completely from the palace, in the ancient, it mostly involves a tuggle of war to resolve this, any of the brother that emerge the other must packout for the other


The ogiamien treaty was never involving ife, anyone who is making a remark to it, he is using the myth for his advantage, the true history was never involving ife.......

Note again....

Oba marrying or impregnating is distance cousin or any of his cousin is bounded by royal custom, it has always been happening, it is only allowed in the royal dynasty alone and not to commoners
, this is to secure the royal bloodline, almost every dynasty in the world did this one way or the other even the British dynasty and the Egyptian dynasty...... To secure their bloodline

Stupid yorubas are masturbation on our history,
Claiming the oba as yoruba by all means grin

TAO11:
Your damage control was not effective.

Stop the royal rape and incest.

Return the royal heads to Ife.

Let Benin know peace.

gregyboy:
.

TAO11:
Stop justifying your Oba’s rape and incest.

This is Africa!

gregyboy:
Crazy Bitch

TAO11:
Stop justifying your Oba’s rape and incest.

E enter die!

gregyboy:
Craze woman

TAO11:
The Oba of Benin must stop raping and ‘incesting’ whether you like it or not.

gregyboy:
This one you're so instrested in rape and have turned to rape advocate , were you raped lately

TAO11:
No, the Oba of Benin raped lately, from the information reaching us.

So his raping and ’incesting’ has to stop.

gregyboy:


U dey find who u won follow talk, your Yoruba brothers full there, i hear say yoruba men nor sabi Bleep, so the hearing of our king fucking makes you wet,
Yes we benin are good on bed, just letme know if you want to try it out

TAO11:
The raping and ’incesting’ has to stop.

Young little boys for that matter.

gregyboy:
Do you wanna try my love-vendor love-vendor

TAO11:
No distractions please.

The raping and incest in Ile-Ibini must stop.

gregyboy:
Ile binu kee you

TAO11:
I conquered Ile-Ibinu.

Ogun kee you instead

gregyboy:
Ogun nor fit kill benin person na we get am,

Ogun dey kee you