^{(Update: I have a new article on the topic. You might want to check it out too
https://www.nairaland.com/6052265/both-redpill-feminism-consequences-atheism)}

I am new to this knowledge of the Redpill. But being older than many of you here teaching this tool, and having lived through varying kinds of human experiences, (including fortunately or unfortunately the negative and shameful types), I believe I hold an enough skills set to analyse some of the information I have seen so far and pick at where I think we are going wrong.

There are many though but I only want to talk about confusing Redpill with women hating.

Just a few decades ago, most men and women were existing unsuspicious of each other until the formal launch and acceptance of the feminism movement.

When the feminism proponents presented their views, many of their complaints were understandable and were observable as what were actually happening. (Men were clearly - conscious and unconsciously - impeding women's freedom.)

For the exposure the feminism movement brought to this injustice, many men and women became compassionate towards the movement and urged others to give them their support as well.

But just like many other areas where humans have tried to fight injustice, the activist soon became the oppressor. Social life gradually turned in disfavour of men, and their rights overlooked. I think this gave rise to the tools of the Redpill. Feminists quickly descended from equal right seekers to men haters and men abusers.

Now some men are misusing the tools of Redpill to women-hate. The Redpill seeks to equip the knowledgeable man to get the most out of his life, shielding himself from the toxicity of feminism while getting the best out of women.

If during your redpill education you have grown to hate women, you need to check how that stance might hurt your chances of being a well rounded, happy modern man.

Firstnebo:
I am new to this knowledge of the Redpill. But being older than many of you here teaching this tool, and having lived through varying kinds of human experiences, (including fortunately or unfortunately the negative and shameful types), I believe I hold an enough skills set to analyse some of the information I have seen so far and pick at where I think we are going wrong.

There are many though but I only want to talk about confusing Redpill with women hating.

Just a few decades ago, most men and women were existing unsuspicious of each other until the formal launch and acceptance of the feminism movement.

When the feminism proponents presented their views, many of their complaints were understandable and were observable as what were actually happening. (Men were clearly - conscious and unconsciously - impeding women's freedom.)

For the exposure the feminism movement brought to this injustice, many men and women became compassionate towards the movement and urged others to give them their support as well.

But just like many other areas where humans have tried to fight injustice, the activist soon became the oppressor. Social life gradually turned in disfavour of men, and their rights overlooked. I think this gave rise to the tools of the Redpill. Feminists quickly descended from equal right seekers to men haters and men abusers.

Now some men are misusing the tools of Redpill to women-hate. The Redpill seeks to equip the knowledgeable man to get the most out of his life, shielding himself from the toxicity of feminism while getting the best out of women.

If during your redpill education you have grown to hate women, you need to check how that stance might hurt your chances of being a well rounded, happy modern man.

There is no woman hate here, everywhere there is an argument there are insults. And besides its not like we just decided to dislike them you cant hate someone except that person gives you a reason to.

Lightangel65:


There is no woman hate here, everywhere there is an argument there are insults. And besides its not like we just decided to dislike them you cant hate someone except that person gives you a reason to.

Do we actually have to argue with "them"? The fact that we have come to view women as "them" I think is a problem in itself

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Firstnebo:


Do we actually have to wargue with "them"? The fact that we have come to view women as "them" I think is a problem in itself

, i think you are directing this thread at the wrong set of people direct this at the misandrists who practice feminism.
So if i cant use them what should i now use? It?

Mgtowmonk:
understanding women isn't misogyny oga if all what you could pick up from the red pill community is hate then you need to get checked yourself


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qwwemsZhFA

If you need to read posts twice before understanding, try and always do so before commenting.

Thank you for the video.

Lightangel65:


, i think you are directing this thread at the wrong set of people direct this at the misandrists who practice feminism.
So if i cant use them what should i now use? It?

Well. The point I am trying to make is that the current state of tension between men and women wasn't started by women specifically, but by Feminists (men and women who wanted power). Women bought into it and today everybody is suffering for it.

My own is that Redpill Shouldn't travel the evil path Feminism took

Firstnebo:
I am new to this knowledge of the Redpill. But being older than many of you here teaching this tool, and having lived through varying kinds of human experiences, (including fortunately or unfortunately the negative and shameful types), I believe I hold an enough skills set to analyse some of the information I have seen so far and pick at where I think we are going wrong.

There are many though but I only want to talk about confusing Redpill with women hating.

Just a few decades ago, most men and women were existing unsuspicious of each other until the formal launch and acceptance of the feminism movement.

When the feminism proponents presented their views, many of their complaints were understandable and were observable as what were actually happening. (Men were clearly - conscious and unconsciously - impeding women's freedom.)

For the exposure the feminism movement brought to this injustice, many men and women became compassionate towards the movement and urged others to give them their support as well.

But just like many other areas where humans have tried to fight injustice, the activist soon became the oppressor. Social life gradually turned in disfavour of men, and their rights overlooked. I think this gave rise to the tools of the Redpill. Feminists quickly descended from equal right seekers to men haters and men abusers.

Now some men are misusing the tools of Redpill to women-hate. The Redpill seeks to equip the knowledgeable man to get the most out of his life, shielding himself from the toxicity of feminism while getting the best out of women.

If during your redpill education you have grown to hate women, you need to check how that stance might hurt your chances of being a well rounded, happy modern man.

A mature and a wise opinion.
We must do all to avoid the entrapment of hating the opposite gender.
None are entirely saints and neither are entirely sinners.
Toxic masculinity and femininity must be expunged from our mindset.
The problem is neither male nor female but our personal prejudices and biases stemming from past hurtful experiences.
Recycling old hurts and using it as a format to view the opposite gender will be harming us much more than helping us.

Nobody is hating women, we are only trying to make our fellow men understand the manipulative ways of women and how to control it when applied on them. If anyone hates, it should be the women that cry at every red pill thread and insult men.

Hmmmm.
Well, to me, it's almost (if not) the same thing...some reasons why men consider d red pill is a result of coming to terms that women re gold diggers nd emotional blackmailers..
It's hard to see women as these nd not hate them especially d overly entitled ones..
However, some may agree that red pilling doesn't necessitate women hating based on their own view as to reasons why men choose it so it's definitely a 50-50 vote

Mgtowmonk:
understanding women isn't misogyny oga if all what you could pick up from the red pill community is hate then you need to get checked yourself


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qwwemsZhFA

STFU and understand the post, dimwit.

Chii59:

A mature and a wise opinion.
We must do all to avoid the entrapment of hating the opposite gender.
None are entirely saints and neither are entirely sinners.
Toxic masculinity and femininity must be expunged from our mindset.
The problem is neither male nor female but our personal prejudices and biases stemming from past hurtful experiences.
Recycling old hurts and using it as a format to view the opposite gender will be harming us much more than helping us.

Of course. The problem is neither male nor female.

The onus is upon us to let our own light shine to the extent we understand these things. Thank you

BigJoe19:
Nobody is hating women, we are only trying to make our fellow men understand the manipulative ways of women and how to control it when applied on them. If anyone hates, it should be the women that cry at every red pill thread and insult men.

Of course in my post I acknowledge the value of Redpill. We however have to admit that some people are teaching others how to use those tools to manipulate or outrightly hate women

BigJoe19:
Nobody is hating women, we are only trying to make our fellow men understand the manipulative ways of women and how to control it when applied on them. If anyone hates, it should be the women that cry at every red pill thread and insult men.

Most men are misunderstanding the red pill. Heck, if a guy ever does any nice stuff for a girl, his girl, its seen as SIMPING. Personally, people's opinion don't matter to me and I keep a weather eye on my girl but the miseducation on young guys is bad. I'm gonna have a daughter one day and I'm damn well sure i'll raise her right with my son/sons. If y'all raise males with this mentality, I'm gonna die a happy man if my daughter decides to be single. Like WT actual fvck is wrong with y'all?...

I understand exactly what the red Pill is about and if you don't understand what I and the OP mean, don't bother quoting me.

chocboi78:
Hmmmm.
Well, to me, it's almost (if not) the same thing...some reasons why men consider d red pill is a result of coming to terms that women re gold diggers nd emotional blackmailers..
It's hard to see women as these nd not hate them especially d overly entitled ones..
However, some may agree that red pilling doesn't necessitate women hating based on their own view as to reasons why men choose it so it's definitely a 50-50 vote

Chocboi. It is not scientifically true that women are gold diggers and emotional blackmailers. Study upon study on sociology has proven that women are good.

Generalisation and stereotyping of any subject is often wrong.

Even the video shared by @Mgtowmonk above has something to say about that

arthorjnr:



Most men are misunderstanding the red pill. Heck, if a guy ever does any nice stuff for a girl, his girl, its seen as SIMPING. Personally, people's opinion don't matter to me and I keep a weather eye on my girl but the miseducation on young guys is bad. I'm gonna have a daughter one day and I'm damn well sure i'll raise her right with my son/sons. If y'all raise males with this mentality, I'm gonna die a happy man if my daughter decides to be single. Like WT actual fvck is wrong with y'all?...

I understand exactly what the red Pill is about and if you don't understand what I and the OP mean, don't bother quoting me.

Thank you Arthor. It will not end well for us and our children unless we put it right.

Ok no need quoting you, you can think anything you want. Your life your business but next time don't quote me.

Firstnebo:


Of course in my post I acknowledge the value of Redpill. We however have to admit that some people are teaching others how to use those tools to manipulate or outrightly hate women

You're right.
If you take a closer look at this MGTOW, redpill, Nigerian brand of feminism et cetera, you'll see a lot of people who have been hurt in the past, who have grown to hate a whole gender, rather than those who hurt them, preaching and disseminating the gospel of misogyny and misandry to whomever cares to listen.
It is not psychology. It's hate wrapped up in an ideology. A caustic one at that.

Imagine a future where women teach their daughters that men are evil, and men teach their sons that women are equally evil and should never be trusted, imagine the multiplicity if the hate being preached today is passed on through time.
Very ugly, right?

I will say it again, the problem is neither male nor female. Our past experiences form a basis on which most of us understand issues.
You must understand that there are good and bad people in each gender.

Chii59:

You're right.
If you take a closer look at this MGTOW, redpill, Nigerian brand of feminism et cetera, you'll see a lot of people who have been hurt in the past, who have grown to hate a whole gender, rather than those who hurt them, preaching and disseminating the gospel of misogyny and misandry to whomever cares to listen.
It is not psychology. It's hate wrapped up in an ideology. A caustic one at that.

Imagine a future where women teach their daughters that men are evil, and men teach their sons that women are equally evil and should never be trusted, imagine the multiplicity if the hate being preached today is passed on through time.
Very ugly, right?

I will say it again, the problem is neither male nor female. Our past experiences form a basis through which most of us understand issues.
You must understand that there are good and bad people in each gender.

The effect of the wrong-taught is scorching today that it's already scary to imagine the multiplicity in the future.

I agree there are good people in each gender and those are the people I am vouching for

Chii59:

Imagine a future where women teach their daughters that men are evil, and men teach their sons that women are equally evil and should never be trusted

And the sinister thing is that in such an environment, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. Men would respond with bad, and women will correspondingly react with bad

Firstnebo:


Chocboi. It is not scientifically true that women are gold diggers and emotional blackmailers. Study upon study on sociology has proven that women are good.

Generalisation and stereotyping of any subject is often wrong.

Even the video shared by @Mgtowmonk above has something to say about that

yes bro, but like I said "some " men feel that way mostly based on personal experiences and u can't actually proove to them "the goodness of women according to sociology" especially wen it comes to r/ship issues..

They'll just call you a simp..just watch out.

Uncle nebo.. You're wise indeed.. Blessed be the woman that wife you..and blessed be thy ofsprings.
We really do need men like you and women who see life without hate or biased feelings.

If you hate women, then you are doing something wrong. Humans from the beginning of time have always sought to make life easier for them selves by understanding that which sought to complicate their lives. Same thing is applicable here.

Powerfly:
They'll just call you a simp..just watch out.

I'm not proud of simping. But it's better that than allow myself be filled with raw learned hate

Powerfly:
Uncle nebo.. You're wise indeed.. Blessed be the woman that wife you..and blessed be thy ofsprings.
We really do need men like you and women who see life without hate or biased feelings.

Thank you my dear Fly. Imagine an online world where I cannot reply this your beautiful compliment because I fear incurring the dreaded verdict - "You Are a Simp!"

Try and imagine that.

Abso1uteZero:
If you hate women, then you are doing something wrong. Humans from the beginning of time have always sought to make life easier for them selves by understanding that which sought to complicate their lives. Same thing is applicable here.

I agree. Please elaborate on your point of view.

You will agree with me that tagging women "vagina people" indiscriminately will not "make life easier" for us

Firstnebo:


Thank you my dear Fly. Imagine an online world where I cannot reply this your beautiful compliment because I fear incurring the dreaded verdict - "You Are a Simp!"

Try and imagine that.

You are a SIMP!!

czarr:
You are a SIMP!!

With honours. (Dr. Simp)

Firstnebo:


Thank you my dear Fly. Imagine an online world where I cannot reply this your beautiful compliment because I fear incurring the dreaded verdict - "You Are a Simp!"

Try and imagine that.

my dear.. What a life.. And the level of hypocrisy is so appalling..