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Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by nengibo: 3:02pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Bonessaw:and what does Okoloama mean in Igbo again 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by nengibo: 3:03pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Bonessaw:I never said I was 4rm Bonny, I know my father land do you? |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by Dedetwo(m): 3:05pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Bonessaw: Ijo was never an ethnic nationality until lately. Those who are claiming Ijo are offspring of members of the British Porters from Akwapim-Togo region, Shipmates from Philippine and India on the British ships and other migrants. 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by Kinematics: 3:06pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Bonessaw: Abeg who be your father for Hart family? Let me expose you now since you want to be st*** on faceless forum. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by Dedetwo(m): 3:12pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Dr. William Balfour Baikie was what gave rise to Bekee used by Ndigbo to describe Europeans. The famed "Nwa Bekee". |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by sageb: 3:24pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
nsiba:that is what Igbos are good at. We don't have their time but you should put that ngwa boy where he belongs. When you leave rivers state and cross to Abia from azumini,ukwa, aba and it's environs all you see is dirts and deathtrap roads in Abia. Abia stinks 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by favor914: 3:27pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Kinematics:Ipob for ever claiming other people’s property (OPP), how can sophisticated open eye Opobo belong to the bush hinterland tribe?, the indigenous people of opobo sold Ndigbo as slaves, go and read your history well, the only land owned by the ibos is at & around Aro-Chukwu what we know today as Abia State. Thieves. Even Onitsha belongs to the Igala people. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by SlayerForever: 3:33pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
BabaRamota1980: Okay. Thanks for this. Quite insightful. But other accounts and documents (including administrative maps) from the colonial masters suggest Bonny is in fact Igbo country. |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by sageb: 3:33pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Bonessaw:you are a liar. Our first governor Diete spiff is the Amayanabo of Brass in Bayelsa. 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by SlayerForever: 3:35pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
nengibo: Tell us what it means in Ijaw please. |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by Dedetwo(m): 3:36pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Kinematics: You run your mouth like a waste pipe. You have not even given the clue of your backwater ethnic nationality yet you have the effrontery to require a member of the forum to divulge the name of his\her father. The trappings of a silly Nigerian. 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by Kinematics: 3:38pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Dedetwo: Resident ipoo clown.. get the f*** out of my mention. 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by sageb: 3:40pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
nengibo:don't mind that ipob guy, he is the one with the "Ofoigbo" moniker. He creates new moniker to make delusional claim against Ijaws. We don't have time for that psychiatric patient with different monikers Ofoigbo,bonessaw,etc is one and the same delusional ipob. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by Dedetwo(m): 3:49pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Kinematics: I guess it takes a basement clown to recognize another clown. What a dung. |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by SlayerForever: 4:00pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
I had to go check even more sources. From Hermann Koler's account (1840) I could gather that apparently, the original Bonny people are a very small bunch and are Ibani by tribe. Slave trade swelled the numbers in Bonny greatly, maybe up to 10 times the number. These added numbers were mainly Igbo people hence the Igbo tongue pushed itself to the fore as the dominant. (Explains it's continued dominance today). However, Ibani survives still, amongst it's native speakers. If this is the case, then the issue is far from an easy one. The Igbo folk there have same rights now to the land after over 200 years of calling it home. Plus they are the majority by a staggering distance. Ibani can't fully and confidently call it theirs anymore being the much smaller number. It's better the two groups live in peace. So Igbo brethren we have brothers on the island of Bonny. 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by nengibo: 4:05pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
SlayerForever:town of curlews
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Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by Bonessaw(m): 4:07pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
nengibo:Okolo in Bonny means Curlew bird. The derivative in Ndokki is Igolo. 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by Bonessaw(m): 4:10pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
nengibo:It has no meaning in Izon. Okolo is the dialectical name of curlew bird in Bonny. Okolo-ama, means town of Curlew birds. 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by Bonessaw(m): 4:14pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
SlayerForever:Bonny is owned by Ndokki. Igbos from other hinteland came the same time visitors from Izon arrived. But the foundation has been Ndoki from day one. Yes, Bonny borrowed the Wari system from Nembe/Kalabari and some cultures from imported Igbo and Izon slaves. But Bonny has been Ndoki and will always be till the end. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by Nobody: 4:16pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
nsiba:theirs obviously a vacuum in yours.i answered your question now get on answering mine.Where your people not sold as salves ? who sold them ? |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by SlayerForever: 4:21pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
I also understand from Koler's account that Igbo had almost totally displaced Ibani as early as 1840. Too bad for Ibani speakers and Ibani culture in general. This shift is now irreversible because the native Igbo speakers are too great in number. |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by SlayerForever: 4:23pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Bonessaw: So you're saying Ndoki and Ibani have same rights to Bonny? Or Ibani don't have any claim whatsoever? |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by Bonessaw(m): 4:23pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
sageb:Nembe/Brass and Bonny are relatives. Bonny and Brass share a lot in common, even as far as having a convenant. In the past when Bonny was at war with her neigbours, Brass were the only group Bonny was at peace with. As a matter of fact Brass made Canoes for Bonny. Nembe/Brass is connected to Aboh, same way Bonny is connected to Ndokki. But on the case of Bonny/Ndoki it goes beyond paternship, it's blood related. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by Bonessaw(m): 4:32pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
SlayerForever:What question is this? Ibani/Ubani etc is the same thing with Bonny. It depends on what dialect you speak. Again, Bonny is independent and can't share priviledges with anyone. The only thing that binds Bonny with Ndokki is the shared clan. This is how the family tree conects, Ndokki-Bonny-Opobo. One birthed one, and the other birthed the last. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by nsiba: 4:37pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
eduj:. Na ya father sell dem.......Guinea pigs of slave trade de talk |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by nsiba: 4:41pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
sageb:. Bro I specialise in IPOB and their lies, as long as it has IPOB I will follow the RATS to KANUs toilet 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by SlayerForever: 4:42pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Bonessaw: Okay. What I mean by Ibani is "Igbani", an Ijaw subgroup. |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by Bonessaw(m): 5:04pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
SlayerForever:Bonny Island is complicated to visitors. The people of Bonny are not the only inhabitants of Bonny Island, a lot of people don't know this. Bonny Kingdom or Grand Bonny has been Igbo speaking from day one. However, Bonny Island also have other group. The Ibani that Koler heard and claimed was from Grand Bonny has never been Bonny main language. It's similar to Lagos Island, where you have the Oba of Lagos rulling Eko and Iru people of Oniru, etc. However, we have the people of Finima with Kongo ancestry. I believe this was the Ibani that Kohler confused himself with and that tongue is still spoken in Finima as of today. This is the language Izon wack historian are using to lure Bonny to drop the Ndoki-Igbo ancestral language. The Kingdom of Bonny is Ndokki and Igbo speaking from day one. But the population was swelled with people from areas like Brass, Ngwa, Andoni, Kalabari and slaves brought from the Igbo and Izon hinterlands as well. The modus operandi in the past was trade with the portuguese, dutch, and french. And you must have the tools to compete in such long distant trade. Bonny cultural structural became Wari styled similar to what is practiced in other eastern Ijo such as Kalabari, Brass etc, to fit the period of that time, but the language remained Igbo. Each household or the wealth of a man in time past, was modelled to fit the age of trade, canoe fleets, population and and able bodied men. This was why there was a level of aculturization by each canoe house to blend slaves inorder to swell their family strenght. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by slimderek(m): 5:15pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
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Re: Igbo Or Ijaw, Who Owns Opobo? by Bonessaw(m): 5:20pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
favor914:Another mongrel on this loose. Keep crying your eyes out and thinking you can landgrab Bonny. Face your useless states and backwater villages. 1 Like |
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