Evboesi:
nor be me talk am o, the first one from a Bini dictionary in 1937

The second was bradbury’s work in the 50s

You can hear from Areafada’s conversation above and deep wisdom, he is certainly a man in his mid fifties and above. Determination of state and nationhood changed a lot of things. The pulling out of the Oba of Benin from the western region also led to many returns my friend from the minute tribe

I mean they are still there, but not as much as they used to be, Egharevba grew up in eastern Yoruba land.

Simbrixton:
it is interesting you say this because i fully believe Ologbo and other itsekiri communities like Ajamimogba ekenhuan to name a few should be part of delta state

Obviously the ijaw and urhobo communities can also not be discounted and obviously recently the igbos visited the 8 villages in orhionwon

Thanks


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub1zAryVFVM?si=8eDjFj0nw_FWilV3

Evboesi:
my brother from the minute tribe, you can’t just believe nonsense, there has to be historical antecedents to it, Gelegele, Siluko, Ekehuan are Edo villages historically, My brother if you start to dae give land to anybody wey come settle for your place wey he many, my brother your land go finish o. The Benin massacre by Alex masxwell Boisragon page 72 confirm the fact that even as close as 1897, Gele Gele was still considered a Bini village, the Europeans knowing solidly the difference between Ijaws and Bini. Isiluko on the other hand can only be interpreted by the Binis, the same with Ekehuan. Even Ologbo is a Bini community and still has large number of Binis even till date. Ajamimogha is a small place and it is exclusively itsekiri, she can go

Like i said, those Binis did not take their land with them, many left the land for the Yorubas, they are free to migrate back to their place and leave our land.

There is no Urhobo community in Edo state, Ijaws on the other hand are free to leave with their communities that were not founded by the Binis.

Those eight “villages” are quarters of one community called Igbanke. Igbanke is the third largest community in that local government subordinate to Urhonigbe and Oza~Aibiokunla. Igbanke being in Edo state is Ogbemudia’s handiwork. I support their partitioning to Delta state if they wholeheartedly support it.


I also would wish for the partitioning of Oza~nogogo, Alilehan, Alisor to Edo state. They speak a dialect of Edo or the Bini language called Oza.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sWKmIKBg5c?si=d_wB0Ti7gZtJ1Jos

Simbrixton:
but even for your reply you can clearly see Ologbo is itsekiri land

The history of how this land was given to the ikaye is not to be disputed

There was never an enogie in ologbo b4 the 90s

We may have not seen the end of the issue but i am glad the oil companies recognise itsekiri in their dealings at least that is a start

My brother later

Evboesi:
in all your getting, get education, in a bid for desperation, you sound uneducated, there are communities speaking Benin alone that got their enogie that same year, in fact in that year five communities got their enogie in 1988 the same year ologbo got theirs.

If the Oil companies in Ologbo recognize itsekiri as whatsoever, i don’t have any fact on that, i can’t play into your hands, there are several versions of this history and there are thousands of Binis who call Ologbo home and nowhere else. That is what matter to us, you cannot take their land anywhere, they will rather die than have that happen.


The material never talked about an itsekiri ownership of Ologbo, it talked about the fact that there are itsekiri waterside villages after ologbo. There is a comma after ologbo,and there is and


“South of Benin city was the Benin sapele road which passed through Ologbo, and Itsekiri waterside villages

ShortBiscuit:








UZEBU
below is a screen shot of page 164 of "the benin city pilgrimage " written by Aisien Ekhaguosa also blessed memory i think you should read and digest yourself

Now to conclude benin oral traditions talk about a physician that helped oba esigie when he had problems with his sight

This physician was also from Ijebu.

Evboesi:
if any body is talking, a man from a tribe that was 34,000 in 1952 should not be talking about size. Among all Edoid groups, Itsekiri would only be mate with Uneme and Okpamheri. In that very year Etsako was 88 thousand, Esan was 180,000. Even Owan was 48 thousand. Bini was 203,000 in population in that year. Isoko was 74,000.

In 1963, when the Nigeria factor came into play, itsekiri being an affiliate of a major group rose 300% on paper to 100,000 while other substantially bigger minority group with no affiliation to any major group for the 11 years did not give birth, did not impregnate their wives. Even when they get pregnant, they take them for abortion. And as such their population rose 20% others 50% greatly quickly defying the transparent census order that has been on board from 1921.

We know these things we are not dumb, the Edos are arguably the most enlightened tribe in the southern part of Nigeria. In Edo and Delta state, aside uneme and maybe Okpamheri, the Itsekiris are definitely the smallest tribe in the whole of the bendel region. The Binis were five times bigger than you guys in 1952, we are still over four times today. We are not your mate in whatever statistics. Itsekiris would just be the size of Binis from Orhiowmon home and abroad

ShortBiscuit:







EDEBIRI
Just to corroborate what simbrixton said above Late pa david edebiri was talking about his own family ancestry you dont need to be a historian for that, the only issue here is he did not lie and you are finding it hard to come to terms with that indeed the entire Ihogbe are members of the Oba family and they spoke a language called urhuazenomo (the language spoken to omo)

Simbrixton:
over 50 percent of binis are actually of yoruba origin my grouse is more should be done to bring this people closer home

The people of usen for example are undeniably yoruba ufe kekere which was founded b4 the coming of Oranmiyan is a point of dispersal to many other villages in ovia south west and ovia north east like
Iguogho the ancestral home of asoro
Utese
Ugu who have an Oba called Oba n'ugu
Egbetta which was settled by 600 warriors
Okada also called oke ada
Madabayo
Ulorin and many more

Within benin itself those of pure ife ancestry greet La uhe one of them obviously is the family of the late esogban of benin edebiri
The Adun family which is very famous in benin
Osifo family okundaye Obasahon families these families are collectively known as igiogbe

The importance of the ogbe and uzebu quarters in benin cannot be overemphasized as well as the yoruba origin of this places

The ihogbe (official family of the oba) are for example from the ogbe quarter which is obviously headed by the isekhure the first son of the ihama

Not to forget oloton and chief edigin of use and obviously the bamawos( bamiwo family)

NigerDeltaMP:


You've said it all. You're very correct on this one

darfay:



Can you please sent a link to the image attached

Simbrixton:
but even for your reply you can clearly see Ologbo is itsekiri land

The history of how this land was given to the ikaye is not to be disputed

There was never an enogie in ologbo b4 the 90s

We may have not seen the end of the issue but i am glad the oil companies recognise itsekiri in their dealings at least that is a start

My brother later