dayokanu:

Is Aljazeera part of the Western press too?

For your information Aljazeera English Network is based in Knightsbridge London and majority of their staff are English some poached from BBC and even in the middle East last January the Palestines wanted to burn their office in reaction to their biased reporting of events there.

Again today,Hugo Rifkind writing in The London Times said " Liberal interventionism,however well meaning,has become the opposite of that.Its a big picture and grand scheme.It theorises from a distance and treats individual lives as irrelevances to be nudged and squashed for greater good.Never mind the fact that Even by its own internal logic,liberal intervention doesn't yet have a case in Libya.It is yesterday's Game."

Remember the lies that they said about Saddam having weapons of mass distruction to justify their desire to invade Iraq and till today nothing has been found and remember the role the western press played ,churning out propaganda after propaganda and was in fact embedded with the coalition forces .

BigPhil:

For your information Aljazeera English Network is based in Knightsbridge London and majority of their staff are English some poached from BBC and even in the middle East last January the Palestines wanted to burn their office in reaction to their biased reporting of events there.

Biased reporting? From what I learnt of that, there was nothing biased about the reporting. The People who tried to burn the office, from what we read were people who were not happy with the EXPOSURE by AlJazeera. Has nothing to do with BIASED reporting. The document was later confirmed to be true by the official who later resigned. Why are you now TWISTING this so you can claim/pretend to score one against AlJazeera, your former beloved??

Really sad what is going on in this world. US and their allies will stop at nothing to see Ghadaffi out of office so they can install their own stooge there and milk libya dry.

alldone:

i dont care about propaganda, he need to go now after 42yrs.

yes he has been there that long, nearly so was Fidel Castro and his people still loved him so. Also Eyadema, Dos Santos of Angola, Saleh of Yemen,  Al khalifa of Bahrain. the list goes on and on. At least these men have been able to achieve what our plethora of rulers have not in 50 years. The west should leave libya alone. Same was tried with Cuba but was mostly unsuccessful.

Well the topic is not really about aljazeera but if you are Mr. Current Affairs you definitely know that aljazeera has switched views this is not the same old aljazeera when it started. It is a shame even Associate Press (A.P) don't report false information as aljazeera does. Some of their videos looks staged and dubbed in a studio. Then again Ghaddafi invited the foreign press to come and check whats going on but they refused. He said he wants the intentional committee to come and see what is actually happening, I would advice him not to invite that committee he should learn from what happened in Iraq.

mekula:

Really sad what is going on in this world. US and their allies will stop at nothing to see Ghadaffi out of office so they can install their own stooge there and milk libya dry.
yes he has been there that long, nearly so was Fidel Castro and his people still loved him so. Also Eyadema, Dos Santos of Angola, Saleh of Yemen, Al khalifa of Bahrain. the list goes on and on. At least these men have been able to achieve what our plethora of rulers have not in 50 years. The west should leave libya alone. Same was tried with Cuba but was mostly unsuccessful.

very true mekula, the west are bloodsucking predators, if you refuse to fall under their control they come for you, they will not rest until they annex libya and take control over their oil exports.
The fact that Gadaffi has been in office for 42 years is neither here nor there, he has acheived so much for his people, the west never forgave him for kicking them out of Libya and taking control of the oil reserves there.

nigerian armed robber politicians who claim to practice democracy have handed our soveriegny to shell and collaborated in the complete economic destruction of the nation along with the US controlled IMF and world Bank what do we have to show for all these years of suffering and smiling?

which titl is correct.Libyan Military said or Russian Military.

sley4life:

which titl is correct.Libyan Military said or Russian Military.

russian military says libyan airstrikes did not take place

cap28:

russian military says libyan airstrikes did not take place

. . . . and I say the Russian Military is made up of a buncha lying fuxcks!

Yesterday the Libyan military said the bombs by its Air Force were dropped to "scare" protesters and not to kill or maim 'em!

http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/sky-news-saif-al-gaddafi-says-bombs-were-dropped-to-scare-protesters/

^^ The Libyan media/military/even p00rn industry is also controlled by the west. In case you dont know

dayokanu:

^^ The Libyan media/military/even p00rn industry is also controlled by the west. In case you dont know

Im glad someone is speaking now,Western media companies cannot be trusted, We should all remember they lied afghanistan had weapons of mass destruction, Where are they now? , They will try all they can to get Ghadaffi out of power coz they know if he wins the war , they are going to have to kiss his ass for Oil

Until America shown us the Nuclear weapons in Iraq that they claimed before attacking the country i don't think we should take them serious. America is only interested in the oil of Libya. Why have they shown a different side to The Somalia crises for the past 20yrs? Simple as No oil no interest. Bloody mofos

seanet02:

Until America shown us the Nuclear weapons in Iraq that they claimed before attacking the country i don't think we should take them serious. America is only interested in the oil of Libya. Why have they shown a different side to The Somalia crises for the past 20yrs? Simple as No oil no interest. Bloody mofos

Yes. When the US intervened in Somalia in the 90's, they probably went there to look for groundnut oil. They didn't find it, bloody mofos.

TCD:

Yes. When the US intervened in Somalia in the 90's, they probably went there to look for groundnut oil. They didn't find it, bloody mofos.

don't be deceived - somalia has oil reserves - the americans were promised oil concessions by former somalian dictator Siad Barre, the americans went in to somalia in order to secure the area and protect their investments, unfortunately it did not quite work out that way for them and they were defeated by somalian warlords and were forced out of the country, here is an excerpt from an article on why america were in somalia:

Far beneath the surface of the tragic drama of Somalia, four major U.S. oil companies are quietly sitting on a prospective fortune in exclusive concessions to explore and exploit tens of millions of acres of the Somali countryside.

That land, in the opinion of geologists and industry sources, could yield significant amounts of oil and natural gas if the U.S.-led military mission can restore peace to the impoverished East African nation.

According to documents obtained by The Times, nearly two-thirds of Somalia was allocated to the American oil giants Conoco, Amoco, Chevron and Phillips in the final years before Somalia's pro-U.S. President Mohamed Siad Barre was overthrown and the nation plunged into chaos in January, 1991. Industry sources said the companies holding the rights to the most promising concessions are hoping that the Bush Administration's decision to send U.S. troops to safeguard aid shipments to Somalia will also help protect their multimillion-dollar investments there.

Officially, the Administration and the State Department insist that the U.S. military mission in Somalia is strictly humanitarian. Oil industry spokesmen dismissed as "absurd" and "nonsense" allegations by aid experts, veteran East Africa analysts and several prominent Somalis that President Bush, a former Texas oilman, was moved to act in Somalia, at least in part, by the U.S. corporate oil stake.

http://www.raceandhistory.com/cgi-bin/forum/webbbs_config.pl/noframes/read/15

the americans were also very interested in controlling the sea lane known as the gulf of aden which sits just above the "horn" of africa lying to the north of somalia  - that sea route is of strategic importance to the americans as 11% of the world's crude oil passes through it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Aden

bk.babe97y:

. . . . and I say the Russian Military is made up of a buncha lying fuxcks!

Yesterday the Libyan military said the bombs by its Air Force were dropped to "scare" protesters and not to kill or maim 'em!

http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/03/sky-news-saif-al-gaddafi-says-bombs-were-dropped-to-scare-protesters/

that site libyafeb17.com is anti-ghaddafi if you look at the whois information it is registered to some bloke in uk and created 16th February 2011.

and the bombs were not dropped in the city. The news says cities where protesters were. The so called protesters went with 3 tanks to the oil export harbor to seize it.

dell_net:

that site libyafeb17.com is anti-ghaddafi if you look at the whois information it is registered to some bloke in uk and created 16th February 2011.

Are you suggesting that the sites from which many of the counter claims have come from are themselves not majorly BIASED against the west and the sort ROFLMAO!!!

Never knew the fall of Ghadaffi would force so many mental midgets to depart from reality. Quite comical. Ghadaffi is blaming the revolt on Islamists fanatics and al-Qaeda. Some retards on nairaland are blaming it on the West. Some super retards on nairaland are blaming it on Western media.

You couldn't make this crap up if you tried. It's like a bad comedy.

Mariory:

Never knew the fall of Ghadaffi would force so many mental midgets to depart from reality. Quite comical. Ghadaffi is blaming the revolt on Islamists fanatics and al-Qaeda. Some retards on nairaland are blaming it on the West. Some super retards on nairaland are blaming it on Western media.

You couldn't make this crap up if you tried. It's like a bad comedy.

I would be inclined to agree with you IF I had just undergone a full frontal lobotomy - but i havent, you see unlike you my brain is in full working order, as a result i am able to process information, analyse it and apply critical thinking, skills which are way beyond your reach.

Discussions like these become mentally and physically challenging for you, your "brain" which has been running way below the capacity of a fully functioning adult brain for so many years goes into panic mode because it simply can not cope with the depth and intellectual content of the information being fed to it.

International politics is not for everyone and you have shown from your limited ability to grasp basic political concepts that you fall into that category therefore run along and find something else to do with the vast amount of time you have on your hands - try mast.urbation it might just help to unclog the sludge that is lodged in between your ears which you have succeeded in convincing yourself is a brain.

cap28:

I would be inclined to agree with you IF I had just undergone a full frontal lobotomy - but i havent,  you see unlike you my brain is in full working order, as a result i am able to process information, analyse it and apply critical thinking, skills which are way beyond your reach.

Discussions like these become mentally and physically challenging for you, your "brain" which has been running way below the capacity of a fully functioning adult brain for so many years goes into panic mode because it simply can not cope with the depth and intellectual content of the information being fed to it.

International politics is not for everyone and you have shown from your limited ability to grasp basic political concepts that you fall into that category therefore run along and find something else to do with the vast amount of time you have on your hands - try mast.urbation it might just help to unclog the sludge that is lodged in between your ears which you have succeeded in convincing yourself is a brain.

Actually, you being lobotomised would make sense except for the fact that you would practically be a vegetable. No that's not it. Something else is wrong with your head. This is demonstrated by your ability to create and live in a make believe world much like that shown in movies.

The man you are trying so hard to defend here with made up stories does not even agree with your own fantasies. Hes' own made up stories about fanatical Islamists are way more realistic than that produced by your handicapped mind. And yet he is the one recruiting foreigners to come kill his own people. The people he claims to loves so much. But, don't let that get in the way of your movie.

This is a joke - even the Libyans have not denied making the airstrikes - they've simply said those airstrikes were made against military targets or to scare the 'rebels'.

What about the strikes that we have seen aircraft making ON TV with our own two eyes? Did the Russians deny those ones also taking place?

There's nothing worse than having a preconceived notion and being completely BLIND to the evidence available from a multitude of sources.

debosky:

This is a joke - even the Libyans have not denied making the airstrikes - they've simply said those airstrikes were made against military targets or to scare the 'rebels'.

What about the strikes that we have seen aircraft making ON TV with our own two eyes? Did the Russians deny those ones also taking place?

There's nothing worse than having a preconceived notion and being completely BLIND to the evidence available from a multitude of sources.

Not according to cap28, nairalands' movie superstar.

Mariory:

Actually, you being lobotomised would make sense except for the fact that you would practically be a vegetable. No that's not it. Something else is wrong with your head. This is demonstrated by your ability to create and live in a make believe world much like that shown in movies.

The man you are trying so hard to defend here with made up stories does not even agree with your own fantasies. Hes' own made up stories about fanatical Islamists are way more realistic than that produced by your handicapped mind. And yet he is the one recruiting foreigners to come kill his own people. The people he claims to loves so much. But, don't let that get in the way of your movie.

kindly set out for me the evidence that you have relied on - please, i would really like to see SUBSTANTIATED EVIDENCE PROVING that Gadaffi strafed his own people.

debosky:

This is a joke - even the Libyans have not denied making the airstrikes - they've simply said those airstrikes were made against military targets or to scare the 'rebels'.

What about the strikes that we have seen aircraft making ON TV with our own two eyes? Did the Russians deny those ones also taking place?

There's nothing worse than having a preconceived notion and being completely BLIND to the evidence available from a multitude of sources.

were those airstrikes launched by Gadaffi made on UNARMED CIVILLIAN PROTESTERS or ARMED REBELS seeking to overthrow a legitimate govt?

mariory still waiting for you to furnish me with evidence based on substantiated facts - given the certainty of your stance this shouldnt be too hard for you to do, should it?

cap28:

were those airstrikes launched by Gadaffi made on UNARMED CIVILLIAN PROTESTERS or ARMED REBELS seeking to overthrow a legitimate govt?

From 'no airstrikes' taking place to being against 'armed' rebels?

Just what did the Russians claim did/didn't happen?

Just what is 'legitimate' about a government run by a despot that overthrew a monarchy?

debosky:

From 'no airstrikes' taking place to being against 'armed' rebels?

Just what did the Russians claim did/didn't happen?

Just what is 'legitimate' about a government run by a despot that overthrew a monarchy? 

O the response should be interesting.

And also what a question!

debosky:

From 'no airstrikes' taking place to being against 'armed' rebels?

Just what did the Russians claim did/didn't happen?

Just what is 'legitimate' about a government run by a despot that overthrew a monarchy?

not so fast "einstein", the first alleged airstrikes were said to have been made by Gaddaffi's airforce against UNARMED PROTESTERS  - an allegation which has since been REFUTED BY RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE WHO WERE MONITORING ALL AIR ACTIVITY OVER LIBYA FROM SPACE - watch the clip of the video link from russia tv that i attached.

Now since THAT ALLEGED ATTACK there have been air strikes by Gadaffi's airforce which have been launched against ARMED REBELS who are seeking to overthrow a legitimate govt

Now let me ask you this - if a group of armed rebels mounted an armed insurrection on police stations and military installations in the US or the UK - what do you think the respective govts of those countries would do? woudl they

sit back and allow the armed rebels to take over a legitimate govt or

defend and try to overpower this attempt to overthrow a legitimate govt?

can you explain to me why you feel that an unelected monarch installed by a former colonial power (britain) has more legitimacy to rule over the people of Libya than a revolutionary leader who succeeded in liberating hiis people from colonial oppression and poverty?

Are you aware that Libya has the lowest infant mortality rate in Africa and the highest life expectancy rate? 
Are you aware that earlier this year  in response to the world's rising food prices around the world, Gadaffi abolished ALL taxes on food in order to make food more affordable for his people?

Finally are you aware that Libya has the highest gross domestic product (GDP) per capita in the whole of africa?

Wealth in Libya is distributed equally - all of this was acheived under the supposed despot Muammar Gaddaffi, therefore im at a loss as to why you think he should be kicked out.

Mariory:

O the response should be interesting.

And also what a question!

still awaiting your substantiated evidence regarding airstrikes by gadaffi on unarmed protesters.

cap28:

not so fast "einstein", the first alleged airstrikes were said to have been made by Gaddaffi's airforce against UNARMED PROTESTERS  - an allegation which has since been REFUTED BY RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE WHO WERE MONITORING ALL AIR ACTIVITY OVER LIBYA FROM SPACE - watch the clip of the video link from russia tv that i attached.

Unless Russians can clearly identify armed protesters (i.e see ak 47s and the like) from space, you CANNOT claim any satellite monitoring can clearly distinguish protesters from those who are armed.

Now since THAT ALLEGED ATTACK there have been air strikes by Gadaffi's airforce which have been launched against ARMED REBELS who are seeking to overthrow a legitimate govt

There is no legitimacy in the Ghaddafi government - if he wanted to be legitimate, he has had over 40 years to organise elections and get a mandate from his people.

Now let me ask you this - if a group of armed rebels mounted an armed insurrection on police stations and military installations in the US or the UK - what do you think the respective govts of those countries would do? woudl they

sit back and allow the armed rebels to take over a legitimate govt or

defend and try to overpower this attempt to overthrow a legitimate govt?

The government has zero legitimacy - it rules by force and terror and has no mandate from Libyans.

can you explain to me why you feel that an unelected monarch installed by a former colonial power (britain) has more legitimacy to rule over the people of Libya than a revolutionary leader who succeeded in liberating hiis people from colonial oppression and poverty?

What poverty has he liberated them from? Are they richer than Gulf states that make similar incomes with smaller populations?

Are you aware that Libya has the lowest infant mortality rate in Africa and the highest life expectancy rate? 
Are you aware that earlier this year  in response to the world's rising food prices around the world, Gadaffi abolished ALL taxes on food in order to make food more affordable for his people?

Finally are you aware that Libya has the highest gross domestic product (GDP) per capita in the whole of africa?

Wealth in Libya is distributed equally - all of this was acheived under the supposed despot Muammar Gaddaffi, therefore im at a loss as to why you think he should be kicked out.

Libya has a population of about 6m - with the oil exports of over 1.5million barrels a day, they should be as rich as the UAE that has a similar population and oil production level - you are comparing Libya to the wrong countries.

Libya should be far ahead of where it is today and has been held back primarily by Ghaddafi, who uses the resources to sponsor terrorism everywhere, from Northern Ireland, to Chad, to Lockerbie.

What you have is a country that should be one of the richest in the World being happy they are the best in Africa? That is a joke.

debosky:

Unless Russians can clearly identify armed protesters (i.e see ak 47s and the like) from space, you CANNOT claim any satellite monitoring can clearly distinguish protesters from those who are armed.

so what about the fact that the russian satellite systems confirmed that there was  no record of any air activity over libya whatsoever during the period that the alleged attacks by gadaffi were supposed to have taken place?

There is no legitimacy in the Ghaddafi government - if he wanted to be legitimate, he has had over 40 years to organise elections and get a mandate from his people.

well in that case i hope you are also advocating the toppling of the Saudi Royal family who have been in power since 1932

The government has zero legitimacy - it rules by force and terror and has no mandate from Libyans.

i can name several govts around the world that rule in a similar fashion why arent you calling for those govts to be toppled - nigeria happens to be one of such govts you know.

What poverty has he liberated them from? Are they richer than Gulf states that make similar incomes with smaller populations?

Why do you expect them to be richer than gulf states that according to you make similar income with smaller populations, surely if these gulf states are making almost the same amout of revenue as Libya but have smaller population, of course the per capita income in those countries will be greater than in Libya.

One thing i do know though is that Libya is the 12th largest oil exporter - and unlike other african oil producing countries Libya uses its oil revenues for the benefit of the Libyan people.

Libya has a population of about 6m - with the oil exports of over 1.5million barrels a day, they should be as rich as the UAE that has a similar population and oil production level - you are comparing Libya to the wrong countries.

Libya should be far ahead of where it is today and has been held back primarily by Ghaddafi, who uses the resources to sponsor terrorism everywhere, from Northern Ireland, to Chad, to Lockerbie.

What you have is a country that should be one of the richest in the World being happy they are the best in Africa? That is a joke.

No libya has been held back because it was subjected to almost 10 years of economic sanctions imposed on it by america and britain, despite this it was able to make a quick recovery and begin the rebuilding of its economy.

nigeria is an oil producing country which can not even boast of being the best in africa, let alone in the world and this is despite its huge oil revenues.  Therefore the fact that Libya has been able to provide the basics for its people is something that we should recognise and commend Gadaffi for, our own leaders have failed woefully in this regard.