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Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by IDENNAA(m): 2:46am On Oct 28, 2020 |
Etinosa1234: Dont shift grounds. Did he mentioned how the Igbo was dominating them in the north or not ? I have the video where the British journalist interviewed him ? Did the Erediuwa not mention Igbo dominating Bini in his book ? You guys are all weak but this time na Ijaw go treat your Bleep up 1 Like |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by Etinosa1234: 2:46am On Oct 28, 2020 |
IDENNAA: Mumu If u don’t know, do ur research France supported Biafra. They even used Gabon as a base to sell weapons to u guys How would u know when u rely on moonlight tales to form opinion on real life issues 1 Like |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by Etinosa1234: 2:49am On Oct 28, 2020 |
IDENNAA: The usual lies that u can’t prove Can u show me where he said it 2 Likes |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by IDENNAA(m): 2:50am On Oct 28, 2020 |
Etinosa1234: Erediuwa , Sarduana or Akiolu ? |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by Etinosa1234: 2:51am On Oct 28, 2020 |
IDENNAA: Erediuwa Did the Erediuwa not mention Igbo dominating Bini in his book ? 1 Like |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by Etinosa1234: 2:59am On Oct 28, 2020 |
Idennaa U don’t think abt us but u are quick to jump on a thread of our culture It’s like u don’t even understand what u are saying It’s like u are just saying it to make it seem that u are smart 1 Like
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Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by IDENNAA(m): 3:04am On Oct 28, 2020 |
Etinosa1234: Wait for it. Don't be impatient. Also, I comment on any thread I feel like I can add something to. |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by Etinosa1234: 3:05am On Oct 28, 2020 |
IDENNAA: But u don't think of us... So why comment on a tribe u feel bigger than... U even went as far as insulting our belief in our oba Same tribe that u claim not to think abt Is there something u are not telling us 1 Like
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Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by Etinosa1234: 3:09am On Oct 28, 2020 |
Me waiting for idennaa to prove his case b4 me 1 Like
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Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by ekene101: 7:13am On Oct 28, 2020 |
IkpuMmadu:And who told you it belongs to the ijaws? what happened when they tried to install a pere and who is the governor they pay allegiance to? is gelegele part of Edo state or an autonomous community? is that local government still part of the 18 local government areas of Edo state or am I missing something? Whether ijaw or not,so long the land is in Edo state and under the Edo state government and oba of Benin jurisdiction,the oba will never harm anyone under his protection. Do you think oba of Benin is like your Instagram and instablog/Linda ikeji oba that appears on social media daily for wrong reason with customize shoes and night club induced mentality. Oba of Benin never took sides with any politician or instigate his citizens to vote for any political party,rather he sued for a peaceful free and fair election. Try enter oba palace gate without invitation or any festival going on there and see if you go know road come outside not to talk of say na loot you won go loot something. 3 Likes |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by IkpuMmadu: 7:48am On Oct 28, 2020 |
ekene101: oga you are mixing politics with culture.. the Gelegele is under Edo State not under Benin.. that is the fact and ijaws are more populous than Benin and can be found in about 4 states .. so Gelegele is gone for good there is nothing you can do about it and they (ijaw) have made their position clear if you get Gelegele oya go and install ovie or any Benin chief there ! |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by ekene101: 8:18am On Oct 28, 2020 |
IkpuMmadu:ozaooo(young man) is there a pere there,yes or no? if there isn't then it's still under the oba of Benin's jurisdiction. I am not mixing anything,I just state some facts that makes some Kings loose respect and becomes powerless before the people.reason they say "you don't have anything to fear about a person that talks too much"/"if a masquerade dances too much for long in the arena,he looses it's importance and it's dance steps becomes obsolete". 1 Like |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by IkpuMmadu: 8:33am On Oct 28, 2020 |
ekene101:BRIEF HISTORY OF GELEGELE-GBENE AN IJAW COMMUNITY Gelegele (Gelegele Gbene) is one of the most ancient historical Ijaw communities of Ovia North East Local Government Area of Edo state, about 45 km South West of Benin City, South-South Nigeria. It's stemmed position in the Benin nation, Edo state, Nigeria and black race cannot be over emphasized. Gelegele community is a reference town or community that cut across many sphere in the Economic, Political, Historical and Social Cultural existence of all institutions and Nations concerned. Some of the Bini communities near and around Gelegele are UGHOTON, IKPAKO, EGBETAN, ODUNA and UGBINE etc. And these communities have one thing or issues at one time or the other both for good and bad. The town is accessible by Land, Air and Sea. TRADITIONAL TITLES The Gelegele Community like every other Communities are assisted by the AMA-OKUSU-GBOLUWEI, AMA-NANAWEI, AMA-DIWEI, IKASI-TEBEWEI, OGUN-BOLOWEI, TORU-DIWEI, ERU-KARIWEI, ONANA-GBALEWEI, DUNU-KONWEI, OSIN-KARIWEI and many other traditional titles. Gelegele owes traditional title of WURU-TOWAWEI OF Olodiama Clan at the Egbesu Ground. However, evidence and event have shown that the only overlord, influence/control wielded over the Gelegele people is an Ijaw influence under the traditional ruler/overlord of the Olodiama Clan. The ruler is the PERE OF OLODIAMA CLAN. This was the overlord that the Gelegele people usually paid and pays tribute to. This paying of tribute to the Pere of Olodiama by all the Ijaw communities in the clan was backed by the " Pere of Olodiama Mid Western Gazatte No. 56 Vol.10, dated 10th october, 1973, NSLN 62 OF 1973, the Constitution {suspension and modification Decree} 1966 Iyeku-Uselu District council {Appointment of chieftancy Committee} order 1973" gave legal backing to the Pere of Olodiama clan with its seat at Ikoro, one of the Ijaw Community in Olodiama Clan. Gelegele Elders Council. SOME PAST AMA-OKOSUWEIS' OF GELEGELE: 1. Alaowei Kiade Nawei 2. Pa. Donyegha Perejei 3. Chief Kororo Obara 4. Alaowei Ikinbor Duweye 5. Pa Iyefabiri Bisin 6. Alaowei Timothy Olekeji Ofunama 7. Alaowei Ajari Jimmy {Zimi} 8. Pa Moses Iteyi Pawuru 9. High Chief Simon Potoki Apohi 10. Alaowei Wilson Gbaiye kororo SOME PAST EXECUTIVE CHAIRMEN: 1. Pa Moses Pawuru 2. High Chief S.P Apohi 3. Chief Ezekiel Donyegha 4. Mr. Christopher Milton 5. Prince Barbs P. Pawuru 6. Capt. Francis Soroghaye 7. Capt. Ezekiel Ikinbor 8. Pastor Ruben Milton 9. Engr. Samuel Donyegha 10. Rev. Dr. Godwyns Soroaye 11. Elder Samson Ofunama 12. Mr. Edwin Ikinbor CULTURAL/FESTIVAL The Dinokon/Ugbosukoromor festivals, an annual fishing festival, other festival includes; Temeweigbolei, Amamieye, Bini-Ere and Posigboloi festival. Also the traditional dance of the Gelegele people is the same with other Ijaw areas called '"Aboo, Igime, Owusei, Oweigiri, "Ogele e.t.c". The Gelegele people speak the Izon language of the Olodiama Clan in Edo State that is similar in all ways to the Olodiama Clan in both Delta and Bayelsa State, their dressing and cultural belief bears No Similarity with that of the Ughoton {Binis} or any other people and their festival includes; The Amagbolei festival, an annual end of year party, Ugbosu{Palm Date}, Igbada {the oracle of Ijaw people} By way digression into the benin history as to further buttress the ownership of benin and existence of Ijaw of Edo state, the late Dr. Jacob U. Egharevba, an eminent traditional who himself is a benin in his book titled "A short History of benin Third Print :, 1968 page 1, submits firmly as follows: "Many, many years ago, the binis came all the way from Egypt to found a secure shelter in this part of the world after a short stay in the sudan and at Ile-Ife,which the benin people called Uhe....... Tradition says they met some people who were in the land before their arrival". The Ijaw people of Edo state were the original inhabited of benin city. According to the E.A. Kenyo in his book "the origin and the title of Yoruba Rulers" page 3. He wrote about: " The New people" the Bini thus" up till this time of Oba of {Benin} and his people were pure Yoruba and did not understand the language of the Aborigines who usually salute themselves and the new and the new people thus: "A Doo" "Dolo O" and wherever the Oba's people saw the Aborigines they used to call them "Ados" from were the name Edo was taken. The Adoo is an Ijaw prayer greeting from the root "UNDO" meaning"may you live long". According to prof. Allan Rider in his book "Bini and Europeans" 1485-1897, published 1967, page 27. Which ever of the "Slave River" the portuguese frequented, the people they first met would have belonged to the Ijohs {Ijaws} which dominated the coastal belt swamp forest, extending inland to a depth of 30 to 40 mile in this region. He went further to state in page 28 thus... "The Bini Edo lived now as they seem then, outside swamp forest area... and there are no reason for believing that it ever extended to the coast. Nor are the Edos of Bini ever river faerer or cannoe men... The existence of Gelegele-gbene Community predates the existence of any other tribe and any other neighbouring Community as a clearly evident in the statement on page 7 paragraph 5, and page 8 paragraph 9. Chapter 2 of the "Report of the commission appointed to enquire into the fear of miniorities and means of allaying them, submitted to RT. HON. ALLAN BOYD, M.P Secretary of state for colonies by SIR HENRY WILINKS Chairman Gordon HADOW PHILIP MASON and J.B SHAERER, on 30th july, 1958 in London. For purpose of clarity and ease of reference we shall like to quote: ".....In addition to the Edo-speaking group there are within the two province considerable Non-Edo Elements, notably the big Ibo population in the two eastern divisions of Asaba and Aboh and 70,000 Ijaws most of whom live in the western Ijaw Division." "They {Ijaws} are said to be a people who live in the area now called Nigeria longer than any other of the larger tribes and were probably pushed down into the Delta area in times of which no record has survived. The country in which they live is divided by creeks, and inlets of sea and of the Niger into many small islands, which nowhere rise far above the highest tides and floods. Their transport is by water and the construction of roads or railways would be prohibitively expensive. Theirs is a country which, through no fault of man, has been neglected and which is unlikely ever to be highly developed; they are distinct in their language and customs from the Edo speakers or Yorubas. Benin claimed over lordship them at one time but they show no desire to return to it." Gelegele-gbene Community has been an international trade center even before the colonial era. Gelegele-Gbene Community has traded in slaves, cowries, leather, and shells of sea animals with the Portuguese and British traders before the advert of colonial rule in Nigeria. Gelegele-gbene Community has been an international Sea Port serving as an hinterland port to the Colonial people who had their base in Forcados. However, the traditional occupation as Ijaw people are: Fishing, Farming, Palm Wine Tapping, Timber logging and Craft Making e.t.c It is on record that Late Oba Akenzuwa II of blessed memory sent the present Oba in 1953 to Ikoro to Represent him in the installation of the Pere of Olodiama {the traditional head of the Ijaws}. And it is sad and painful to note that since the present Oba of bini came to the throne he has not allowed Gelegele people and any other Ijaw speaking tribe/people to have peace. REASON FOR THE CLAMOUR AND ATTEMPT TO PARTITION GELEGELE COMMUNITY. Engr. Donyegha and Late D.S.P Alamenseya {Governor General} The Benin Monarch has often time plan to assimilate Gelegele between, an Odionwere, and Okao and the Benin Monarch, hence the incessant clamourage. Scheming; manipulations, telling stranger/made up stories, royalty arranged, untrue mythological events bereaved of historical facts, court cases, letters {one of them plight of Okao Gelegele} to lay claim to the Gelegele people and community, so as to share the spoil or the cake/moi-moi that accrues to community due to the attention being accorded by the Federal Government and the international community as an oil producing community in Edo state and the proposed establishment of a seaport and a new sattalite town in Gelegele Community. It is on this note we the Reformed Ijaw Agitators is passing a strong warning to the Edo state government and it's Oba to know that the Ijaws has never be conquered and will not be conquered by any for that matter. The Edo state government and Oba should not forget to be humble. https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=467291417180722&id=467268840516313 |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by Edeyoung: 9:23am On Oct 28, 2020 |
IkpuMmadu: Nah it invaded benin |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by Edeyoung: 9:28am On Oct 28, 2020 |
IDENNAA: We are in time of Southern unity there will be no need to prolong this, 1 Like |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by Edeyoung: 9:30am On Oct 28, 2020 |
IDENNAA: Hmm |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by Edeyoung: 9:35am On Oct 28, 2020 |
IkpuMmadu: The ijaw have mellow down and have been humbled, i dont know why you keep circulating this, if not that our constitution support freedom of migration, we for don purchue dem go Bayelsa But why are the igbos invading this thread na 1 Like |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by Edeyoung: 9:45am On Oct 28, 2020 |
IkpuMmadu: Lol, we also didnt force igbanke to have enogie same goes to ijaw even if we want to we wont do it openly, since we are not in the time of military or monarchy but democracy, not because we are afraid of them, So get sense, edo is a bless state just like Isreal 1 Like |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by RedboneSmith(m): 10:07am On Oct 28, 2020 |
Edeyoung: I hope you know an Igbanke chief who went by the Ika title of Orike-Eze was embarrassed over his use of a non-Benin title at the Palace of the Oba when he went to pay homage. You cannot rule out the element of compulsion in the use of the title of Enogie by Igbanke traditional rulers. In fact, many of them use Eze or Obi and only use Enogie in their interactions with Benin. 1 Like |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by Edeyoung: 11:08am On Oct 28, 2020 |
RedboneSmith: If he is not using enogie, he should not visit the palace that is a disrespect to the Benin stool , we don’t have any issues with them now,they can keep their madness, If you’re living in Benin you must use the enogies title outside Benin city you can have your title, and visit the palace and they give you your full respect ,just like the kings in the various part of edo, even if you're not having the enogie title , wen they visit the palace they are respected because we understand they are not ruling in Benin city, geographical sphere and Dey are limit to their welcome in the palace unlike an enogie in Benin This tradition have been ancient and not new so i would if he respect our tradition or keep is space If you are in Benin you must have the edo title for duke enogie, or you can stay out of the palace and keep your title till Biafra comes You Igbo are really getting on people’s nerves with this your Biafra issues and causing more damage to yourself than good I support Biafra but una Dey use am Dey disturb Everybody even port harcourt his hating on you guys now Make una chill |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by RedboneSmith(m): 11:56am On Oct 28, 2020 |
Edeyoung: I'm still trying to come up with a name for this special kind of madness that causes you people to rant about Biafra to me when I am not even talking about or supporting Biafra! Like, what the hell is wrong with all of you?! 2 Likes |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by RedboneSmith(m): 11:58am On Oct 28, 2020 |
You said nobody forces Igbanke people to use Enogie. I respond and say that this is not entirely true. Next thing you are ranting about Biafra. What shall we call this nonsense now? 2 Likes |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by Edeyoung: 12:43pm On Oct 28, 2020 |
RedboneSmith: You guys are not seeing it, bro only strangers can, d biafra thing is always lingerie on you guys, and your comments If not you guys wont be packing here and insulting our oba, like idenna guy is doing |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by Edeyoung: 1:00pm On Oct 28, 2020 |
RedboneSmith: The bolded breeds respect and not pride |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by RedboneSmith(m): 3:50pm On Oct 28, 2020 |
Edeyoung: If you know the person that insulted your oba, carry your anger/rant and go and meet him. I did not insult your oba. And don't bring Biafra to my comments again. I'm not a Biafran. Learn to stay on topic. 1 Like |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by Edeyoung: 3:54pm On Oct 28, 2020 |
RedboneSmith: Ok sir, |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by rhektor(m): 4:13pm On Oct 28, 2020 |
MickzyDonald: But why Abk nao? Don't spoil my Abk o |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by rhektor(m): 4:16pm On Oct 28, 2020 |
ekene101: After placing the curse the trafficker stopped right? |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by Etinosa1234: 4:16pm On Oct 28, 2020 |
When u see someone posting Facebook(where pple fabricate lies) as his source concerning history or origin of a place.. just know that person is a born liar
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Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by Etinosa1234: 4:17pm On Oct 28, 2020 |
rhektor: At least we don't hear much abt them unlike b4 that it was prevalent |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by ekene101: 4:25pm On Oct 28, 2020 |
rhektor:when last did you hear about anybody crossing Mediterranean Sea or any video of girls lamenting about paying huge debts to madam that brought them into Europe? Many Madam's forfeited the money girls were to pay them when traffickers started dying mysteriously,which usually starts with vomiting of blood all of a sudden. bro I put it to you that nobody will help you traffick any lady through the airport not to talk of land in Edo state. 1 Like |
Re: Can The Oba Of Benin Palace Be Invaded By Hoodlums by MickzyDonald: 4:41pm On Oct 28, 2020 |
rhektor:My gee, which side |
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