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Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by chewwie(m): 11:00am On Nov 11, 2020
Jeromejnr:
If only the electoral system was under one umbrella. But each state having their own different laws, codes and processes makes it very complex.

I was watching the news and a particular host had to ask another to explain to him how it works in some states.

But its for the best. The people who built America had a very high IQ.

That's how a true Federal system of government works.
Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by chewwie(m): 11:02am On Nov 11, 2020
IamPatriotic:
The Electoral College is not human, but numbers. How could 55 people vote for only one candidate, does it mean not none of them could have voted for the other person in the popular votes? Electoral College is no longer fashionable, the US should accept this fact and repeal it.
Ekpa! The Electoral College is made up of 538 electors. If 270 of those electors vote for a particular candidate, he becomes president even in 200 million Americans vote for a different candidate.
Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by chewwie(m): 11:04am On Nov 11, 2020
RedScorpion:

He would loose even in the Supreme Court
All his claims are baseless without evidence
You'd think that if you spend all day watching CNN
Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by chewwie(m): 11:05am On Nov 11, 2020
pansophist:
In a nutshell, the USA is not democratic afterall.
No, they were never designed to be democratic, they're a Constitutional Republic.
Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by chewwie(m): 11:06am On Nov 11, 2020
greatseed:
This time Biden won the electoral college & popular votes. That is a landslide!!! cheesy
Who told you Biden won the Electoral College when it hasn't even been held? The Electors will vote on the 14th of December, and in most States, the Legislature picks the electors and guess what, the Republicans control the legislature in NC, MI, PA, WI, GA, AZ and many other swing states. Keep watching.
Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by chewwie(m): 11:09am On Nov 11, 2020
oluwaseyi0:

It's is the most democratic, big populated states get more electoral votes than smaller ones but still make the smaller states to matter in the schemes of things, smaller colonies/state won't feel they are not part, hence want to separate like biafra
It is not democratic because the USA was never designed to be a democracy. An electoral college vote in Vermont or Wyoming is 3 times more valuable than a vote in California. That was by design.
Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by chewwie(m): 11:14am On Nov 11, 2020
dejonathan:
If na 269 each nko?
Then it'll go the the House of Representatives where each state will have one Rep vote for one candidate. A 26-state majority is needed to win.
Then the Senate would vote for the VP candidate, 51 majority votes is needed to win.
Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by chewwie(m): 11:15am On Nov 11, 2020
rolams:


Funny! I mean very funny!! It was not fraud when Hillary Clinton was defeated through the same system in 2016 right? Don't be deceived. Trump case was dismissed in Michigan over false claim and inability to proof his case. The same will happen to all the remaining cases.
For every example of fraud against Clinton you provide, I'll show you 2 evidences of fraud against Trump.
Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by chewwie(m): 11:21am On Nov 11, 2020
Latidoh1:
Biden won on the two sides.
Stop saying what you don't know. No president has been elected in the USA. The Electoral College vote will take place on the "Monday after the second Wednesday in December".
The votes will be counted on Jan 3rd, announced on the 13th.
Sorry
Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by chewwie(m): 11:25am On Nov 11, 2020
Macpro:
op, since California has 55 electoral votes, why is she not considered a swing state?
California used to be a swing state back in the 60s & 70s, but lost that status when she turned blue.
Swing state status has nothing to do with the number of electoral votes a state has, it has to do with her voting pattern. Ohio, PA, WI, MI, FL are swing states because they can go to a Republican this year & go to a Democrat 4 years from now. California, New York, Alabama, Texas, New Jersey, etc. are not swing states because they've been voting one way for more than 40 years.
Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by rolams(m): 11:28am On Nov 11, 2020
chewwie:

For every example of fraud against Clinton you provide, I'll show you 2 evidences of fraud against Trump.


Hahaha! Funny you!! Do you know Trump has lost a whopping 7 cases as regards this 2020 election due lack of evidence. All his claims are baseless.
Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by chewwie(m): 11:29am On Nov 11, 2020
Ifesinachi22:
Blatant lies. There's no particular group of people called the Electors. Once a candidate wins a state. He wins all the Electoral College votes allocated to it. I used to think in this your direction till this year's election. I thought each state will deligate electors to the Electoral college. Its all lies. Once a presidential candidate wins a state, he wins the whole electoral college allocated to thT state, except Maine and Nebraska. What the electoral college will do after the elections is the same thing INEC does, which is to affirm the results computed. Now that Joe Biden has won and has given his vote of thanks without your imaginary Electors of Electoral College like you said, what then will happen if the electors sit like you said and vote against Biden and elect Trump instead?

There's no electors deligates to elect a president. They will only affirm the results we already know.

I used to think like you before now.
Do you even bother to read? Ever heard of a faithless elector? How did Bernie Sanders get one Electoral vote in 2016 when he wasn't even on the ballot? Most electors pledge to vote with the state's popular votes.
If state legislatures in PA, NC, MI, AZ controlled by the GOP select electors who pledge to vote for Trump in the Electoral College on Dec 14th, there's nothing anybody can do about it.
Why do you think Democrats hate the Electoral College?
Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by chewwie(m): 11:32am On Nov 11, 2020
ThatFairGuy:
They should change the gofdam electoral college to Highest vote casted.

It would have saved America from this disgrace (Trump)

Some democrats, including former Democratic presidential nominees Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren, are calling for an overhaul of the system. They want to get rid of the electoral college system completely, and replace it with the popular vote, so whoever gets the most votes wins the Presidency.
However, this would mean changing the US constitution. This would require both the house and the Senate to give a two-thirds majority, as well as 38 out of 50 state assemblies to agree to it – something many experts believe is almost impossible.
1. Warren and Sanders have never been presidential nominees, where did you get that from?
2. Doing away with the Electoral College will lead to the dissolution of the Union that is the United States of America. Many states only joined the Union because of the Electoral College.
Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by IamPatriotic(m): 11:34am On Nov 11, 2020
chewwie:

Ekpa! The Electoral College is made up of 538 electors. If 270 of those electors vote for a particular candidate, he becomes president even in 200 million Americans vote for a different candidate.

Ẹranko! I knew this since the year 2000, if you have issues with comprehension, blame it on your father who failed to give you proper education.
Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by chewwie(m): 11:39am On Nov 11, 2020
femi4:


Imagine a natural disaster/war reducing the population or causing emigration in one of the key States, such state will still hold on to her massive electoral votes
Maybe, but it won't be so for long because Electoral votes are awarded based on the number of congressional house districts a state has + 2 senatorial seats and House seats are carved out in proportion to the population.
That's why California wants the Census Commission to count illegal immigrants so that they'll get more seats in Congress & more Electoral votes
Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by ThatFairGuy: 11:40am On Nov 11, 2020
chewwie:

1. Warren and Sanders have never been presidential nominees, where did you get that from?
2. Doing away with the Electoral College will lead to the dissolution of the Union that is the United States of America. Many states only joined the Union because of the Electoral College.
It's an excerpt from the post I quoted.
Maybe
Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by chewwie(m): 11:42am On Nov 11, 2020
Nuel4:
they are human beings called Electors. The party that win a state select the electors. For example in California, democrats will choose 55 people to vote for Biden on the 14th of December while Republicans will select 38 electors to vote for Trump in Texas. One of those electors can decide to vote against their party, although it is rare but it happened in 2016 if that happened, he would be called a "faithless elector"
Without electoral college, California, New York and Texas will 100% choose every single president in USA.
If we had electoral college here in Nigeria, the North wouldn't have been able to hold us hostage
Some people will still insult you & call you a liar after this well written piece.
Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by chewwie(m): 11:50am On Nov 11, 2020
IamPatriotic:


Ẹranko! I knew this since the year 2000, if you have issues with comprehension, blame it on your father who failed to give you proper education.
Says the intellectual who said the Electoral College Electors are not humans
Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by ayusco85(m): 4:29pm On Nov 11, 2020
Asukuebira1:
I still prefer our own way of determining when a state is won or lost, which is having 1/4 of total vote casted in a state AND winning 2/3 of the Nigerian states. This is better and clearer than the so called Electoral College Vote.

Yeah but it's proned to rigging. However the college electoral system is outdated and it has outlived it's purpose.
Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by RedScorpion(f): 5:54pm On Nov 11, 2020
chewwie:

You'd think that if you spend all day watching CNN

And what is Fox News saying
Re: US Election 2020: The Electoral College System Explained by Ifesinachi22(m): 7:07pm On Nov 11, 2020
chewwie:

Do you even bother to read? Ever heard of a faithless elector? How did Bernie Sanders get one Electoral vote in 2016 when he wasn't even on the ballot? Most electors pledge to vote with the state's popular votes.
If state legislatures in PA, NC, MI, AZ controlled by the GOP select electors who pledge to vote for Trump in the Electoral College on Dec 14th, there's nothing anybody can do about it.
Why do you think Democrats hate the Electoral College?


Unlike in most elections, the person who becomes president is not necessarily the candidate who wins the most votes on Election Day. Instead, the election of the president of the United States is a two-step process.

First, voters cast ballots on Election Day in each state. In nearly every state, the candidate who gets the most votes wins the "electoral votes" for that state, and gets that number of voters (or "electors"wink in the "Electoral College."

Second, the "electors" from each of the 50 states gather in December and they vote for president. The person who receives a majority of votes from the "Electoral College" becomes President.

How exactly does this work? Under the "Electoral College" system, each state is assigned a certain number of "votes". There are a total of 538 electoral votes, and the number of votes each state receives is proportional to its size --- the bigger the state's population the more "votes" it gets. The formula for determining the number of votes for each state is simple: each state gets two votes for its two US Senators, and then one more additional vote for each member it has in the House of Representatives. For California, this means we get 55 votes (2 senators and 53 members of the House of Representatives) --- the most of any state.

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