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Re: Christianity And LGBT by MuttleyLaff: 7:39am On Nov 18
Image123:
You speak a lot of words for such a simple question. Can you provide clarity instead of irony and misunderstanding?
All of us are prostitutes, there are all kinds of prostitutes, prostitutes are in Jesus genealogy, prostitution is not a fruit of the Spirit etc. These are not clear or straightforward answers to the question. You my good friend are dancing reggae here.
Image123, looks like you it's you who danced reggae around where I typed answering your question with:

"... there are all kinds of prostitutes, lmso, political prostitutes, careerist prostitutes et cetera. Now, here is the point, lmso, at any time, any person, who willingly uses his/her talent, any part of his/her body, uses gained opportunity or uses his/her ability, amorous ability or not, in a base and unworthy way, usually for money, fame, fortune, position, leverage is a prostitute.

If prostitutes and/or pretend prostitute(s), are in the genealogy of Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, then I have no qualms with considering such kind of prostitutes being OK. Have you thought about prophet Hosea, lmso, hmm?
"

I never typed or suggested anything of "prostitution is not a fruit of the Spirit etc" that is you again, dishonestly and/or unfairly saying what I never said.

What I correctly typed was: "People sleeping around with different people are not displaying the fruit of the Spirit, which as evident in Galatians 5:22-23 is:
love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, humility, endurance, gentleness and self-control.
"

Two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them do not do sleeping around with different people. They faithful, committed and loyal to each other.
Re: Christianity And LGBT by LordReed(m): 7:42am On Nov 18
Image123:


You claim it is natural and harmless, one says physically harmless. grin grin So i simply show you how very much greater the percentage and statistics difference is. All men face health issues and risks, but the difference is very clear and stated for the homos.

What is clear is that disease does not discriminate between hetero or homo and that the increased rates in the homosexual community continues to be because of risky behaviour which is also found in heterosexual community. So if disease is the harm you are calling out homosexuals for then you just axed the heterosexual community as well.

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Re: Christianity And LGBT by LordReed(m): 8:11am On Nov 18
Image123:


What you need to get through to darkened mind is that homosexuality is a disease as natural as any sin that can be cured. All humans are born in sin and that is clearly taught in the Bible. The argument has been clear, we don't behave simply because animals do so or simply because it is natural to us.
Some people's natural drive is to cheat others, or be clever in a evil way, or to deceive, or to get angry, or to get angry and throw tantrums, or to be amorous and immoral, or to sleep with same sex. They are called temptations. You don't have to fall into them. You can have continuous and permanent victory and cure over temptation by the power of God. Including the temptation to be an hideous gay.

What you need to get through your homophobic head is that there is nothing hideous about being gay. It is as natural as eating and needs no cure or Jesus magic.

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Re: Christianity And LGBT by Image123(m): 12:14am On Nov 19
LordReed:


So the gay sperm donor is not the biological father of a child? The lesbian egg donor is not the biological mother of the child? What a laugh. If DNA testing is done whose genes do you suppose it will reveal as the father or mother in either scenario?

You are being deliberately thick, i really pity those who don't see through you. Is the donor the homo couple under discussion? The homo couple clearly cannot produce one child without help, spin it till you unscrew a nut in your head. It remains the fact.
Re: Christianity And LGBT by Image123(m): 12:17am On Nov 19
LordReed:


Did it occur to you that if there were only gays and lesbians they'd still be having children? Put on your thinking hat I know you can do it. LoL.

How mr. thinker? By looking for an outside donor of another gender. Two zero homos will produce zero, duh
Re: Christianity And LGBT by Image123(m): 12:24am On Nov 19
LordReed:


According to you being "cured" of drinking means drinking is unnatural. LMFAO! Can you see how ass-backward that idea is?

How do you arrive at such assumption despite the kindergarten explanation i have repeatedly given you that sin is natural to every man but never an excuse for any man?
Re: Christianity And LGBT by Image123(m): 12:30am On Nov 19
MuttleyLaff:
Image123, looks like you it's you who danced reggae around where I typed answering your question with:

"... there are all kinds of prostitutes, lmso, political prostitutes, careerist prostitutes et cetera. Now, here is the point, lmso, at any time, any person, who willingly uses his/her talent, any part of his/her body, uses gained opportunity or uses his/her ability, amorous ability or not, in a base and unworthy way, usually for money, fame, fortune, position, leverage is a prostitute.

If prostitutes and/or pretend prostitute(s), are in the genealogy of Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, then I have no qualms with considering such kind of prostitutes being OK. Have you thought about prophet Hosea, lmso, hmm?[/I]"

I never typed or suggested anything of [i]"prostitution is not a fruit of the Spirit etc
" that is you again, dishonestly and/or unfairly saying what I never said.

What I correctly typed was: "People sleeping around with different people are not displaying the fruit of the Spirit, which as evident in Galatians 5:22-23 is:
love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, humility, endurance, gentleness and self-control.
"

Two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them do not do sleeping around with different people. They faithful, committed and loyal to each other.

Here is the question yet again Muttley. Try giving a short and straightforward answer this time. It's easy to comprehend that way.

Do you consider it okay to be a prostitute if you are not prostituting for a temple cause? Also, are you of the opinion that God has no problem with people sleeping around with different people that they are not married to, asides temple matters?
Re: Christianity And LGBT by Image123(m): 12:34am On Nov 19
LordReed:


What is clear is that disease does not discriminate between hetero or homo and that the increased rates in the homosexual community continues to be because of risky behaviour which is also found in heterosexual community. So if disease is the harm you are calling out homosexuals for then you just axed the heterosexual community as well.

The numbers and the percentages are irrelevant right? There is no harm right? All the mental and physical issues mentioned are all advantages right?
Re: Christianity And LGBT by Image123(m): 12:39am On Nov 19
LordReed:


What you need to get through your homophobic head is that there is nothing hideous about being gay. It is as natural as eating and needs no cure or Jesus magic.

i don't fear homos, i pity them. Being an homo is as natural as being a liar, a thief, a fornicator etc They are all curable at the feet of calvary and people have been cured. Even naturally like you affirmed, the vile act can be subdued. What you have to get through that snake head of yours is that you don't have to be a homo BECAUSE animals do it.
Re: Christianity And LGBT by MuttleyLaff: 6:13am On Nov 19
Image123:
Here is the question yet again Muttley. Try giving a short and straightforward answer this time. It's easy to comprehend that way.

Do you consider it okay to be a prostitute if you are not prostituting for a temple cause?

MuttleyLaff:
Image123, looks like you it's you who danced reggae around where I typed answering your question with:

"... there are all kinds of prostitutes, lmso, political prostitutes, careerist prostitutes et cetera. Now, here is the point, lmso, at any time, any person, who willingly uses his/her talent, any part of his/her body, uses gained opportunity or uses his/her ability, amorous ability or not, in a base and unworthy way, usually for money, fame, fortune, position, leverage is a prostitute.

If prostitutes and/or pretend prostitute(s), are in the genealogy of Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ, then I have no qualms with considering such kind of prostitutes being OK. Have you thought about prophet Hosea, lmso, hmm?
"

I never typed or suggested anything of "prostitution is not a fruit of the Spirit etc" that is you again, dishonestly and/or unfairly saying what I never said.

What I correctly typed was: "People sleeping around with different people are not displaying the fruit of the Spirit, which as evident in Galatians 5:22-23 is:
love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, humility, endurance, gentleness and self-control.
"

Two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed, truthful, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them do not do sleeping around with different people. They faithful, committed and loyal to each other.
The emboldened and underlined, in the above, shows my succinct answer to your question


Image123:
.... Also, are you of the opinion that God has no problem with people sleeping around with different people that they are not married to, asides temple matters?
Image123, it boggles the eyes, watching and reading you setting up a strawman.

Please tell me what connection has "people sleeping around with different people" with two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed to each other, truthful to each other, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex monogamous relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them do not do sleeping around with different people.

I make it clear with an IMHO, whenever, I do opinions. If you need to know and to quench your curiosity, I am not in favour of "people sleeping around with different people" in either heterosexual or homosexual relationships,
Re: Christianity And LGBT by MuttleyLaff: 6:49am On Nov 19
LordReed:
What you need to get through your homophobic head is that there is nothing hideous about being gay. It is as natural as eating and needs no cure or Jesus magic.

Image123:
i don't fear homos...
If you dont fear homos, then whats the fuss over them about then? Whats to fear in two easy going, innocent, harmless, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful to each other, committed to each other, truthful to each other, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex monogamous relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them.

Image123:
i pity them.
You should saved the pity for yourself because there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see homos in the kingdom of God, but you yourself is thrown out, lmso

Image123:
Being an homo is as natural as being a liar, a thief, a fornicator etc
Being a liar, a thief, a fornicator et cetera, is not the case of two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed to each other, truthful to each other, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex monogamous relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them.

Image123:
They are all curable at the feet of calvary and people have been cured. Even naturally like you affirmed, the vile act can be subdued ...
What exactly is this your so called the vile act, in the case of two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed to each other, truthful to each other, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex monogamous relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them do not do sleeping around with different people?

Image123:
... What you have to get through that snake head of yours is that you don't have to be a homo BECAUSE animals do it.
I dont know about any NL poster with a snake head, but I will say that, humans fly in the air obviously because animals do it. The Wright brothers, for example, who were first in flight, did a great deal of studying on the flight of birds. Wilbur and Orville realized that if birds could fly, humans could copy their design and likewise be able to fly, so from 1897 to 1899, they watched and studied birds soar into the wind. Humans burrow the earth with JCB et cetera obviously because animals do it. Humans swim in water obviously because animals do. Some humans are homosexual (i.e. have same sex attraction), not because animals do it, but because that is how they turned out, coincidentally and as it happens, homosexuality exists in plants and animals naturally because of Nature and/or a God design (i.e. anatomically and physiologically, lmso)
Re: Christianity And LGBT by LordReed(m): 7:05am On Nov 19
Image123:


You are being deliberately thick, i really pity those who don't see through you. Is the donor the homo couple under discussion? The homo couple clearly cannot produce one child without help, spin it till you unscrew a nut in your head. It remains the fact.

The glacial brain here is yours. Repeat times infinity, it doesn't matter, it is still a biological child of a homosexual person. When people marry someone who already has a child does that stop the child from being a biological child because the other parent is not their biological parent? Think and screw in the missing nuts in your dysfunctional brain.

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Re: Christianity And LGBT by LordReed(m): 7:38am On Nov 19
Image123:


How mr. thinker? By looking for an outside donor of another gender. Two zero homos will produce zero, duh

By natural birth if that wasn't already obvious. LoL.
Re: Christianity And LGBT by LordReed(m): 7:39am On Nov 19
Image123:


How do you arrive at such assumption despite the kindergarten explanation i have repeatedly given you that sin is natural to every man but never an excuse for any man?

Ahh, it's clearer now. Homosexuality is natural just that its a sin. LoL.
Re: Christianity And LGBT by LordReed(m): 7:43am On Nov 19
Image123:


The numbers and the percentages are irrelevant right? There is no harm right? All the mental and physical issues mentioned are all advantages right?

In establishing a case that homosexuals are a harm to society? Yes they are irrelevant because you can find many subsets of the human population that has increased disease risk. Farmers have increased risk of cancer, does that imply we should get rid of them? Does that imply societal harm?
Re: Christianity And LGBT by LordReed(m): 7:47am On Nov 19
Image123:


i don't fear homos, i pity them. Being an homo is as natural as being a liar, a thief, a fornicator etc They are all curable at the feet of calvary and people have been cured. Even naturally like you affirmed, the vile act can be subdued. What you have to get through that snake head of yours is that you don't have to be a homo BECAUSE animals do it.

You don't call the things you pity hideous. Its clear as daylight the revulsion you feel.

Hmmm, cured like Pastor Ted Haggard? Or like Bishop Eddie Long? LMFAO!
Re: Christianity And LGBT by Image123(m): 10:39am On Nov 21
MuttleyLaff:


The emboldened and underlined, in the above, shows my succinct answer to your question

By the emboldened, you mean ("then I have no qualms with considering such kind of prostitutes being OK"wink. In other words, you consider it okay to be a prostitute. You believe because Rehab is in the geneology of Jesus, then it is okay to be a prostitute. It is laughable because the genealogy of Jesus was never given as a standard. There are all kinds of criminals, killers and wicked men in that genealogy too. That is besides the fact that it was never Rehab's prostitution that 'qualified' her but despite it.

Image123, it boggles the eyes
watching and reading you setting up a strawman.

Please tell me what connection has "people sleeping around with different people" with two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed to each other, truthful to each other, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex monogamous relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them do not do sleeping around with different people.

I make it clear with an IMHO, whenever, I do opinions. If you need to know and to quench your curiosity, I am not in favour of "people sleeping around with different people" in either heterosexual or homosexual relationships,

You said that homosexuals do a lot of 'good' things like " love, relationship, friendship, deep affection, caring, doting, devotion, kindness, fondness, warmth, commitment, companionship, loyalty, faithfulness, thoughtfulness" etc. To which i responded that prostitutes also make clean money from the proceeds of the jobs and big supermarkets/boutiques they run. And then you've been on about how God is OK with prostitutes.
Prostitution, adultery and fornication my friend are, people sleeping around with different people that they are not married to. They are sins in the eyes of God and people who do them are going to hell except they repent. But then you thankfully say you are not in favour of "people sleeping around with different people" in either heterosexual or homosexual relationships.
Back to the matter, an homo couple is no different from a faithful fornicator, they are both sinners. There are many fornicators not married but faithful to one another.
Re: Christianity And LGBT by MuttleyLaff: 1:04pm On Nov 21
Image123:
By the emboldened, you mean ("then I have no qualms with considering such kind of prostitutes being OK"wink. In other words, you consider it okay to be a prostitute.
If you had properly read and clearly thought of what you read in my post(s), you would know that I have seen in so many words, where I've typed that not having a covering all cases blanket OK to be a prostitute.

Image123:
You believe because Rehab is in the geneology of Jesus, then it is okay to be a prostitute. It is laughable because the genealogy of Jesus was never given as a standard.
You cant hide from the fact and truth that God is OK with Tamar, Rahab and prophet Hosea's wife, but He wasn't and isnt OK with cult prostitutes, sacred qadesh (i.e. male cult temple prostitutes/servants) and qedesha (i.e. female cult temple prostitutes/servants). He isn't OK with prostitution practices, used to desecrate the worship and reverence of Him with their distasteful fertility ritual and impurity idolatry sex worship, with sperm consumption being an act of worship et cetera.

Image123:
There are all kinds of criminals, killers and wicked men in that genealogy too. That is besides the fact that it was never Rehab's prostitution that 'qualified' her but despite it.
You are learning fast, lmso. So you are beginning to get it that something else qualifies the marginalised, that you see as undesirables, abi, when there isn't any unpleasant about them, lmso

Image123:
You said that homosexuals do a lot of 'good' things like " love, relationship, friendship, deep affection, caring, doting, devotion, kindness, fondness, warmth, commitment, companionship, loyalty, faithfulness, thoughtfulness" etc. To which i responded that prostitutes also make clean money from the proceeds of the jobs and big supermarkets/boutiques they run. And then you've been on about how God is OK with prostitutes.

Prostitution, adultery and fornication my friend are, people sleeping around with different people that they are not married to. They are sins in the eyes of God and people who do them are going to hell except they repent. But then you thankfully say you are not in favour of "people sleeping around with different people" in either heterosexual or homosexual relationships.
From the onset, my standpoint has always been commitment, faithfulness, honesty, fidelity, loyalty, trust, monogamy et cetera

Prostitutes, in early biblical times speaking, were a problem and nuisance to God, in terms of them being associated with orgastic temple rites, temple prostitutions, infidelity, sexual sacrifices with the belief that having sex with qadesh (i.e. in Biblical times, qadesh are men whose quality of life has degenerated to the point of being attached to certain temples, as temple male prostitutes engaging in sexual activity thats paid for) brings about divine favour, blessings and/or a new and higher level of spirituality, sexual fertility rites et cetera.

Image123:
Back to the matter, an homo couple is no different from a faithful fornicator, they are both sinners. There are many fornicators not married but faithful to one another.
If you are holier than thou and without sin, please cast the first stone, lmso.

Stay on course please and quit all these your straw man mining. You are now jumping off prostitutes to fornicators, lmso. No problem, but whats' your " ... many fornicators not married but faithful to one another" connect with monogamous homosexual couple about?
Re: Christianity And LGBT by Image123(m): 1:14pm On Nov 21
MuttleyLaff:


If you dont fear homos, then whats the fuss over them about then? Whats to fear in two easy going, innocent, harmless, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful to each other, committed to each other, truthful to each other, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex monogamous relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them.

The same fuss i have with liars, thieves, idolaters and killers.

You should saved the pity for yourself because there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see homos in the kingdom of God, but you yourself is thrown out, lmso
It is my heart desire to see all men in the kingdom of Heaven so there cannot be weeping on my part for seeing anyone there. However, i know the truth in God's Word that sinners have no place in heaven.

Being a liar, a thief, a fornicator et cetera, is not the case of two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed to each other, truthful to each other, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex monogamous relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them.
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A homo, a liar, a thief, a fornicator are all sinners.

[quote]What exactly is this your so called the vile act, in the case of two easy going, ordinary consenting adults, minding their own businesses enjoying a life long caring, faithful, committed to each other, truthful to each other, honest, loving each other, lasting that's a lifetime life-long and loyal same-sex monogamous relationship, that is not causing damage or harm to another person, not betraying of another person, or even, not cheating on another person, and not being harmful to an object or neighbour, who love each other, enjoy each other’s company, are mutually respectful to each other, mutually supportive to each other, and all that and more, sometimes without sex necessarily being the leading or most important thing for them do not do sleeping around with different people?

The vile act is being a homo Adam and Steve instead of Adam and Eve. God made them male and female, never male and male for marriage.

I dont know about any NL poster with a snake head, but I will say that, humans fly in the air obviously because animals do it. The Wright brothers, for example, who were first in flight, did a great deal of studying on the flight of birds. Wilbur and Orville realized that if birds could fly, humans could copy their design and likewise be able to fly, so from 1897 to 1899, they watched and studied birds soar into the wind. Humans burrow the earth with JCB et cetera obviously because animals do it. Humans swim in water obviously because animals do. Some humans are homosexual (i.e. have same sex attraction), not because animals do it, but because that is how they turned out, coincidentally and as it happens, homosexuality exists in plants and animals naturally because of Nature and/or a God design (i.e. anatomically and physiologically, lmso)

The person i was talking to knows himself but since you decided to be his "voltron", perhaps you should do your research properly. You should have continued your modelling from animals with cannibalism, nudity, shamelessness and other animalistic behaviour not just the ones you mentioned. Do humans fly like birds or burrow like animals. Do they do the actions with the same purpose? Don't even bother to answer the obvious fallacy lane you mapped. Let's try sticking to the point. Homos are sinners, QED.
Re: Christianity And LGBT by Image123(m): 1:20pm On Nov 21
LordReed:


The glacial brain here is yours. Repeat times infinity, it doesn't matter, it is still a biological child of a homosexual person. When people marry someone who already has a child does that stop the child from being a biological child because the other parent is not their biological parent? Think and screw in the missing nuts in your dysfunctional brain.

Duh, we were referring to the homo couple remember? Homos cannot reproduce without help, that is what i have being saying all along but you have been trying all means to spin this clear fact. Homos are a threat to human extinction. Without being straight and having straight and sane people in the society. Leaving it for homos, the human race is gone. Now can you attempt being original for once?
Re: Christianity And LGBT by Image123(m): 1:21pm On Nov 21
LordReed:


By natural birth if that wasn't already obvious. LoL.

As in natural birth BY an outside donor of another gender. Say it loud and CLEAR for them to hear well.
Re: Christianity And LGBT by LordReed(m): 1:27pm On Nov 21
Image123:


Duh, we were referring to the homo couple remember? Homos cannot reproduce without help, that is what i have being saying all along but you have been trying all means to spin this clear fact. Homos are a threat to human extinction. Without being straight and having straight and sane people in the society. Leaving it for homos, the human race is gone. Now can you attempt being original for once?

You have been referring to couples while I have been referring to individuals. Homosexuals are no threat to society nor will they bring about extinction. You be original and let them be.
Re: Christianity And LGBT by Image123(m): 1:33pm On Nov 21
LordReed:


Ahh, it's clearer now. Homosexuality is natural just that its a sin. LoL.

It has always being clear, except that you tagged all christians as same with your favourite view. The Bible clearly teaches about the natural degenerate state of the fallen man. You must have read it before, ALL have sinned. IN sin we were formed. That is the obvious reason and NEED for being born AGAIN. All humans are naturally born sinners, and the natural man does not understand the things of God as they are foolishness to him. These things are not strange to you, only that the devil blinded you and you happily went along. So whatever the sin, whether being a homo, or stealing, or adultery or pride, or malice etc. They are all natural man's sins. But never an excuse lie you are making it. Sin is natural to every man but never an excuse for any man? Also, just like all other sins are learned and improved on, people copy and learn all bad things through influence. The same way homosexuality is also learned in places like prisons, hostels and through the glamour of the media. So we have sinners who are born into it and those who learn it, whatever the sin. Whether thieves or homos or liars or rapists. i want to believe this is kindergaten enough for you to understand yet.
Re: Christianity And LGBT by Image123(m): 1:38pm On Nov 21
LordReed:


You have been referring to couples while I have been referring to individuals. Homosexuals are no threat to society nor will they bring about extinction. You be original and let them be.

Good to see you see that. Of course i let them be like every other sinner. But when people like you come to the religion section here to try convincing folks that there is no wrong and no harm in being homo, we have to speak up. When you say and infer that we should be homos because animals are homos, i have no choice than to speak up as much as i am opportuned.
Re: Christianity And LGBT by Image123(m): 1:41pm On Nov 21
LordReed:


You don't call the things you pity hideous. Its clear as daylight the revulsion you feel.

Hmmm, cured like Pastor Ted Haggard? Or like Bishop Eddie Long? LMFAO!

Sin is hideous, sinners are to be pitied. Talk about Peter and Paul, i don't know your role models that you mentioned. i only read about them.
Re: Christianity And LGBT by MuttleyLaff: 3:28pm On Nov 21
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The same fuss i have with liars, thieves, idolaters and killers.
Just as you aren't a liar, you aren't a thief, aren't an idolater (i.e. temple prostitute, in line with the original word used in the original Hebrew and Greek text, lmso), you aren't a killer, so aren't harmless, committed, loyal, trustful in monogamous romantic relationship(s) same sex attraction couples or homosexuals, so I dont see what particularly is all your excitement over harmless, committed, loyal, trustful in monogamous romantic relationship(s) same sex attraction couples or homosexual is about.

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It is my heart desire to see all men in the kingdom of Heaven so there cannot be weeping on my part for seeing anyone there. However, i know the truth in God's Word that sinners have no place in heaven.
There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth on your part if you dont repent because you'll be shocked at seeing them inside the kingdom of Heaven, but you barred from entry for your bias towards them.

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A homo, a liar, a thief, a fornicator are all sinners.
I know quite a bunch of people though are homos, they individually aren't "a liar, a thief, a fornicator" sic as you originally put it, lmso

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The vile act is being a homo Adam and Steve instead of Adam and Eve.
Adam and Steve or even Madam and Eve are all four created by God, so what exactly is the vile act alleged in being Adam and Steve or even Madam and Eve, hmm?

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God made them male and female, never male and male for marriage.
I am speechless that you aren't aware that mankind was created and is created for companionship.

Of course God made them male and female. He made Adam and Eve, He made Adam and Steve and its Him too, also who even made Madam and Eve. Marriage wasn't even specifically mentioned in first second, third Genesis. As a matter of fact, even relationship, where you find it or deemed fit, precedes procreation. God made human beings for companionship brother, lmso. This is why love and relationship is eternal, but marriage isn't, lmso.

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The person i was talking to knows himself but since you decided to be his "voltron" ...
What have you now gained from calling poster(s) names? Does calling poster(s) names make you sleep better at night ni, hmm?

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... perhaps you should do your research properly. You should have continued your modelling from animals with cannibalism, nudity, shamelessness and other animalistic behaviour not just the ones you mentioned. Do humans fly like birds or burrow like animals. Do they do the actions with the same purpose? Don't even bother to answer the obvious fallacy lane you mapped. Let's try sticking to the point.
I sure wish you take your own "prescribing to others" medicine. I sure wish you biblically, anatomically and physiologically have done your research properly.

Enjoy your "cannibalism, nudity, shamelessness and other animalistic behaviour" rabbit hole. I hope you brought along a ladder to use for climbing out of it. I am not keen jumping into it with you, so its YOYO, lmso

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Homos are sinners, QED.
You are no less a sinner than homos. We thank God, that, its not you, who is God. QED
Re: Christianity And LGBT by LordReed(m): 3:54pm On Nov 21
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It has always being clear, except that you tagged all christians as same with your favourite view. The Bible clearly teaches about the natural degenerate state of the fallen man. You must have read it before, ALL have sinned. IN sin we were formed. That is the obvious reason and NEED for being born AGAIN. All humans are naturally born sinners, and the natural man does not understand the things of God as they are foolishness to him. These things are not strange to you, only that the devil blinded you and you happily went along. So whatever the sin, whether being a homo, or stealing, or adultery or pride, or malice etc. They are all natural man's sins. But never an excuse lie you are making it. Sin is natural to every man but never an excuse for any man? Also, just like all other sins are learned and improved on, people copy and learn all bad things through influence. The same way homosexuality is also learned in places like prisons, hostels and through the glamour of the media. So we have sinners who are born into it and those who learn it, whatever the sin. Whether thieves or homos or liars or rapists. i want to believe this is kindergaten enough for you to understand yet.

LoL! As long as you agree it is natural, I am good.
Re: Christianity And LGBT by LordReed(m): 3:57pm On Nov 21
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Good to see you see that. Of course i let them be like every other sinner. But when people like you come to the religion section here to try convincing folks that there is no wrong and no harm in being homo, we have to speak up. When you say and infer that we should be homos because animals are homos, i have no choice than to speak up as much as i am opportuned.

Nope its when folk like you who want to "cure" them talk that need to be challenged. Leave them alone and we'll have no issues.

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Re: Christianity And LGBT by LordReed(m): 3:59pm On Nov 21
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Sin is hideous, sinners are to be pitied. Talk about Peter and Paul, i don't know your role models that you mentioned. i only read about them.

Read about them well then because like you they preached how Jesus magic can cure homosexuals and turned out be closet gays themselves.

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Re: Christianity And LGBT by Image123(m): 1:51am On Nov 22
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Read about them well then because like you they preached how Jesus magic can cure homosexuals and turned out be closet gays themselves.

Then i would have to read about millions of professing Christians to be fair. No, they remain insignificant and inconsequential to what i know and believe. i am okay with the Bible and overcomers like Peter, John, Paul, Apollos and some fine Christians that i have come across. It goes without saying that Jesus is Lord of all and the One to look to. These have preached the Word and will of God and are enough for me. i don't study failures like you obviously do, little wonder why you failed.
Re: Christianity And LGBT by Image123(m): 1:52am On Nov 22
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Nope its when folk like you who want to "cure" them talk that need to be challenged. Leave them alone and we'll have no issues.

They get cured every other day at the feet of Jesus. Bring them and let's cure them. Why does it bite you at all?
Re: Christianity And LGBT by Image123(m): 2:01am On Nov 22
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LoL! As long as you agree it is natural, I am good.

There was never a disagreement about homosexuality like every other sin being natural. The disagreement stems from the fact that like every other bad behavior and sin, it is also learned. Actually from experience, it is mostly learned. The bulk percentage of homos you meet will admit that they "discovered" they were homos when they got the encouragement and influence either in hostels, same gender institutions, prisons or encouraging media, child abuse. That's the environment. Just like sagging trousers, smoking, drinking, rape, orgies.

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