^^^ efisher,
becos the moderator looks like one that disagreed doesnt mean she is right. Thats her opinion to be honest and we all av our individual opinions.

@chamber,

Good and tots provoking points u raised here and desirable but my opinion is all these involve with time. you reffered to the US and Uk system, can u also refer to the south africa, or even the ghanian system? how do u think its being pursued. the system we have presently hasnt even been vigourously pursed and we are already calling for a brand new one labelling the present one a failure. i still insist that nothing is absolutely wrong with the system

Good and tots provoking points u raised here and desirable but my opinion is all these involve with time. you reffered to the US and Uk system, can u also refer to the south africa, or even the ghanian system? how do u think its being pursued. the system we have presently hasnt even been vigourously pursed and we are already calling for a brand new one labelling the present one a failure. i still insist that nothing is absolutely wrong with the system

Well,i do not call for total replacement of the present system.But we have to accept that there are problems,because only by so doing can we find solutions.When we identify the problems with the current system,we can then know areas that need amendments.The world will not wait for us.Even the US also agrees that something needs to be done about their educational system to make it follow current trends in the society.The educational system is the embodiment of the society and therefore must be continuously assessed to determine its relevance to the aspirations of the society.

Even democracy as a system has its own problems and research is ongoing to identify the best mix of democratic principles and practices.Change is inevitable and will only come when the status quo is questioned.

Chamber, you got it right there. After the election, I believe every one will see clearly to accept the glaring fact.

@ Chambers: Kudos to you, very clear and well stated points.

Buhari is not learned so hw ll he knw if there is anytin wrong wit d education system. He shuld ve bin asked in hausa

chamber2:

The problem here is that most people think that the system of education is just the 6-3-3-4.This is only part of the system.An educational system encompasses the overall experience and ideology of the learning process.It connotes both the content of the curriculum and the teaching methodology.

And that system in Nigeria is well defined, and there is nothing wrong with it! The teaching methodology is well spelt out but it is another issue if it is followed by administrators, Principals or VCs. So understand the system and differentiate it from the people or the implementation.
As an analogy, in our criminal procedures, Bail is free, but have you seen people walk out of police stations on bail for free? Is that a problem with the procedure or the police team or force?

A system that lays emphasis on the amount of information a student can remember rather than what he can do with the information is not a good system.The difference b/w the Nigeria school system and that of US,UK etc is that why Nigerian students are merely passive learners(a product of the educational system) the US,UK etc are active learners.They place strong emphasis on skill acquisition rather than memorisation.Our system produce people like Hon.Patrick who does not know how to use simple English words to make meaning why the US,UK etc systems produce people like Barrack Obama who know the importance of language.

Every educational system emphasises what you can remember, that is why each sets an exam. You can’t use the information if you cannot remember it!
That you can pick out Patrick shows he is not the norm rather the exception, thus system don't judge a system by the exceptions but the normal products.

What about flexibility?Is our educational system flexible?Can it accommodate people irrespective of their background.In the UK,US etc it is so easy for people to change careers.An engineer can become an Economist vis versa.My friend's wife did not pass Math in school and yet she became a pharmacist in the US.My coursemate read Economics in Nigeria and went to the US and is now studying a medical related course.Nigerians travel to the US and become nurses even when they don't have Chemistry and Biology. Does this tell you that something is wrong with our system?

This shows the innate lack of depth and looking at the total picture in your comparisons. For your information, in the US, what you need to be a nurse is nothing compared to what you need to be a qualified nurse in Nigeria. This is why every Nneka, Jane or Biola that goes to US only has to attend classes and pronto , she is a nurse in US. Your cousin is just making ends meet by joining the bottom end of the ladder. You might want to check the career path/prospect of a nurse in Nigeria vis-a-vis the one in US. By the way, I am sure you know that 'medical related' does not imply the same as medical practitioner!

Putting more money in our education system as it were will be the same as pouring water in a leaking tank. It will never hold water no matter how hard you try.

So how come the Private Schools with more and better funding using the same system, produce high school leavers that compete favourably in the western schools?

In the US and UK,passing SAT or high UCAS point will enable you gain admission into institutions and course of your choice.In Nigeria,a student will be made to pass SSCE,JAMB,P-UMTE,interview etc and yet may not study the course of his choice.All these huddles placed on the way of a student makes transition from one level to the other difficult,if not impossible.Did you know the number of students who lost the desire to further their education as a result of all these huddles and frustration?

My guy, research a little prior to posting trash. In the US you need to pass SAT, which is equivalent of our SSCE. Then you need to pass the university exams/admission tests, for our own due to our unified system, we use JAMB. It seems you really do not understand the Nigerian educational system and I'd advice you to read up on it and you'd be better informed and enlightened.

Are there provision for those who can not pass any of these exams?If yes,what is the content of the curriculum?You can't be teaching someone how to build huts why his mates are building skyscrapers in other countries.

Yes, that is what the technical polytechnics & universities are for. Nobody teaches students how to build skyscrapers, but you are taught architectural design, strength of materials and it now depends on your cognitive abilities to put it all together to design a skyscrapers. As little as you think a hut is, you might not be able to design an effective one if you do not understand the principles inherent thereof.

Buhari was wrong to assume there is no problem with our education system when our science students will go abroad discover that what they were taught in school in Nigeria is quite d/f from what their mates all over the world learn't.

I can go on and on to enumerate the problems of our school system.

The only thing they discover is the vast array of opportunities to have learnt better, giving the array of available equipments for practicals. Or tell me do they discover that what is in the Principles of Physics that is used in Nigerian schools is not obtainable in a US or UK schools?

Chamber2, my candid advice to you: go learn about the Nigerian educational system and not just reading about the educational sector. They do mean different things!

chamber2:

Well,i do not call for total replacement of the present system.But we have to accept that there are problems,because only by so doing can we find solutions.When we identify the problems with the current system,we can then know areas that need amendments.The world will not wait for us.Even the US also agrees that something needs to be done about their educational system to make it follow current trends in the society.The educational system is the embodiment of the society and therefore must be continuously assessed to determine its relevance to the aspirations of the society.

Even democracy as a system has its own problems and research is ongoing to identify the best mix of democratic principles and practices.Change is inevitable and will only come when the status quo is questioned.

Look at the bolded parts of your statement above. If I thus follow your illogical statements about something being wrong with our educational system because it has problems, then I'd have to say there is something wrong with democracy since it has problems!

Hope you now understand how having problems does not imply that the system is wrong! Just that there are issues to be fixed.

midewhator:

Buhari is not learned so hw ll he knw if there is anytin wrong wit d education system. He shuld ve bin asked in hausa

I pity people like you, who think being learned is going to university alone. Tell me, was the Egyptian pyramids built by university professors or have science being able to find the mixture that enabled the Egyptians to mummify after all these years? smh.

About your bolded part, it shows your level of knowledge. The Japanese, Chinese, South Korean and even French schools I am sure ask their questions in English or are only taught in English. You guys are coming out as the bad products of a good educational system.!

Hope you now understand how having problems does not imply that the system is wrong! Just that there are issues to be fixed.

If you agree with the bolded part,then there is no point for this long argument.

I believe our educational system is one of the best in the world. Sadly, the effectiveness and quality of this system has not been properly guarded. This system was in place when Nigerians were winning global laurels from home. Lots of foreigners used to visit and study in our schools in thousands, ask those in ABU, UNIBADAN and UNILAG in the late 80s.

Any graduate from Nigeria at that time could easily defend his degree and hold his own anywhere in the world! The so called brain drain was as a result of the quality of education that we had. The system of education was perfect then, and nothing has changed!

The problem with our educational system is not the system but implementation.

Here are the words of one of the best Nigerian brains:

[size=16pt]Our Educational System Has Collapsed – Soyinka[/size]

Nobel Laureate, Professor Wole Soyinka has again raised an alarm on the state of education in the country, describing it as a colossal failure.Soyinka who spoke at the opening of a two day Education Summit organized by the Osun State government, noted that the government has failed woefully in the education sector, and thereby, called on the federal government to declare a state of emergency in the education sector.


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Read more for yourself here: [url]http://www.nigeriannewsservice.com/nns-news-archive/news-blocks/our-educational-system-has-collapsed-%E2%80%93-soyinka[/url]

I believe our educational system is one of the best in the world. Sadly, the effectiveness and quality of this system has not been properly guarded. This system was in place when Nigerians were winning global laurels from home. Lots of foreigners used to visit and study in our schools in thousands, ask those in ABU, UNIBADAN and UNILAG in the late 80s.

Any graduate from Nigeria at that time could easily defend his degree and hold his own anywhere in the world! The so called brain drain was as a result of the quality of education that we had. The system of education was perfect then, and nothing has changed!

The problem with our educational system is not the system but implementation.

Sorry,do you know when the current system came on board?

For those who are educated enough to do their research, here is another one:

Soyinka calls on govt to revive education system
http://dailytimes.com.ng/article/soyinka-calls-govt-revive-education-system

Yet another from the maestro himself:

Nobel Laureate Wole Soyinka has condemned the state of education in describing the country educational system as a colossal failure.
http://news2.onlinenigeria.com/headlines/70750-Nigerias-education-failure-says-Soyinka.html

If we want to turn this important issue into a war of words, we can bring in the professionals who know how to do it very well.

According to the Nigerian National Planning Commission 2004 report, the country’s educational system is “dysfunctional” characterized by crumbling institutions and ill-prepared graduates.

Source: http://www.spainexchange.com/guide/NG-education.htm

The intellectuals who do the planning say there are problems, those who are being planned for say there is none! Who is decieving who. The problem is even bigger than it seems!

I can go on and on, let me pause briefly with this long one

Tragedy of Nigeria’s education system
By Emma Okah
Sunday, August 29, 2010

Few years ago, there was breaking news concerning two American university students who broke into the US national intelligence computer code and succeeded in deciphering, perhaps, the most guarded secret in the world. The two students recorded the breakthrough in their bid to excel in their graduation project. For their brilliance, the American government rather commended them, and upgraded the university to a federal subvention status. The two students became instant national heroes in academic brilliance and became legends in their alma mater for lifting the university to subvention status. It therefore means that any amount of money given to that university by the US government would invariably be regarded as a donation by the two students to that institution.

Now, few months ago, a group of seventh-graders in California stunned the scientific world once again when they discovered a mysterious cave on Planet Mars. Again, this was part of a research project to study images taken by a NASA spacecraft orbiting the red planet. The 16 students from teacher Dennis Mitchell’s 7th-grade science class at Evergreen Middle School in Cottonwood, California, according to world news services, found what looks like a Martian skylight — a hole in the roof of a cave on Mars.

The students, now described in the hero-maniac country as courageous were participating in the Mars Student Imaging Program at the Mars Space Flight Facility at Arizona State University. The programme allows students to frame a research question and then commission a Mars-orbiting camera to take an image to answer their question. For years, scientists had wondered what kind of materials or deposits could be stored inside the hole discovered by the students, but the young researchers had initially set out to hunt for lava tubes, a common volcanic feature on Earth and Mars, but ended up solving one of the world’s mysteries.

According to reports, the class did it by commissioning a main photo and a backup image of Mars’ Pavonis Mons volcano, targeted on a region that hadn’t been imaged up close. The pictures were taken by NASA’s Mars Odyssey orbiter using its Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) instrument. Both images showed lava tubes, as the students had hoped. But the backup photo provided another surprise: a small, round black spot. It was a hole on Mars leading into the buried cave, researchers said.

The students have submitted their site to be further imaged by the High Resolution Imaging Science Experiment (HiRISE) camera on NASA’s Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter, which could reveal enough detail to see inside the hole in the ground. It is said that the Mars Student Imaging Program is certainly one of the greatest educational programmes ever developed and it gives the students a good understanding of the way research is conducted and how that research can be important for the scientific community.

The two breakthroughs by mere students in the US, and many other such advances represent the true meaning of functional education in any serious country. Agreed, we hear of shooting incidents and unbriddled freedom in American universities but we also hear numerous academic breakthroughs and discoveries. In Nigeria, we hear of sorting, sex inducements, grade-substitution, and total violence. Recent surveys on Nigeria and Ghana have revealed that Ghana hostels are quiet, neat, serene, and durable while their Nigerian counterparts are mere market squares where students import the loudest musical gadgets and home movie machines to thrill themselves. The rest, in order to escape the nearby Armageddon, stage their own “positive” noise through evangelism programmes close to the hostels. The result is a centre of cacophony where nothing good can ever come from.

At best, the students read and cram all thesis and after correctly reproducing them to their nonchalant lecturers, obtain a First Class or some other top grades and walk out the universities to demand the promised job offer to top-graders. This could be when such high-fliers get jobs, and they remain there forever without any invention, and end- up tops in corruption and dubious national leadership struggles.

The truth is that our educational system is not result-oriented. It is also not research-based. Talking about research, many would jump for joy, thinking we mean an indictment on governments for poor funding, but the female nurse who developed a famous method for halting youth violence by detecting early signs did it without a dime, just by writing down figures and later interpreting them. Most social research works that interpret deviations in behaviour do require funds, but we do not embark on any.

Nigeria is still at the level of struggling to adopt a reform model to transform its educational system. At least, this has been the preoccupation of the ruling party since the past decade. This almost came to a head when Dr Oby Ezekwesili used her short tenure in the twilight of the Chief Olussegun Obasanjo era to develop a reform model after series of stakeholders’ summits. But just because the model wanted to hand over the Unity Schools that produce nothing but ethnocentric future leaders and hate exponents to the private sector to manage, entrenched interests fought her and as soon as she left, they mauled the recommendations. Now, the present education minister has started calling for yet another round of stakeholders’ summit. Many Nigerians do not take these things seriously anymore.

The best that can happen is another document that would lie on the shelf.
The truth is that Nigerian education is in tatters. The Federal Government is just pretending. Public schools are just evil classrooms where unfortunate pupils whose parents cannot afford private schools get initiated into evil. They write answers at exams for students on the blackboard. Money is the only grammar that is spoken in such schools. The invigilators, principals, teachers, police, hired mercenaries and other volunteers are all involved in the cheating ring especially in terminal examinations. If anyone doubts the deplorable state of our education system, let an inquiry be conducted to see any government official from level 07 that has a direct child (not maid) in any public primary school, at least in southern Nigeria. Rich men send their children abroad.

Some even send their children to Ghana and South Africa, while others send their wards to top private schools in Nigeria. The rest send their wards to ordinary private schools or “runs centres’ also known as magic centres. The poorest of the poor settle for the abandoned public schools. The tragedy is that those who manage the education system as ministers and commissioners do not know what a public school classroom looks like until they come for “inspection”. Those who manage our roads as Transport Ministers and commissioners do not travel by road.

There is a total disconnect. If the governors who award the contracts to build schools do not send their children there, the commissioners do not send theirs, the contractors do not try it, the school inspectors do not risk it, and even the head teachers do not have their wards in their schools, for whom then are the schools meant ? How can anyone truly monitor the schools? The best monitoring is when a minister’s child comes home to report to the father about what happened in his class. Anything else is rumour or fabricated brief by absentee inspectors to a governor.

Products of such educational system would never discover anything more than early sex, indecent dressing, Nollywood habits, corruption, incestuous inclinations, cultism, exam malpractice and how fast to cheat everyone. Nobody has thought it wise to impose a small levy per child in private schools so that the funds there-from would go to public schools for additional materials. Even if such a system is introduced, be sure that the fund would be diverted by officials to help the government in power contest and win elections, sponsor foreign trips for mistresses of government officials, and all other things except the original purpose, just like the PDTF, the rice fees at the port, the ship building fund at NIMASA, the vehicle fund at the Customs, etc.

This is the tragedy of our education system.

http://www.nigerianbestforum.com/blog/?p=58352

Nigeria is still at the level of struggling to adopt a reform model to transform its educational system. At least, this has been the preoccupation of the ruling party since the past decade. This almost came to a head when Dr Oby Ezekwesili used her short tenure in the twilight of the Chief Olussegun Obasanjo era to develop a reform model after series of stakeholders’ summits. But just because the model wanted to hand over the Unity Schools that produce nothing but ethnocentric future leaders and hate exponents to the private sector to manage, entrenched interests fought her and as soon as she left, they mauled the recommendations. Now, the present education minister has started calling for yet another round of stakeholders’ summit. Many Nigerians do not take these things seriously anymore.


Products of such educational system would never discover anything more than early sex, indecent dressing, Nollywood habits, corruption, incestuous inclinations, cultism, exam malpractice and how fast to cheat everyone. Nobody has thought it wise to impose a small levy per child in private schools so that the funds there-from would go to public schools for additional materials.

The above part further summaries the whole discussion.FULL STOP, BUHARI WAS WRONG AND SHOULD BE CORRECTED. NIGERIANS ARE NOT IGNORANT.

For those who are willing to learn, read up something here on what an education system is:

[url]https://www.indiana.edu/~tedfrick/edusys.html[/url]

efisher and chamber2

The two of you can dig up as much caption from unintelligent newsmen that are like you and cannot differentiate the system from its workings. Soyinka clearly stated in the actual write-up that the educational sector needs an emergency. How the jounalist came to use system in befuddling.

Nobel Laureate Wole Soyinka has condemned the state of education in describing the country educational system as a colossal failure. Mr. Soyinka said this at the opening of a two-day education summit organised by the Osun State government in Osogbo, the state capital. He added that the government has failed woefully in the education sector, and thereby called on the federal government to declare a state of emergency in the education sector. Although he appreciated the government for recognising that there is a crisis in the educational sector, he urged the three tiers of government in the country to create an enabling environment suitable for learning.

“Students nowadays learn under very harsh conditions which in itself could lead to crisis,” he said. “There are no sufficient teaching materials in our schools again, there is poor welfare for the students and the library and laboratories are now empty.”

Like me break it down to you, if there was a cholera outbreak and people are sick and dying, would you report that the human nervous system in Nigeria is not working and that the system needs to be changed?

The educational sector has broken down and parts of the system are in disarray, and that refers to the implementation/administration not the system itself. Another analogy, the combustion system of a car is not what has failed when the car has problems, but parts of the car. When you replace those parts, the car works fine and smooth using the same combustion system. You'd want to know that the petrol engine, the diesel engine and the jet engine are all based on the same combustion system.

Do you now understand why there is nothing wron with the system, but the parts are broken.

^^^ You should have said efisher, chamber2, Wole Soyinka, UN, UNESCO and every other knowledgeable human being,
Don't make me post what UN and the rest of the world have said. I have facts and references to back up my arguements.

We all know what we are talking about. We can play around the words as much as we like but it doesnt change the facts. 

efisher:

^^^ You should have said efisher, chamber2, Wole Soyinka, UN, UNESCO and every other knowledgeable human being,
Don't make me post what UN and the rest of the world have said. I have facts and references to back up my arguements.

We all know what we are talking about. We can play around the words as much as we like but it doesnt change the facts. 

efisher, chamber2, (I will discount your attempt to ascribe authority to yourself by association) and please remove Soyinka from that list as I have shown you what he actually said and he definitely was not referring to the system, so please get your facts right. And do come out with the facts from those bodies that you have.

efisher, let me ask you the same question I have asked chamber2 which he has not replied, and am sure you have read but have deemed it fit not to respond to.

a. The Private Schools in Nigeria, are they using a different educational system than the one in operations presently in Nigeria?
b. Can those Private Schools graduates compete favourably in the best universities in the world?
c. What do you see as the difference between the public schools and the Private Schools?

Please do answer me clearly the above. I'm waiting.

efisher:

^^^ You should have said efisher, chamber2, Wole Soyinka, [b]UN, UNESCO and every other knowledgeable human being[/b],
Don't make me post what UN and the rest of the world have said. I have facts and references to back up my arguements.

We all know what we are talking about. We can play around the words as much as we like but it doesnt change the facts. 

Oya bring the UN and UNESCO stuff on undiluted. im ready to read.

Had it been it was GEJ that made this statement, some idiots here would try and twist it just to give him a bad name. Am patiently waiting to watch yall eat ur words after the elections. Buhari my ass!

efisher:

^^^ You should have said efisher, chamber2, Wole Soyinka, [b]UN, UNESCO and every other knowledgeable human being[/b],
Don't make me post what UN and the rest of the world have said. I have facts and references to back up my arguements.

We all know what we are talking about. We can play around the words as much as we like but it doesnt change the facts. 

Oya bring the UN and UNESCO stuff on undiluted. im ready to read.

slimghost:

Had it been it was GEJ that made this statement, some idiots here would try and twist it just to give him a bad name. Am patiently waiting to watch yall eat your words after the elections. Buhari my backside!

At least try to follow up on issues. The president has in fact on changing the system, a move that is not widely accepted. Rather than tackling the main issues, his administration has instead proposed that the system was faulty, something many in the education sector have denied. It is easy to think all of this is just for elections or for some particular candidate, but the fact is these problems existed long before elections, and probably will after, if we do not recognize and tackle the real issues.

a. The Private Schools in Nigeria, are they using a different eduactional system than the one in operations presently in Nigeria?
b. Can those Private Schools graduates compete  favourably in the best universities in the world?
c. What do you see as the difference between the public schools and the Private Schools?

What evidence do you have to suggest that the private schools are doing better than their government counterparts?How many researches have been carried out by these institutions?How many of their graduates are doing well compare to public schools?How many public lectures,discourse etc have been initiated by these institutions?How many of them can compete with any university abroad.Upon all the money Atiku Abubakar spent on building the American university of Nigeria,we are yet to feel the impact.The only good thing about them is that they don't go on strike.

Private universities employ poorly trained lecturers on the bid to reduce cost thereby undermining the standard.Before i gained admission into the university,i was employed to teach in a private secondary school with my o'level. How many government owned schools employ people with o'level?


You seem not to understand what ''system'' means,to further help you,a system is a group of interacting, interrelated, or interdependent elements forming a complex whole.What affects the leg affects other parts of the body.Or can you think without your brain?

Trust me, you guys don't want to go down this road with me. UN and UNESCO documents on education in Nigeria are in abundance on the internet. If you are educated enough to know how to use Google.com, you will be tired of reading. I will not do your search for you. But for the benefit of doubt, let me give you this small appetizer:

"Education has been at the top of the priority lists of some previous Nigerian governments
yet the education system is still far from being ready for the challenges of the new
century. Nigeria is not the only country whose education system is unprepared. A closer
examination of many systems, especially in a developing context, indicate that most of
the educational systems in developing countries are not yet ready to prepare students for
the contemporary global world"

Culled from: NIGERIA EDUCATION SECTOR ANALYSIS: AN ANALYTICAL SYNTHESIS OF PERFOMANCE AND MAIN ISSUES  by Teboho Moja
Visiting Professor of Higher Education, New York University, Department of Administration, Leadership and Technology, New York, NY.

THIS DOCUMENT WAS PRODUCED FOR THE WORLD BANK IN JANUARY 2000

Link: http://siteresources.worldbank.org/NIGERIAEXTN/Resources/ed_sec_analysis.pdf

Akainzo, the answers to all your questions are here. Have a nice time reading.

More for your delight:
http://www.krepublishers.com/02-Journals/JSS/JSS-14-0-000-000-2007-Web/JSS-14-1-000-000-2007-Abst-Text/JSS-14-1-081-086-2007-541-Odia-L-O/JSS-14-1-081-086-2007-541-Odia-L-O-Tt.pdf

chamber2:

[b]What evidence do you have to suggest that the private schools are doing better than their government counterparts?[/b]How many researches have been carried out by these institutions?How many of their graduates are doing well compare to public schools?How many public lectures,discourse etc have been initiated by these institutions?How many of them can compete with any university abroad.Upon all the money Atiku Abubakar spent on building the American university of Nigeria,we are yet to feel the impact.The only good thing about them is that they don't go on strike.

Private universities employ poorly trained lecturers on the bid to reduce cost thereby undermining the standard.Before i gained admission into the university,i was employed to teach in a private secondary school with my o'level. How many government owned schools employ people with o'level?

You seem not to understand what ''system'' means,to further help you,a system is a group of interacting, interrelated, or interdependent elements forming a complex whole.What affects the leg affects other parts of the body.Or can you think without your brain?

You have rambled and rambled, and yet failed to answer any of the questions above. At this rate, are you sure your eduaction is complete, did you actually finish the university program or did you drop out?
Please address yourself to the questions asked, then give reasons to back up your claims. Thats something we learned from O'Levels back in school.

^^ check my last post, you will find all the answers you desire there.

@Chamber2, the government does not currently provide sufficient funds for research in public schools, let alone for private schools, but there is evidence to show that the private schools are doing much better than there public counterparts. But since those managing the system are not there to enforce standards in both public and private, you are bound to find some of the same problems even in some, not all, private schools too.

The president's own Children are in private schools and not public schools. The problem of poorly trained teachers is a huge indication of the quality of our schools, does not necessarily imply the system itself is faulty.

Anyways, I just felt to correct some of the misconceptions there. I am not even sure you really are concerned about the problem itself as I suspect, this to many of your here, is simply just to score points for your side of the election. But for those of us who have had our eye on the sector for quite a while, there is no doubting the fact that we do have a good system, we just do not have the right people manning the system.

At least try to follow up on issues. The president has in fact on changing the system, a move that is not widely accepted. Rather than tackling the main issues, his administration has instead proposed that the system was faulty, something many in the education sector have denied. It is easy to think all of this is just for elections or for some particular candidate, but the fact is these problems existed long before elections, and probably will after, if we do not recognize and tackle the real issues.

let me repeat this question to prove to you what a good system does.The labour market/employers of labour now want fresh graduates between 20-24 yrs,how is the Nigerian educational system responding to that? An average Nigerian graduate is b/w 25-28 yrs,that is why you see people lying about their age to get employment. A good system should cover this loophole.This not an issue of funding alone.If someone has headache,it could be as a result of fever or other ailments.If you leave the fever to cure headache the ailment will only subside but will resurface after a while.lets tackle the issue from the root.

efisher:

^^ check my last post, you will find all the answers you desire there.

Firstly, you did not answer my questions. I believe you are smart enough to answer simple questions.

Second, I have read your post above and the links. The more for my delight link, I am sure you read it, yes? If you did, you'd realise that it called for more funding, better monitoring of guidelines, stamping out exam malpractices, all this are problems of the system. Not in one place, was there a recommendation to change the educational system.

And about the UN links, they are basically asking us to better fund our universities, improve research capabilities and be increase the scientific basis for our graduates. Nowhere did they say we should change the system, they pointed out flaws/problems but did not advocate a change. Or did they say we should adopt a US, British or Japanese system?