There is no problem with the system, it is the people that have issues, my school moved from its location more than 6 times, yet, we still had a good secondary school education because our teachers were dedicated.

chamber2:

What are you saying?Do you really know what systems are?

So what is wrong with 6 3 3 4 ? My school moved because water took over our school and we had to be squatting all over the place, despite these challenges, I made straight As in my SSCE, we had good teachers and I was a very serious student.

chamber2:

I maintain that there is something wrong with our system.

Corruption itself is a bye product of a bad system.

A good system should have in-built controls to ensure its output meets the required standards.

Question: If we succed in eliminating corruption (which is very unrealistic) but retain our current system (policies, procedures, controls and structures), will our education sector suddenly be able to cater for the education needs of the populace?

THE HEN OR THE EGG, WHICH COMES FIRST?

chamber2:

I maintain that there is something wrong with our system.

Corruption itself is a bye product of a bad system.

Hey my friend! if corruption is the by-product of a bad system, how did bad system come into being? I can tell you that your analytical skill is so bad which makes you not to know which one result to which. Let me tell you; if you have a carpenter(square peg/corrupt person) telling you that he can repair your TV (round hole), what result is he going to produce?What am saying is that if sm1 with no strong will but claims to have the will (corrupt person) and also lacks the knowledge of how to do or use ppl to achieve things(clueless person like GEJ); this definitely would lead to mismanagement of human and material resources, thus producing a system like ours(Nigerians).

Let me tell u, Buhari said it clearly during yesterday debate that : the laws and financial regulations are clear but failure to implement is the major cause of our underdevelopment. This statement tells any reasonable person that mismanagement, indiscipline, corruption make ppl to deviate from plan as a result of which PHCN, Water corporation, roads, education would not work.

Probably u'r yet to get it, this example would make it easier for u: if you buy a new generator(our education system) and u did not put adequate  oil/petrol (funding), would the generator run well? or would u say the generator is not good?

chamber2:

Jamb used to be epileptic during the time of prof.Salim Bello,but when Prof.Oyerinde took over what happened?You write jamb and get your result within 2 months.What happened to jamb? A change in the system not the individual.Jamb still retained the former staffs,but the system was modified from the former business as usual approach to a more pragmatic and people orientated approach.

That is what good systems can do.It is capable of changing people.

chamber2:

Corruption itself is a bye product of a bad system.

passyjango:

You got it wrong; corruption is a by-product of a society that has gotten its values wrong. Like I said before the problem is not in the systems we have. Although they are not perfect (and non is) they can still get the job done given a better society. Take our education system to America or Japan and it will still run better than it does here. We need to clean up the society. Our problem is insincerity; we pay lip service to our development. We claim we want change but on Election Day we vote on sentiments: North or South, Not born rich or born rich, Christians or Muslims.

How can you say a system is bad when you have not implemented it sincerely and have consistently starved it of funds?

Here is a simple analogy, assuming your TV could not turn on during a low voltage situation. Do you then assume that the system (the TV) is bad and buy a new one? Even if you buy a new TV, at very low voltage the new system (new TV) will still not work, leading to waste of time and money. To conclude that your TV is bad, you have to first provide it with adequate power via your generator or connect it through a powerful AVR. Until the TV is supplied with rated voltage and it still does not turn on, only then will it be reasonable to conclude that the system (the TV) is bad.

We cannot assume that our Education system is wrong until we have fully implemented it sincerely and wholeheartedly. Only then can we objectively analyse the problems of the system.

passyjango:

You got it wrong; corruption is a by-product of a society that has gotten its values wrong. Like I said before the problem is not in the systems we have. Although they are not perfect (and non is) they can still get the job done given a better society. Take our education system to America or Japan and it will still run better than it does here. We need to clean up the society. Our problem is insincerity; we pay lip service to our development. We claim we want change but on Election Day we vote on sentiments: North or South, Not born rich or born rich, Christians or Muslims.

How can you say a system is bad when you have not implemented it sincerely and have consistently starved it of funds?

Here is a simple analogy, assuming your TV could not turn on during a low voltage situation. Do you then assume that the system (the TV) is bad and buy a new one? Even if you buy a new TV, at very low voltage the new system (new TV) will still not work, leading to waste of time and money. To conclude that your TV is bad, you have to first provide it with adequate power via your generator or connect it through a powerful AVR. Until the TV is supplied with rated voltage and it still does not turn on, only then will it be reasonable to conclude that the system (the TV) is bad.

We cannot assume that our Education system is wrong until we have fully implemented it sincerely and wholeheartedly. Only then can we objectively analyse the problems of the system.