Kobojunkie:

I have not ruled out anything. However, I am [b]not [/b]going to state here that we definitely have some systemic problems since we have no proof of that yet. They may exist but so far, all indications point to issues of mismanagement, corruption ETC. which are not systemic and have been made clear, over and over, in unbiased reports from such organizations like the worldbank, and other NGO's right in Nigeria.

Again, I am a product of that same system - my mum and many of her friends were teachers in that system. I didn't have to take any special exams to transfer my knowledge here to the states-- why? Because the training I got when I schooled down in Nigeria was sufficient for me to continue here in the states. I can't say the same today of students who leave the Nigerian schools for schools out here. The quality has taken a beaten and there is no hiding that.

We have discussed this education system at length -- in the last 3 years, I can state that we have had heated discussion on the how to tackle and where the problem really lies, at least 20 times now. This, to some of us is NOT about some silly election. Some people actually care to see this sector improved over the years as we clearly understand that the lives and future of millions depend on it. Pouring money as the current President has suggested to no solution. Building new schools without ensuring we have enough qualified teachers to train our students in the existing, and then the new schools, does not help. I can go on and on . . .

Again, notice how I keep having to correct your assumptions on our Education system? I suggest again, you spend actual time learning of the system we have and of the problem that do exist. Again, I schooled in that country ( from Primary to tertiary level) and I can confidently tell you that much of what you think is missing, has actually been provided for in our system -- only now there is so much neglect that you can hardly get anything quality coming out unless the trend is changed.

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It's obvious some people on this thread do not understand what constitutes a systemic problem. You can either have isolated issues or a systemic problem. When you can't even point to a single aspect of our educational system that's world class, that should be enough proof that there is a systemic problem.

^^^ Sorry, but I am not the one misusing the term here. If you do not understand what constitutes a systemic problem, you are best asking please!

Genius100:

It's obvious some people on this thread do not understand what constitutes a systemic problem. You can either have isolated issues or a systemic problem. When you can't even point to a single aspect of our educational system that's world class, that should be enough proof that there is a systemic problem.

paddy_lo:

Not Surprised. .Buhari is an Illiterate. . ex soldier and coup plotter
so he will see nothing wrong with the system. .

Of course a system like that will always allow the Buharis of the world with Little or no education rise to the top
while better qualified ppl never make it

Again he wishes to govern Nigeria with little or no education. . .while GEJ the PHd Holder is there

This would never fly in a civilized country

why do we accept nincompoops and charlatans such as Buhari as presidential candidates

Its laughable i tell ya. .kind of like getting pinochet to come contest in chile
or one Brazils many ex military Generals to come contest in Brazil of today

If we want to be a responsible member of the international community
then we have to leave the likes of Buhari behind. .

You talk of Buhari being an Illitrate?
You must be a Joker!!!!!!!!!!!
WILL U SAY THAT SINCE BILL GATES WAS A SCHOOL DROP-OUT, YOU WILL NOT ACCEPT A JOB FROM MICROSOFT OR USE THEIR PRODUCTS (OFCOUSE U USED A COMPUTER TO TYPE THE RUBBISH ABOVE)?

chamber2:

Your problem is that you see me and most others as aliens.Did i tell you that i was a teacher in that system?Did i tell you that i had my 1st degree in Educational Administration?So,most of the words you use here i understand them better than you do.

chamber2:

Thank you.If you compared the amount spent on education in the 1960s and the result that was obtained,and then with the amount spent on education currently,then you will begin to ask yourself if funding is actually the problem.Funding to me is just part of the problem.We need to look at the bigger issue,not just fund or mismanagement etc.

chamber2:

You talked about you and your parents being the products of this system.I ask,how old are you and how old are your parents?Do you really know when the current system was introduced?I doubt if you do or unless if your parents were born in the 80s.

opalu:

your name is Genius but u sound far from anything genius-like.

If there is anyone who lacks the basic understanding of ordinary 'systemic problem' then it is you.
For the reason that People like GEJ bagged fake PhDs from the Nigeria schools or that our youths record a 90% failure in WAEC/NECO does not mean that the system has failed. For your information, you can only say the system failed after it has been operated to full capacity, funded to full capacity and replace all the bad eggs, half-done Lecturers who are sabottaging the system.

GEJ's attempt to change the system by scrapping the NCE, converting all polys into Unis (as Obj attempted), changing from 6-3-3-4/9-3-4 to something else and other egocentric steps were met with stiff resistance by stakeholders. Now he has distributed Universities to every village.

Why do I seriously doubt that? Look, you have asked questions that people who really understand and KNOW the Nigerian school system would not have asked. You have over and over made incorrect assumptions of the current system and I, as well as others have tried to get you to see you need to have a serious understanding of what is, to even begin to diagnose this. Having a FIRST oR LAST degree in Educational Administration has NOTHING to do with understanding Nigerians educational problems!

My Parents were products of this system? Where exactly did you get this from? My parents were born in the 80's? What does that even mean?

umm . . . . The whole world KNOWS funding is part of the problem. The many strikes over unpaid salaries and lack of funding for one area or another would clue even strangers in to that issue. You have said nothing new here. How can you look at any bigger issue when you have yet to consider the issues right before your eyes -- issues that your attention has been continuously called to for over a decade now? Issues that the WorldBank has called your attention to over and over in the last 20 years?

chamber2:


You are really ignorant of the topic of discussion.The 6-3-3-4 system was introduced in 1983.Even if your parents went to secondary or university in the 80s,they still had their foundation in the old system which has been adjudged as the best.Try to do some research to help yourself.

Kobojunkie:

  [size=13pt]My Parents were products of this system? Where exactly did you get this from? My parents were born in the 80's? What does that even mean?[/size]

Oh, and another correction, 6-3-3-4 system was not introduced in 1983 -- actual implementation and start of 6-3-3-4 in schools came later than that -- Schools started the 6-3-3-4 during the IBB regime. 

opalu:

You talk of Buhari being an Illitrate?
You must be a Joker!!!!!!!!!!!
WILL U SAY THAT SINCE BILL GATES WAS A SCHOOL DROP-OUT, YOU WILL NOT ACCEPT A JOB FROM MICROSOFT OR USE THEIR PRODUCTS (OFCOUSE U USED A COMPUTER TO TYPE THE RUBBISH ABOVE)?