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How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by bingbagbo(m): 12:11pm On Nov 20
So I was in a tete a tete with this Jehovah witness guy.

Let me state that , JWs teach that Our Lord Jesus Christ is an angel. They claim Jesus is angel Michael. To them, Jesus is not God as the Bible teaches (John 1:1) but rather a god.

So in the course of our interactions, he stated:

Jesus Christ is Now a High Priest in Heaven, just like in the past, Humans (Priests) mediated between man and God so is Jesus doing now in heaven. I loved his explanation because what he stated was very much correct.

Then I asked him: " You say Jesus is a high priest, just like the priests of old, but I know that , the priests of old offered animal sacrifices to God; so in Jesus' case, which animal is He offering to God in Heaven?"

(He couldnt discern where I was leading him to grin)

Then he quickly replied: "the animal sacrifice Jesus offers in heaven to God now is He Jesus Himself."

Then I burst out laughing grin

I laughed because he was right yet again.

Then I asked him: "So Jesus is both the High Priest and the Lamb (sacrifice) as well ?"

Then he replied: "Yes!"

Then I told him: "You are so right. This same Jesus is the High Priest, and the lamb and that same God who received the sacrifice."

He took offence.

According to him, that would not make sense. So I asked him if a high priest doubling as the sacrifice made sense to him

That ended out chat grin

Jesus Christ is the High Priest, the Lamb and God.

The message of the cross is foolishness onto those who are perishing, but onto us who are being saved it is the power of God

Glory

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Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by dawnomike(m): 12:12pm On Nov 20
Some things are not worth contention nor dragging

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Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Zzor(f): 12:21pm On Nov 20
I wish MaxInDHouse and tatime are still active, they would have handled you better
Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Notatribalist(m): 1:09pm On Nov 20
bingbagbo:
So I was in a tete a tete with this Jehovah witness guy.

Let me state that , JWs teach that Our Lord Jesus Christ is an angel. They claim Jesus is angel Michael. To them, Jesus is not God as the Bible teaches (John 1:1) but rather a god.

So in the course of our interactions, he stated:

Jesus Christ is Now a High Priest in Heaven, just like in the past, Humans (Priests) mediated between man and God so is Jesus doing now in heaven. I loved his explanation because what he stated was very much correct.

Then I asked him: " You say Jesus is a high priest, just like the priests of old, but I know that , the priests of old offered animal sacrifices to God; so in Jesus' case, which animal is He offering to God in Heaven?"

(He couldnt discern where I was leading him to grin)

Then he quickly replied: "the animal sacrifice Jesus offers in heaven to God now is He Jesus Himself."

Then I burst out laughing grin

I laughed because he was right yet again.

Then I asked him: "So Jesus is both the High Priest and the Lamb (sacrifice) as well ?"

Then he replied: "Yes!"

Then I told him: "You are so right. This same Jesus is the High Priest, and the lamb and that same God who received the sacrifice."

He took offence.

According to him, that would not make sense. So I asked him if a high priest doubling as the sacrifice made sense to him

That ended out chat grin

Jesus Christ is the High Priest, the Lamb and God.

The message of the cross is foolishness onto those who are perishing, but onto us who are being saved it is the power of God

Glory
No sense in your post.

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Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by chatinent(m): 1:46pm On Nov 20
That's a nice conversation.


I have a question for you. Is Jesus God?

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Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Preciousgirl(f): 3:41pm On Nov 20
chatinent:
That's a nice conversation.


I have a question for you. Ips Jesus God?


Jesus is God Himself

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Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Blabbermouth: 4:25pm On Nov 20
Zzor:
I wish MaxInDHouse and tatime are still active, they would have handled you better
I stopped wishing the day I realized I CAN ACTUALLY DO IT MYSELF.
Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Blabbermouth: 4:27pm On Nov 20
Preciousgirl:

Jesus is God Himself
Preciousgirl, is it possible for the same person to have different Will?
Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by shadeyinka(m): 4:32pm On Nov 20
Blabbermouth:

Preciousgirl, is it possible for the same person to have different Will?
Yes!
By body could crave for food
BUT
My soul says no! You can't eat when I am fasting

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Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Blabbermouth: 4:44pm On Nov 20
shadeyinka:

Yes!
My body could crave for food
BUT
My soul says no! You when I am fasting
Lol. Shadeyinka, Will is not in the different options to choose from, will is in the choice.

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Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by MuttleyLaff: 5:34pm On Nov 20
bingbagbo:
So I was in a tete a tete with this Jehovah witness guy.

Let me state that , JWs teach that Our Lord Jesus Christ is an angel. They claim Jesus is angel Michael. To them, Jesus is not God as the Bible teaches (John 1:1) but rather a god.

So in the course of our interactions, he stated:

Jesus Christ is Now a High Priest in Heaven, just like in the past, Humans (Priests) mediated between man and God so is Jesus doing now in heaven. I loved his explanation because what he stated was very much correct.

Then I asked him: " You say Jesus is a high priest, just like the priests of old, but I know that , the priests of old offered animal sacrifices to God; so in Jesus' case, which animal is He offering to God in Heaven?"

(He couldnt discern where I was leading him to grin)

Then he quickly replied: "the animal sacrifice Jesus offers in heaven to God now is He Jesus Himself."

Then I burst out laughing grin

I laughed because he was right yet again.

Then I asked him: "So Jesus is both the High Priest and the Lamb (sacrifice) as well ?"

Then he replied: "Yes!"

Then I told him: "You are so right. This same Jesus is the High Priest, and the lamb and that same God who received the sacrifice."

He took offence.

According to him, that would not make sense. So I asked him if a high priest doubling as the sacrifice made sense to him

That ended out chat grin

Jesus Christ is the High Priest, the Lamb and God.

The message of the cross is foolishness onto those who are perishing, but onto us who are being saved it is the power of God

Glory

"Pakute ọdẹ"
loosely translated means "mousetrapped"

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Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by MuttleyLaff: 5:40pm On Nov 20
chatinent:
That's a nice conversation.
I have a question for you. Is Jesus God?
Of course, Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ is God. Even the meaning of "Yahshua Ha Mashiach" reveals and tells quite a lot.

chatinent, is it hard, beyond, impossible or difficult for God to be Jesus ni?

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Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Preciousgirl(f): 5:44pm On Nov 20
MuttleyLaff:
Of course, Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ is God. Even the meaning of "Yahshua Ha Mashiach" reveals and tells quite a lot .

chatinent, is it hard, beyond, impossible or difficult for God to be Jesus ni?


Glory!

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Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Kobojunkiee: 6:00pm On Nov 20
Blabbermouth:
Preciousgirl, is it possible for the same person to have different Will?
Well, Jesus Christ did suggest that even the Spirit of God has a Will of His own.
Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by oluwaahmed: 6:02pm On Nov 20
bingbagbo:
So I was in a tete a tete with this Jehovah witness guy.

Let me state that , JWs teach that Our Lord Jesus Christ is an angel. They claim Jesus is angel Michael. To them, Jesus is not God as the Bible teaches (John 1:1) but rather a god.

So in the course of our interactions, he stated:

Jesus Christ is Now a High Priest in Heaven, just like in the past, Humans (Priests) mediated between man and God so is Jesus doing now in heaven. I loved his explanation because what he stated was very much correct.

Then I asked him: " You say Jesus is a high priest, just like the priests of old, but I know that , the priests of old offered animal sacrifices to God; so in Jesus' case, which animal is He offering to God in Heaven?"

(He couldnt discern where I was leading him to grin)

Then he quickly replied: "the animal sacrifice Jesus offers in heaven to God now is He Jesus Himself."

Then I burst out laughing grin

I laughed because he was right yet again.

Then I asked him: "So Jesus is both the High Priest and the Lamb (sacrifice) as well ?"

Then he replied: "Yes!"

Then I told him: "You are so right. This same Jesus is the High Priest, and the lamb and that same God who received the sacrifice."

He took offence.

According to him, that would not make sense. So I asked him if a high priest doubling as the sacrifice made sense to him

That ended out chat grin

Jesus Christ is the High Priest, the Lamb and God.

The message of the cross is foolishness onto those who are perishing, but onto us who are being saved it is the power of God

Glory

Ok so whats your point.
Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by shadeyinka(m): 6:03pm On Nov 20
Blabbermouth:

Lol. Shadeyinka, Will is not in the different options to choose from, will is in the choice.
No sir!
1. My Physical Body is ME:
That is what everyone know as me
2. My Spiritual Body is ME:
That is what God, Angels and Demons see as me
3. My Soul is ME:
That is the person I refer to as Me, Myself and I.

Even if you remove all my limbs, I will still be me. Yet I am not just brain, muscle and bones. It is my soul that gives me consciousness. My Soul is the center of my WILL, EMOTION and INTELLECT.


When you are sad, is it your body that is sad or the you who lives inside you body?

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Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Blabbermouth: 6:26pm On Nov 20
Kobojunkiee:
Well, Jesus Christ did suggest that even the Spirit of God has a Will of His own.
That's not a problem.
What I'm asking is - can the same person have different [or say, separate] Will?
Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Blabbermouth: 6:31pm On Nov 20
shadeyinka:

No sir!
1. My Physical Body is ME:
That is what everyone know as me
2. My Spiritual Body is ME:
That is what God, Angels and Demons see as me
3. My Soul is ME:
That is the person I refer to as Me, Myself and I.

Even if you remove all my limbs, I will still be me. Yet I am not just brain, muscle and bones. It is my soul that gives me consciousness. My Soul is the center of my WILL, EMOTION and INTELLECT.

When you are sad, is it your body that is sad or the you who lives inside you body?
It's a baby idea to turn yourself into a Trinity as if a part of you can exist alone.
All the above does not concern me [there are some things I would have pointed out, but let me overlook sha].

Shadeyinka, define WIll please.
Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Kobojunkiee: 6:31pm On Nov 20
Blabbermouth:

That's not a problem.
What I'm asking is - can the same person have different [or say, separate] Will?
"Person" as in a human being or "person" as in God? Remember, we may be created in the "image" of God, but there is not a 1-1 comparison between God and man in many things.

And yes, the same person can have different wills.... My mind and my body tend to have different wills on any given day - part of why I feel this body of mine is a prison of sorts. grin A frustrating existence a lot of the times. Don't even get me started on the mental aspect of such torture.
Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by oluwaahmed: 6:32pm On Nov 20
I have noticed how in the religious section u guys tend to criticise JW. I will not lie to you those guy are amongst the very woke Christians that know what they are doing(partially). You need to understand Jesus mission before you can understand who God really is. There are so many scripts in the bible that point to the fact that Jesus was not God. The transfiguration where God said, this is my SON in whom I am well pleased, listen to him (mat 17 vs 5) or when Jesus prayed at Gethsemane before his betrayal and arrest. So why would we dwell on one portion of the scripture to say Jesus was God when he has clearly said in mark 10:18 "Why do you call me good?' Jesus answered. 'No one is good--except God alone." Saying Jesus is God is like saying God is bipolar because He prays to himself, and says even he does not know when the World would end only him(God) knows. Does this even make sense to you. You guys should research, read your bible and stop making Christianity look weak and disjointed. Your priest or pastor must not tell you everything.

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Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Blabbermouth: 6:33pm On Nov 20
Kobojunkiee:
"Person" as in a human being or "person" as in God? Remember, we may be created in the "image" of God, but there is not a 1-1 comparison between God and man in many things.
Okay, I'm giving you that degree of freedom.
Answer my question in both cases - God kind of "person" and human kind of "person".
Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Kobojunkiee: 6:35pm On Nov 20
Blabbermouth:

Okay, I'm giving you that degree of freedom.
Answer my question in both cases - God kind of "person" and human kind of "person".
Who can speak of the person of God? No one!

But to the "Human kind of person"? Yes, the same person can have different wills.... My mind and my body tend to have different wills on any given day - part of why I feel this body of mine is a prison of sorts. grin Don't even get me started on the mental aspect of such torture.
Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Blabbermouth: 6:51pm On Nov 20
Kobojunkiee:
Who can speak of the person of God? No one!
In other words, you don't know if God can have different will.

But to the "Human kind of person"? Yes, the same person can have different wills.... My mind and my body tend to have different wills on any given day - part of why I feel this body of mine is a prison of sorts. grin Don't even get me started on the mental aspect of such torture.
Kobojunkie, define WIll please.
Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by MuttleyLaff: 6:58pm On Nov 20
Kobojunkiee:
Well, Jesus Christ did suggest that even the Spirit of God has a Will of His own.

So? Whats the point you're trying to make and/or say with this?
What and/or who is Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ before incarnation?
I am sure you know what soliloquy(ies) is/are, yeah?
Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by MuttleyLaff: 7:10pm On Nov 20
Kobojunkiee:
Who can speak of the person of God? No one!
Who can read people's thoughts? Who knows what is going in people's mind and/or thoughts?

Kobojunkiee:
But to the "Human kind of person"? Yes, the same person can have different wills.... My mind and my body tend to have different wills on any given day - part of why I feel this body of mine is a prison of sorts. grin Don't even get me started on the mental aspect of such torture.
The Godhead is no prison, lmso. Now you get to understand the reason and necessity for harmony in the Godhead (i.e. Elohim, lmso)

In the Godhead is a strong sense of oneness, lmso, congruity, camaraderie, tranquility, peacefulness, like-mindedness,
Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Kobojunkiee: 7:20pm On Nov 20
Blabbermouth:
In other words, you don't know if God can have different will..
I know it is possible for Him because He says so. But that is all I can say on that since I am not God and have never been.
Blabbermouth:
Kobojunkie, define WIll please.

will
/wil/
noun
1. the faculty by which a person decides on and initiates action.
"she has an iron will"

-------------- a. control deliberately exerted to do something or to restrain one's own impulses.
[/]"a stupendous effort of will"[/i]
-------------- b. a deliberate or fixed desire or intention.
[/]"Jane had not wanted them to stay against their will"[/i]
--------------c. the thing that one desires or ordains.
"the disaster was God's will"
Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:30pm On Nov 20
Ask him to quote the Bible because
Jesus served as the Highpriest! Hebrew 7:1-2
Jesus served as the Lamb that was slaughtered! Revelations 5:9
So the OP is just blabbing! wink


Zzor:
I wish MaxInDHouse and tatime are still active, they would have handled you better
Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by MuttleyLaff: 7:32pm On Nov 20
Blabbermouth:
In other words, you don't know if God can have different will.

Kobojunkie, define WIll please.

Kobojunkiee:
I know it is possible for Him because He says so. But that is all I can say on that since I am not God and have never been.
What an escapist cop out

Kobojunkiee:
will
/wil/
noun
1. the faculty by which a person decides on and initiates action.
"she has an iron will"

-------------- a. control deliberately exerted to do something or to restrain one's own impulses.
"a stupendous effort of will"
-------------- b. a deliberate or fixed desire or intention.
"Jane had not wanted them to stay against their will"
--------------c. the thing that one desires or ordains.
"the disaster was God's will"
Make your cheese from the four bottles of milk you obtained from the Oxford Lexico dictionary nah. Give your own definition of your knowledge and understanding of what will is, lmso
Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Kobojunkiee: 7:37pm On Nov 20
MuttleyLaff:
What an escapist cop out
Or it simply means that, unlike you, I don't pretend to speak on behalf of God in these things. I simply echo what He has made known to us of these things. undecided
MuttleyLaff:
Make your cheese from the four bottles of milk you obtained from the Oxford Lexico dictionary nah. Give your own definition of your knowledge and understanding of what will is, lmso
Or I could simply use a definition that is already agreed upon. undecided
Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:37pm On Nov 20
Just ask each person to tell you the name of his/her church before commenting and see how they'll start arguing, abusing, insulting even cursing one another. It's only when JWs come around that they form alliance against JWs! smiley



oluwaahmed:
I have noticed how in the religious section u guys tend to criticise JW. I will not lie to you those guy are amongst the very woke Christians that know what they are doing(partially). You need to understand Jesus mission before you can understand who God really is. There are so many scripts in the bible that point to the fact that Jesus was not God. The transfiguration where God said, this is my SON in whom I am well pleased, listen to him (mat 17 vs 5) or when Jesus prayed at Gethsemane before his betrayal and arrest. So why would we dwell on one portion of the scripture to say Jesus was God when he has clearly said in mark 10:18 "Why do you call me good?' Jesus answered. 'No one is good--except God alone." Saying Jesus is God is like saying God is bipolar because He prays to himself, and says even he does not know when the World would end only him(God) knows. Does this even make sense to you. You guys should research, read your bible and stop making Christianity look weak and disjointed. Your priest or pastor must not tell you everything.
Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by Janosky: 7:52pm On Nov 20
bingbagbo:
So I was in a tete a tete with this Jehovah witness guy.

Let me state that , JWs teach that Our Lord Jesus Christ is an angel. They claim Jesus is angel Michael. To them, Jesus is not God as the Bible teaches (John 1:1) but rather a god.

So in the course of our interactions, he stated:

Jesus Christ is Now a High Priest in Heaven, just like in the past, Humans (Priests) mediated between man and God so is Jesus doing now in heaven. I loved his explanation because what he stated was very much correct.

Then I asked him: " You say Jesus is a high priest, just like the priests of old, but I know that , the priests of old offered animal sacrifices to God; so in Jesus' case, which animal is He offering to God in Heaven?"

(He couldnt discern where I was leading him to grin)

Then he quickly replied: "the animal sacrifice Jesus offers in heaven to God now is He Jesus Himself."

Then I burst out laughing grin

I laughed because he was right yet again.

Then I asked him: "So Jesus is both the High Priest and the Lamb (sacrifice) as well ?"

Then he replied: "Yes!"

Then I told him: "You are so right. This same Jesus is the High Priest, and the lamb and that same God who received the sacrifice."

He took offence.

According to him, that would not make sense. So I asked him if a high priest doubling as the sacrifice made sense to him

That ended out chat grin

Jesus Christ is the High Priest, the Lamb and God.

The message of the cross is foolishness onto those who are perishing, but onto us who are being saved it is the power of God

Glory
Bros , you confessed your rejection of Jesus Christ @ John 20:17 and Revelation 3:5,12
You think say you get SENSE?

John 20:17 & Rev3:12, from the mouth of Jesus, who is the God of Jesus Christ the High Priest?
cheesy grin


The message of the pagan Cross excites those who do not know the God and Father of Jesus Christ.
Neither do they know Jesus. cheesy grin
For the same reason, the Bros is blissful ignorant that John 1:1c Greek Theos is a god.
Greek Theos is "a god or God"

Question for Brocab & Trinity devotees
@ John 20:17 & 17:3 did Jesus Christ himself reject your claim of John 1:1?
cheesy cheesy
.

Re: How I Made A Jehovah Witness Sweat Till He Fled by chatinent(m): 7:56pm On Nov 20
Preciousgirl:



Jesus is God Himself

Any biblical evidence?

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