Janosky:

John 20:17
Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended. to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God."

Bros, Jesus says you're LYING & DECEIVING yourself .

Janosky:


Bros your ignorance speaks volumes
Source: Biblehub
◄ 32. aggelos ►
Strong's Concordance
aggelos: an angel, messenger
Original Word: ἄγγελος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: aggelos
Phonetic Spelling: (ang'-el-os)
Definition: a messenger, angel
Usage: a messenger, generally a (supernatural) messenger from God, an angel, conveying news or behests from God to men.

John 7:16, (Compare John 15:15)
Jesus says "the doctrines I teach is NOT mine, it belongs to Him who sent me"

Is Jesus Christ an angel (Messenger of God)?

The question: "Which of the angels (Messengers) did God ever say " you sit here on my right"?
Answer: Only one angel (Messenger), Jesus Christ .

brocab:
Even this is slowly closing down-we have bigger things to preach about-it's boring reading page after page-people refusing the truth.. .Especially JW's

brocab:
Even this is slowly closing down-we have bigger things to preach about-it's boring reading page after page-people refusing the truth.. .Especially JW's

. brocab:
The men that had written your bible would lie against the truth-it still deceives you

Janosky:


The truth Jesus revealed @ John 7:16 & 15:15 (Jesus is a Messenger ) is boring to 3 spirits idol worshippers.
Matthew 20:28 & John 3:16, 7:16,15:15 anybody God sent na Messenger (Angel).
Bros, you get Matthew 20:28 & John 3:16, 15:15 ,7:16 for your Bible?

Biblehub is one of your fellow 3 idol spirits worshippers, no dull yourself.

Janosky:


The truth Jesus revealed @ John 7:16 & 15:15 (Jesus is a Messenger ) is boring to 3 spirits idol worshippers.
Matthew 20:28 & John 3:16, 7:16,15:15 anybody God sent na Messenger (Angel).
Bros, you get Matthew 20:28 & John 3:16, 15:15 ,7:16 for your Bible?

Biblehub is one of your fellow 3 idol spirits worshippers, no dull yourself.

Janosky:


The truth Jesus revealed @ John 7:16 & 15:15 (Jesus is a Messenger ) is boring to 3 spirits idol worshippers.
Matthew 20:28 & John 3:16, 7:16,15:15 anybody God sent na Messenger (Angel).
Bros, you get Matthew 20:28 & John 3:16, 15:15 ,7:16 for your Bible?

Biblehub is one of your fellow 3 idol spirits worshippers, no dull yourself.

MaxInDHouse:
I agree with you completely on this so forget about JWs and continue with your evangelism, if JWs say "NO" to your preaching, Jesus never asked his followers to continue worrying themselves over those who will not agree with the teachings, dust your feet against them and move on. Matthew 10:11-15

Leave JWs to face their own judgment!

bingbagbo:
So I was in a tete a tete with this Jehovah witness guy.

Let me state that , JWs teach that Our Lord Jesus Christ is an angel. They claim Jesus is angel Michael. To them, Jesus is not God as the Bible teaches (John 1:1) but rather a god.

So in the course of our interactions, he stated:

Jesus Christ is Now a High Priest in Heaven, just like in the past, Humans (Priests) mediated between man and God so is Jesus doing now in heaven. I loved his explanation because what he stated was very much correct.

Then I asked him: " You say Jesus is a high priest, just like the priests of old, but I know that , the priests of old offered animal sacrifices to God; so in Jesus' case, which animal is He offering to God in Heaven?"

(He couldnt discern where I was leading him to )

Then he quickly replied: "the animal sacrifice Jesus offers in heaven to God now is He Jesus Himself."

Then I burst out laughing

I laughed because he was right yet again.

Then I asked him: "So Jesus is both the High Priest and the Lamb (sacrifice) as well ?"

Then he replied: "Yes!"

Then I told him: "You are so right. This same Jesus is the High Priest, and the lamb and that same God who received the sacrifice."

He took offence.

According to him, that would not make sense. So I asked him if a high priest doubling as the sacrifice made sense to him

That ended out chat

Jesus Christ is the High Priest, the Lamb and God

The message of the cross is foolishness onto those who are perishing, but onto us who are being saved it is the power of God

Glory

jantman:
@bingbagbo
I remember my last argument with one Jehovah witness preacher who claim to be ordain by God to preach the truth.

He told me that Satan is permitted to only roam the earth and that Satan is not doing any harm to mankind.

That is when I know that the devils has cooked the brain of this people

johnw47:
concerning the angels:
Heb 1:14  Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

all angels are spirits.
the messengers of God: Jesus Christ, john the baptist, and the Holy prophets are not spirits/are not angels they are human beings



before becoming man the Lord Jesus Christ was a Spirit/the Word of God
who made all things, who made all the angels, who made everything that was made:

Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Col 1:16  For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 
Col 1:17  And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

^^ it's very clear, except to satan's mob who twist and change God's word to suit their satanic doctrines

Biblehub, your 3 dogheads brethren have proven you TWIST and change God's word to suit your fake doctrines.
Bros, STOP DECEIVING yourselves..

Janosky:

Greek Aggelos (Angel) refers to any Messenger, human or spirit,sent by God.
John 20:21, John 3:16, Jesus Christ and the disciples are angels working for the Almighty God who owns them, John 9:4, 1 Corinthians 3:23.[/b]
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Biblehub, your 3 dogheads brethren have proven you TWIST and change God's word to suit your fake doctrines.
Bros, STOP DECEIVING yourselves..



Bible > Strong's > Greek > 32
◄ 32. aggelos ►
Strong's Concordance
aggelos: an angel, messenger
Original Word: ἄγγελος, ου, ὁ
Part of Speech: Noun, Masculine
Transliteration: aggelos
Phonetic Spelling: (ang'-el-os)
Definition: a messenger, angel
Usage: a messenger, generally a (supernatural) messenger from God, an angel, conveying news or behests from God to men.
HELPS Word-studies
32 ággelos – properly, a messenger or delegate – either human (Mt 11:10; Lk 7:24, 9:52; Gal 4:14; Js 2:25) or heavenly (a celestial angel); someone sent (by God) to proclaim His message.

32 (ággelos) is used 176 times in the NT (usually of heavenly angels), but only the context determines whether a human or celestial messenger is intended. For example, 32 (ággelos) in Rev 1:20 can refer to heavenly angels or key leaders (perhaps pastors) of the seven churches.

32 (ággelos) can refer to "a human messenger" (cf. John the Baptist, Mt 11:10, quoting Mal 3:1; see also Lk 7:24, 9:52).

johnw47:
some wrongly say that Jesus is a angel because the greek aggelos meaning messenger is translated angel

aggelos/greek, and malak in hebrew, is specifically referring to angel messengers of God



those with eyes to see refer to a human messenger of God as just that, a messenger, and not a angel which is a spirit being

this is proper translation of malak and aggelos concerning human messengers

Mal 3:1  Behold, I will send my messenger(malak), and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger(malak) of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.

^^ concerning john the baptist: i will send my messenger,
not: i will send my angel (which is a spirit being)

and concerning the Lord Jesus Christ: even the messenger of the covenant,
not: even the angel of the covenant


Mat 11:10  For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger(aggelos) before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

concerning john the baptist: I send my messenger.
not: i send my angel


concerning angels:
Heb 1:14  Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?

^^ it's clear, all angels are spirits, a human messenger is not a spirit, is not a angel

Janosky:

Daniel 10:13 , your 3 dogheads brethrens studied the Bible passage very well & confirmed that Jesus Christ is Archangel Michael , the Chief angel ("the son of God leading other sons of God, 2 Thess1:7-9. 1 Thess 4:16, Rev 12:7-9)
Please continue DECEIVING yourself.

johnw47:


false jw janosky, running away from my reply to you:

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, [u]shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.[/b]



when aggelos-messangers is referring to angels they are called angels
when aggelos-messangers is referring to men the correct translatioonn is messangers
as i have shown, go back and read my posts oh confused fraud janosky

Mal 3:1 Behold, I will send my messenger(malak), and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger(malak) of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.

^^ concerning john the baptist: i will send my messenger,
not: i will send my angel (which is a spirit being)

and concerning the Lord Jesus Christ: even the messenger of the covenant,
not: even the angel of the covenant


Mat 11:10 For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger(aggelos) before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

concerning john the baptist: I send my messenger.
not: i send my angel

Janosky:


Bros, you love to argue blindly, no be today we know your levels
Biblehub (screenshot) na your 3 idol spirits worshippers deh prove your claim FALSE.

johnw47:

not on topic to the thread, but interisting none the less:

john said in rev 22 verse 6: "the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel" to tell of these things

and Jesus said in verse 16 "it is I Jesus that sent my angel" to tell of these things

Job 38:7 & Revelation 22:16, is Jesus Christ a morning star?
Morning star na angel.
Daniel 10:13, Rev 12:7, 1 Thess 4 16, Jesus Christ leads them .

Bros, no dey DECEIVE yourself

Janosky:


Is Revelation 1:1 missing in your Bible?
The lord God is Yahweh gave Revelation to Jesus his son, WAYO Bros .

Revelation 22:16, Luke 1:31-33, Is Almighty Yahweh the offspring of David?

Job 38:7
"When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?"


Revelation 22:16
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star

Job 38:7 & Revelation 22:16, is Jesus Christ a morning star?
Morning star na angel.
Daniel 10:13, Rev 12:7, 1 Thess 4 16, Jesus Christ leads them .

Bros, no dey DECEIVE yourself

johnw47:

not on topic to the thread, but interisting none the less:

john said in rev 22 verse 6: "the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel" to tell of these things

and Jesus said in verse 16 "it is I Jesus that sent my angel" to tell of these things

jantman:
@bingbagbo
I remember my last argument with one Jehovah witness preacher who claim to be ordain by God to preach the truth.

He told me that Satan is permitted to only roam the earth and that Satan is not doing any harm to mankind.

That is when I know that the devils has cooked the brain of this people

johnw47:


Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool:



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oh duh, so confused false jw janosky

yes Father God gave Revelation to Lord Jesus, and
no Father God is not the offspring of David

fraud janosky ^^ you must be replying to voices in your head


Father God gave revelation to Lord Jesus Christ, and
lord Jesus Christ/lord God of the holy prophets sent it by His angel

it is not two persons Father and Son who each sent their angel to give revelation to john
it is Jesus alone that sent the revelation to john by his angel, oh confused know nothing janosky

Rev 1:1  The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

MaxInDHouse:


There brains has been cooked but at peace with all their fellow believers globally {Micah 4:1-3} unlike religionists whose brains are still very fresh but will pick up weapons to destroy their fellow believers in the face of racism or political struggle under the command of greedy politicians!

Janosky:

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You are repeating my reference to Revelation 1:1 and you FALSELY claim you " must be replying to voices in your head".
This John Bros, you well ?



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John W quote :"Father God gave revelation to Lord Jesus Christ, and
lord Jesus Christ/lord God of the holy prophets sent it by His angel

it is not two persons Father and Son who each sent their angel to give revelation to john"

Bros, Yabaleft is still functional and open to serve you, pls do the needful

johnw47: "Father God gave revelation to Lord Jesus Christ, and
lord Jesus Christ/lord God of the holy prophets sent it by His angel"

"it is not two persons Father and Son who each sent their angel to give revelation to john
it is Jesus alone that sent the revelation to john by his angel"

Janosky:


Is Revelation 1:1 missing in your Bible?
The lord God is Yahweh gave Revelation to Jesus his son, WAYO Bros .

Janosky:
Revelation 22:16, Luke 1:31-33, Is Almighty Yahweh the offspring of David?

Janosky:


Na inside Church the 3 dogheads brethrens dey begin to fight political opponents to get "special blessings & anointing" of political ambition from their gods of men.

They usually fight their GOs/ Popes for the appointment of their own kinsman to Head their Regional Province/Diocese.

When e reach that level, the 'Bishop/ Pastor' of another tribe is not their brethren

Janosky:

Daniel 10:13 , your 3 dogheads brethrens studied the Bible passage very well & confirmed that Jesus Christ is Archangel Michael , the Chief angel ("the son of God leading other sons of God, 2 Thess1:7-9. 1 Thess 4:16, Rev 12:7-9)
Please continue DECEIVING yourself.