@Olu317, I have decided to do a color coding of the different ethno-linguistic groups listed in this manuscript folio by the Timbuktu writer Ahmad Baba in the early 1600s.

This color coding approach will make it easier to reference and compare the Arabic original with the translation prepared by John Huwick and Fatima Harrak for the Institute of African Studies Rabat, Morocco.

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The actual essay of Ahmad Baba from which this folio is extracted (and from where this translation was prepared) is entitled “Mi‘rāj al-Ṣu‘ūd” (for short).

The University of Alberta weblink below goes to the full translation of this particular essay with page 39 being the actual page in question here.

http://www.artsrn.ualberta.ca/amcdouga/Hist347/autumn%202012/additional%20readings/ahmad_baba.pdf

Also, the World Digital Library weblink below goes to the full original manuscripts of this particular essay with the folio number 15 being the particular folio in question here.

https://www.wdl.org/en/item/9661/view/1/1/

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TAO11:
REPOSTING!

Reference to the ethno-linguistic group of people called Yoruba appears in at least one of the early 1600s essays of the Timbuktu scholar, Ahmad Baba.

The embedded screenshot below shows page 39 of the English translation of Ahmad Baba’s replies on slavery which he entitled “Mi‘rāj al-Su‘ūd”.
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This specific translation shown here is by John Hunwick and Fatima Harrak for the Institute of African Studies Rabat, Morocco – this is part of the ongoing program aimed at preserving his corpus of old Arabic manuscripts.

The link below shows more pages of this particular translation of his old Arabic essay from the University of Alberta, Canada.

http://www.artsrn.ualberta.ca/amcdouga/Hist347/autumn%202012/additional%20readings/ahmad_baba.pdf

Moreover, the embedded screenshot below shows the actual folio from where the translators have done their translation — showing the list of the ethno-linguistic groups, with Baba’s Arabic original of the name “Yoruba” particularly highlighted.
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The link below goes to some more folios of this same manuscript where this particular folio is also present.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/The_Ladder_of_Ascent_in_Obtaining_the_Procurements_of_the_Sudan-_Ahmad_Baba_Answers_a_Moroccan’s_Questions_about_Slavery_WDL9661.pdf


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Can you see why I said some Yoruba and especially you Tao is not smart. You come up with your nonsense citations and references knowing that most people don't examine them.

I have just gone through your so called year 2000 translation of a supposed 16th century Islamic text and found references to Ade Ajayi and Ajayi Crowder. Why would a supposed simple translation from 16th century Arabic text to English reference a 18th century Ade Ajayi and Ajayi Crowder. Were these figures in existence in the 16th century when these supposed Arabic text where written?

Obviously the Yoruba in the text came from late 18th century inputs of Ajayi Crowder not the original Arabic text the same way modern interpretations of Benin kings in Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, etc are written down today as Oba.

I will like to see the original 16th century Arabic text that states Yoruba. I can get it interpreted by the Arabs around me.

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The bolded was my request and the original Arabic text was provided, I have now independently examined the original so called 16th century Arabic text and it doesn't contain the word or name Yoruba

My fellow Nairalanders:

Below is how Yoruba and Yod are written in Arabic.

English : Arabic

Yoruba : اليوروبا

Yod : يود

What seems to have been written on the Arabic text is Yod. Not Yoruba as being claimed by the Fraudulent and liar Tao.

Please you guys can check the highlighted part of the Arabic page provided by Tao and compare the Arabic text with اليوروبا which is how Yoruba is written in Arabic, you will discover that what she highlighted can't possibly be Yoruba.

You guys can check this out yourself on Google translation of English to Arabic. Type Yoruba on the English part and see the translation in Arabic.

I have long said all her Arabic, Coptic translations were Frauds this just proves it.

The Fraud and Pinocchio has been busted, Pants on Fire.

I rest my case. Case Closed.

Me: Posts Translation of Ahmad Baba’s work showing the word “Yoruba” in the actual body of the work.

Samuk The footnotes shows the name of Ade Ajayi, Micheal Crowder, et al. Haha! I catch you.

Me: Are you intentionally disgracing Benin Kingdom or this is truly your first time encountering the word “footnote” ?? LMAO!

Still-Me: Do you have a Bible (in English)? If you do, then that’s a translation of an old work.

The footnotes in that Bible translation are not there for the purpose of punishing BeniN kInGdOm. ROTFL

Samuk (silently): Shit! I’m dumb!

Samuk Again: Oya, show me the original Arabic, I will tell the “Arabs around me” to point out “Yoruba” there to me. In other words, I don’t know Arabic.

Samuk Later: I independently examined the Arabic, and I can’t find Yoruba there. Haha!

Me (rolling my eyes): I thought Samuk doesn’t know Arabic, and that “Arabs around ... [him]” will do the job. Hahaha!

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samuk:

English : Arabic

Yoruba : اليوروبا

Please you guys can check the highlighted part of the Arabic page provided by Tao and compare the Arabic text with اليوروبا which is how Yoruba is written in Arabic, you will discover that what she highlighted can't possibly be Yoruba.

The Fraud-Rep of Benin Kingdom, aka Samuk.

Unfortunately (for you), the word you posted from google translate is Alyuruba not Yoruba See embedded below for evidence.

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However, Ahmad Baba instead wrote Yoruba which is as shown in the manuscript and the translation by reputed University scholars.

You’ve just been busted again as always. You do not get tired of being disgraced. Do you?

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You typed "Yoruba" into Google translate, and Google translate disclaimed to you that the Arabic equivalence within its database is of the word "Alyuruba".

Yet you adamantly ran along (lying to yourself) that Google translate returned an equivalent of the word "Yoruba". If only Google translate could slap humans.

In the embedded screenshot below, the input ["Yoruba"] you fed into Google translate is highlighted in green.

The disclaimer ["Alyuruba"] issued as a warning to you by Google translate is highlighted in red.

And the Arabic equivalence of "Alyuruba" is highlighted in blue.

Samuk-The-Fraud, I think the "Arabs around ... [you]" should do the job.

Now crawl back into your hole, and cry yourself to sleep just as you do every night.

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Since, you’ve murdered sleep consider the following exercise:

Just as we have shown a text from the early 1600s depicting the the name of our ethno-linguistic group, ”Yoruba”.

Can we also see a text from the same period (or even late 1600s) which shows the name of your ethno-linguistic group ”Edo”??

Now, na to dey luku-luku.

TAO12:
Since, you’ve murdered sleep consider the following exercise:

Just as we have shown a text from the early 1600s depicting the the name of our ethno-linguistic group, Yoruba.

Can we also see a text from the same period (or even late 1600s) which shows the name of your ethno-linguistic group Edo??

Now, na to dey luku-luku.

I actually proved that the word Yoruba didn't exist in the 16th century. Your so called 16th century Arabic translation has just be proven for the world to see as Fraud.

Only dummies will take your so called Arabic, Coptic translations serious going forward.

I repeat, the word or name, Yoruba didn't exist until 1808.

samuk:
I actually proved that the word Yoruba didn't exist in the 16th century. Your so called 16th century Arabic translation has just be proven for the world to see as Fraud.

Only dummies will take your so called Arabic, Coptic translations serious going forward.

I repeat, the word or name, Yoruba didn't exist until 1808.

Samuk-The-Fraud, you are generalizing hastily (that every human being is a dullard) based on your interactions with Binis. ROTFL!

No! Unlike Binis, everyone else isn’t a dullard. You desperately wish the word “Yoruba” began in 1808. Don’t you? But what about the fact that wishes aren’t horses?? LMAO!

You typed in "Yoruba" into Google translate, and Google translate immediately disclaimed to you that the Arabic equivalence within its database is of the word "Alyuruba".

Yet you adamantly ran along (lying to yourself) that Google translate returned an Arabic equivalence of the word "Yoruba". If only Google translate could slap humans.

In the embedded screenshot below, the input ["Yoruba"] which you fed into Google translate is highlighted in green.

The disclaimer ["Alyuruba"] issued as a warning to you by Google translate is highlighted in red.

And the Arabic equivalence of the disclaimer ["Alyuruba"] is highlighted in blue.

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Samuk-The-Fraud, I think the "Arabs around ... [you]" should do the job as you’ve initially consoled yourself. Hahaha!

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Samuk -The Fraud;

Since, you’ve murdered sleep consider the following exercise:

Just as we have shown a text from the early 1600s depicting the name of our ethno-linguistic group, ”Yoruba”.

Can we also see a text from the same period (or even the late 1600s) which shows the name of your ethno-linguistic group ”Edo”??

Now, na to dey luku-luku.

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TAO12:
Samuk -The Fraud;

Since, you’ve murdered sleep consider the following exercise:

Just as we have shown a text from the early 1600s depicting the the name of our ethno-linguistic group, Yoruba.

Can we also see a text from the same period (or even the late 1600s) which shows the name of your ethno-linguistic group Edo??

Now, na to dey luku-luku.

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U r the best

TAO12:
Since, you’ve murdered sleep consider the following exercise:

Just as we have shown a text from the early 1600s depicting the the name of our ethno-linguistic group, ”Yoruba”.

Can we also see a text from the same period (or even late 1600s) which shows the name of your ethno-linguistic group ”Edo”??

Now, na to dey luku-luku.

Do you know why TAO1 ?

It is because till the 19th Century the Edo were Classified as Yorubas.

The Oba of Benin is of undisputed Yoruba Origin

Christistruth00:


[s]Do you know why TAO1 ?

It is because till the 19th Century the Bini were Classified as Yorubas[/s].

And they suddenly developed a language distinct from Yoruba language...

Take ur drugs

Etinosa1234:


And they suddenly developed a language distinct from Yoruba language...

Take ur drugs

The Oba of Benin is of undisputable Yoruba Origin

With all humility the Oba of Benin is a Yoruba King



Ooni is the one in the Center.


Photo: Yoruba Obas 1937.


From the Yorubas Obas conference 1937 proceedings
Hosted by Sir Bernard Boudillon Governor General of Nigeria
on 31st March and 1st April 1937



Quoting last paragraph of first page:

“The Chiefs were seated in a horse-shoe formation, with the Oni of Ife ,as the head of the town from which all Yorubas have traditionally sprung , at the centre ,and the Alaafin of Oyo at the western and the Oba of benin at the eastern end, an arrangement which gave general satisfaction.

Christistruth00:


[s]The Oba of Benin is of undisputable Yoruba Origin[/s]

Tell that to Erediauwa

Etinosa1234:


Tell that to Erediauwa

With all humility the Oba of Benin is a Yoruba King even the British know it ..

Christistruth00:


With all humility the Oba of Benin is a Yoruba King even the British know it ..

I guess the Sultan and the emir are Yoruba kings also... Ooo.. the Alaafin is not there... Isn't he a Yoruba king?

Etinosa1234:


I guess the Sultan and the emir are Yoruba kings also... Ooo.. the Alaafin is not there... Isn't he a Yoruba king?

Pele, I hope the Shock wasn't too much for you

Christistruth00:


Pele, I hope the Shock wasn't too much for you

It was too much Bros...Esp as u have reduced the Alaafin to nothingness with ur logic

Etinosa1234:


It was too much Bros...Esp as u have reduced the Alaafin to nothingness with ur logic

Guy, why do you always expose the stupidity of their logical nonsense.

It's not just the Alaafin that was reduced to nothingness by his photograph, all other over 1000 Yoruba Obas were reduced to insignificance.

The other one produce an Arabic text that shows the word Yod and claim it to be Yoruba, not knowing we live in computer age and can easily be checked out.
Below is how Yoruba and Yod are written in Arabic.

English : Arabic

Yoruba : اليوروبا

Yod : يود

Christistruth00:


Do you know why TAO1 ?

It is because till the 19th Century the Edo were Classified as Yorubas.

The Oba of Benin but is of undisputed Yoruba Origin

Can you prove these


You better go and enlighten yourself on my profile

Or swear thunder go fire you, if you dey talk nonsense

Christistruth00:


With all humility the Oba of Benin is a Yoruba King even the British know it ..

How did the British know these, can you show me a document the British highlighted it

Christistruth00:


Pele, I hope the Shock wasn't too much for you

You are a fool, if you're older than 30 then you have issues

Samuk....is confused right now

Balogunodua:
Samuk....is confused right now

Even his brother, Etinosa (who is his last hope of deception) will be looking at him like:

Samuk you well so?? To collect disgrace no dey tire you??

Yod ko, Yoghurt ni.

TAO12:
Even his brother, Etinosa (who is his last hope of deception) will be looking at him like:

Samuk you well so?? To collect disgrace no dey tire you??

Yod ko, Yoghurt ni.

I wonder where Yod is in the text you provided ABI na me no see am well no or

Balogunodua:
I wonder where Yod is in the text you provided ABI na me no see am well no or

He’s only testing the waters to see how far he can go with his latest attempt at self-consolation.

To be very apt, he’s only being insecure. It’s written all over his life. The name “Edo” of his people wasn’t known in writing until recently.

Yet you want him to admit the plain fact starring hard at his face showing that “Yoruba” appears in writing since the year 1615.

A Bini boy with a naturally huge baggage of inferiority complex for that matter. We’re clearly asking him for too much.

I think he broke what may be called the first rule of academics: “Thou shall not punch beyond your ‘intellectual’ weight”.

May be he’d learn to eventually resort to his first self-consolation — which is, to let the “the Arabs around ... [him]” do their job.

Especially since (according to him) we must not trust the academic judgement of the University of Alberta, Canada and the Institute of African Studies, Rabat Morocco.

TAO12:
He’s only testing the waters to see how far he can go with his new propaganda.

He broke what may be called the first rule of academics:

Though shall not punch beyond your ‘intellectual’ weight.

May be he’d learn to eventually resort to his first consolation of letting the “the Arabs around ... [him]” do their job.

I will be waiting to see what he comes up with after he consults the Arabs around him....

Balogunodua:

I will be waiting to see what he comes up with after he consults the Arabs around him....

Haha! STOP!

weldone Tao11, weldone balogunodua, you guys really rock,for now, reading comments and learning new truths is my hubby

Ideadoctor:
weldone Tao11, weldone balogunodua, you guys really rock,for now, reading comments and learning new lies is my hubby

I see

TAO12:
Haha! STOP!

I heard there are many Arabs allover Edo state... it's a secret o..Mafo

gregyboy:



I see

.
Wailer...

Balogunodua:
I heard their are many Arabs allover Edo state... it's a secret o..Mafo

You guys should stop. This is not fair.