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Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by gregyboy(m): 6:15pm On May 08
davidnazee:


What do u mean Benin never had tribal marks and it was recent development borrowed from other tribes?
Markings on bodies are mostly medicinal and tattoos.

Tribal/facial marks are mostly no longer done.. so if it is recent development as u say then it didn't last long because most edos born after 80s dont have facial markings.


Young man check all our bronze artwork if you see tribal marks let me know


The marks you will see are iwu and iwu are not tribal marks but tattoo markings

Tribal marks in benin was adopted after the empire fell

Benin men in the olden days didnt wear shirt and this iwu markings were mostly done on the chest downward so a benin man from afar could be recognized

The medicinal one you're talking about is different from iwu and tribal markings


If you keep observing this little things it would give you a clue on unlocking others
Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by Fezz: 8:19pm On May 08
davidnazee:


He listened to the full speech, just don't want to accept that their great Oduduwa was an exiled Edo prince.. he puts his pride before his senses..

Hahahaha!... don't mind them kiss
Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by Fezz: 8:27pm On May 08
Jagunlabiodua:


Benin and IFE history dates back to More than 1000 years, why are you people so ignorant and stupid, a Yoruba man OBA is Benin king and Benin are Yoruba people speaking different dialects. There language is similar to Yoruba dialects. You now know more than a whole OBA of Benin, what sort of arrogance is this? Are you normal, do you think this people don’t have family history that they pass orally to offsprings? Do you know the secrets behind the crown? Don’t come here and say you know the history of Benin more than the King, it is Nigeria north that divided Benin and Yoruba for politics, OBA of Benin is a Yoruba king period. All OBAs in Yorubaland throw banter on who is superior but they know their history better than you

Benin speak edoid dialect while yorubas speak yoruboid dialect. There is a big difference so get that straight. A Benin man will understand naturally what an Esan or urohbo man is saying, he will never understand what a Yoruba man is saying unless he learns the yoruba language. Edoid and yoruboid dialects are totally different which means the people are different as well. The only thing that brings us together is the proximity of our lands, we are neighbours.
Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by davidnazee: 12:12am On May 09
gregyboy:



Young man check all our bronze artwork if you see tribal marks let me know


The marks you will see are iwu and iwu are not tribal marks but tattoo markings

Tribal marks in benin was adopted after the empire fell

Benin men in the olden days didnt wear shirt and this iwu markings were mostly done on the chest downward so a benin man from afar could be recognized

The medicinal one you're talking about is different from iwu and tribal markings


If you keep observing this little things it would give you a clue on unlocking others

So do you have a picture of what the body markings look? Who did they copy the facial markings from?
Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by TAO11(f): 1:43am On May 09
Tribal marks (on the cheeks) shown on classical Benin bronzes?? See attached.

Moreover, virtually all classical Benin bronzes show tribal marks (on the forehead or/and above the eye brows).

#JustSaying cheesy

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Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by gregyboy(m): 6:01am On May 09
davidnazee:


So do you have a picture of what the body markings look? Who did they copy the facial markings from?


After we began wearing shirt and our iwu was covered by our clothes there was need to show tribal identification


We copied it from other tribes in Nigeria, they were many tribe who had this tribal markings
Igbo, yoruba, Northerners etc so we just copied from them

Still not everyone had it
Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by gregyboy(m): 6:16am On May 09
TAO11:
Tribal marks (on the cheeks) shown on classical Benin bronzes?? See attached.

Moreover, virtually all classical Benin bronzes show tribal marks (on the forehead or/and above the eye brows).

#JustSaying cheesy


This were benin designed bronze but were not
Showing or depicting benin people


Benin depicted ibos in their artworks
Depicted igalas in their artworks

Those particular bronze were depicting the ogene messenger who would come to give the oba of benin cross and staff


I hate your deceitful attitude TAO11 i dislike so much, you know the obvious explanation on this very bronze but yet you want to fool those who dont know and stress me out explaining the already known obvious


Davidnazee, this bronze are not men from benin


There are pictures and painting of benin people after the destruction of benin you wont find any tribal markings on the face of any benin person i dont want to go the ectra mile bringing those pictures out


Example are picture of oba ovaramen and his captured chiefs, look at their face and tell me if you will see any tribal markings on them
Look throughout benin document by European describing benin kings and chiefs if you will see any talks on tribal marks on edo people face, europeans sat in the palace in the olds to take document about bini
Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by Olu317(m): 6:50am On May 09
gregyboy:



Young man check all our bronze artwork if you see tribal marks let me know


The marks you will see are iwu and iwu are not tribal marks but tattoo markings

Tribal marks in benin was adopted after the empire fell

Benin men in the olden days didnt wear shirt and this iwu markings were mostly done on the chest downward so a benin man from afar could be recognized

The medicinal one you're talking about is different from iwu and tribal markings


If you keep observing this little things it would give you a clue on unlocking others
Iwu marking is what is part of tribal marks. Tribal marks means, marks imprinted on each person,within same group of people who share share same culture ,share historical affinity, same belief and related by bloodline. So, dont confuse yoirself over English word, 'Tribal Mark'.

Edo people anciently had tribal marks.

Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by gregyboy(m): 6:52am On May 09
Olu317:
Iwu marking is what is part of tribal marks. Tribal marks means, marks imprinted on each person,within same group of people who share share same culture ,share historical affinity, same belief and related by bloodline. So, dont confuse yoirself over English word, 'Tribal Mark'.

Edo people anciently had tribal marks.


I will call ours tribal tattoos
Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by Olu317(m): 7:00am On May 09
gregyboy:



I will call ours tribal tattoos
Lol. The earlier screenshot is,also a tattoo ? You are a joke. Enjoy yourself.

Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by TAO11(f): 7:07am On May 09
gregyboy:
This were benin designed bronze but were not
Showing or depicting benin people
Benin depicted ibos in their artworks
Depicted igalas in their artworks
Those particular bronze were depicting the ogene messenger who would come to give the oba of benin cross and staffI hate your deceitful attitude TAO11 i dislike so much, you know the obvious explanation on this very bronze but yet you want to fool those who dont know and stress me out explaining the already known obvious, this bronze are not men from beninThere are pictures and painting of benin people after the destruction of benin you wont find any tribal markings on the face of any benin person i dont want to go the ectra mile bringing those pictures outExample are picture of oba ovaramen and his captured chiefs, look at their face and tell me if you will see any tribal markings on them
Look throughout benin document by European describing benin kings and chiefs if you will see any talks on tribal marks on edo people face, europeans sat in the palace in the olds to take document about bini
Copied & Pasted below:

“Tribal marks (on the cheeks) shown on classical Benin bronzes?? See attached.

Moreover, virtually all classical Benin bronzes show tribal marks (on the forehead or/and above the eye brows).

#JustSaying cheesy

Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by gregyboy(m): 7:25am On May 09
Olu317:
Lol. The earlier screenshot is,also a tattoo ? You are a joke. Enjoy yourself.


Those markings are tatoo linings, and stop making me talk... Abeg make una dry, use sense

Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by gregyboy(m): 7:29am On May 09
TAO11:
Copied & Pasted below:

“Tribal marks (on the cheeks) shown on classical Benin bronzes?? See attached.

Moreover, virtually all classical Benin bronzes show tribal marks (on the forehead or/and above the eye brows).

#JustSaying cheesy


Those are iwu markings(tatoo marks) and not tribal marks which involve flseh cut


Do you see it in oba ovaramens face because it is only worn on festive period and clean able

The bronze sculpture with the tribsl marks on the fsce gives it out that the person depicted on that artwork was from another tribe


I wont be commenting on this any further

Etrusen.... I guess you will have ideas on benin markings

Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by gregyboy(m): 7:37am On May 09
Olu317:
Iwu marking is what is part of tribal marks. Tribal marks means, marks imprinted on each person,within same group of people who share share same culture ,share historical affinity, same belief and related by bloodline. So, dont confuse yoirself over English word, 'Tribal Mark'.

Edo people anciently had tribal marks.


Body tatooed markings which waz still present when i was groeing up women used it for beautification


Tatoo markings which benins called iwu was worn only on festive period during age grade, then after the empire fell in the new country Nigeria then it was worn by benin women for beautification

The iwu markings are cleanable


Tribal marks are cut done on flesh, this are tribal babaric markings on the pics below

Probably the English is confusing you guys

Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by TAO11(f): 7:39am On May 09
gregyboy:
Those are iwu markings(tatoo marks) and not tribal marks which involve flseh cutDo you see it in oba ovaramens face because it is only worn on festive period and clean ableThe bronze sculpture with the tribsl marks on the fsce gives it out that the person depicted on that artwork was from another tribe I wont be commenting on this any further Etrusen.... I guess you will have ideas on benin markings
If believing your own lies helps you sleep at night, then carry go. cheesy

Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by gregyboy(m): 7:39am On May 09
Olu317:
Lol. The earlier screenshot is,also a tattoo ? You are a joke. Enjoy yourself.

You wont see any of such markings in benin currently on that bronze

The tribal marks benin adopted

Is two straight marks on the both side of the cheek
Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by gregyboy(m): 7:45am On May 09
TAO11:
If believing your own lies helps you sleep at night, then carry go. cheesy

The English is the confusion here

Lets assume all, marks are called tribal marks regardless of the procedures

Types of tribal marks
*Scarification(cat marks, afonjaristic marks)
*Tatoo marks(iwu)


Benin had tatoo marks, untill recently they adopted scarification done by other tribe

My point here is if the oba was from ife he probably would be having ife scarification on hos face as a sign he is from the ife clan of yoruba
Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by TAO11(f): 7:45am On May 09
gregyboy:
The English is the confusion hereLets assume all, marks are called tribal marks regardless of the proceduresTypes of tribal marks
*Scarification(cat marks, afonjaristic marks)
*Tatoo marks(iwu) Benin had tatoo marks, untill recently they adopted scarification done by other tribeMy point here is if the oba was from ife he probably would be having ife scarification on hos face as a sign he is from the ife clan of yoruba

Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by rhektor(m): 11:33am On May 09
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This is total K.O cheesy grin shocked shocked shocked

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Re: The name benin and her origin Benin-ife Conspiracy by Juliusmalema: 10:04pm On May 11
gregyboy:



After we began wearing clothes an our iwu was covered by our clothes there was nees to show tribal identification


We copied it from other tribes in Nigeria, they were many tribe who had tgis tribal markings
Igbo, yoruba, Northerners etc so we just copied them



Fixed.

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