BeLookingIDIOT:

Be truthful to yourself. In any brothel in Yoruba land,what percentage do you notice are Igbos

BeLookingIDIOT:

Be truthful to yourself. In any brothel in Yoruba land,what percentage do you notice are Igbos

BENEAMATA:
Amen , thanks for the early morning prayer .
Speaking of which , everyone that is alright won't interprete the sambarry I use to mean anything less than SOMEBODY in adding a funny , street slang to my post and definitely not your own clearly SAMBARRY written in capital letters . Gone back to the original post to modify anyway , good morning , hope you had a good night sleep ? We thank God .

RisenPhoenix1:


The same old tired clichés:

"Women are soft and cuddly things and should not be held to account for their pretence and deceit. Look how cute they are and how vulnerable in front of all those big strong men who seduce and overpower them into bed and later abandon them. They are forced to protect themselves from their illicit wildcat pregnancies by deceiving their husbands. Totally not their faults, but the faults of those men who seduced them in the first place".

OChimex:


The statistics are from the number of people that have done the test.

It is called sampling techniques in statistical analysis where you can use a smaller sample figure to arrive at a result.

This technique is also usually used to count animals or insects in the bush

WoundedLamb:


It would be great if you could point out the part of my post that slightly suggests it's not the woman's fault but the man's fault. I believe the problem here is that most of you are intricately wired to be combative and defensive. You're all bent on presenting men as infallible and anyone that tries to shed light on the men's contribution to the societal menace is automatically an enemy that must be attacked.

I presented the logic behind my perspective. You could have presented a counter logic if you had any. But you'd rather degenerate the discussion into the usual Nairaland tastless, testosterone driven, frivolous discussion, and I'm not good at that. I said when two people have sex, both should be held accountable and not just the one that got pregnant. I believe that was clear enough.

Regex:


What do you it's only women that get pregnant hence not an equal playing ground?

Do you stand in the middle of the road so that you can blame a car for hitting you? You are very much aware if a car hit you, you'd be dead hence your need for safety. There are measures to take for this case of pregnancy in women which is called protection (condom, contraceptives and morning after pills) that are accessible to women. What stops those married women from taking those drugs?

You are making it look as if it's men responsibility for women not to get pregnant against their wish. It's a not so OK.

When it comes to sex and flaunting body parts, it becomes "It's my body" , but when it comes to the consequences, men have to take responsibility of a body that isn't his.

WoundedLamb:


When you two consenting adults have sex, both should be held accountable. This is the summary of everything I said. I'm not blaming the man alone.Your analogy is a bit off cause that would be an accident (at least for one of the parties) except you're saying the driver and the person on the road agreed to orchestrate the entire thing. I am, nevertheless, not surprised by that analogy cause that's exactly the picture the guys onhere try to paint. Y'all present men as the innocent driver who accidentally hit on a careless or suicidal road user.

Sexual relationship, on the other hand, is not an accident. It's a consensual activity between two parties who had options but decided to do it. By hinging your blame on getting pregnant alone, you're making it look as if a woman having sex with another man is no longer the problem provided she doesn't get pregnant. We both know that's not case. The root problem is the sex between a married person and another who isn't the spouse. The pregnancy phase is only a consequence of that action. Starting your blame from that phase would only be a deliberate attempt to exonerate the parties involved in the first phase cause you believe one party can be held culpable as far as getting pregnant is concerned. But even at that, I believe both parties share the responsibility of avoiding unwanted pregnancy. The man could use condom, the woman could take drugs. I agree only the woman bears the consequences but I don't see anything wrong in blaming these parties for the consequences of their action.

RisenPhoenix1:


Your logic was clear enough, but you shifted the goal post, for the sole purpose of bringing the lover into the scene and holding him equally culpable for the crime of paternity fraud; which is entirely fallacious. The argument is not about finding the guilty party in the act of extra marital sex; obviously both are guilty there; no question. The argument is all about finding the guilty party in paternity fraud, which is the subject of this thread. The 'logic' you presented was about an entirely different crime altogether, and you deceitfully tried to portray the man as guilty of the second crime by association. Your actual 'logic' was; "he was guilty of the first crime, and the first crime led to a situation, which led to the second crime. Therefore, he must be guilty of the second crime as well". False, ma! ... and maybe if I show you why, you can have more faith in the logic behind tasteless, testosterone filled Nairaland responses.

Let me give you an analogy. I persuade you to go to a bar with me pay for lots of drinks. We both get roaring drunk; which is a natural known consequence of so many shots of expensive vodka. Afterwards, YOU choose to drive back home, subsequently get into an accident and run over a pedestrian, killing him. Now question for you: Am I also guilty of negligent manslaughter because I drank with you, and even bought you drinks?
Now reapply your logic here. The answer is...

Regex:


Why shouldn't I blame both parties? Why shouldn't I blame the married woman more? Is a married woman supposed to break her marital vows?

If the man refuses to use condom, then the woman should be blamed for having that sex when she could insist on "the no condom no sex". Let's first look at STDs that could kill and restrict one like HIV.

I don't understand how a woman could insist you first provide her with whatever she is willing to exchange with sex but would never insist on condom or contraceptive. Na wa oh.

cooltola:
30 % of all Nigerians mothers have 2 baby daddies or more according to statistics Was the DNA sample obtained at the government hospitals, private hospitals? How long was the test taken? 1 year, 1 day , 1 month ? Too many questions on how such results were obtained.

abbey621:
Lies from the pit of hell! As an educated person ask yourself, where is the study? How was it conducted? What was the sampling methodology used? Because if you only sampled 100 households to make a conclusion that 4 out of 10 Nigerian men are raising illegitimate children then you're a damn fool. To further compound the problem, let's even assume the data is correct, where is the result of the same study conducted in multiple countries to formulate the appropriate ranking.

I'm not even going to talk about the USA where shows like Maury expose the high rate of paternity fraud in the society. As Nigerians, let us not let these sketchy studies paint us abnormal, do your own research, too many fake agents of doom out there!

GofuckYourself:


I have a friend who is a doctor she told me some years ago .. 3 out of 5 men are raising kids not theirs she is a pediatrician

So I believe this stats

dre11:



https://www.vanguardngr.com/2021/01/nigeria-ranks-2nd-highest-in-paternity-fraud-in-the-world/