obonujoker:


Second death means you'd cease to exist before God and other living things at the time... Those in the 2nd death with be suffering and tormented forever and ever.

The death there means to be forgotten forever and forever.... Only those whose names aren't in the lamb's book of Life will be thrown there Sir...

So no need to fear

aribisala0:
God explained this on Twitter?

obonujoker:



2nd death means to be cast into the lake of fire which burns eternally

aribisala0:
That is your own opinion

So Lazarus is in the lake of fire now?

obonujoker:


No no Sir... No one is in the lake of fire now...

Everyone dead is resting.... Some are resting in glory, and some are already seeing the fearful sights of what awaits them after the final resurrection at the great white throne judgement.

The most important thing is to die in Jesus when someone time is up on this Earth... Once you die in Jesus, then you are free....

aribisala0:
Why not

MaxInDHouse:
God never created any place to torment living creatures, his plan was for creatures to live and enjoy life as long as possible. Creatures made in his image are the most privileged, if they brings him praise they will be allowed to live forever.
But if not they'll have to return to non-existence! Genesis 1:26-28; 2:17; 3:19
Hell simply means Grave that's why all people go there whether good or evil Job, Jesus and many other servants of God reportedly went to hell.
Gehenna or Lake of Fire is a symbol of complete annihilation where those who died would never be remembered.
Those dead and eating by wild animals will rise, those drowned in the sea or eating by the fish will rise and of course those buried and rotten in hell (grave) will also rise. After the final judgement some who qualified will be permitted to live forever while those who aren't qualified will return to non-existence never to be remembered again! Revelations 20;11-15

Tormenting living creatures never came to God's heart {Jeremiah 7:31, 19:5} Gehenna or Lake of Fire is just a symbol of everlasting destruction!

Thanks for the opportunity given Sir, God bless you!

aribisala0:
Very Interesting

Is this God you are talking about the Jewish Jehovah or the God of Black Africans like me

MaxInDHouse:
That is a totally different topic all together, that will take us more than just few posts to resolve.

The Hellfire, Lake of Fire or Gehenna you talked about was written in the Bible (a history book by Jews) not Africans nah!

So if you want Africans version of God's decision on evildoers you have to go and ask African religionists not the Bible or Bible believers!

aribisala0:

Thanks for clarifying because I understand the Bible talks about Jehovah not the God that my ancestors know and I think you said you are a Jehovah witness.
So that Lake of Fire is not for Yoruba people

aribisala0:
Resting?
How do you know this?

sonmvayina:
The torah says "in thebeginning God created heaven and earth....
And it went on to say God compmeted his creation after 6 days and rested on the seventh. There is no record that he continued creation on the 8th day or 9th day
...so which of those days was hell created.

From there till Malachi, there is no mention of God creating anything again as he gave humans that power.

So instead of us to find ways to make life easy and swèet for ouraelves we are busy frightening people with the idea of hell.. Nah ogun go punish those yeye Romans wey create jesus and put all those mumu talk for him mouth..come dey pass am as truth.