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|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by budaatum: 6:21pm On Jun 07, 2021
I don't know. I'll email to find out.
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by BassReeves: 8:00pm On Jun 07, 2021
LordReed:1. What didnt happen?
2. Are you saying that Adam and Eve didnt immediately experience spiritual death?
3. Are you insinuating that it wasn't in that day that Adam and Eve stopped living?
4. Are you saying that in that day Adam and Eve ate of the fruit, they surely didnt become a living dead or walking dead?
5. Are you saying the spirit man in Adam didnt die (i.e. severance of its links with the Spirit, that God is)
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by budaatum: 8:45pm On Jun 07, 2021
BassReeves:The entire story never happened! As Sonmvayina rightly said, a story to teach humans a lesson.
BassReeves:Not only did Adam and Eve not experience spiritual death, or any death for that matter, on the day that they ate the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, their eyes opened, they gained Wisdom, they were freed from slavery, they produced billions of offsprings, and they lived for 900 or so years!
God, please, if that is spiritual death, give me now because I buda would love to spiritually die and achieve what Adam and Eve achieved, though please note that I am willing to settle for just the eye opening and the Wisdom like Wise Solomon did.
Thank you Lord God Almighty in advance.
BassReeves:Of course they did not stop living! As said above, and as you too have clearly read, they ate the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil when they were barely 120 years old and went on to live until they were 900 or so years during which they populated the earth with what has resulted in your very own self (according to Biblical understanding I better add!).
BassReeves:Seriously, Bass, but how many times and ways do you intend to ask the same question? Can the living dead or walking dead produce the billions of fruits that Adam and Eve produced?
BassReeves:By God, you really are tiring in your attempt to avoid accepting what you can see with your own eyes Bass. Please tell me if you think any human being whose spiritual and or physical link with God is severed can achieve all that Adam and Eve achieved! Do you seriously think Christ lied when he said the father in heaven would not ever forsake its sheep, much less the very first created humans? Or you think they could have achieved all they did if [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%20127&version=ESV]God had not built the house and watched over them[/url]?
Sorry, my Lord for jumping in to answer this. As you can see, I could not resist the temptation.
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by Dtruthspeaker: 9:45pm On Jun 07, 2021
See how foolish you are and can be? It is A Fool who will think that what you said is and was an intelligent move.
Without hesitation, anything Including A man in the form or clothing of a Snake will be KILLED ON SIGHT! No Questions asked, for he will be thought An Anaconda, Python or Boa Constrictor!
Have the last word!
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|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by budaatum: 9:57pm On Jun 07, 2021
It has nothing to do with the last word dt. But with understanding. I must however say that you have not said anything worth responding to here apart from my mention of your devious last word having tactic that you think would shut buda up.
But as is usual, till you quote buda again, the Peace of the Lord be with you.
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by BassReeves: 10:36pm On Jun 07, 2021
budaatum:1. What exactly did happen then?
2. What lesson did Sonmvayina rightly said, about 'The entire story that never happened!' teach humans then?
budaatum:You open your mouth in vain and multiplies words without good knowledge. Your words lack insight and it shows as you obscure the word(s) of God without good knowledge nor sound judgment
Adam and Eve were freeborns, it was folly that confined them into slavery
budaatum:From the onset, they were mandated and blessed as templates, prototypes to copulate, procreate, multiply etc
budaatum:Oh yeah, they lived that long before physical death caught up with them
budaatum:God gave Solomon wisdom because he directly asked for it. Eve didnt ask God for wisdom and be granted it, she stole a fruit off a tree that doesn't give wisdom, but only gives duality experience of everything thats good and thats evil. Eve didnt ask God for wisdom, she stole what you assumed would give her wisdom. Solomon, justifying his request, with good reasons, asked God for wisdom and God in large and generous amounts gave him it and more.
Except you're reborn from above, meaning become spiritually transformed, renewed, sanctified, your false and hollow prayer is in vain
budaatum:They stopped living being spiritually alive immediately after the moment of eating the fruit. Sin is a dividing line. It causes cessation, cessation of the spiritual connection or link with God
budaatum:Excuse me I beg your pardon
Oga this your story nor dey hang gan. This your fabu e dey mad gan. Embellishing the narrative, just as the father of lies did with Eve. Wehdone Sir!
budaatum:budaatum seriously, we die immediately from the moment we are born. Do you know how many cells inside you, right now, died? About 300 million cells die every minute in our bodies, that means in one day, approximately 1.2 kg of cells die. Now when this along with other things take their toll, that's when the Grim Reaper aka Angel of Death shows up at the doorstep for harvest. You're a living dead or walking dead
budaatum:Stay focused budaatum, you're all over the place, as like a bit+ch on heat. OK, if you want to explore your detour, then seriously explain what was Eve already full of sorrow, sadness and/or grief over before God multiplied and added more to it?
budaatum:All can see that you couldn't resist not darkening counsel by words without good and sound knowledge
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by budaatum: 10:46pm On Jun 07, 2021
BassReeves:You may insult buda and be rude as much as you want and to your hearts desire.
The fact remains that Adam and Eve did not surely die on the day that they ate of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. But their eyes opened. And they saw it was good for gaining Wisdom, and they were freed from slavery in the Garden of Eden and became self employed and lived for over 900 years, and went on to produce billions upon billions of human beings as descendants who have since then populated the earth, and of which you today are just one who is now being fed that same fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil so that your eyes may also open and you be empowered to reach out and pluck of the Fruit of the Tree of Life so you may live a long and fruitful productive life. Amen.
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by BassReeves: 11:24pm On Jun 07, 2021
budaatum:Oh oh, when you label and paint others 'dishonest people and liars' was that done to your heart desire? Calling God a liar, that too was it done to your heart's desire?
God blessed them and said to them,
“Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it;
rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and every creature that crawls upon the earth.”
Adam and Eve were set to produce billions upon billions of human beings as descendants, whether or not they ate of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Wisdom is given. Wisdom comes from God. Wisdom is not stolen, it's given. As per the assumed wisdom from in this was, a tree, you arent meant to take another person's property without expressed permission obtained
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by budaatum: 11:42pm On Jun 07, 2021
BassReeves:Bass, stop bearing false witness! I have specifically said God does not lie. Read and understand please!
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by BassReeves: 11:51pm On Jun 07, 2021
BassReeves:You've perfected the act of speaking or talking out of both sides of the mouth and sure show craftsmanship on straddling the fence. Wehdone Sir!
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by budaatum: 12:05am On Jun 08, 2021
That's what people say when they can not follow what I say. Remember I accused you of worshipping a book? You crossed it out, remember, instead of seeking to understand.
Fact is, you believe God wanted Adam and Eve to remain ignorant, and can not imagine that it might be the writers of the book you read who want you to be ignorant, so they write in the book that God wants Adam and Eve to be ignorant and they tell you to believe what they wrote and mindless people abandon the Jealous God whom alone must you worship, and you ignore what you can clearly read with your own eyes and mind, and in order to obey and bow down and worship what you read in a book you now have to lie to yourself that Adam and Eve who did not surely die on the day that they ate and who went on to live for about 800 years after they ate died some sort of wuruwuru death on the day that they ate.
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by BassReeves: 12:20am On Jun 08, 2021
budaatum:People dont need to follow anyone like you or what you say, who talks from both sides of the mouth
I am pleased to see you admit to being an accuser of the brethren.
I understand more than you'll ever imagine
budaatum:budaatum stop bearing false witness! I have nowhere told you that I believe God wanted Adam and Eve to remain ignorant
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by Image123(m): 12:24am On Jun 08, 2021
Are you that blind that you did not just read what you quoted? Same way you look for one you've being with all day. SMH. #Blind. Hope you don't send the acrimonious video yet again.
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by budaatum: 12:29am On Jun 08, 2021
I'm glad to hear that. Neither did Eve which is why she plucked of the fruit that Adam was supposedly told by God not to eat, And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by BassReeves: 12:47am On Jun 08, 2021
budaatum:You think you've got away with bearing false witness and making up stories I never said
budaatum:What's wrong with Eve directly asking God for wisdom just as Solomon selflessly and altruistically asked God. Eve's motive was selfish, it was for the belly, for personal profit and lustful carnal pleasure.
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by budaatum: 12:55am On Jun 08, 2021
Eve was not Solomon who had the benefit of learning from Eve, a benefit she never had since she had no knowledge of asking God for anything unlike Solomon who had been priviledged to learn from all those whom he read asking God for all sorts on things long before himself including from Eve.
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by LordReed(m): 6:25am On Jun 08, 2021
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by LordReed(m): 6:31am On Jun 08, 2021
Nobody died the day they ate the fruit in the tale.
What does spiritual death mean?
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|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by BassReeves: 7:10am On Jun 08, 2021
'Excellent speech does not benefit a fool [who is spiritually blind],
Much less do lying lips benefit a prince.'
Listen to yourself. Smh sigh at you. What a shining example of a good form of bullshitting this your post is. Fyi, Solomon seeking something by asking and Eve seeking same thing but by stealing, are two distinct situation. The common denominator was Solomon passed a test on grounds of selflessness and desire to serve God, while Eve failed hers, on grounds of self-gratification and gain considerable amount of autonomy from God.
It should interest you that God created Adam and Eve with instinctive knowledge, understanding, the power of reasoning and open access to information without charge, but the serpent threw Eve a banana skin, dangled in her way, a bait, hook, line and sinker to create confusion, doubt and an act of rebellion.
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by sonmvayina(m): 10:36am On Jun 08, 2021
Mr BassReeves, the story is a recast of a Babylonian epic about Adapa. It tells of how man lost the chance or forfeited the chance to dwell indefinitely on earth. It is just a story of how death came to be...
In the original tale there where two trees one for good and the other for evil. The serpent of the good tree was Ninghiszida while the serpent of the evil tree was Dimuzi..
Adam simply means "man" which represents all of humanity. And Eve means woman....
What is spiritual death and what is physical death...what is death anyway?
Seek wisdom....seek understanding...
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|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by budaatum: 10:54am On Jun 08, 2021
BassReeves:Good morning Bass. Hope you slept well.
Care to provide evidence for the above please?
As for Solomon, see below so you know that even the most wise are subject to erring.
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by budaatum: 11:01am On Jun 08, 2021
Sonm, I am delighted to see you here. Perhaps you can be a better teacher of BassReeves than I have been.
Please add to his curricula the fact that those who resort to insulting others are simply showing how unwise they really are.
Meanwhile, know that unlike some who read only one book and become malnourished, which Jesus warned against, I am delighted to see you have gone as far as ancient Mesopotamia to seek knowledge.
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by BassReeves: 11:13am On Jun 08, 2021
sonmvayina:1. Who is the narrator?
2. What source is the narrator basing the account on?
sonmvayina:Is that all it tells?
sonmvayina:Two serpents for the prize of one. Aint that a bargain and nice
sonmvayina:Is that so, that Eve means woman?
sonmvayina:Spiritual death is when the spirit disconnects with the Spirit, while physical death is when the soul disconnects and leaves the body
sonmvayina:Death is a dividing line. Its severance, its cessation, its separation etc. Take a pick.
'12Then Moses said to the LORD, “Look, You have been telling me, ‘Lead this people up,’ but You have not let me know whom You will send with me. Yet You have said, ‘I know you by name, and you have found favor in My sight.’
13Now if indeed I have found favor in Your sight, please let me know Your ways, that I may know You and find favor in Your sight. Remember that this nation is Your people.”
14And the LORD answered, “My Presence will go with you, and I will give you rest.”
15“If Your Presence does not go with us,” Moses replied, “do not lead us up from here.
16For how then can it be known that Your people and I have found favor in Your sight, unless You go with us? How else will we be distinguished from all the other people on the face of the earth?”
17So the LORD said to Moses, “I will do this very thing you have asked, for you have found favor in My sight, and I know you by name.”
18Then Moses said, “Please show me Your glory.”
19“I will cause all My goodness to pass before you,” the LORD replied, “and I will proclaim My name—the LORD—in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”
20But He added, “You cannot see My face, for no one can see Me and live.”
21The LORD continued, “There is a place near Me where you are to stand upon a rock,
22and when My glory passes by, I will put you in a cleft of the rock and cover you with My hand until I have passed by.
23Then I will take My hand away, and you will see My back; but My face must not be seen.”'
Counterfeits dont last long. If you know, you know. Dont know. Tough
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by BassReeves: 11:20am On Jun 08, 2021
budaatum:The last thing sonmvayina want to aspire be is a teacher
budaatum:Shame on you. How pathetic it is of you to play the 'those who resort to insulting others' victim card to the drama you created. The villain plays the victim so well. Don't play the victim to circumstances you created. I warned you that I drink poison unharmed and tread on snakes
budaatum:I travel all over the world, lodge in all manners of hotels, but the bible always is home sweet home to me.
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by Dtruthspeaker: 11:28am On Jun 08, 2021
Have you seen what happened to your idiot who took up your foolishness and dressed up as Snake?
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by budaatum: 11:34am On Jun 08, 2021
I think you might be under the impression that your foul words offend me in some way?
Sorry Bass, but I am used to turning the other cheek to cyber slappers like you until your foul mouth tires of slapping.
What's good about it, or sad depending on how you want to see it, is your cyber slapping is seen for what it glorifies, and it can not possibly be the God your own words claim you obey.
Do know that buda is not the victim off your inability to seek knowledge and gain wisdom. We all reap that which we sow.
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by budaatum: 11:37am On Jun 08, 2021
Hello dt, I see you are back again. Good morning.
Surely you mean, your idiot, dt? Doesn't he belong to you who is now introducing him to me?
Sorry, but I am not interested in getting to know your relatives as knowing you is sufficient for the day.
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by BassReeves: 11:45am On Jun 08, 2021
budaatum:If my words offends you, so be it, as you deserve all of it. In fact, KMFT, a large millstone tied around the neck and be thrown into the sea will suffice
Sorry for yourself.
I dont give a monkey about what you think. I dont give a rat's arse what you're used to. I am not interested in knowing whats good or sad about your pseudo intellectualism.
budaatum:You sure and certainly are reaping yours
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by budaatum: 11:55am On Jun 08, 2021
Your words do not in any way offend buda.
You can hurt neither buda's body nor buda's soul. And the fact that you resort to foul words is simply indicative of how pained and troubled you yourself must be.
I suggest you eat some Fruits of the Spirit and be healed of that which ails you.
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by BassReeves: 12:29pm On Jun 08, 2021
budaatum:Then shut the f up and quit whingeing and going on about much ado over nothing
budaatum:It takes a foul person to recognise foul words imagined in the foul person's twisted and debased mind
budaatum:You dont fool anyone with your plastic 'eat some Fruits of the Spirit and be healed of that which ails you' malarkey
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by budaatum: 12:38pm On Jun 08, 2021
Why don't you come shut buda up bassreeves. Stop buying buda data, perhaps, or take away buda's communicating devise because buda sure is causing you severe mental pain, it seems.
|Re: God Is Dead … God Is Alive. Praise God. Alleluia. by budaatum: 12:41pm On Jun 08, 2021
Meanwhile, stop with the lying and misrepresentation of the buda that you clearly do not understand. For while the acquisition of knowledge might reduce you apparent pain, you still must mine wisdom out if it to be healed of that which pains you.
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