StacyO:
The non virgins will disagree.
The virgins will agree.


Two ways street.

needanswer:
I made a comment on someone's post about this and it got me thinking.

The logic is this : MUST I BE SOMETHING TO EXPECT THAT SAME THING.

So that logic applies to virginity, must a man be a virgin to expect a virgin wife?

The logic can also be twisted this way, must a woman make 6 figures or more before she can consider marrying a rich man? Or must she be 6 feet tall before she demands her man must be at least 6 feet tall.

The logic is simply you can't 'take what you can't give'.

ibkonekt:

the answer is NO

aroundtheearth:
Yes.

needanswer:


Please state your logic

aroundtheearth:
Community peens don't deserve virgins.

ibkonekt:

short version
the answer is NO.

"if Dangote says he wants to marry a virgin of 22years non-virgins will complain and insult him but i bet you he will get thousands and thousands of offers" alas he only uses girls of low virtue who claim to be slay queens as concubines

long version
Women like to gaslight themselves to think that men want the same thing that they want from men. women want resources from men, men want chastisty youth fertility. so it stands to reason a well accomplished man can "Demand" a virgin because he has built himself to a high quality in society. therefore such a man does not need virginity to ask for a virgin. the virgin girl will even throw herself at him because he can provide a lifestyle that she desires. the woman gets a new life the man gets youth fertility and healthy children. women also love pre-selected men, women have a hive mentality in the sense that they believe if a pretty woman chose to be with a man it shows that he must be a catch and they will want that man. so in essence if a man has many beautiful past girlfriends and bedded them, many women will choose that man over a virgin because he was pre-selected by other women. men do not function this way, once a man has entered a woman she becomes repulsive to other men as a wife, but a good option for free sex

typical example is ned nwoko and regina daniels. regina will never marry a poor virgin or managing/struggling virgin as compared to ned because in reality what women hate to admit is that all they want out of marriage is a man's resources and the life that he can produce for her and her offspring. they like to gaslight themselves that men must want the sam thing, however this is not true.

the flip side is that women at 18 -27 are very attractive and have multiple suitors at this time, so they can choose a high quality man if he presents himself at this time.

as a man of stature and means a woman's money means nothing to you, it's worthless. you already have enough money. her most valuable possession is her purity and chastity which Wh0res gave away for free. a woman thats not a virgin should not be wifed up except she is ashamed of her past and tells her man the truth of her wh0redom...and the only man that can do this is a man of high value.

needanswer:


So using the deserving principles bore holes deserves community pen/s. Broke girls deserve broke boys, short girls same etc, only girls that meets the same standard as a guy deserve each other. Really nice.

needanswer:
I made a comment on someone's post about this and it got me thinking.

The logic is this : MUST I BE SOMETHING TO EXPECT THAT SAME THING.

So that logic applies to virginity, must a man be a virgin to expect a virgin wife?

The logic can also be twisted this way, must a woman make 6 figures or more before she can consider marrying a rich man? Or must she be 6 feet tall before she demands her man must be at least 6 feet tall.

The logic is simply you can't 'take what you can't give'.

aroundtheearth:
If you're not a virgin, or worse, have a high body count and are a community peen who has slept with anything and everything in a skirt, it would be hypocritical of you to be looking for a virgin to marry. Yes, the qualities you expect in a future spouse ought to be qualities you yourself possess or can match.

You need to create another /other thread[s] for your other points below because I'm not interested in red herring arguments.

JaneYave:
I may not understand but eventually bad guys marry the best ladies. Most women just want to be treated right.

needanswer:
I made a comment on someone's post about this and it got me thinking.

The logic is this : MUST I BE SOMETHING TO EXPECT THAT SAME THING.

So that logic applies to virginity, must a man be a virgin to expect a virgin wife?

The logic can also be twisted this way, must a woman make 6 figures or more before she can consider marrying a rich man? Or must she be 6 feet tall before she demands her man must be at least 6 feet tall.

The logic is simply you can't 'take what you can't give'.

ibkonekt:

short version
the answer is NO.

"if Dangote says he wants to marry a virgin of 22years non-virgins will complain and insult him but i bet you he will get thousands and thousands of offers" alas he only uses girls of low virtue who claim to be slay queens as concubines

long version
Women like to gaslight themselves to think that men want the same thing that they want from men. women want resources from men, men want chastisty youth fertility. so it stands to reason a well accomplished man can "Demand" a virgin because he has built himself to a high quality in society. therefore such a man does not need virginity to ask for a virgin. the virgin girl will even throw herself at him because he can provide a lifestyle that she desires. the woman gets a new life the man gets youth fertility and healthy children. women also love pre-selected men, women have a hive mentality in the sense that they believe if a pretty woman chose to be with a man it shows that he must be a catch and they will want that man. so in essence if a man has many beautiful past girlfriends and bedded them, many women will choose that man over a virgin because he was pre-selected by other women. men do not function this way, once a man has entered a woman she becomes repulsive to other men as a wife, but a good option for free sex

typical example is ned nwoko and regina daniels. regina will never marry a poor virgin or managing/struggling virgin as compared to ned because in reality what women hate to admit is that all they want out of marriage is a man's resources and the life that he can produce for her and her offspring. they like to gaslight themselves that men must want the sam thing, however this is not true.

the flip side is that women at 18 -27 are very attractive and have multiple suitors at this time, so they can choose a high quality man if he presents himself at this time.

as a man of stature and means a woman's money means nothing to you, it's worthless. you already have enough money. her most valuable possession is her purity and chastity which Wh0res gave away for free. a woman thats not a virgin should not be wifed up except she is ashamed of her past and tells her man the truth of her wh0redom...and the only man that can do this is a man of high value.

angelfallz:
You don't even need to go as far as Dangote. Any man can demand a virgin woman.

ibkonekt:
what women want from men but they will deny with words however their actions reveal otherwise.
1. Hot (attractive)
2. Tall
3.Good in bed
4. wealthy
5.pre-selected (chosen by other gorgeous women)
6. status
7. confidence
8. independent
9. relatively older

what men want from women
1. beautiful and pretty
2. loyal (dont sleep around) - this ties into virginity
3. youth and younger
4. fertility
5. emotional support
6. feminine attributes i.e submissive, reduced nagging, reduced arguement and quarrel..being able to care for kids, wash clean take care of home etc
7. not fat

attributes like intelligence, hardworking, boss lady, career driven, goal getter does not really matter as much to men of high value, they are a nice bonus to a lady but not the core of what she has to offer

just a summary why men want virgins and women want tall rich guys. its just nature at play and survival basic primal instint. we all know whats best for us in the long run.
any woman that tells you that only a virgin man can demand a virgin woman is deluded, even in the bible kings that had several wives still demanded young virgins to have as brides. they never demanded for used up wh0res

needanswer:


So virgin guys would want to marry virgin girls but will prevent unvirgin guys from doing same?

That's the point I assume, correct me if I am wrong.

Mikester:


The both of you are damn wise. Wish other men were this informed. Low IQ men and deluded women won't accept these truths.

StacyO:
The non virgins will disagree.
The virgins will agree.


Two ways street.

RisenPhoenix1:
No. There is no value to a guy's virginity because evidence of his chastity is unimportant. A virgin woman on the other hand, is more valuable because it gives preliminary proof that she has superior moral control over her sexual libido and that she will therefore, be less likely to commit paternity fraud; ceteris paribus; than a woman who has spent her youth having indiscriminate sexual alliance. Other advantages include the greater likelihood of having an undamaged uterus (no abortions or drugs), and the impossibility of having post marital ex boyfriend issues when there have not been any boyfriends... leading to greater prace for all the parties. Also, there will be no suspicion of the first born being illegitimate. Usually, with sexually loose women, the first born is the most likely to be illegitimate.

begoniaa:


Soooo many wrong analogies and pseudo-facts. Lmaoo.

There is every benefit to a guy's virginity. The same benefits you listed as being applicable to women is applicable to men. Choosing to believe what you want is on you, but they are not true and universal. Stop making your ideals the reference point, 'coz I'll always quash them while you scurry away forming "I-don't-engage-blehh" and craftily facing things you think are beneath the grasp of your logic. (Why was your first account busted again?)

You said: There is no value to a guy's virginity BECAUSE evidence of his chastity is unimportant?? How do they correlate? How sensible is it that the second part is a progression of the first part? And who decide what important or not?

- A virgin man is a man who has never had sex. That's fact. Hymens do not determine virginity as penetrative sex isn't even the hallmark of sexual activities or how will you even confirm the virginity of a woman without an hymen and she's never had sex? There are the zero women/twenty women a man has had sex with also to confirm if he's a virgin... Unless he's lying, a guy saying he's a virgin (something he'll likely be mocked for) is taken as the truth.

- Physiology might be different but there are consequences for people who are sexually reckless. Every disadvantages you listed for a sexually active woman applies to a sexually active man, too. Every body is susceptible to sexual and fertility issues. Even virgins. That's another fact.

I follow numerous pages and groups where women share their stories of sexual frustrations and cheatings while they married as a virgin. You can play ignore, but you won't wish the reality of virgins being sexually exploratory with other men after marriages away. The Adulteressss lady that shared her story sometime ago here, didn't she say she married as a virgin? Mummy GOs, nko? So what are you on about? Like men don't make baby mamas of women and bring other "illegitimate" kids INTO a marriage that's supposed to be MONOGAMOUS?
Is it about the suspicion for you? Allay suspicions on the surface while collecting dicking from best male friend on the low? Hahaha.

- And finally, when people are true to themselves, emotionally, sexually and in every way, everybody is happy.

begoniaa:


Soooo many wrong analogies and pseudo-facts. Lmaoo.

There is every benefit to a guy's virginity. The same benefits you listed as being applicable to women is applicable to men.

begoniaa:

Choosing to believe what you want is on you, but they are not true and universal. Stop making your ideals the reference point, 'coz I'll always quash them while you scurry away forming "I-don't-engage-blehh" and craftily facing things you think are beneath the grasp of your logic. (Why was your first account busted again?)

begoniaa:

You said: There is no value to a guy's virginity BECAUSE evidence of his chastity is unimportant?? How do they correlate? How sensible is it that the second part is a progression of the first part? And who decide what important or not?

begoniaa:

- A virgin man is a man who has never had sex. That's fact. Hymens do not determine virginity as penetrative sex isn't even the hallmark of sexual activities or how will you even confirm the virginity of a woman without an hymen and she's never had sex? There are the zero women/twenty women a man has had sex with also to confirm if he's a virgin... Unless he's lying, a guy saying he's a virgin (something he'll likely be mocked for) is taken as the truth.

begoniaa:

- Physiology might be different but there are consequences for people who are sexually reckless. Every disadvantages you listed for a sexually active woman applies to a sexually active man, too. Every body is susceptible to sexual and fertility issues. Even virgins. That's another fact.

begoniaa:

I follow numerous pages and groups where women share their stories of sexual frustrations and cheatings while they married as a virgin. You can play ignore, but you won't wish the reality of virgins being sexually exploratory with other men after marriages away. The Adulteressss lady that shared her story sometime ago here, didn't she say she married as a virgin? Mummy GOs, nko? So what are you on about? Like men don't make baby mamas of women and bring other "illegitimate" kids INTO a marriage that's supposed to be MONOGAMOUS?

begoniaa:

Is it about the suspicion for you? Allay suspicions on the surface while collecting dicking from best male friend on the low? Hahaha.

- And finally, when people are true to themselves, emotionally, sexually and in every way, everybody is happy.

needanswer:


What you said is true unfortunately but that's the poster's thoughts. Mine is anybody can marry anybody as long as that's what they desire. Of cause the other party must see something in you they equally desire.

His thoughts are not the Universe's thoughts nor Laws of Nature.
Someone that doesn't believe in God wants to be making absolute moral judgments? Very funny.

The bolded is true. If love happens between a woman who is a virgin, and a guy that isn't, it's not bad. But selfish reasons, hypocrisy and social realities would play out in most cases.

Why is a non-virgin *insisting* they want a virgin? These things aren't hard and all those unnecessary shalaye up there is because those guys want to eat their cakes and have it. If a woman who is also virgin chooses you, finds you befitting... fine.

(All these words sound yucky to me somehow. Virgins, non-virgins, as if people are pieces of meat and have...mtcheew.)