Fashola wont leave ACN the party where ALL HIS FAMILY IS?

everyone in his family
BANIRES, KOSOKOS, BALOGUNS lol all ACN.

i mean if everyone in your family is acn would you leave?

[size=15pt]THE TRUTH IS THAT FASHOLA HAS BETTER CHANCES TO A PRESIDENCY IN 2015 THAN DECAMPING TO NEGLIGIBLE LP OR CORRUPT PDP.
WE WANT BUHARI TO WIN AND PURGE NIGERIA FOR 4 YEARS.
FASHOLA/NGIGE 2015 OR FASHOLA/SANUSI 2015 OR FASHOLA/NGOZI[/size]

^^^^

but who said fashola sould be president? i wanted to be at first but iunno care anymore

^^^^^^^

Or fashola and Chime!
BTW, I was talking about a merger between LP and ACN not Fashola joining LP. We all know he would not join PDP.

^^^ hmmmmmmmm NO

HAHAH LMFAO- chime is going to sambos vp in PDP party.

sbeezy8:

i like fashola but hes not influential in the SW scheme of things honestly. not even lagos when his term ends

If he doesnt run for president anytime soon he will retire and be like Jakande.

If see fashola being like Jakande if he doesnt run for president.

but Fashola being a big dog in Lagos or SW aint possible. its not him

If he gets the opportunity to become a big dog in Nigeria, he'll sieze it and Nigeria will be glad for it. The issue to be resolved is how he can be furnished with the necessary tools after he finishes with Lagos in four years time. I mean. he's too young to retire like Jakande.

people like fashola should really not be allowed to retire from public service, honestly speaking.

Kilode?!:

I think so too, Nigerians will become more sophisticated politically. I totally share that hope.

BUT

A sophisticated population does not need a one party, one ideology, political landscape. That will defeat the point of their sophistication.

ACN has as much chance of becoming a National party as PDP had in '99. Let us appreciate the good fight ACN and other opposition parties gave the PDP behemoth in Benue, Kwara, Akwa Ibom, Edo, Ondo and other parts of Nigeria. Even ACN faced decent opposition from smaller parties in their region. Nigerians are the winner despite the allegations of rigging an intimidation.

A one party state will do us no good. Politics is not a one way street, especially if you are hoping for a sophisticated political landscape.

You cannot fight a behemoth like PDP from a regional position. That will only entrench the one party state you so fear, cos regional parties will simply be swated aside like pesky flies.
To go with the theme of the thread, none of the regional parties can ever get Fashola on the national scene where he belongs. ACN for one, has reached its zenith; outside Yoruba land, it has picked up mainly desperate politicians like Udoedehe and Akume; there are a couple of exception like Ngige though, but in his case, he is more like using ACN, since as an ex-gov, he has extensive polital machinery, he just needed a vehicle.

akinalabi:

Making things look like ACN is getting popular because of Fashola is totally wrong.

When PDP was rolling over the south west in 2003, Tinubu stayed strong and could not be eroded. Was it because
of Fashola.

When ACN was formed and he left office and he imposed Fashola, there was a lot of noise and critics
like you had a field day.

Fashola defeated Koro, how did it happen? Did Fashola have any sort of popularity then? It was all
Tinubu.

Aregbesola taking over in Osun (through the courts) was it because of Fashola's popularity as well? We
can see Tinubu's hand all over the place. Now the incumbency has heped in Osun.

My friend, we love Fashola but Tinubu is the grand master.

Leave dem make dem dey deceive demselves.

Who brought fashola up? Its a known fact that fashola on his own wont win 100 votes anywhere in lagos without Tinubu. He was the weakest among the contesters for AC ticket yet Tinubu HANDPICKED him over others.

Lets assume Fashola goes to PDP now, the much hated PDP, So he would now join Obanikoro, OBJ, Daniels Bode george etc . I can assure you that he would be impeached within 24hrs.

ACN rules Lagos state in every area. so Fashola would now attempt to be a PDP gov sorrounded by ACN legislators? impeachment sharp sharp.

We ppl of the SW owe Tinubu a lot for fighting the PDP to a standstill against all odds, when everything favoured PDP when ppl where jostling to join the "mainstream", Tinubu stood up against it and now he is reaping the benefit.

Tinubu is the grandmaster of SW

sbeezy8:

Fashola wont leave ACN the party where ALL HIS FAMILY IS?

everyone in his family
BANIRES, KOSOKOS, BALOGUNS lol all ACN.

i mean if everyone in your family is acn would you leave?

I used to have a babe from one of those families, so maybe me sef go join ACN!

Fashola will be very difficult to get. Also, Fashola Presidency cannot sail in 2015 under any party. Nigeria is not mature enough for that. Tribalism will not let it be. Even if PDP gets Fashola, the best he can get is VP.

ACN has to play a strong northern/southern card like (Ribadu or Lamido) / Ngozi or (Ribadu or Lamido) /Fashola. If they can get the backing of people like Utomi etc, they may stand a chance to uproot a Sambo/whoever PDP.

2015 will probably be more about the strength of the candidates than the strength of the party. Anybody that can get the strongest candidates will have the upper hand. IMHO, if PDP wants to remain in power beyond 2015, Sambo should not be an option. I do not think Sambo is strong enough to sway southern votes and attract strong Northern support. PDP needs to shop for the best stock. If PDP somehow gets the likes of Sanusi Lamido, Ribadu and Fashola to their side, there will be no stopping them. It is even more likely for Ribadu to move over to PDP than Fashola.

jason123:

As I said earlier, Tinubu is inconsequential to Fashola's political future as long as Fashola remains good in the eyes of Nigerians and Tinubu knows this. In fact, to prove Tinubu knew this, he tried not nominate Fashola for the governorship ticket in Lagos and we all saw what happened, didn't we? Tinubu knows this as well.

Again, you need someone like Tinubu to play the drity politics in Nigeria so Fashola can concentrate on better things. Right now, as you projected; it will take around 6 yrs for Fashola to have a political strong party, by that his momentum will be low and might not win on the national stage. He needs dirty politics and Tinubu can provide that for him.
BTW, remember PDP is seen as an EVIL party. The only thing going for PDP is GEJ. Once GEJ is out, I seriously doubt PDP will ever be taken serious again. I think most of these good governors will join ACN as the time goes on. Who knew Sariki of PDP in Lagos would join ACN For him to join, I strongly believe most people will decamp as the time goes on and after GEJ. PDP will simply return to a northern party especially IF ACN can pair up Fashola and Chime or any of those governors.

If GEJ wins the election, I believe there will be massive purges and restructuring in PDP. It would also become the first political party in this dispensation with an ideology. Perceptions of evil can be barnished quite rapidly and replaced with perceptions of caring sophistication.
If the above happens, then in the next few months, the likes of Tinubu will begin to look as hideous as angels from Beelzebub, and Fashola would be in a hurry to drop any associations.

Beaf:

If GEJ wins the election, I believe there will be massive purges and restructuring in PDP. It would also become the first political party in this dispensation with an ideology. Perceptions of evil can be barnished quite rapidly and replaced with perceptions of caring sophistication.
If the above happens, then in the next few months, the likes of Tinubu will begin to look as hideous as angels from Beelzebub, and Fashola would be in a hurry to drop any associations.

the same gej who is frolicking with bode george and co?

Beaf:

[b]You cannot fight a behemoth like PDP from a regional position. That will only entrench the one party state you so fear, cos regional parties will simply be swated aside like pesky flies.[/b]To go with the theme of the thread, none of the regional parties can ever get Fashola on the national scene where he belongs. ACN for one, has reached its zenith; outside Yoruba land, it has picked up mainly desperate politicians like Udoedehe and Akume; there are a couple of exception like Ngige though, but in his case, he is more like using ACN, since as an ex-gov, he has extensive polital machinery, he just needed a vehicle.

ACN fought the PDP behemoth and won. Of course you can argue it was chiefly in the SW, but don't forget PDP held sway even in the SW just 3 days ago.

But more to the point, I was responding to your hope for a more sophisticated political landscape, It will be strange if you believe that we can get that by moving everybody to PDP or a single national party.

ACN or whatever off-shoot they bring out in the future will do Nigerians well if they broaden their base and extend their reach to other regions, I agree with that. But they are doing great given the National treasury funded opposition from PDP.

Let's give the opposition their credit and welcome the little bit of beauty they've brought to our one-sided democracy. It is Fresh Air!

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a bigger beatdown of the PDP in the coming elections, It is for all of our own good that we reduce their power and influence and give them an opposition to challenge their excesses.

There are two things to be deciphered from this thread:

1: The OP is a FOOL

2. the PDP is getting scared and panicky and will do or say whatever to re-assure themselves they still have the relevance they had four years ago.The PDP is a sinking ship and rather than fashola join PDP Jonathan should better join ACN to save his presidential ambition this saturday. It is quite obvious that nigerians by and large have rejected the PDP and GEJ is doomed for failure.

ACN is a party with an ideology,strategy and succession structure. .PDP is a use and dump party hence its gradual sink into oblivion. In 2015 Fashola will run for presidency under ACN and win. .That is the grim reality which frightens beaf so much hence his indirect invitation to BRF . .Im sorry but you have grossly miscalculated. In Two weeks from now Akwa-ibom,benue,oyo,ogun,rivers,kwara and so many other states would be governed by ACN.

Jonathan should be ready to relinquish power come may 29 or get the Gbagbo treatment.

@ beaf,

Why the sudden courting of Fashola? Isnt this the same man you categoricaly stated that YOU HAVE LOST ALL RESPECT FOR?

That you called an ID!OT?

and you must still 'be living in the past' to still be referring to ACN as a regional party. .The moment they won EDO they crossed regions. .and with last saturday's victories they are now fully national and clearly front runners . The situation with PDP and ACN is now like Democrats and Republicans no longer Leading party and opposition. .Both parties are now equal and are the frontrunners

Joining PDP is definitely not among the options.

Guys this is politics. Even if it is difficult to get Fashola, PDP will do anything to get a man like him on board in order to enjoy renewed support from the SW. If PDP injects some fresh blood like Fash, Utomi, Ngozi and Sanusi they will shake the earth to its foundations. After this time the race will not be just about the party name. Fortunately, PDP has what it takes to bring him in. It will only take a lot of effort and some bad heads must roll to make it happen. I guess that is the kind of reformation PDP will target from now on.

Somethings may have happened underground that we do not know about. Recall just before the elections, OBJ made a symbolic statement: "I am ready to die for Nigeria - OBJ". Read in between the lines, the voters may have just acted out that script! Nothing is impossible in politics.

Beaf:

If GEJ wins the election, I believe there will be massive purges and restructuring in PDP. It would also become the first political party in this dispensation with an ideology.

Really? What is the Ideology of PDP?

I know Fashola, Tinubu and ACN have gone on record to argue for State police, more State control of revenue, a weak center and even resource control -If we see them as the same ACN of the AC period- ACN Assembly members are always at the forefront of several reformist pushes in the HOA: FOI bill, diaspora voting e.t.c  -I'm glad Uncle Sola Adeyeye of ACN is back in the House of Assembly as a Senator!- I wish we have more of them.

whereas OBJ  has gone on record to oppose a lot of these things on behalf of PDP and the Nigerian Military-Political Establishment, FOI bill comes to mind. That was also the difference between OBJ and Bola Ige +the founders of AC and by extention ACN.

CPC has promised similar structural changes in addition to their stance on corruption, GEJ has not.

I'm not sure if it's because GEJ does not believe these things are necessary or he's just trying to be strategic. Personally, I'm guessing he knew he won't win if he'd promise those things especially when he was running against Northern pro-establishment candidates in PDP. That is another reason why I doubt GEJ will have the balls to control the pro-establishment hawks and governors he's scared of opposing in PDP right now.

On economic ideology; as confusing as the Nigerian "political-economic" landscape is, ACN has shown they can work well in a privatised environment in Lagos, but we can't speak too much about that since the power to privatise and liberalize most of our state companies and utilities lies with the Federal Government for now.

But in the states controlled by the ACN (Lagos and Edo), we have seen a greater push for taxation and citizen involvement in government funding and that will only empower people to demand for more accountability. You saw that kind of citizen demand and empowerment during the Lagos Lekki Concession saga! people power forced Fashola to back down a bit!

Taxes make the people powerful and ACN is encouraging it.

What do we see in PDP states? What is GEJ's position and ideology?

Weak center? strong center?

resource control? state police? free press?

Greater protection from state security? Taxation? welfarism? capitalism? socialism? True Federalism?

I'm not hearing anything from my brotha in Aso Rock.

ROBERT BESSELING of Al-Jazeera just made it known on the international news channel that GEJ is unable to account for 22billion dollars of money from the excess crude accouint. .what a shame . .nigeria's failures being analyzed by foreigners. .

BTW,Nigeria is Africa's no1 crudeoil exporter and nothing to show

forpeace:

ROBERT BESSELING of Al-Jazeera just made it known on the international news channel that GEJ is unable to account for 22billion dollars of money from the excess crude accouint. .what a shame . .nigeria's failures being analyzed by foreigners. .

BTW,Nigeria is Africa's no1 crudeoil exporter and nothing to show

Abeg, we are talking about Fashola here. I'll be glad when the elections are over, cos a lot of you guys that just talk OP for no reason will be gone.

Beaf:

Abeg, we are talking about Fashola here. I'll be glad when the elections are over, cos a lot of you guys that just talk OP for no reason will be gone.

PDP beware of Lagos!!

Kilode?!:

Really? What is the Ideology of PDP?

I know Fashola, Tinubu and ACN have gone on record to argue for State police, more State control of revenue, a weak center and even resource control -If we see them as the same ACN of the AC period- ACN Assembly members are always at the forefront of several reformist pushes in the HOA: FOI bill, diaspora voting e.t.c -I'm glad Uncle Sola Adeyeye of ACN is back in the House of Assembly as a Senator!- I wish we have more of them.

whereas OBJ has gone on record to oppose a lot of these things on behalf of PDP and the Nigerian Military-Political Establishment, FOI bill comes to mind. That was also the difference between OBJ and Bola Ige +the founders of AC and by extention ACN.

CPC has promised similar structural changes in addition to their stance on corruption, GEJ has not.

I'm not sure if it's because GEJ does not believe these things are necessary or he's just trying to be strategic. Personally, I'm guessing he knew he won't win if he'd promise those things especially when he was running against Northern pro-establishment candidates in PDP. That is another reason why I doubt GEJ will have the balls to control the pro-establishment hawks and governors he's scared of opposing in PDP right now.

On economic ideology; as confusing as the Nigerian "political-economic" landscape is, ACN has shown they can work well in a privatised environment in Lagos, but we can't speak too much about that since the power to privatise and liberalize most of our state companies and utilities lies with the Federal Government for now.

But in the states controlled by the ACN (Lagos and Edo), we have seen a greater push for taxation and citizen involvement in government funding and that will only empower people to demand for more accountability. You saw that kind of citizen demand and empowerment during the Lagos Lekki Concession saga! people power forced Fashola to back down a bit!

Taxes make the people powerful and ACN is encouraging it.

What do we see in PDP states? What is GEJ's position and ideology?

Weak center? strong center?

resource control? state police? free press?

Greater protection from state security? Taxation? welfarism? capitalism? socialism? True Federalism?

I'm not hearing anything from my brotha in Aso Rock.

Great.

Beaf can you respond to this?

I don't understand, why would someone want to leave a growing party for a falling one?

Kilode?!:

Really? What is the Ideology of PDP?

I know Fashola, Tinubu and ACN have gone on record to argue for State police, more State control of revenue, a weak center and even resource control -If we see them as the same ACN of the AC period- ACN Assembly members are always at the forefront of several reformist pushes in the HOA: FOI bill, diaspora voting e.t.c  -I'm glad Uncle Sola Adeyeye of ACN is back in the House of Assembly as a Senator!- I wish we have more of them.

whereas OBJ  has gone on record to oppose a lot of these things on behalf of PDP and the Nigerian Military-Political Establishment, FOI bill comes to mind. That was also the difference between OBJ and Bola Ige +the founders of AC and by extention ACN.

CPC has promised similar structural changes in addition to their stance on corruption, GEJ has not.

I'm not sure if it's because GEJ does not believe these things are necessary or he's just trying to be strategic. Personally, I'm guessing he knew he won't win if he'd promise those things especially when he was running against Northern pro-establishment candidates in PDP. That is another reason why I doubt GEJ will have the balls to control the pro-establishment hawks and governors he's scared of opposing in PDP right now.

On economic ideology; as confusing as the Nigerian "political-economic" landscape is, ACN has shown they can work well in a privatised environment in Lagos, but we can't speak too much about that since the power to privatise and liberalize most of our state companies and utilities lies with the Federal Government for now.

But in the states controlled by the ACN (Lagos and Edo), we have seen a greater push for taxation and citizen involvement in government funding and that will only empower people to demand for more accountability. You saw that kind of citizen demand and empowerment during the Lagos Lekki Concession saga! people power forced Fashola to back down a bit!

Taxes make the people powerful and ACN is encouraging it.

What do we see in PDP states? What is GEJ's position and ideology?

Weak center? strong center?

resource control? state police? free press?

Greater protection from state security? Taxation? welfarism? capitalism? socialism? True Federalism?

I'm not hearing anything from my brotha in Aso Rock.

I wonder why the talk about Obj? He isn't PDP, he might be a senior member, but he isn't PDP and he ruled almost a decade ago.
90% of the things you mentioned do not form an ideology either.

As for the bolded, GEJ is a quiet operator, something thats really necessary because of the type of politics we practice in Nigeria. You really need to keep your ear to the ground until after the elections, which GEJ will win by the grace of God.
Until that time, I'll tell you though that he will take the party toward true federalism, a welfarist capitalism, citizen empowerment, education and technology; and they are already looking to alter the very obnoxious land use decree. A lot of these things cannot be discussed by the FG until the weeding of the farm is completed.

You never know, when the box is opened, it might prick Fashola's interest. That man cannot be allowed to retire into obscurity when he is done as gov.

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whats with all this dic riding fashola from beaf? is this not thesame beaf who was deriding fashola when fasola was challenging gej to debate, and remindin us that akpabio is the best governor in nigeria? the same beaf who was talking trash abot fashola being public relations and trees?

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violent:


I don't understand, why would someone want to leave a growing party for a falling one?

[size=16pt]GBAM ! ! ! [/size]

For Fashola to be widely accepted by Nigerians, he should probe Tinubu for maladministration and other sins.

Andre Uweh:

For Fashola to be widely accepted by Nigerians, he should probe Tinubu for maladministration and other sins.

how

has ohaneze, ibb, OBJ and others probe jonathan for the misuse of funds he committed in power as a governor and even as the current president before he was accepted