bukatyne:


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@OP:
The Bible doesn't talk about smoking cigarettes or pornography either.

Studying God's plan for marriage, monogamy is the ideal situation which balances the 'rights' and 'responsiblities' of both parties.

Would a polygamist go to hell? No idea

Would a man filled with the Spirit of God marry multiple wives? I 100% doubt it.

And for the Bible, smoking cigarette is not a sin.
As for pornogrpahy, i will leave that issue for now.

Monogamy is not any ideal gods plan for marriage. There are clearly spelt out rights abd responsibilities within polygamy too, try not to pretend like you do not know!

Of course, i know if you could say it, you would have said it clearly that he would go to hell if he had two wives.

God said: david is a man after his own heart; Abraham was called a friend of god and ''of the most high god''.

bukatyne:


Roll the eyes upwards

Different dispensation.

Divorce was 'allowed' in OT, just write a letter of divorce to your wife.

In NT, not allowed.

Even in the new testament, of the 120 disciples of jesus gathered in the upper room, there are very likely those who had more than one wife. And they all recieved the holy ghost.
Divorce is allowed even in the new testament.

Then shutup

Mac2016:
Have been pondering on this for long. I think polygamy is better than adultery but would our wives allow us peacefully on this safer option?

They are not even the same. Polygamy is on the same level of sanctity as monogamy.

MiddleDimension:


Even in the new testament, of the 120 disciples of jesus gathered in the upper room, there are very likely those who had more than one wife. And they all recieved the holy ghost.
Divorce is allowed even in the new testament.

The law clearly states that Kings shouldn’t have multiple wives...deut 17v17...
.that God called David a man after his heart...doesn’t that mean God suppoted all his flaws including polygamy and adultery later in life...

Same for Abraham....when are going to stop this justifying wrong becos and Old Testament person did it.

becos God has mercy with our flaws doesn’t mean he’s okay with them...Peter denied Christ 3 times..doesn’t mean we should go about denying Jesus...

U even claimed the disciples in the upper room may have multiple wives....na wah for u ooo

..how could he say he doesn’t know if what tramples on the rights of a woman is wrong just because the Bible ddnt say specifically....

Heck...will he say he doesn’t know if p0rn, cocaine, etc is a wrong becos the Bible ddnt say.?

That’s why I brought my point from the angle of humanity....1st becos reno is human...and also a pastor..he could have answered from either angle...But he pretended to be in the fence...

Secondly u were saying I should give a bible verse or shut up...why should I have to give a bible verse to determine what’s wrong....every isn’t written in the Bible ....??

But if u feel I have not point..well everyone is entitled to their opinion[/quote] what would you have said if he based his answer on the fact that DAVID, SOLOMON and other great men married more than one wife and tell his follower that it is biblical? I understand the angle you are coming from. Sorry you can't change it. Woman emancipator. Woman must be under man it is biblical they dont have any option about it.

Righteousness2:
Bro Reno, GOD is not an author of Confusion!the Scripture is clear on that


Male and Female!
Not Male and Females
Not Females and Male.


Cleave to his wife not to His wives!


Let's not Deceive ourselves!It is pure Adultery!
Leave Father Abramham!
Leave King David!
There are things GOD tolerated with them that HE will not Tolerate with us. We must be careful with what we say!

Shet up guy... Ur answer is no different from Reno's u succeeded in reading your own meaning to what u understood by the scripture which for me, ya all are same guy

Righteousness2:
Bro Reno, GOD is not an author of Confusion!the Scripture is clear on that


Male and Female!
Not Male and Females
Not Females and Male.


Cleave to his wife not to His wives!


Let's not Deceive ourselves!It is pure Adultery!
Leave Father Abramham!
Leave King David!
There are things GOD tolerated with them that HE will not Tolerate with us. We must be careful with what we say!

SMH, you lack understanding of the scriptures you quoted in respect to the topic discussed.

Read those scriptures again and again

tiredoflife:


1 corth 7:1 down is clear
No where was wives mentioned but wife
So don't give ear to what's not in the teachings for the new creations

That's because in Christian marriage, which polygamy is a part of, a relationship between husband and wife are personal; just like the relationship between jesus and the believer (i am not the one who likened the relationship between a man and a woman to jesus and the born again, the bible did).

Polygamy is so appropriately a christian marriage because jesus had to use it in his parrable to teach faithfulness!

In the parable of the ten virgins, he said ''when the bridegroom comes aground...'' He did not say ''when the bridegroomS come...'' Even though there were more than one woman there.
Now, the reason for that is because in christianity, you as a believer, are not sharing jesus with someone else even though that person is a believer too and he or she is not sharing jesus with you, even though you are a believer. Jesus is your complete lord and saviour just as he is the other person's lord and saviour. He is your ''husband'' so to speak as he is the other person's ''husband''. So in chirstianity, when that verse of the bible is used, it does not and cannot mean that polygamy is being condemned; infact, it supports polygamy because it says: let every man have his own wife; every woman, her husband! Which means even if Paul is against polygamy in that verse (which he is not, by the way), incase the is an imbalance in the population of men to women, be sure he will sanction it since he said let every man have his own wife; every woman, her husband.

But like i have shown to you from the parable of the ten virgins; in christianity, the relationship between husband and wife is always spoken of in personal terms, even though the man may have more than one wife.

advanceDNA:
sometimes...Reno is not alright..

Give us scriptural reference why is not right, not this your judgemental bashing.

Righteousness2:



If Matthew 19, Mark 10 are not clear enough for you then you wanna Deceive yourself!
Continue!!
In due Season we will reap what we sow

Abeg! What u're trying to do is patch up. Show me a scripture in the Bible that explicitly talks about polygamy as it talked about adultery.

This is what I want not patch ups.

Please do a research on it and don't give me Matt19.

adebopo:
Give us scriptural reference why is not right, not this your judgemental bashing.

So it’s only bible that can tell U if something is right or wrong??

That’s why I’m bashing him...he’s always under the morality canopy....so why is he trying to say he doesn’t know if something that tramples on the right of a woman is wrong or not just becos th Bible is silent....

Let’s not deceive ourselves everything is not Written in the Bible....but that doesn’t mean they are right...that’s why Jesus said the Holy Spirit will explain the rest to you...

Offpoint1:

SMH, you lack understanding of the scriptures you quoted in respect to the topic discussed.

Read those scriptures again and again

That's why he keeps wondering on every page, saying all the things he says

advanceDNA:


The law clearly states that Kings shouldn’t have multiple wives...deut 17v17...
.that God called David a man after his heart...doesn’t that mean God suppoted all his flaws including polygamy and adultery later in life...

Same for Abraham....when are going to stop this justifying wrong becos and Old Testament person did it.

becos God has mercy with our flaws doesn’t mean he’s okay with them...Peter denied Christ 3 times..doesn’t mean we should go about denying Jesus...

U even claimed the disciples in the upper room may have multiple wives....na wah for u ooo

Tell me how polygamy is a human flaw. You people should sometimes listen to yourselves when you speak. It is a human flaw but god told david that he has given david him wives and if that is not enough, he would have given him more! God himself gave david those wives he had, apart from the one he stole.

advanceDNA:


The law clearly states that Kings shouldn’t have multiple wives...deut 17v17...
.that God called David a man after his heart...doesn’t that mean God suppoted all his flaws including polygamy and adultery later in life...

Same for Abraham....when are going to stop this justifying wrong becos and Old Testament person did it.

becos God has mercy with our flaws doesn’t mean he’s okay with them...Peter denied Christ 3 times..doesn’t mean we should go about denying Jesus...

U even claimed the disciples in the upper room may have multiple wives....na wah for u ooo

This is god speaking in 2 Samuel 7 - 8:
“You are that man,” Nathan said to David. “And this is what the LORD God of Israel says: ‘I made you king of Israel and rescued you from Saul. 8 I gave you his kingdom and his wives; I made you king over Israel and Judah. If this had not been enough, I would have given you twice as much.''

This is after Saul had died, by the way; and god still said HE GAVE SAUL'S WIDOWS TO DAVID if that is not enough, he would have given him more.

Now, i did not write the above. God himself said so.

As for the disciples in the upper room, 120 of them; it is certain for some of them to have more than one wife since it was widely practiced in those days as a result of thale fact that they lived in a very supportive aggrarian and rural society.

Another reason to believe many of the early christians had polygamy is because Paul told them that a bishop should be someone who has only one wife. If in his congregation there were no people with more than one wife, he would not have said so.

Emusan:


Bible didn't ONLY instruct minister's or church workers but ALL BELIEVERS.

The verse is: If ANY be blameless, the husband of ONE WIFE...

The question is, are believers commanded to be blameless?

Please quote the passage for me let me look at it.

advanceDNA:



Don’t be triggered ....I never said he’s lying...

I have my own views about polygamy...

I believe polygamy is greed...it’s repackaged adultery......women are the same...trust me...

I believe no one can love his wives equally... so already there will be biasness....

Polygamy breeds jealousy among wives and children...
if any woman tells u she’s fine with the fact that her husband is drilling another woman in the next room and will still put the same pen!s in her later on ....then u must believe I’m dangote...
So already I are just hurting several women emotionally who can’t talk because of their desperate need to be married and have children

At the end of the day...polygamy tramples upon the rights of woman..

This is my view.. I am not speaking from religion.


.it’s based on my views I feel that Reno is not alright..

What if they tell you they truely do?
You feel it is greed because of the thinking you have used to analyse it. The straight thinking that is pervassive in the west and is becoming pervassive all over the world; not because it is the best, or that other kind if thinking are not good; but because the west wields power in the world now and they dominate global culture.

What about Ruth and Boaz's marriage? Is it greed on the part of Boaz since it is very likely he was already married to possibly other wives before ruth?

I find this little blog a bit interesting
https://www.google.com/amp/s/goodquestionblog.com/2013/02/22/0222/amp/

MiddleDimension:


Tell me how polygamy is a human flaw. You people should sometimes listen to yourselves when you speak. It is a human flaw but god told david that he has given david him wives and if that is not enough, he would have given him more! God himself gave david those wives he had, apart from the one he stole.

You are free to use whatever scripture u like to back your claim....

God gave him power...all he had was becos of the power God gave him...including wives...human decision will always come into play on earth...what u do with power is totally up to you...

MiddleDimension:


What if they tell you they truely do?
You feel it is greed because of the thinking you have used to analyse it. The straight thinking that is pervassive in the west and is becoming pervassive all over the world; not because it is the best, or that other kind if thinking are not good; but because the west wields power in the world now and they dominate global culture.

What about Ruth and Boaz's marriage? Is it greed on the part of Boaz since it is very likely he was already married to possibly other wives before ruth?

I find this little blog a bit interesting
https://www.google.com/amp/s/goodquestionblog.com/2013/02/22/0222/amp/

U just like to assume...I gave my opinion from personal experience...yet u are assuming it’s western ideology....Oga suit urself jare...

u are trying to sound smart ....but all u have here are just hasty conclusions and assumptions.

All ur point are likely... likely ..likely...

advanceDNA:


U just like to assume...I gave my opinion from personal experience...yet u are assuming it’s western ideology....Oga suit urself jare...

u are trying to sound smart ....but all u have here are just hasty conclusions and assumptions.

All ur point are likely... likely ..likely...

From my experience, people also got into monogamy out of greed. Ever heard of gold diggers? Isabelle in the soap opera second chance, is also very real in real life.

David married the wives he married not because he was greedy, but because god gave some of them to him.

He married the first one 1samuel 18 because he was given as a gift.
The second one 1samuel 25, because she demonstrated virtue and was a widow already not because he was greedy. So what is your point?

MiddleDimension:


From my experience, people also got into monogamy out of greed

Greed is an unhealthy desire for something u already have....

How is having one wife greed...??

It’s like u U don’t even understand the context i used in tagging polygamy greed

yemzone:



I'll surely find you here. I know you are an advocate of polygamy. Not bad.

Not really an advocate.

advanceDNA:



Greed is an unhealthy desire for something u already have....

How is having one wife greed...??

It’s like u U don’t even understand the context i used in tagging polygamy greed

What about the david example i already gave you?
He married his first wife because saul gifted him his daughter. He married the second one because she showed virtue and was a widow. We are not clear why he married the third. But he married saul's widows because god gave them to him.

These are not my words; i already gave you the quotation. So tell me how polygamy is definitely out of greed. And i am not pretending i do not see your point. There are people who do it, but that's not the problem of polygamy, but the problem of the individual. What about David and Abraham who had more than one wife? Did they do it out of greed?

This is why i brought the idea of the different thinking there are, you denied.

Go through the bible and you will find out that majority of the cases of polygamy you find in the bible are for a completely different reason than greed. For people in different societies at different time, the thinking used in operating societies are very different!!!
Jacob also married his wives not out of greed!

The only time someone took a wife out of greed was when david took Uriah's wife. And to make a distinction between legal and proper pokygamy and greed, god sent Nathan to rebuke him! You know how much he suffered for that!
So if polygamy and adultery and greed are the same in the eyes of the christian god, why then did he not punish those who did proper polygamy, but punished those who did adultery and greed?

Just tell me you have a problem with polygamy and do not try to pass your scepticism for polygamy as god's opunion on it.

advanceDNA:



Greed is an unhealthy desire for something u already have....

How is having one wife greed...??

It’s like u U don’t even understand the context i used in tagging polygamy greed

When you said that, you made the point that greed is the basis for the marriage intention, at least from one party.

So when we see gold diggers marry because of wealth, what we see being the basis of the marriage intention is not love, but still greed.

MiddleDimension:

What about the david example i already gave you?
He married his first wife because saul gifted him his daughter. He married the second one because she showed virtue and was a widow. We are not clear why he married the third. But he married saul's widows because god gave them to him.

These are not my words; i already gave you the quotation. So tell me how polygamy is definitely out of greed. And i am not pretending i do not see your point. There are people who do it, but that's not the problem of polygamy, but the problem of the individual. What about David and Abraham who had more than one wife? Did they do it out of greed?

This is why i brought the idea of the different thinking there are, you denied.

Go through the bible and you will find out that majority of the cases of polygamy you find in the bible are for a completely different reason than greed. For people in different societies at different time, the thinking used in operating societies are very different!!!
Jacob also married his wives not out of greed!

The only time someone took a wife out of greed was when david took Uriah's wife. And to make a distinction between legal and proper pokygamy and greed, god sent Nathan to rebuke him! You know how much he suffered for that!
So if polygamy and adultery and greed are the same in the eyes of the christian god, why then did he not punish those who did proper polygamy, but punished those who did adultery and greed?

Just tell me you have a problem with polygamy and do not try to pass your scepticism for polygamy as god's opunion on it.

I don’t have to tell u anything...u are entitled to ur opinion just as I am

babz11:

Can you please explain exodus 21 vs 10 for me then

The Bible’s answer
For a time, God did permit a man to have more than one wife. (Genesis 4:19; 16:1-4; 29:18-29) But God did not originate the practice of polygamy. He provided only one wife for Adam.

God authorized Jesus Christ to reinstitute His original standard of monogamy. (John 8:28) When asked about marriage, Jesus said: “He who created them from the beginning made them male and female and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will stick to his wife, and the two will be one flesh.’”—Matthew 19:4, 5.

One of Jesus’ disciples was later inspired by God to write: “Let each man have his own wife and each woman have her own husband.” (1 Corinthians 7:2) The Bible also states that any married man in the Christian congregation who is given special responsibilities must be “a husband of one wife.”—1 Timothy 3:2, 12.

advanceDNA:



Exactly ...Reno is a man that always sits on the table if morality and religion.....to correct u I ddnt tackle Reno becos he was neutral, I tackled Reno because he’s claiming he doesn’t know if having many wives is wrong because the Bible didn’t mention it word for word....

..how could he say he doesn’t know if what tramples on the rights of a woman is wrong just because the Bible ddnt say specifically....

Heck...will he say he doesn’t know if p0rn, cocaine, etc is a wrong becos the Bible ddnt say.?

That’s why I brought my point from the angle of humanity....1st becos reno is human...and also a pastor..he could have answered from either angle...But he pretended to be in the fence...

Secondly u were saying I should give a bible verse or shut up...why should I have to give a bible verse to determine what’s wrong....every isn’t written in the Bible ....??

But if u feel I have not point..well everyone is entitled to their opinion

Bro, very nice response. Na true yarnings

nonen:
[/b]One man - One woman[b]

For a time, God did permit a man to have more than one wife. (Genesis 4:19; 16:1-4; 29:18-29) But God did not originate the practice of polygamy. He provided only one wife for Adam.

God authorized Jesus Christ to reinstitute His original standard of monogamy. (John 8:28) When asked about marriage, Jesus said: “He who created them from the beginning made them male and female and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and his mother and will stick to his wife, and the two will be one flesh.’”—Matthew 19:4, 5.

One of Jesus’ disciples was later inspired by God to write: “Let each man have his own wife and each woman have her own husband.” (1 Corinthians 7:2) The Bible also states that any married man in the Christian congregation who is given special responsibilities must be “a husband of one wife.”—1 Timothy 3:2, 12.

i want to marry 2 WIFE.

crackhaus:

King David was not filled with the spirit of God?

Good question

ike95:
i want to marry 2 WIFE.

Congratulations in advance. Happy Home!

MiddleDimension:

Please quote the passage for me let me look at it.

Titus 1:6

tiredoflife:


1 corth 7:1 down is clear
No where was wives mentioned but wife
So don't give ear to what's not in the teachings for the new creations

The irony is, the person that wrote that didn't marry


Shey it's now cool for a married man to take advise from an unmarried guy.