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How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by budaatum: 4:31pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
The unlikely story of how ‘Dundee United’ became an insult in Nigeria The club’s name is synonymous with idiocy in Africa’s most populous nation. How on earth did this happen? In 2010, the BBC aired a documentary called Welcome to Lagos that explored life in one of the fastest growing cities in the world. It was a three-part mini-series, surveying the changing hopes and aspirations of the city’s poorest residents, and taking viewers from houses constructed with scrap on the beach, to the people living in Olusosun rubbish dump. Shown on BBC2, the production company behind it went on to win a Bafta. But, most importantly, episode two of the series included a look at Makoko – a community built on stilts, on top of Lagos Lagoon – where a resident called Chubbey explained that survival in the city required a certain degree of street smarts. “Anybody who came to Lagos and he didn’t learn sense, he cannot get sense ever,” he said. “Because here if you are a fool, they will learn you how to get sense. If you are a ‘Dundee United’, when they start to pour shit on you, you will get sense.” After that the scene cut away and the documentary continued. But for any Scottish football fan watching, the producers had missed an important story: Dundee United is used to mean “idiot” in Nigeria. It is an upsetting thing to think about, for a United fan. This is a country of over 200 million people and they have apparently been using Dundee United as a byword for a fool for years. Why would they do this? It doesn’t make a lot of sense, but it’s true. As Yewande, a Nigerian-Scot based in Glasgow, explains: “When I was little, living in Nigeria, it was quite common. People would say ‘you’re just a Dundee United’, or ‘don’t be a Dundee United’, and it basically means an idiot or a loser.” But why? And how did it happen? Dundee United, unfortunately, did not respond to requests for comment on the question. The club’s silence represented an early blow to an investigation that already appeared as complicated as it was pointless. Yet a glance at the internet shows theories do exist. One, popular on online chatrooms, is that the phrase stems from the 1989 Fifa under-16 world championships. The tournament was actually a very successful one for the Scotland under-16s team, which made it to the final before losing to Saudi Arabia on penalties. Records show Nigeria were also present, with the team knocked out by the Saudis in the quarters. Significantly, that match was played at Dens Park. In fact the ground was home to four of Nigeria’s games, and the team also trained there. So could this be the answer? Is it possible that a contingent of mischievous Dundee fans could have played a part in the origins of the phrase? Could they have taken it upon themselves to inform a group of 15-year-old Nigerian youth players that “Dundee United” was local slang for an idiot? https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/mar/11/the-unlikely-story-of-how-dundee-united-became-an-insult-in-nigeria 3 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by Monogamy: 4:34pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
Still no origination of the words in this epistle 18 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by Nobody: 4:36pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
Idiot get plenty name Sha...Apart from Dundee the ones wey I know plenty like Bolor Zuzdeer Okpe Okpemu Mumu Mumudiasa As we craze reach we dey use name abuse person E.g that guy na suberu na See that guy ,na so he go dey do like bosun This guy can Musa ehn. For my area we dey even use foodstuff Oga no dey do like garri See as he do face like comb Guy you dey think like cocoyam For naija...we dey use anything insult...no think am 9 Likes |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by Mabizeka: 4:37pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
Is Buhari not a Dundee 2 Likes |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by tommy589(m): 4:48pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
It has been in use before 1989 7 Likes |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by Vickym1(f): 4:55pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
Buhari is a Dundee United 2 Likes |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by budaatum: 4:57pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
Monogamy: How much should I bet that you did not click on the link? |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by Rawgold29(m): 5:02pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
mumuni... suwegbe... aboki... sule... all na dundee . 9ja i hale 2 Likes |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by orisa37: 5:15pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
1,. WHEN OBAMA SENT KERRY TO THE CALIPHATE INSTEAD OF ABUJA, OBAMA MADE NIGERIANS DUNDEE UNITED. 2, WHEN BRITAIN COMPLETED MEDICAL SURGERY ON BUHARI IN2016, IT WAS LIKE EXHUMING HITLER TO MAKE HIM CONTINUE HIS SELFISH DESIRES. BRITISH MADE NIGERIANS DUNDEE UNITED. 3, BUHARI NOW DOING WHAT PLEASES HIM IN RIFA-RUGA ISLAMISATION FULANISATION AND ANARCHY RATHER THAN WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT IN FULL APREC-AUTONOMOUS POLICING RESOURCING AND ELECTIONEERING MATTERS FOR OUR 36 CONSTITUTIONAL STATES, BUHARI IS TAKING NIGERIA FOR GRANTED AS DUNDEE UNITED. THE CONTINUE DELAY TO EXPUNGE THE EXCLUSIVE LIST OF THE 1999 CONSTITUTION AND LIMITING FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AUTHORITIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES TO FOREIGN AFFAIRS MILITARY AND TREATIES SEALING ONLY IS UNDERMINING THE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS OF THE PEOPLE AND MAKING THEM DUNDEE UNITED. AND MANY MORE DUNDEE UNITEDS. 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by Monogamy: 5:15pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
budaatum: Are you not supposed to paste the full story here.. Why should I click the link? 1 Like |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by budaatum: 5:16pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
Dundee United should visit Naija again so we can see if they improved. And if they haven't improved, they can give visa to all the local Dundees so they can migrate to Scotland please.
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Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by budaatum: 5:22pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
Monogamy: Lol that I am supposed to steal the hard work of other people instead of making you visit their site so they can make money from your click. No one is supposing you to click a link. May your work be worthy of payment and not be stolen. 1 Like
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Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by Aderr: 5:38pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
This is ignorant. Dundee United has been synonymous with idiocy in Nigeria for a long time, far longer than 1989. 5 Likes |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by theTranslator: 5:56pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
“Dundee” I know... Which one be dundee united?? 1 Like |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by budaatum: 6:00pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
Aderr: Did you know that readers are not Dundees? Try it and see for yourself if it is untrue. |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by OBALOLA55(m): 6:26pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
budaatum:E BE LIKE SAY YOU NOR KNOW HELINUES. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by Aderr: 6:57pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
budaatum:I am not sure you read it. Or maybe you read upside down like a Dundee. 1 Like |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by ChoCho54(f): 7:49pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
Dundee United has been in existence as an abuse word even before the 80s. It's a bastardization of the word "dunderhead" Op is a Dundee that's why he didn't know this. 7 Likes |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by Monogamy: 8:15pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
ngadaAwo: Ironically, this thread is about Dundee United...
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Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by punisha: 9:24pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
lmaoooooo |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by aryzgreat: 9:33pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
What about Ode, Adamu, abokee, ewu awusa , mumu? |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by yorubarere: 9:39pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
ChoCho54:I go with this post 1 Like |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by LibertyRep: 9:46pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
ChoCho54:This seems the plausible explanation 2 Likes |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by budaatum: 9:53pm On Mar 12, 2021 |
ChoCho54: I wonder how many Nigerians would claim their Dundee United is bastardized dunderhead. I'm certain if we ask here though, the majority will claim they do know though many don't even know Dundee is a city. |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by Zenithpeak(m): 12:19am On Mar 13, 2021 |
The phrase was made popular by the pool stakers (sport betting) in the 70s and 80s... It was a common knowledge among them never to stake a draw on Dundee United if you don't want lose your bet... The team is notorious of losing important games even when they are in good form hence; people taunt them by calling anyone that is sluggish, inactive or took a backward position in his or her school report card a "dondu united" Also when we were young, our parents enjoys watching us play football in the evenings... If your set (team) is losing consistently, your team will be named "dondu united" for that day and your goalkeeper will be named "Onyemachara" or "gorimapa" .... It was always fun back then. Mrs Olayinka of blessed memory.... She's one of the people that made our childhood meaningful and memorable..... She gave every child in the house a nickname.... She used to call me "Baba may Fuji". , another one; Agede and many other funny nicknames. Sleep on Iya Muyiwa.. till we'll meet to part no more.... God knows the best for us all. 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How ‘Dundee United’ Became An Insult In Nigeria by Rugaria: 12:41am On Mar 13, 2021 |
I think the 1970s theory of the origin of the tag, when they visited Nigeria and lossed their matches badly is the true one, because I have been hearing of "Dundee United" since ions.. 3 Likes |
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