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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by theTranslator: 12:33pm On Apr 28
gidgiddy:


Your history is baseless because the opinion of Zik at the time that Nigeria should be one was shared many people including the common man on the street

As for Awolowo, he is demonised in the East for the role he played in the war
no history is baseless
history is history
and must be told
true history not history of hate and bitterness


what evil role
he did what was best for the east
he prevented a protected war
it's just bitterness that would make anyone hate him

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by Akudaisi: 12:37pm On Apr 28
theTranslator:

I didn't say Awolowo believed in restructuring
I said he believed in regional governance which still existed to an extent at that time

yes most the food wasn't from Nigeria agreed
but it doesn't change anything
you can't allow the enemy in a war to be strengthened
most of the bloodshedding were very avoidable especially that of the war
and now nnamdi is championing a course that will lead to more blood letting
blood is not what forms a nation
reasonable sacrifice and wisdom does
for saying that may the restless spirits of Biafrian women and children who died out of starvation visit you
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by theTranslator: 12:42pm On Apr 28
Akudaisi:
for saying that may the restless spirits of Biafrian women and children who died out of starvation visit you
why emotional?
what's wrong with what I said?
besides it was Ojukwu that starved them not me

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by AfonjaConehead: 12:42pm On Apr 28
AdakaBoro8:
afonjaconehead afonjaheadhunt gidgiddy ekealterego nigercity notasyouthink with their fellow zombies will not comment on this..

when a bad system is favour ibos they will do everything to force u into it... thesame thing ironsi did to niger deltans 1967... igbos blindly deeds are the reasons everyone is caged in this nigeria.. thank God they are the ones feeling consequency the most.. when karma say to igbo, who are we to say no?

Illiterates everywhere grin
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by Ojiofor: 12:44pm On Apr 28
AdakaBoro8:
yes. he would do it should defile his threat to stage a protest... ironsi and ojukwu did it to niger deltans..

Was Zik in control of the military when the debate was on going?
Does he have the power to stop the north if actually they meant business?
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by theTranslator: 12:49pm On Apr 28
ezenwajosh:
Even Nelson Mandela was tagged a terrorist and he came Igbo land to seek refuge while in nnewi he sends message across his people and still control their activity

KANU drinking Spanish wine and French bagels is a picture you saw him with his family after he escaped assassination in Nigeria and appeared in isreal then later went to UK to meet with his family

How he escaped Nigeria intelligence unit should have been a great concern to you....even today KANU might even be in Nigeria broadcasting
"seek refuge in igboland"
you're decieving yourself

Mandela didn't start his "freedom fighting" by insulting Yoruba like nnamdi
Mandela didn't give orders like a king
Mandela isn't called a supreme leader
Mandela didn't insult the British and still live in their land and even beg them for asylum

Mandela was equal to each south African man that wanted freedom

nnamdi is a fraud

and you know it

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by theTranslator: 12:51pm On Apr 28
Ojiofor:


Was Zik in control of the military when the debate was on going?
Does he have the power to stop the north if actually they meant business?
was Awolowo in control of the military?

if roles were reversed
and Azikwe was in the place of Awolowo

he would do the same
even worse

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by Akudaisi: 12:52pm On Apr 28
theTranslator:

why emotional?
what's wrong with what I said?
besides it was Ojukwu that starved them not me
shut ur stinking mouth up,only a deluded person would tell himself such a lie,since u always find way to justify atrocities committed against innocent Biafrian women and children,you own death will be worse than theirs

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by AfonjaConehead: 12:54pm On Apr 28
Golan007:


Shut up.

History is an essential in human knowledge base.

History is an essential what??!
Illiterate
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by Siwisheswereesh: 12:55pm On Apr 28
Pigiddiootts are currently responsible for the crises we are currently experiencing in the country.

In the process of trying to dominate the country, they end up at the bottom of the totem pole... grin

What a pity! grin

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by theTranslator: 12:58pm On Apr 28
Akudaisi:
shut ur stinking mouth up,only a deluded person would tell himself such a lie,since u always find way to justify atrocities committed against innocent Biafrian women and children,you own death will be worse than theirs
tell that to Ojukwu that subverted their food and gave his soldiers

good luck with your emotions

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by Ekealterego: 1:58pm On Apr 28
AdakaBoro8:
afonjaconehead afonjaheadhunt gidgiddy ekealterego nigercity notasyouthink with their fellow zombies will not comment on this..

when a bad system is favour ibos they will do everything to force u into it... thesame thing ironsi did to niger deltans 1967... igbos blindly deeds are the reasons everyone is caged in this nigeria.. thank God they are the ones feeling consequency the most.. when karma say to igbo, who are we to say no?
You are such an illiterate... This article itself is baseless... In 1953, Zik had no power or position whatsoever, the power was with the British people. Nigeria is still a British property with British administrators...

Secondly, what the illiterate wrote in the article, Zik did not support Biafra, in fact, he was on the side of Nigeria and was fighting on behalf of Nigeria. He was basically a traitor.

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by ImmaculateJOE(m): 2:01pm On Apr 28
gidgiddy:


What is the point of all this? That Zik had an opinion? Isnt Zik entitled to his opinion? If it is Ziks opinion that the North should not secede, it is still the North's choice. Zik did not own Nigeria or the North.

This thread is pointless

That's why I dreaded the first page..
He created the thread to instigate resentment towards Ndigbo. Nothing more
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by ezenwajosh(m): 2:08pm On Apr 28
theTranslator:

"seek refuge in igboland"
you're decieving yourself

Mandela didn't start his "freedom fighting" by insulting Yoruba like nnamdi
Mandela didn't give orders like a king
Mandela isn't called a supreme leader
Mandela didn't insult the British and still live in their land and even beg them for asylum

Mandela was equal to each south African man that wanted freedom

nnamdi is a fraud

and you know it
If you didn't know Mandela seeked refuge in the house of MBAZULIKE AMAECHI IN NNEWI then I think you should get updated before we continue

No he didn't insult Yoruba....Yoruba wasn't part of his problem....he insulted white men and blacks working for the white men to hold their own people down
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by jumobi1(m): 2:10pm On Apr 28
Okay??
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by theTranslator: 2:13pm On Apr 28
ezenwajosh:
If you didn't know Mandela seeked refuge in the house of MBAZULIKE AMAECHI IN NNEWI then I think you should get updated before we continue

No he didn't insult Yoruba....Yoruba wasn't part of his problem....he insulted white men and blacks working for the white men to hold their own people down
do you know what refuge is at all?


lie
the basis of IPOB was formed on insulting Yoruba and pastors
that's what gave him his followers
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by theTranslator: 2:16pm On Apr 28
Ekealterego:

You are such an illiterate... This article itself is baseless... In 1953, Zik had no power or position whatsoever, the power was with the British people. Nigeria is still a British property with British administrators...

Secondly, what the illiterate wrote in the article, Zik did not support Biafra, in fact, he was on the side of Nigeria and was fighting on behalf of Nigeria. He was basically a traitor.
blackpast a reputable pan African website wrote that not me
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by ezenwajosh(m): 2:21pm On Apr 28
theTranslator:

do you know what refuge is at all?


lie
the basis of IPOB was formed on insulting Yoruba and pastors
that's what gave him his followers
then get your own basis and get followers too

If you had listen to him....you wouldn't have voted BUHARI twice....isn't it?

Mbaka said he's a God sent a Messiah

Another one said he will stebilize Nigeria

NNAMDI KANU SAID HE'S COMING TO ENSLAVE AND PUSH FULANIZATION OF NIGERIA....SAID HIS PEOPLE WILL KILL,RAPE AND SACK VILLAGES AND THEY WILL BE PROTECTED BY BUHARI WITH THE ARMY, POLICE AND DSS

NOW WHO IS RIGHT....IS IT YOUR PASTORS OR NNAMDI KANU ?
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by theTranslator: 2:24pm On Apr 28
ezenwajosh:
then get your own basis and get followers too

If you had listen to him....you wouldn't have voted BUHARI twice....isn't it?

Mbaka said he's a God sent a Messiah

Another one said he will stebilize Nigeria

NNAMDI KANU SAID HE'S COMING TO ENSLAVE AND PUSH FULANIZATION OF NIGERIA....SAID HIS PEOPLE WILL KILL,RAPE AND SACK VILLAGES AND THEY WILL BE PROTECTED BY BUHARI WITH THE ARMY, POLICE AND DSS

NOW WHO IS RIGHT....IS IT YOUR PASTORS OR NNAMDI KANU ?
I'm talking of Yoruba pastors

who voted him twice?

and is Atiku igbo?

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by Akudaisi: 3:32pm On Apr 28
theTranslator:

tell that to Ojukwu that subverted their food and gave his soldiers

good luck with your emotions
haa omo ur own worse,ure the worse Yoruba that ever mentioned me,you think Biafrians soldiers will see their wives,kids,mother's and sisters dieing and leave them to starve,no Biafrian soldier will do that including Ojukwu, everyone faced the hunger besides there weren't soldiers fighting for money they were fighting for their freedom
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by theTranslator: 3:35pm On Apr 28
Akudaisi:
haa omo ur own worse,ure the worse Yoruba that ever mentioned me,you think Biafrians soldiers will see their wives,kids,mother's and sisters dieing and leave them to starve,no Biafrian soldier will do that including Ojukwu, everyone faced the hunger besides there weren't soldiers fighting for money they were fighting for their freedom
facts say something else sir
www.nairaland.com/attachments/9421933_fbimg1555061347886_jpega3edb3529f5181dde3cd870f8a44d6e1
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by OkoNDOoBo: 3:43pm On Apr 28
Akudaisi:
haa omo ur own worse,ure the worse Yoruba that ever mentioned me,you think Biafrians soldiers will see their wives,kids,mother's and sisters dieing and leave them to starve,no Biafrian soldier will do that including Ojukwu, everyone faced the hunger besides there weren't soldiers fighting for money they were fighting for their freedom
how come children of igbo elites , war commanders were feeding fat while the rest were starvingcheesy
Be decieving yourself. Ojukwu thought he could use propaganda to win the war. Unfortunately he ran away in his wife atires after sacrificing millions of igbos to the Egoistic war.

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by Idiko1: 3:46pm On Apr 28
theTranslator:

tell that to Ojukwu that subverted their food and gave his soldiers

good luck with your emotions

You are the reason history is given a bad name. You tend to regurgitate silly fallacies with no iota of logic. Biafra flatly rejected foods which had to be transported though the corridor of Nigeria for fear of being poisoned. How could Ojukwu subvert the shipment of seemingly poisoned foods and give to his soldiers? Even if Ojukwu was an idle civilian such as the poster of the above crap, he would have been able to conclude that soldiers with running stomach due to food poison cannot fight a war. Most Nigerian cannot think to commit simple suicide.
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by Akudaisi: 3:49pm On Apr 28
OkoNDOoBo:
how come children of igbo elites , war commanders were feeding fat while the rest were starvingcheesy
Be decieving yourself. Ojukwu thought he could use propaganda to win the war. Unfortunately he ran away in his wife atires after sacrificing millions of igbos to the Egoistic war.
and who told you they were living fat,the hunger affected every part of all those living during the war but ofcourse there will always be an exception
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by Idiko1: 3:50pm On Apr 28
theTranslator:

facts say something else sir
www.nairaland.com/attachments/9421933_fbimg1555061347886_jpega3edb3529f5181dde3cd870f8a44d6e1

You kick against everything you believed. The thread you initiated is ethnically and sentimentally laden yet you have the effrontery to quote Okadigbo.
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by Ekealterego: 4:05pm On Apr 28
theTranslator:

blackpast a reputable pan African website wrote that not me
There is nothing overtly reputable about that website, It is similar to Wikipedia.. You can post facts and mix them with opinions. In the speech you posted Zik clearly stating an opinion and was nothing even forceful.. he did not remove secession into law and had no rights... Zik was born and raised in Zungeru, Niger state and even in his book, he stated that he is from Benin. He was more of a pan-Africanist and was never for once in stood solely for the interest of the Igbos... Igbos do not even respect him as of today...

Secondly, Zik was not representing the Eastern region. Ojukwu led the Biafran government and not the Igbos.. Pre-independence, Zik was not representing the interest or opinion of the Igbos nor Igbo people.. Whatever he did before independence (where he had no power) was solely for himself and not for the people of the East... He was more of a Nortzerner than an Igbo man. Have you ever seen Zik in Igbo attire?
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by theTranslator: 4:43pm On Apr 28
Idiko1:


You kick against everything you believed. The thread you initiated is ethnically and sentimentally laden yet you have the effrontery to quote Okadigbo.
I simply posted a speech

your brothers made it ethnic
see here 2011
https://www.nairaland.com/583562/nnamdi-azikiwes-speech-threat-north
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by theTranslator: 4:47pm On Apr 28
Ekealterego:

There is nothing overtly reputable about that website, It is similar to Wikipedia.. You can post facts and mix them with opinions. In the speech you posted Zik clearly stating an opinion and was nothing even forceful.. he did not remove secession into law and had no rights... Zik was born and raised in Zungeru, Niger state and even in his book, he stated that he is from Benin. He was more of a pan-Africanist and was never for once in stood solely for the interest of the Igbos... Igbos do not even respect him as of today...

Secondly, Zik was not representing the Eastern region. Ojukwu led the Biafran government and not the Igbos.. Pre-independence, Zik was not representing the interest or opinion of the Igbos nor Igbo people.. Whatever he did before independence (where he had no power) was solely for himself and not for the people of the East... He was more of a Nortzerner than an Igbo man. Have you ever seen Zik in Igbo attire?
lie
blackpast is not like Wikipedia at all

I'm not a child lol
it's similar to face2faceafrica.com

the underlined is the falsest thing ever Said
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by Ekealterego: 5:16pm On Apr 28
theTranslator:

lie
blackpast is not like Wikipedia at all

I'm not a child lol
it's similar to face2faceafrica.com

the underlined is the falsest thing ever Said
The website is an African American website that archives speeches.

You are trying to be clever by half... Whoever posted it inserted a comment at the top of the quote, stating something that has nothing to do with the quote.

You claimed that Nnamdi Azikiwe led a breakaway country and stopped the North from taking session.

Why are you people deceitful and chronic liars?

Ojukwu led Biafra and Zik had nothing to do with it neither did he fight on the side of Biafra.

Zik didn't have any powers do decide who should or should not secede. He had no political post. The power was with the British administrators, so how did Zik put that into law.... The speech you posted was more of an opinion and analysis.

You people are obviously not very bright.
Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by orisa37: 5:17pm On Apr 28
THE IGBOS ARE NOT CONSISTENT.

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by AdakaBoro8(m): 5:22pm On Apr 28
Ekealterego:

You are such an illiterate... This article itself is baseless... In 1953, Zik had no power or position whatsoever, the power was with the British people. Nigeria is still a British property with British administrators...

Secondly, what the illiterate wrote in the article, Zik did not support Biafra, in fact, he was on the side of Nigeria and was fighting on behalf of Nigeria. He was basically a traitor.
igbos, confessed and be saved.. this your dodging truth system will do you no better but more woes.

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Re: Azikwe Against Northern Secession 1953 by Ekealterego: 5:24pm On Apr 28
AdakaBoro8:
igbos, confessed and be saved.. this your dodging truth system will do you no better but more woes.
Guy go back to school... @Afonjaheadhunts, how do you read this guy's posts?

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