Jamalson:
My brother whether you like it or not i will not fail to tell you the truth. Jesus Christ loves you.

Very funny. So does Allah, Buddha et al.

Curtail your enthusiasm. We are our own Gods.

ifiokjohn:
Well I think we should all do what works for us. You do what works for you and let Dem do theirs.

So, we ought to ignore the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, the Truth of God, to preach instead that men follow after the doctrines and traditions of other men?

Kobojunkie:
So, we ought to ignore the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, the Truth of God, to preach instead that men follow after the doctrines and traditions of other men?

Where in the Bible do they say Praise and Worship is bad?.... Praise n worship is not a doctrine of men.
We even see in the book of Revelation that Angels sing praises to God with the 24 elders.

ifiokjohn:
Where in the Bible do they say Praise and Worship is bad?.... Praise n worship is not a doctrine of men.
We even see in the book of Revelation that Angels sing praises to God with the 24 elders.

It doesn't have to say your praise and worship sessions are bad..... it simply needs to be declared as a part of God's Law for it to be of God and since it is not declared as a commandment given by God, those who teach doctrines and traditions that suggest it to be part of what God commands are liars and deceivers.
No man has authority to add to or remove from God's Law!

We read of so many other things in the same Bible but that does not then mean God then endorses our doing of it all. If God wanted you to sing praises to Him like it is claimed the Angels already do in John's dream/vision in Revelations, God would have easily commanded it of you but since He did not means you may do it of your own but when it comes to honoring Him, it does nothing for Him or for you.

Kobojunkie:
It doesn't have to say your praise and worship sessions are bad..... it simply needs to be declared as a part of God's Law for it to be of God and since it is not declared as a commandment given by God, those who teach doctrines and traditions that suggest it to be part of what God commands are liars and deceivers.
No man has authority to add to or remove from God's Law!

We read of so many other things in the same Bible but that does not then mean God then endorses our doing of it all. If God wanted you to sing praises to Him like it is claimed the Angels already do in John's dream/vision in Revelations, God would have easily commanded it of you but since He did not means you may do it of your own but when it comes to honoring Him, it does nothing for Him or for you.

Remember when it was said if men don't praise God, God will raise up stones to praise him? It that not an indirect way of showing God loves praises?

You know what is right, do it. Don't wait till God tell you it right to sing praises to him before you do.

It not Everytime you be praying and asking God for something, sometimes Praise and thank him for the ones he has given you and more will be added on to you

ifiokjohn:
Remember when it was said if men don't praise God, God will raise up stones to praise him? It that not an indirect way of showing God loves praises?

You know what is right, do it. Don't wait till God tell you it right to sing praises to him before you do.

It not Everytime you be praying and asking God for something, sometimes Praise and thank him for the ones he has given you and more will be added on to you

1. Jesus Christ's commands are not indirectly stated or it would not qualify as a command... we are speaking here of the Law of God, are we not?

2. A close look at the passage, Luke 19 vs 37 - 40, reveals that Jesus Christ is telling us that God does not require the praises of men, which more closely fits Jesus Christ's statement in John 5 vs 41 - 47

3. God makes it clear that the only way to honor Him is, not by doing that which you like, but through the doing of that which He commands. He even decided to install His own Spirit inside of those who honor Him in that way so that they can more carefully obey the same commands - Ezekiel 36 vs 27 - this to show how very important it is to God that you obey His comandments/rules and not yours or that of any man.

Why cling to the doctrines and traditions of men instead of the Truth of God?

[quote author=Kobojunkie post=102349252]1. Jesus Christ's commands are not indirectly stated or it would not qualify as a command... we are speaking here of the Law of God, are we not?

2. A close look at the passage, Luke 19 vs 37 - 40, reveals that Jesus Christ is telling us that God does not require the praises of men, which more closely fits Jesus Christ's statement in John 5 vs 41 - 47[/b]I think it goes both ways.God or Jesus did not say it is bad to praise him too.


3. God makes it clear that the only way to honor Him is, not by doing that which you like, but through the doing of that which He commands. He even decided to install His own Spirit inside of those who honor Him in that way so that they can more carefully obey the same commands - [b]Ezekiel 36 vs 27 - this to show how very important it is to God that you obey His comandments/rules and not yours or that of any man.

Why cling to the doctrines and traditions of men instead of the Truth of God? [/quot I think it goes both ways. God or Jesus didn't say it bad to praise him just because he didn't explicitly tell us. we have seen many instances in the Bible where God falls inlove with people that praise him.
We know the case of David in the Bible, A Singer.
We know many cases in the Bible.
Sometimes a good thing doesn't have to be stated before you know and do what is good.
Praising God doesn't take anything away from you or your prayers infact it adds more to it.
See Jesus said a parable about Giving Thanks...using those leper men who.only one came back to thank him.

That's wats praises is all about. Thanksgiving, there is more thanks giving can do for you than an ordinary prayers bro.
Thanks giving go hand in hand with praises.
For eg, if you always come to Mr A to ask for something ( prayers) and when it given you never say thank you or praise him

Do you think when you return another time he will like to give you? He will see you as ungrateful.

See bro, use a few weeks to thank and Praise God...you will see the difference in your life .
Satan knew what praising God mean...that it why he was in charge of praise and worship back when he was still in the light.
The others angels in the Bible that sing hallelujah hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah to God knows what it means and God appreciates that.

[quote author=Kobojunkie post=102349252]1. Jesus Christ's commands are not indirectly stated or it would not qualify as a command... we are speaking here of the Law of God, are we not?

2. A close look at the passage, Luke 19 vs 37 - 40, reveals that Jesus Christ is telling us that God does not require the praises of men, which more closely fits Jesus Christ's statement in John 5 vs 41 - 47[/b]I think it goes both ways.God or Jesus did not say it is bad to praise him too.


3. God makes it clear that the only way to honor Him is, not by doing that which you like, but through the doing of that which He commands. He even decided to install His own Spirit inside of those who honor Him in that way so that they can more carefully obey the same commands - [b]Ezekiel 36 vs 27 - this to show how very important it is to God that you obey His comandments/rules and not yours or that of any man.

Why cling to the doctrines and traditions of men instead of the Truth of God? [/quot I think it goes both ways. God or Jesus didn't say it bad to praise him just because he didn't explicitly tell us. we have seen many instances in the Bible where God falls inlove with people that praise him.
We know the case of David in the Bible, A Singer.
We know many cases in the Bible.
Sometimes a good thing doesn't have to be stated before you know and do what is good.
Praising God doesn't take anything away from you or your prayers infact it adds more to it.
See Jesus said a parable about Giving Thanks...using those leper men who.only one came back to thank him.

That's wats praises is all about. Thanksgiving, there is more thanks giving can do for you than an ordinary prayers bro.
Thanks giving go hand in hand with praises.
For eg, if you always come to Mr A to ask for something ( prayers) and when it given you never say thank you or praise him

Do you think when you return another time he will like to give you? He will see you as ungrateful.

See bro, use a few weeks to thank and Praise God...you will see the difference in your life .
Satan knew what praising God mean...that it why he was in charge of praise and worship back when he was still in the light.
The others angels in the Bible that sing hallelujah hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah to God knows what it means and God appreciates that.
Just Praise him. It brings no harm

ogwumgbe:

Read your Bible bro and understand. Bible is not a novel. Hidden secrets are scattered all over the pages of the Bible, and it's your duty as a child of God to search them out and apply them to your life. The guy has just told you a great secret that will benefit your life and you are here talking about doctrine.

So the hidden secrets inthe Bible tells you that there are 8 things you need to do to become a "true child of God"?

ifiokjohn:

I think it goes both ways. God or Jesus didn't say it bad to praise him just because he didn't explicitly tell us. we have seen many instances in the Bible where God falls inlove with people that praise him.
We know the case of David in the Bible, A Singer.
We know many cases in the Bible.
Sometimes a good thing doesn't have to be stated before you know and do what is good.
Praising God doesn't take anything away from you or your prayers infact it adds more to it.
See Jesus said a parable about Giving Thanks...using those leper men who.only one came back to thank him.

That's wats praises is all about. Thanksgiving, there is more thanks giving can do for you than an ordinary prayers bro.
Thanks giving go hand in hand with praises.
For eg, if you always come to Mr A to ask for something ( prayers) and when it given you never say thank you or praise him

Do you think when you return another time he will like to give you? He will see you as ungrateful.

See bro, use a few weeks to thank and Praise God...you will see the difference in your life .
Satan knew what praising God mean...that it why he was in charge of praise and worship back when he was still in the light.
The others angels in the Bible that sing hallelujah hallelujah Hallelujah Hallelujah to God knows what it means and God appreciates that.

A command is a decree, not an arbitrary statement, that when included in a Covenant, is binding. In this case, since it's not declared a command, it is neither a sin to not do it nor is it a sin to do it. However, it is against the Law to add to or remove from God's Law, something that those who stipulate that your church-type praise and worship sessions as essential,when trying to receive from God , do. That act is against God.

Kobojunkie:
A command is a decree, not an arbitrary statement, that when included in a Covenant, is binding. In this case, since it's not declared a command, it is neither a sin to not do it nor is it a sin to do it. However, it is against the Law to add to or remove from God's Law, something that those who stipulate that your church-type praise and worship sessions as essential,when trying to receive from God , do. That act is against God.

I don't see how Praising God is against him

Jesus Christ say he is the Law.
Man was not made for the law, the law was made for me. And in the law there is no saying one shouldn't praise God.

You call it 'Church-type" praises and yet I see no difference between it and the praises in heaven ( except those singing it-Holiness) inother words David added to the law by Singing praise to God...How come God don't cause him but yet curse the one that felt disgusted with his praises?

ifiokjohn:
I don't see how Praising God is against him

Jesus Christ say he is the Law.
Man was not made for the law, the law was made for me. And in the law there is no saying one shouldn't praise God.

You call it 'Church-type" praises and yet I see no difference between it and the praises in heaven ( except those singing it-Holiness) inother words David added to the law by Singing praise to God...How come God don't cause him but yet curse the one that felt disgusted with his praises?

Read it again...

Kobojunkie:
A command is a decree, not an arbitrary statement, that when included in a Covenant, is binding. In this case, since it's not declared a command, it is neither a sin to not do it nor is it a sin to do it. However, it is against the Law to add to or remove from God's Law, something that those who stipulate that your church-type praise and worship sessions as essential,when trying to receive from God , do. That act is against God.

Man was not made for the Law..instead the Law was made for man to obey. And the Law has declared it evil to add to or remove commandments from the Law as it was given you.

Kobojunkie:
Read it again... Man was not made for the Law..instead the Law was made for man to obey. And the Law has declared it evil to add to or remove commandments from the Law as it was given you.

That wats I'm saying. There is no commandment that we shouldn't praise God. Meaning nothing was removed or added from from the law.

ifiokjohn:
That wats I'm saying. There is no commandment that we shouldn't praise God. Meaning nothing was removed or added from from the law.

You are still missing the point of God's Law, Jesus Christ, and the rule He gave us instructing us against the adding to and removing of laws from His teachings and laws to us.

Basically, You are not allowed by the Law, Jesus Christ, to prescribe the praising of God as solution for anything, nor to anyone as what God wants, given that God Himself did not command it of us all.

All of this is to say that those who go around claiming that God specially blessed them because they praised or danced to Him are nothing but liars used by the devil to deceive many others away from obeying God's very own commandments, focusing instead of the lies.

Another example area to consider is prayer. Jesus Christ commands that when we pray, we should

* Pray in silence
* Pray in secret - never in front of others - so that no one even see or knows we are praying
* Avoid vain repetitions , and so on

Now, compare that with what is done in your churches and homes in the name of Jesus Christ? The very opposite of what Jesus Christ commands is what takes place in your churches and homes and not a single one of those who do it even realizes that it is antichrist spirit- against Jesus Christ- that is in them causing them to go against God's own Law in such a way.

Kobojunkie:
You are still missing the point of God's Law, Jesus Christ, and the rule He gave us instructing us against the adding to and removing of laws from His teachings and laws to us.

Basically, You are not allowed by the Law, Jesus Christ, to prescribe the praising of God as solution for anything, nor to anyone as what God wants, given that God Himself did not command it of us all.

All of this is to say that those who go around claiming that God specially blessed them because they praised or danced to Him are nothing but liars used by the devil to deceive many others away from obeying God's very own commandments, focusing instead of the lies.

Another example area to consider is prayer. Jesus Christ commands that when we pray, we should

* Pray in silence
* Pray in secret - never in front of others - so that no one even see or knows we are praying
* Avoid vain repetitions , and so on

Now, compare that with what is done in your churches and homes in the name of Jesus Christ? The very opposite of what Jesus Christ commands is what takes place in your churches and homes and not a single one of those who do it even realizes that it is antichrist spirit- against Jesus Christ- that is in them causing them to go against God's own Law in such a way.

I understand what youre sayihg..but you should know in churches the reason they pray so loud is that you have alot of people in church...so how can they hear if you don't use mic?
The Bible say when one or two are gathered God is there...so when 2-500 are gathered God is there and when a pastor wants to pray... He has to pray a little loud so the 500 can hear.


Now I understand what you mean about your praising God but you simply have the wrong notion.
See just like they're somethings normal request can't get til when you learn to thank for the ones that you have been given... that's how it is in praising.
Even Bible talk about God lifting stones to praise him if Humans don't praise him.
I'm a testimony to praises
I know what praises and Thanksgiving does.

Sometimes when I pray for something..I might not get it, but when I praise instead and thank God for the previous. There is a high possibility I'll get this one
God doesn't just want us to come to him Everytime we need something (Prayers)
He wants us to come to Him and thank him for the previous things he has done for us ( praises and thank Giving)

ifiokjohn:
I understand what youre sayihg..but you should know in churches the reason they pray so loud is that you have alot of people in church...so how can they hear if you don't use mic?
The Bible say when one or two are gathered God is there...so when 2-500 are gathered God is there and when a pastor wants to pray... He has to pray a little loud so the 500 can hear.

Now I understand what you mean about your praising God but you simply have the wrong notion.
See just like they're somethings normal request can't get til when you learn to thank for the ones that you have been given... that's how it is in praising.
Even Bible talk about God lifting stones to praise him if Humans don't praise him.
I'm a testimony to praises
I know what praises and Thanksgiving does.

Sometimes when I pray for something..I might not get it, but when I praise instead and thank God for the previous. There is a high possibility I'll get this one
God doesn't just want us to come to him Everytime we need something (Prayers)
He wants us to come to Him and thank him for the previous things he has done for us ( praises and thank Giving)

There is absolutely no reason for the noise that is your churches when Jesus Christ was clear that we are each to Pray in SILENCE and we are to do so in HIDING from others.

If even 1 million people were to all pray in SILENCE, will you still here a sound?
If 1 million people prayed in secret, would you even know anyone was praying?
If even 1 million people(each of them) were to worship God, not like the pharisees do in public were other eyes can see but as God commands, would you even be able to spot who is doing what?

Cut the bull and stop trying to make up silly excuses for the inexcusable that is your churches. What goes on in those buildings are ANTICHRIST activities that have nothing to do with God as it all stands against the very commandments of God Himself.

Kobojunkie:
There is absolutely no reason for the noise that is your churches when Jesus Christ was clear that we are each to Pray in SILENCE and we are to do so in HIDING from others.

If even 1 million people were to all pray in SILENCE, will you still here a sound?
If 1 million people prayed in secret, would you even know anyone was praying?
If even 1 million people(each of them) were to worship God, not like the pharisees do in public were other eyes can see but as God commands, would you even be able to spot who is doing what?

Cut the bull and stop trying to make up silly excuses for the inexcusable that is your churches. What goes on in those buildings are ANTICHRIST activities that have nothing to do with God as it all stands against the very commandments of God Himself.

prayers is different from praise and worship. In prayers you can pray silently. In praise and worship even in heaven the angels sing with a loud voice. There is a difference bro. Big difference.
Stop confusing prayers with Praises.
God never said we should praise God in silence.
When you praise you let people know what God has done for you. That praises.
Bro there is no Antichrist but anyone who wants to deny God is Praises and adoration.
Even in the heavens the angels sings in loud voices talkless Humans.

By the way, I agree with you shall. Prayers should be done silently. But most times people get so deep and they can't help it and there go loud especially when praying for hours ( have you done it before?)
Try praying silently for 3 hours straight if you can....it hardly possible.
But Jesus Christ commandment prayer is possible... "Our Father who art in heaven, Hallow be thy Name, the kingdom come and thy will be done on Earth as it is in heaven, give us each day our daily bread and forgive us our Trespasses as we forgive those who Trespass against us and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil..Amen".

This prayers can be say silently. Try saying along prayer especially when rebuking evil. Let me see if you can say it silently

Kobojunkie:
There is absolutely no reason for the noise that is your churches when Jesus Christ was clear that we are each to Pray in SILENCE and we are to do so in HIDING from others.

If even 1 million people were to all pray in SILENCE, will you still here a sound?
If 1 million people prayed in secret, would you even know anyone was praying?
If even 1 million people(each of them) were to worship God, not like the pharisees do in public were other eyes can see but as God commands, would you even be able to spot who is doing what?

Cut the bull and stop trying to make up silly excuses for the inexcusable that is your churches. What goes on in those buildings are ANTICHRIST activities that have nothing to do with God as it all stands against the very commandments of God Himself.

Prayers is different from praise and worship. In prayers you can pray silently. In praise and worship even in heaven the angels sing with a loud voice. There is a difference bro. Big difference.
Stop confusing prayers with Praises.
God never said we should praise God in silence.
When you praise you let people know what God has done for you. That praises.
Bro there is no Antichrist but anyone who wants to deny God is Praises and adoration.
Even in the heavens the angels sings in loud voices talkless Humans.

By the way, I agree with you shall. Prayers should be done silently. But most times people get so deep and they can't help it and there go loud especially when praying for hours ( have you done it before?)
Try praying silently for 3 hours straight if you can....it hardly possible.
But Jesus Christ commandment prayer is possible... "Our Father who art in heaven, Hallow be thy Name, thy kingdom come and thy will be done on Earth as it is in heaven, give us each day our daily bread and forgive us our Trespasses as we forgive those who Trespass against us and lead us not into temptation but deliver us from evil..Amen".

This prayers can be say silently. Try saying along prayer especially when rebuking evil. Let me see if you can say it silently

NotGej:


Rest your case, you’ve got no point.

There’s no God. It exists in our/ your minds.

SMH

Says what?

dairykidd:

Being a new creature in Christ Jesus doesn't mean u are exempted from satanic attacks. As a matter of fact he attacks u more just to put fear and doubt in u towards ur beliefs and God. If u do not exercise ur faith then u are as good as a sports man who doesn't train anymore because he has already attained a certain status.

The bible says in Matthew 13:25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way. This isn't physical sleeping. Its a spiritual one. Slacking and refusing to exercise ur faith. The enemy will look for means to spoil ur goodness when u lack the simple knowledge of always watching and praying. Jesus Christ himself was attacked by the enemy while he was even fasting and praying in the wilderness but he countered it all with his faith in the word... talk more u? He didn't just rest and say yeah I'm Jesus Christ therefore the devil cannot near me. Faith comes by hearing and hearing God's word and without works it's as good as dead

Am not denying his attack OUTSIDE, my question to you is CAN DEMONS POSSESS YOU ..INHABIT YOU?

jimmynauty:


Am not denying his attack OUTSIDE, my question to you is CAN DEMONS POSSESS YOU ..INHABIT YOU?

Nope

dairykidd:

Nope

That was why I raised the observation

jimmynauty:


That was why I raised the observation

Yes you are right with your observations.